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| smoku | does anyone got any example connecting PropertiesChanged signal using QDbusInterface? | 01:53 |
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| smoku | all I get is: QObject::connect: No such signal org::freedesktop::DBus::Properties::PropertiesChanged(QString, QMap<QString,QVariant>, QStringList) | 01:54 |
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| tortoisedoc | jee is it update timee?? | 05:45 |
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| tortoisedoc | ? | 05:51 |
| * Stskeeps looks after cofffe | 05:52 | |
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| coderus | morning | 06:28 |
| coderus | update or not update, that is the question! | 06:28 |
| coderus | smoku: i used prop changes in past, it worked | 06:29 |
| Nicd- | hmm, my QML UI gets stuck when I give it a signal with a QVariant | 06:29 |
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| Nicd- | well, void newEvent(QString id, QVariant data) | 06:30 |
| coderus | special: i really didn't found some essential articles about scenegraph or primitive drawings | 06:30 |
| Nicd- | the qvariant is possibly quite complex | 06:30 |
| coderus | use WorkerThread or thread your application yourself | 06:30 |
| Nicd- | it's not that big, it shouldn't get stuck processing | 06:31 |
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| Nicd- | in the QML side the connected function is never executed, the UI goes into a busyloop instead | 06:32 |
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| Nicd- | what do I need to install on the jolla to debug my app? | 06:43 |
| Nicd- | c++ side only is fine for now | 06:43 |
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| coderus | try qml profiler in qt creator | 06:45 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | update? | 07:44 |
| tortoisedoc_ | :) | 07:44 |
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| lainwir3d | hi | 08:03 |
| tortoisedoc_ | store guys, when is paid app support coming? | 08:03 |
| tortoisedoc_ | this lack of details about this important part of the ecosystem is quite annoying to be honest :/ | 08:04 |
| tortoisedoc_ | but also understandable that it is not top priority | 08:04 |
| tortoisedoc_ | coderus: ping | 08:05 |
| narchie | what's Jolla's policy towards NSFW apps? | 08:06 |
| coderus | http://i.imgur.com/kljgnoq.png | 08:07 |
| coderus | tortoisedoc_: pong? | 08:08 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | hey coderus, is it possible to add creditcard support in paypal donation buttons? | 08:09 |
| tortoisedoc_ | (thanks again for the link to the mittakuulu code btw) | 08:09 |
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| coderus | tortoisedoc_: i think its choosed in paypal page | 08:12 |
| coderus | pay with credit card ot paypal | 08:12 |
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| kaltsi | coderus: hello.. sorry, you had asked something over the weekend.. dconf and switching devices between deploy and run | 08:13 |
| Nicd- | tortoisedoc_: mitakuuluu :D | 08:13 |
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| kaltsi | coderus: MSameer might be able to answer dconf questions | 08:13 |
| kaltsi | and could you explain the deploy/run/device problem? | 08:14 |
| tortoisedoc_ | wow someone has ported flappy bird game to Sailfsh :D | 08:16 |
| Bysmyyr | tortoisedoc_: that is nice(and hard) | 08:16 |
| Nicd- | hm, my qt creator stopped connecting to my phone :/ | 08:16 |
| Nicd- | I can ssh nemo@192.168.2.15 just fine though | 08:16 |
| tortoisedoc_ | Bysmyyr : i hate the game but cant stop playing it >_< | 08:17 |
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| kaltsi | Nicd-: what did you do? :) | 08:17 |
| coderus | kaltsi: just if have many devices in qtc config to deploy and run i can't switch them | 08:17 |
| coderus | i'm using previous sdk version | 08:17 |
| coderus | is it fixed in latest? | 08:17 |
| coderus | kaltsi: ^ | 08:17 |
| Nicd- | disconnected the phone and plugged it back in (did that a couple of times again in trying to fix it) | 08:17 |
| kaltsi | coderus: I've forgotten or have been unaware of such a problem.. so no fixes to that | 08:18 |
| tortoisedoc_ | coderus : unfortunately that does not seem to be the case for me at least | 08:18 |
| kaltsi | coderus: how would you switch the device? | 08:18 |
| tortoisedoc_ | with the link you gave me made for quickbar, you can only pay as paypal login | 08:19 |
| tortoisedoc_ | (from phone) | 08:19 |
| kaltsi | coderus: there's a device selector in the build & run settings for each kit.. I haven't tested with more than one device | 08:19 |
| kaltsi | Nicd-: so what happens when you try to connect from qtc? and how do you try it.. have you tried testing the connection from the device settings? | 08:20 |
| kaltsi | Nicd-: it's basically just using ssh connection and keys | 08:21 |
| Nicd- | I know | 08:21 |
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| Nicd- | ah, now it started working on its own | 08:21 |
| Nicd- | it failed with "SSH connection failed: Timeout waiting for reply from server." before | 08:21 |
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| coderus | kaltsi: set default | 08:23 |
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| kaltsi | Nicd-: do you use wifi or usb? | 08:24 |
| Nicd- | usb | 08:25 |
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| kaltsi | ok.. strange | 08:26 |
| coderus | kaltsi: where is device for each kit? | 08:27 |
| kaltsi | build & run / kits should list it | 08:27 |
| coderus | you mean for each build target? | 08:27 |
| kaltsi | yes.. I'm testing the case now | 08:28 |
| coderus | ah, so i should change device here too... :D | 08:28 |
| kaltsi | coderus: may I ask you to create a together.jolla.com case with 'sdk' and 'bug' tag in the future.. less chance to forget things then :) | 08:28 |
| coderus | i think device selector in build and run should be useful | 08:28 |
| coderus | i'll test seecting device in kits page soon | 08:29 |
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| coderus | and let you know | 08:29 |
| kaltsi | ok | 08:29 |
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| kaltsi | coderus: hm I think it works as specified now | 08:35 |
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| kaltsi | coderus: the 'set as default' probably means something else than what it sounds like.. the deploy device target is selected from the kit settings | 08:36 |
| kaltsi | changing the device in the kit works for me at least | 08:37 |
| coderus | kaltsi: ehh | 08:38 |
| coderus | i need to update sdk =( | 08:39 |
| coderus | pkcon deploy no longer working : | 08:39 |
| coderus | :D | 08:39 |
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| kaltsi | there may be a new sdk release in the near future | 08:40 |
| kaltsi | ok I tested this set-as-default and device selection in kit... | 08:41 |
| coderus | i cant deploy anymore :O | 08:41 |
| kaltsi | if you have more than one arm device configured, then the one which is set as default will be the default arm device in any new arm target you might create | 08:41 |
| kaltsi | but you will need to go to the build & run / Kits to change the device to something else than the default | 08:42 |
| coderus | can you dive me changes for using sdk-deploy-rpm? | 08:42 |
| kaltsi | how old sdk do you have? | 08:42 |
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| coderus | previous one | 08:42 |
| kaltsi | it might work with that already.. in qt creator, go to projects tab | 08:43 |
| coderus | ping pm please | 08:44 |
| coderus | pong* | 08:44 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | there! | 09:03 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | you got it! quickbar now is live with support button :P | 09:03 |
| tortoisedoc_ | (on openrepos) | 09:03 |
| tortoisedoc_ | harbour should follow soon (mehopes) | 09:03 |
| tortoisedoc_ | (depending qa) | 09:03 |
| dr_gogeta86 | coderus: a litle ot | 09:05 |
| dr_gogeta86 | but your apkenv for n9 is with bionic included ? | 09:05 |
| coderus | dr_gogeta86: ??? | 09:06 |
| coderus | apkenv is thp child | 09:06 |
| dr_gogeta86 | your package | 09:06 |
| dr_gogeta86 | on openrepos | 09:06 |
| coderus | dr_gogeta86: ah, i think it quite old | 09:06 |
| coderus | and i dont remember what it includes | 09:07 |
| coderus | you can unpack it and look yourself | 09:07 |
| dr_gogeta86 | I'm going to | 09:07 |
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| coderus | i dont remember many things about my harmattan packages | 09:07 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | harmattan is a looong way back :P | 09:10 |
| tortoisedoc_ | difficult to remember, impossible to forget :/ | 09:11 |
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| coderus | tortoisedoc_: pm | 09:14 |
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| blues-man | hello | 09:28 |
| coderus | hello? | 09:29 |
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| stephg | is it me you're looking for? | 09:31 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | SK_work | 09:36 |
| tortoisedoc_ | i can see it in your 3y3sss | 09:37 |
| tortoisedoc_ | https://openrepos.net/content/giuliettasw/quickbar-beta | 09:37 |
| tortoisedoc_ | no ads! :D | 09:37 |
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| stephg | lol | 09:38 |
| * tachikoma likes his jolla :) | 09:42 | |
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| coderus | Stskeeps: so Tahkalampi will be released today? | 09:44 |
| tortoisedoc_ | wooo :D | 09:44 |
| tortoisedoc_ | update! | 09:44 |
| * tortoisedoc_ happy | 09:44 | |
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| Stskeeps | coderus: i know nothing about nothin' | 09:45 |
| * tortoisedoc_ pokes Stskeeps with stick | 09:45 | |
| tortoisedoc_ | come on ;) | 09:45 |
| coderus | :D | 09:45 |
| tachikoma | yay, update :) | 09:45 |
| coderus | whisper in the ear ;) | 09:45 |
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| Scelt | UPDATE | 09:46 |
| Scelt | updateupdateupdate | 09:46 |
| Scelt | mushroom mushroom | 09:46 |
| stephg | SNAAAAKE | 09:46 |
| Scelt | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGlyFc79BUE | 09:46 |
| Scelt | to get the mood | 09:46 |
| tortoisedoc_ | :D | 09:46 |
| lainwir3d | You know nothing Jon Snow | 09:49 |
| lainwir3d | huh.. I mean, you know nothing Stskeeps | 09:49 |
| Scelt | are you referring to Jon Snow original or the one on GOT? | 09:50 |
| lainwir3d | original ? Is there a Jon Snow beside the one in GOT ? | 09:51 |
| Scelt | wikipedia it, sure there is | 09:51 |
| lainwir3d | wow your video nearly made my brain burst | 09:51 |
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| Scelt | cos you know, I can see the similarity in Stskeeps and the GOT Jon Snow. starting from the lady's men mustache and lovely curly hair... | 09:51 |
| * Stskeeps twitches | 09:52 | |
| lainwir3d | haha | 09:52 |
| Scelt | lainwir3d: that's what happens near the update, for all of us | 09:52 |
| lainwir3d | :D | 09:52 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | so the update IS coming today :D | 09:53 |
| * tortoisedoc_ mush mushroom! | 09:54 | |
| Scelt | tortoisedoc_: I find no other reason for Stskeeps to twitch like that | 09:54 |
| Stskeeps | well the fact that it's 25 C here in warsaw.. :P | 09:55 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | it's 30 C in espoo atm :P | 09:55 |
| tortoisedoc_ | and i should definitely be on some terass drinking b33r | 09:55 |
| Scelt | Stskeeps: oh, you work from Warsaw? I thought you lived in Finland | 09:55 |
| Stskeeps | Scelt: nah, danish, living in warsaw, working for finnish company.. | 09:55 |
| Scelt | tortoisedoc_: high five to that | 09:56 |
| Scelt | Stskeeps: yeah, I thought it's a bit odd name for a Polisher | 09:56 |
| Scelt | Stskeeps: how you often you visit the place of the master race, ah, I meant Finland? | 09:57 |
| Stskeeps | Scelt: monthly if i can | 09:57 |
| Scelt | kewl! | 09:58 |
| tadzik | update? :o | 09:59 |
| ruskie | lol | 10:00 |
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| Scelt | this time I'm very keen about the update since I've been having tough time with messageserver5 | 10:01 |
| Scelt | this: https://together.jolla.com/question/42160/email-update-fails-and-messageserver5-goes-crazy/ | 10:01 |
| tadzik | will the update only be available for The First Ones at first? | 10:03 |
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| pp | usually for a few hours? | 10:04 |
| Nicd- | Scelt: I had messageserver5 taking all my memory and swap too, didn't use cpu though | 10:05 |
| tadzik | oh, few hours is okay | 10:05 |
| Scelt | Nicd-: for me it hogs the cpu. damn it's annoying since the whole phone becomes unusable | 10:05 |
| tadzik | now that I jumped the ship I kinda wish I could buy an orange OH saying "The Second One" :D | 10:06 |
| Juuba | i've seen similar "get stuck" happenings... | 10:06 |
| Juuba | dunno what was the cause | 10:06 |
| Juuba | usually it happens when starting some android heavy-ish program while I have some other apps running | 10:06 |
| Juuba | mainly: browser | 10:06 |
| Juuba | closing the browser seems to help in my case | 10:07 |
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| Scelt | the browser stucks some times on its own. that's pretty annoying too | 10:07 |
| Juuba | for me: it always stucks on first page load after opening the app | 10:08 |
| Scelt | I would use android google chrome but the android support seems to be an issue too | 10:08 |
| Juuba | doesn't matter if I open it manually or if the email/facebook/androidapps open it | 10:08 |
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| nazanin | thp: ping | 10:12 |
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| lainwir3d | wow | 10:14 |
| lainwir3d | my phone just rebooted 2 times in a row, hasn't happened in a long time | 10:14 |
| lainwir3d | ok | 10:15 |
| lainwir3d | 3rd times | 10:15 |
| lainwir3d | now i'm getting scared | 10:15 |
| Scelt | take the battery out and put it back after 10 mins | 10:15 |
| lainwir3d | ok | 10:16 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | is sdk update coming too? | 10:17 |
| tortoisedoc_ | :) | 10:17 |
| Stskeeps | lainwir3d: and contact care. | 10:18 |
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| lainwir3d | even if it doesn't reboot after I put back the battery ? | 10:18 |
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| cos- | lainwir3d: send it to service or apply the battery mount fix yourself | 10:27 |
| tortoisedoc_ | hmm | 10:27 |
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| cos- | there should be zero reboots on a working Jolla | 10:27 |
| tortoisedoc_ | what's the name for the sailfish close icon? | 10:27 |
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| lainwir3d | cos-: battery mount fix ? The paper ? Already done it, that's why I said it didn't happened in a long time. | 10:28 |
| cos- | i think it involves removing some padding from battery mount with a knife and adding padding to bottom of the battery | 10:29 |
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| cos- | i think i'll compare my fixed phone with a unfixed version and make a blog posting about it some day | 10:34 |
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| lainwir3d | that would be nice :) | 10:35 |
| cos- | in the fixed phone battery is very rigidly in its place.. it's very difficult to remove withot any tool | 10:35 |
| tbr-fi | I still think instead of wedging in the battery harder, making sure the pins are well connected would be better... | 10:35 |
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| tbr-fi | e.g. cleaning the pins, properly, and making sure there is no oxidation or anything | 10:35 |
| lainwir3d | well anyway I think it might not be the same problem. The reboot happens only if i input the PIN code. | 10:36 |
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| cos- | btw they also cleaned the contact pins - i don't know how much it had effect. they were not visibly dirty. | 10:36 |
| lainwir3d | Someone had the same problem on TJC | 10:36 |
| lainwir3d | Oh I'll do that too, that can't hurt | 10:36 |
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| cos- | i believe it's very common problem | 10:36 |
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| cos- | after my phone was fixed (~4 weeks ago) i haven't had a single reboot | 10:37 |
| lainwir3d | since i put the paper ~2months ago i had only 2 reboots | 10:38 |
| lainwir3d | until this morning | 10:38 |
| lainwir3d | hmmm | 10:38 |
| lainwir3d | ok | 10:38 |
| lainwir3d | didn't reboot after taking out the battery 10minutes | 10:38 |
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| lainwir3d | I'll put the phone on charge | 10:39 |
| flux | I had a few reboots afterr the latest firmware | 10:39 |
| flux | did nothing, and then I haven't had reboots for a long time | 10:39 |
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| flux | so it seems it can just vary. | 10:39 |
| lainwir3d | yeah same | 10:39 |
| coderus | why sailfish downgrading pckage versions when upgrading os version? | 10:40 |
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| lainwir3d | well, honestly I like it when my devices are a bit buggy :-P As long as there is a fix and it works again after | 10:40 |
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| coderus | i have app with version greater installed locally and it replaced with version from store which s lower =/ | 10:48 |
| tortoisedoc_ | coderus : you updating already? :O | 10:51 |
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| coderus | no | 11:05 |
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| coderus | justthis question is most aked by me | 11:10 |
| coderus | and it was newer answered | 11:10 |
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| special | coderus: store updates get you the exact set of packages even if that means downgrading | 11:11 |
| coderus | after every upgrade i reinstalling bbash and tweetian to last versions, because it "upgraded" to official ones | 11:12 |
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| special | helps keep things sane | 11:12 |
| coderus | pita | 11:13 |
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| coderus | Tahkalampi include connman fix? | 11:20 |
| Scelt | coderus: ye | 11:21 |
| Scelt | coderus: asked that on friday | 11:21 |
| coderus | ok, thanks | 11:21 |
| coderus | do, the most featured feature of update is androd aps in separate windows? | 11:22 |
| coderus | so* | 11:22 |
| dr_gogeta86 | Scelt: I hope you fix battery drain .... | 11:26 |
| dr_gogeta86 | after optin was a painal | 11:26 |
| Scelt | dr_gogeta86: how you want me to fix it? | 11:27 |
| Scelt | with a large stone? | 11:27 |
| dr_gogeta86 | no | 11:27 |
| dr_gogeta86 | I wan't to fix | 11:27 |
| dr_gogeta86 | killing vmtouch | 11:27 |
| dr_gogeta86 | every 2 hours | 11:27 |
| dr_gogeta86 | and all sync framework | 11:27 |
| Scelt | dr_gogeta86: yeah, but I have to nothing to do with it. I'm just a user | 11:28 |
| dr_gogeta86 | who is following this peeps | 11:28 |
| dr_gogeta86 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vd_Bd7k73Mo&feature=share | 11:28 |
| Scelt | it's mr. Aard whom I asked about the connman included in Tahkalampi | 11:28 |
| tadzik | wow. What is a "booster" process? | 11:34 |
| tadzik | I've just seen it jump so high it drew the bar on the left in Lighthouse | 11:34 |
| special | it preloads resources to speed up application launch | 11:35 |
| special | it's normal to see it spike in activity a few seconds after launching an application | 11:35 |
| tadzik | ah, that makes sense | 11:37 |
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| coderus | it boosting yout battery comsumption | 11:42 |
| coderus | when it drains not fast enough | 11:42 |
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| coderus | special: | 11:57 |
| coderus | special: i didnf found any beginners tutorial for scenegraph :) | 11:57 |
| Stskeeps | i don't think it's possible really to be a beginner in that.. | 11:57 |
| Stskeeps | either you grok it, or you don't .. :P | 11:58 |
| coderus | born with knowledge? :D | 11:58 |
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| special | QQuickItem::updatePaintNode updates/creates QSGNodes which are placed into the scenegraph and render when needed | 11:59 |
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| coderus | i want tutorial how to draw primitive 2d objects with scenegraph :) | 11:59 |
| special | most things can be done with a combination of the existing QSGNode subclasses | 11:59 |
| special | best resource is source code | 11:59 |
| coderus | what source code? | 12:00 |
| special | Qt's | 12:00 |
| coderus | :D | 12:00 |
| special | I didn't say it would be easy. | 12:00 |
| w00t_ | Stskeeps: welll... | 12:02 |
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| w00t_ | i understand enough about opengl to be dangerous, and i understand the principles of how the SG works, but i still have no idea about writing my own stuff for it :P | 12:02 |
| coderus | special: really, i just need some starting point, some project already working | 12:03 |
| coderus | but i cant find anything now | 12:03 |
| special | coderus: QQuickRectangle? QQuickImage? there's lots of code in Qt that demonstrates how it's used | 12:03 |
| coderus | special: thats it! | 12:03 |
| coderus | thank you! | 12:04 |
| ryukafalz | dr_gogeta86: I was watching haha | 12:06 |
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| giucam | coderus: have you seen http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5/qtquick-visualcanvas-scenegraph.html? | 12:07 |
| coderus | and also about https://lists.sailfishos.org/pipermail/devel/2014-June/004529.html, RPM-Side changes, #4 | 12:07 |
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| coderus | any example for allowing packagekit for application? | 12:09 |
| coderus | adding restrictions without publishing exact info about adding privileges is not ok :) | 12:11 |
| ryukafalz | If anyone here's used Sailfish on a N4, how's the performance vs. on a Jolla? | 12:13 |
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| tbr | ryukafalz: pretty similar IMO | 12:15 |
| ryukafalz | Sweet, that's what I like to hear :) | 12:16 |
| Stskeeps | of course n4 has quad core and 2gb ram, so that helps, but yeah.. | 12:16 |
| ryukafalz | ehehe | 12:16 |
| ryukafalz | now the real question... sailfish vs. android on the n4 ;) | 12:16 |
| Stskeeps | try it out | 12:16 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 12:16 |
| * ryukafalz needs an n4 first :P | 12:17 | |
| ryukafalz | which requires my dad to stop being lazy about carrier stuffs... I'm still on my parents' family plan | 12:17 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | sk_work: what kind of patches could you do for quickbar if the qml is opened up? | 12:26 |
| SK_work | tortoisedoc_: I don't know | 12:27 |
| SK_work | you should ask everybody :) | 12:27 |
| tortoisedoc_ | :D | 12:27 |
| SK_work | what kind of features could land in quickbar if it was open | 12:27 |
| tortoisedoc_ | hmm most likely not too much | 12:28 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | atm at least | 12:28 |
| SK_work | tortoisedoc_: you never know | 12:28 |
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| SK_work | maybe atm | 12:28 |
| SK_work | but SFOS community is surprising :) | 12:28 |
| SK_work | indeed | 12:28 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | SK_work : maybe should opensource qml and put it on git hub :P | 12:52 |
| tortoisedoc_ | and start accepting pull request | 12:52 |
| coderus | just dont use qrc | 12:53 |
| coderus | and here we go | 12:53 |
| lainwir3d | what's wrong with qrc ? | 12:53 |
| coderus | you cant recompile it if app not opensource | 12:54 |
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| coderus | and you can't hack it. :) | 12:54 |
| lainwir3d | oh. | 12:54 |
| coderus | well, 99% of users can't hack it :) | 12:54 |
| coderus | 99.99% | 12:54 |
| coderus | qrc need if you store some copyright media resources, images and etc | 12:55 |
| coderus | qrc is pita for qml imho :) | 12:55 |
| lainwir3d | does sailfish media player supports MPRIS ? | 12:57 |
| lainwir3d | and is there any roadmap on AVRCP 1.3 support ? :-) Especially sending metadata info | 12:57 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | qrc makes life of developer alot easier tho | 13:03 |
| tortoisedoc_ | no need to hassle with qt project files to remember everything :P | 13:03 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | and also, not everything is maybe meant to be customized | 13:04 |
| tortoisedoc_ | customization like it or not creates confusion | 13:05 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | I am not against it btw :P | 13:05 |
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| coderus | lainwir3d: afaik no | 13:08 |
| coderus | use quasarmx ;) | 13:08 |
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| lainwir3d | hmmm, I would have been nice to be able to retrieve current playing song from stock media player | 13:09 |
| lainwir3d | it* | 13:10 |
| SK_work | https://together.jolla.com/question/49643/the-voice-of-jolla-community/ | 13:10 |
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| tadzik | lainwir3d: yeah, I'd love that too. You can achieve it by hacking the qml though, someone did that for Skipping Stones app | 13:15 |
| lainwir3d | hmmm, Wouldn't that forbid store entrance though ? | 13:17 |
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| coderus | just wait QuasarMX release in store | 13:24 |
| coderus | and be amazed with full-featured audio player :) | 13:24 |
| lainwir3d | lol | 13:27 |
| lainwir3d | It's not only me :P I can't force user to use QuasarMX for my app to be working | 13:28 |
| lainwir3d | well.. working with all functionnalities | 13:28 |
| lainwir3d | but yeah, Quasar MX looks awesome :) | 13:29 |
| cos- | is the stock media player oss? | 13:29 |
| lainwir3d | cos-: not in my knowledge | 13:29 |
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| coderus | cos-: not oss | 13:31 |
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| coderus | lainwir3d: what is your app? | 13:34 |
| ryukafalz | Hmm, so why are Sailfish app icons PNG and not some vector format? | 13:34 |
| coderus | because of performance? | 13:35 |
| lainwir3d | probably | 13:35 |
| coderus | optimized for launcher | 13:36 |
| cos- | i'm skeptical that svg would cause any significant performance loss | 13:36 |
| ryukafalz | fair enough, though you could rasterize the icon once and cache it | 13:36 |
| lainwir3d | though i guess the svg could be pre-rendered into a pixmap, or something like that | 13:36 |
| cos- | harmattan had svg icons | 13:36 |
| coderus | ryukafalz: you can do whatever you need :) | 13:36 |
| coderus | cos-: it havent for system | 13:37 |
| coderus | but you not restricted to use svg | 13:37 |
| coderus | same here | 13:37 |
| cos- | coderus: app icons were svg (or they at least worked) | 13:37 |
| coderus | just install svg image provider component and use svg if you really need it | 13:37 |
| coderus | cos-: no. icons are 90x90 png in harmattan :) | 13:37 |
| coderus | symbian had svg, not harmattan ;) | 13:38 |
| cos- | desktop linuxes also use svg as default icon format | 13:38 |
| lainwir3d | coderus: can't really say at the moment, but I need to be able to send metadata to a bluetooth device. Either automatically via AVRCP 1.3, or send it myself if AVRCP 1.3 doesn't exist (which it doesn't atm) | 13:38 |
| cos- | coderus: oh. perhaps i remember wrong.. | 13:38 |
| coderus | cos-: and desktop linuxes using png too. set of pngs for different sizes. from 16x16 to 512x512. just some of apps using scalable svg iconset | 13:39 |
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| coderus | as already said: you can use svg in sailfish too if you really need to use it | 13:40 |
| coderus | its not forbidden :) | 13:41 |
| cos- | i bet svg icons are not accepted in store apps though | 13:42 |
| ryukafalz | according to https://harbour.jolla.com/faq icons must be png | 13:43 |
| cos- | it's a bit oldschool to use bitmap images anywhere in 2014 imo | 13:43 |
| ryukafalz | finally broke down and bought a nexus 4 so I can actually run sailfish, heh | 13:44 |
| tadzik | huh, why not just buy a Jolla? | 13:45 |
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| ryukafalz | over twice the price, and no US 3G frequencies | 13:45 |
| ryukafalz | afaik | 13:45 |
| tadzik | ah, yes | 13:45 |
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| ryukafalz | it's a beautiful phone, but as a broke college student it's somewhat out of my price range | 13:46 |
| tadzik | understood | 13:47 |
| tadzik | I had mixed feelings buying it too | 13:47 |
| ryukafalz | I kinda wanted an N9, because I like that Nokia/Jolla type design, but the N9's hardware is getting somewhat dated :P | 13:48 |
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| ryukafalz | always wanted one of those, and was really disappointed when Nokia partnered with MS | 13:49 |
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| gabriel9 | N9 is the best phone i ever had | 14:41 |
| gabriel9 | but i hope jolla will catch up | 14:41 |
| ryukafalz | gabriel9: What do you think the N9/Harmattan did better than Jolla/Sailfish? | 14:42 |
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| gabriel9 | quality of the hardware, better swipe | 14:43 |
| lainwir3d | better swipe ? | 14:44 |
| gabriel9 | more natural, best 3 screens ever | 14:44 |
| gabriel9 | yes | 14:44 |
| Stskeeps | n9 hardware also was what, 4 years under development? | 14:44 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 14:44 |
| gabriel9 | :) | 14:44 |
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| lainwir3d | haven't noticed that. | 14:44 |
| gabriel9 | i'm not trolling or poisoning | 14:44 |
| ryukafalz | you're making me want an N9 again XD | 14:44 |
| gabriel9 | but my screen on jolla is going yellow on one place :( | 14:44 |
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| gabriel9 | getting* | 14:45 |
| lainwir3d | One thing I didn't like on N9 was swiping away from an app didn't always put you on the same screen | 14:45 |
| tadzik | . o O ( I want a rubberhalf ) | 14:45 |
| lainwir3d | except if you installed an app to manage it | 14:45 |
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| gabriel9 | i want hkb | 14:45 |
| lainwir3d | sailfish is more consistent on this | 14:45 |
| gabriel9 | sailfish will grow i am sure on that | 14:45 |
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| lainwir3d | i love the current swipe behaviour much better that N9 honestly | 14:46 |
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| gabriel9 | horisontal is more natural and easy :) | 14:47 |
| lainwir3d | Well I guess it's a matter of taste | 14:47 |
| cos- | it should be configurable | 14:47 |
| gabriel9 | cos: that is the solution | 14:47 |
| gabriel9 | jolla i hope you read this :) | 14:47 |
| tadzik | take it to together.j.c :) | 14:48 |
| Turski | i miss N9's amoled clearblack screen on these sunny days | 14:48 |
| gabriel9 | did they plan to get jolla2? | 14:48 |
| lainwir3d | oh yeah, sunny days are a nightmare | 14:48 |
| lainwir3d | I love rain a lot more since I got a jolla | 14:48 |
| lainwir3d | :P | 14:48 |
| cos- | this is related https://together.jolla.com/question/40521/add-global-lock-screen-gesture/ | 14:49 |
| manqeloq1e | jolla is also too big for my hand, while n9 was perfect | 14:49 |
| gabriel9 | same here | 14:49 |
| cos- | same here | 14:49 |
| tadzik | "This is quite difficult to do with one hand, especially if you are driving or cycling" | 14:49 |
| lainwir3d | still a matter of taste / hand size tough. The perfect solution would be to have multiple devices to choose from | 14:49 |
| tadzik | areyoufuckingserious.jpg | 14:49 |
| gabriel9 | i dont know how people live with note... | 14:50 |
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| FireFly | Jolla is okay, might be a bit too big | 14:57 |
| Nicd- | cos-: what about the power button? | 14:58 |
| tadzik | hah | 14:59 |
| tadzik | /thread | 14:59 |
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| FireFly | I'd prefer if I could map the left or bottom edge to something else instead | 15:02 |
| klarre | Do anyone know what GCC version that is used in the Sailfish SDK? | 15:02 |
| simbrown | Turski: I miss the N9's screen too, much easier to read and the standby time and notifications were great. | 15:03 |
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| gabriel9 | bot swype was great on N9 | 15:07 |
| gabriel9 | :D | 15:07 |
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| inte | isn't there swype for the Jolla as well? | 15:09 |
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| inte | http://www.jollausers.com/2014/07/video-swype-keyboard-teaser-for-sailfish-os/ | 15:12 |
| inte | to come, at least | 15:12 |
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| TemeV | is it possible (easily) to add search engines to sailfish-browser? I'd like to use duckduckgo instead of google :) | 15:18 |
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| Bysmyyr | interesting question... | 15:20 |
| Wnt | TemeV: first result from google with sailfish-browser duckduckgo: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=92129 :P | 15:23 |
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| Bysmyyr | I like to use startpage.com , but that is maybe harder... | 15:25 |
| TemeV | Wnt: thanks, just realised also that I could maybe google it my self, but I can't remove my question from irc :) | 15:25 |
| TemeV | classical ask first, think later... | 15:25 |
| Wnt | Bysmyyr: first google result with search terms "sailfish-browser starpage.com": https://together.jolla.com/question/4959/add-more-search-engines-to-the-web-browser/ see the first answer :) | 15:26 |
| Bysmyyr | Wnt: thanks :P I am too lazy... | 15:26 |
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| nh1402 | I was trying to build the sailfish rom for the nexus 5, ,using the sources provided by Siteshwar and VGrade, and ran into the following error when using the mer image creator "error 21 is a directory /etc/upstream" | 15:28 |
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| locusf | how is it possible to modify the homescreen to use QmlPath::to/append function? I have set my QmlPath::append("/usr/share/foo") and my compositor resides there too, but it cannot see the compositor subfolder from there? | 15:54 |
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| locusf | oh its just that qml installs the file flatly, not by subdirs | 15:55 |
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| coderus | kimmoli: ping | 17:29 |
| coderus | kimmoli: https://github.com/CODeRUS/mitakuuluu2/commit/862a422ac3e67ec21c45cdc4aae4ccdd62dcef37 | 17:29 |
| coderus | i have some time for fixing mitakuuluu bugs now :) | 17:31 |
| coderus | what is the most urgent bug except pcu consumption for you? | 17:32 |
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| lainwir3d | coderus: cpu consumption | 17:36 |
| lainwir3d | i don't know what pcu is :-P | 17:36 |
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| kimmoli | coderus: yep got mail ... need to adapt my code to that then :p | 17:50 |
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| coderus | lainwir3d: lol | 17:56 |
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| soexit | d | 18:00 |
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| lainwir3d | is there a way to set a initial property value when initializing a QML item without firing the property change event ? | 18:07 |
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| lainwir3d | have to go :-/ | 18:12 |
| lainwir3d | see you tomorrow | 18:12 |
| lainwir3d | bye | 18:12 |
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| cos- | Nicd-: it may also be hard to reach | 19:01 |
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| tortoisedoc | boom | 19:11 |
| tortoisedoc | :D | 19:11 |
| tortoisedoc | no update :| | 19:11 |
| tortoisedoc | (yet) | 19:11 |
| * tortoisedoc cries a little | 19:11 | |
| tortoisedoc | damn me and my adhd | 19:11 |
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| * elenril wonders if the media player will play mka | 19:12 | |
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| cos- | should there be a update soon? | 19:12 |
| tortoisedoc | cos-: maybe? | 19:13 |
| * tortoisedoc pokes Stskeeps | 19:14 | |
| tortoisedoc | Stskeeps : any packages with snapdragon coprocessor code available on mer? | 19:14 |
| tortoisedoc | ;_; | 19:21 |
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| tortoisedoc | *coprocessor : dsp etc | 19:25 |
| tbr | tortoisedoc: gstreamer uses hw codecs already IIRC | 19:28 |
| tortoisedoc | tbr ; thanks; I believe there is a separate sdk for codes development ? | 19:28 |
| tbr | tortoisedoc: ask qualcomm, that's not a jolla thing | 19:28 |
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| tortoisedoc | tbr : thanks, I will | 19:39 |
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| Myusdat | hi | 19:41 |
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| Myusdat | cooming soon Turkish language? | 19:56 |
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| vgrade_ | evening, anyone used the colorpicker ? | 20:02 |
| vgrade_ | http://pastie.org/9365155 would like to extract the rgb from color, possible in pure QML? | 20:02 |
| special | extract in what form? | 20:03 |
| vgrade_ | special: into a string in the form h1h2h3 | 20:09 |
| special | iirc that happens when you use a color as a string? | 20:09 |
| vgrade_ | special: each color selected when output to log is in the form #rrggbb | 20:12 |
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| vgrade_ | I need to send rrggbb | 20:13 |
| vgrade_ | via network | 20:13 |
| coderus | and just plain qml | 20:13 |
| coderus | and can't make extra plugin? | 20:13 |
| special | (yourColor + '').substr(1) ? | 20:14 |
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| vgrade_ | coderus: I don't know whats possible in just qml | 20:14 |
| coderus | i found that: https://www.mail-archive.com/qt-qml@trolltech.com/msg01390.html | 20:15 |
| special | that post is from 2010. | 20:15 |
| kimmoli | i did make and use simple c++ extension to convert color to "text" RRGGBB hex-notation-string. was fustrated in getting it work in JS/QML | 20:17 |
| vgrade_ | special: bingo | 20:17 |
| vgrade_ | special: thanks | 20:17 |
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| vgrade_ | special: so adding '' converted to string | 20:18 |
| w00t_ | it -is- javascript :p | 20:18 |
| * vgrade_ has lots to learn | 20:19 | |
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| kimmoli | coderus: ping - mitakuuluu dbus / toholed integration - what signal could i connect to get notified about new message ? Tried to look from source, but i failed | 20:28 |
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| vgrade_ | special: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlHwif0cVmI | 20:43 |
| special | vgrade_: hah, neat | 20:45 |
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| kimmoli | maybe it is time to get few lifx too... | 20:53 |
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| skvark | I want one too.. | 20:59 |
| skvark | or a couple of them :P | 21:00 |
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| Naglfar | it looks good vgrade_, seems like this app allow you to select screen color | 21:02 |
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| Naglfar | sorry vgrade_, I see it's an color controlled bulb by your phone | 21:12 |
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