Saturday, 2014-07-12

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xthHi, to everyone russian-speaking in this channel a quick fix of cyrillic font problems: https://www.feuerplatz.ru/sailfish/cyrfonts/08:13
xthNobody seemed to bother before, and the answers in together.j.c were unanswered.08:14
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tbrAard: ^^^08:20
zoldyckxth: what was wrong with the default?08:28
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xthThey were rendered with different font (Roboto Light) and looked quite different  https://together.jolla.com/upfiles/13925692527540874.jpg08:34
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coderusxth: your https sucks09:04
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xthcoderus: you mean the certificates? or what?09:09
Hartzicoderus: what's wrong with https?09:13
coderusxth: yeah, certificate09:13
Hartziah that one09:14
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xthwell I use cacert authority for a long time without problems so it's okay with me.09:16
xthanyway were the results okay?09:17
coderusyou probably configured it wrong09:19
coderusboth crome and curl alerting bad certificate :)09:20
tbrdepends solely if you have ever added the CAcert root-certs in your browser09:20
tbrfor me there isn't even a warning, as I did09:21
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tbrhttp://www.cacert.org/index.php?id=3 if you want to add the CA to your browser09:21
coderusxth: thanks for the font trick btw :)09:22
coderustbr: sailfish-browser going madd when i'm opening certificate url :D09:24
tbrfor the sailfish browser you'd probably need to use the mozilla cert tool. It's been mentioned on TJC09:24
xthpity sailfish doesn't use p11-kit like new fedoras09:26
xth(yet nothing like the horrors of installing root CAs to N9)09:28
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Aardxth: the ca bits is work in progress, target is to have one common ca-store for all libraries, and provide a ui for that11:03
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BooyahIs there a working build for any phone yet?15:10
Booyahcouldn't find the info on the website15:10
tbryes there are15:10
Booyahlink plox15:11
tbrNexus 4, Nexus 5, Nokia N9/N95015:11
Booyahbecause I've been running CyanogenMod on my Nexus 5 but I'm tired of sucking Google's15:13
BooyahWe'll say teat15:13
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tbrthings happen in #sailfishos-porters for that15:16
tbrnote that this is under heavy development15:17
BooyahThank you tbr, you have been quite helpful.15:19
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CameramanHello. Is Sailfish being planed as a OS also for netbooks?17:23
tbrnot that I know of17:23
tbralso the netbook formfactor died 2-3 years ago from what I can tell. Current hype is ultrabooks with full blown os.17:24
wmaroneor x86 tablets with small bluetooth keyboards17:25
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CameramanIn which language app for SailfishOS are being written?17:30
tbrQML, Qt, python, ...17:31
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CameramanQML and Qt is rather for frontend, but what about backend? C++?17:33
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jpnurmiQt is C++17:38
Cameramanjpnurmi: That what I was asking about. Thank You17:42
Morpog_PCand javascript17:46
ln-Qt is close to C++17:53
Nicd-technically Qt is C++, but for a programmer Qt is sometimes quite far from C++ :P17:55
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CameramanWhy SOS SDK requires VirtualBox?18:04
Shaan7Nicd-: well technically Qt is a C++ framework ;) #technically18:05
giucamCameraman: the phone emulator is a virtualbox vm18:06
Cameramangiucam: Thank You18:06
CameramanDo You think that there will be coop between SOS and Tizen?18:08
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Nicd-also the compile engine is in a VM18:08
Nicd-I don't think there'll be much co-operation with Tizen, I think they're pretty closed18:08
CameramanI heard that there is an agreenment between Tizen and FirefoxOS about splitting the market (Tizen gets high and mid, FirefoxOX - low).18:08
CameramanIt's great that two mobiles Linuxes will attack the market.18:09
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ryukafalzhttps://together.jolla.com/question/40211/wifi-mobile-data-and-call-audiosound-not-working-on-nexus-4-with-ea2/20:40
ryukafalztech support hell20:40
ryukafalz"I fixed it!"20:40
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* ryukafalz pokes around some more20:44
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ryukafalzMy only deviation from the guide was in not reverting to 4.2.2 before flashing CyanogenMod... if that matters, I'd be curious to know why, as you're then going and flashing CM over it. Drivers, maybe?20:54
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* ryukafalz will find out shortly if that was the problem, I suppose21:02
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stephgryukafalz: why ea2 when ea3 is out?21:16
ryukafalzstephg: It is EA3 that I'm installing21:17
stephggood good :)21:17
ryukafalzalso that was indeed the problem21:18
ryukafalznewer drivers that didn't work I suppose?21:18
stephgyup21:19
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ryukafalzjolla account could not be created... hmm21:20
stephghm that's odd21:21
stephg3g or wifi?21:21
ryukafalzwifi21:21
stephgtime on the phone is right?21:21
* ryukafalz nods21:21
stephgmust admit I didn't try to create one as I have a jolla so just used those credentials...21:21
ryukafalzThere a way for me to log into a jolla account online/recover the password? I might have created one and forgotten about it maybe.21:22
ryukafalzit's separate from tjc, right?21:22
stephgno I think is the same as tjc21:22
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ryukafalzoh, alright21:22
* ryukafalz checks21:23
stephgthe shop is different but harbour/tjc I are think the same21:23
stephgi.e. SSO from the former is used on the latter21:23
ryukafalzyup, that was it21:23
stephgsledges: I have that 3g problem again, but isn't related to uptime (it had run flat and now is charging)21:24
stephg(me begins to wonder if it's a SIM reader thing)21:24
stephgfwiw: Jul 05 03:51:24 Jolla ofonod[913]: GET_SIM_STATUS reques failed: 1; retries: 1521:27
stephgJul 05 03:51:24 Jolla ofonod[913]: Max retries for GET_SIM_STATUS exceeded!21:27
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ryukafalzhmm, can't seem to connect to my XMPP account21:28
stephgryukafalz: that all works for me just fine21:28
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ryukafalzin my XMPP server logs, I see it connecting, then immediately disconnecting21:30
ryukafalzodd21:30
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ryukafalzhmm, I think I have a deeper problem here though x.x21:31
stephgand the auth is *definitely* correct? ;)21:32
ryukafalzby which you mean user/pass?21:33
ryukafalzyes21:33
ryukafalzalso my other client using gabble (kde-telepathy) can't connect now either21:33
ryukafalzso something's up...21:33
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ryukafalzyaxim can connect though O.o21:33
ryukafalzmmm never mind21:35
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mgroverhello, am trying to write a db to /usr/share/application/appname/ but cant seem to create at all21:49
mgroveryet it creates in my home folder so am i missing something here21:49
specialthe user's data should go under $HOME21:51
specialpackaged and installed data goes in /usr/share/21:51
mgroveri see21:53
mgroverthat explains a lot, cheers21:54
ryukafalzhmm, I'm not sure how long this battery will last with mobile data enabled :<21:54
mgroverwhat is $HOME?21:54
specialreferring to /home/nemo/21:54
mgroverso I can throw it anywhere inside there?21:54
specialusually /home/nemo/.local/share/ is a good place for databases; with Qt, see QStandardPaths21:54
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specialharbor might also have guidelines if you're planning to use it21:55
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mgroverill have to check em out21:57
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ryukafalzaha! I think I know the issue22:00
ryukafalzhow to resolve it though...22:01
ryukafalzI need to add an SSL root CA, doesn't look like there's a way to do that within the UI though atm22:02
Aarddrop it to /etc/ssl/certs and run multi-c-rehash (only for openssl style storage, not for browser)22:05
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ryukafalzAard: Ahh, multi_c_rehash - thanks!22:09
ryukafalzalso interesting, it seems like I may not have MP3 codecs22:10
ryukafalzFLAC plays fine22:10
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sledgesstephg: got another SIM card to run try?23:09
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ryukafalzooh, boy... deleting an account from the accounts page doesn't delete the associated IM account?23:16
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* ryukafalz needs to start using the backups feature with this OS, heh23:18
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