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| vgrade_ | mornig | 07:46 |
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| squidd | morning | 07:46 |
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| vgrade_ | hi squidd | 07:47 |
| squidd | hello | 07:47 |
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| stephg | merlin1991 thx | 07:56 |
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| coderus | morning | 08:04 |
| coderus | can anyone give me minimal working qml code vor video recording? | 08:04 |
| coderus | im getting [W 00:37:38] CameraBin error: "Internal data flow error." | 08:04 |
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| Loris_ | i just wondered....is sailfish using Xorg or Wayland? | 08:19 |
| ln- | wayland | 08:20 |
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| zhxt__ | coderus, you're writing a camera app for Sailfish? | 08:27 |
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| zhxt__ | coderus, It seems sailfishos is using droidcamsrc, and Qt multimedia using v4l2src included in gst-bad. | 08:30 |
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| coderus | zhxt__: i'm making video capture functionality for Mitakuuluu | 08:32 |
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| kimmoli | ok, i can ssh to mersdk, but QtCreator says it can not connect to it | 08:45 |
| kimmoli | either restart mersdk from qycreator or rebootng it over ssh help | 08:47 |
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| Stskeeps | good morning all | 09:34 |
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| coderus | morning | 09:37 |
| coderus | i ened help in videoRecorder settings. i need poor quality settings for video note ~10s. played with parameters manually and 9/10 i'm getting Internal flow error | 09:38 |
| tbr | gstreamer is a b*tch | 09:41 |
| Stskeeps | coderus: rememver resource policy | 09:43 |
| coderus | Stskeeps: resource policy? | 09:44 |
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| Stskeeps | yes | 09:44 |
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| Stskeeps | reserve the video resource | 09:44 |
| Stskeeps | moo qwazix | 09:44 |
| coderus | i'm checking jolla-camera | 09:45 |
| coderus | and i see only mediakeys resource | 09:45 |
| coderus | nothing more | 09:45 |
| coderus | also jolla-gallery have no video/avi mime association :D | 09:46 |
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| saber_ | SOS... | 09:48 |
| saber_ | the ctrl-c and ctrl-a hotkey in my Sailfish SDK suddently not work | 09:49 |
| coderus | locale? | 09:49 |
| saber_ | ctrl-c becomes the hotkey of "End" | 09:49 |
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| saber_ | I cannot copy any text in sailfishSDK | 09:50 |
| saber_ | but in other application likes firefox, it works :( | 09:50 |
| coderus | Tools -> Settings -> Environment -> Keyboard | 09:51 |
| saber_ | I use ubuntu 14.04 | 09:51 |
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| saber_ | Yes | 09:51 |
| saber_ | I tried to look for that option | 09:52 |
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| saber_ | but it shows that copy is "ctrl+c" | 09:52 |
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| saber_ | just nothing special and it is normal | 09:52 |
| saber_ | Though, I tried to reset settings and reinstall it | 09:52 |
| saber_ | this case still present T ^ T | 09:53 |
| saber_ | I pressed "ctrl+c", the right corner changed to "COMMAND" mode | 09:53 |
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| saber_ | lol | 09:54 |
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| coderus | http://qt-project.org/doc/qtcreator-2.6/creator-keyboard-shortcuts.html | 09:55 |
| coderus | right corner "COMMAND" ? | 09:55 |
| coderus | show screenshot pleaes | 09:55 |
| SaberArtoria | OK | 09:56 |
| coderus | MSameer: qwazix: ping | 09:56 |
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| MSameer | coderus: pong? | 09:56 |
| SaberArtoria | http://holland.pk/ie5un0kt | 09:57 |
| coderus | MSameer: help me with video recording please :) | 09:57 |
| SaberArtoria | the bottom-right corner | 09:58 |
| MSameer | coderus: don't ask to ask. just ask ;) | 09:58 |
| MSameer | what's the issue? | 09:58 |
| coderus | i need poor settings configuration for recording vioce note ~10s | 09:59 |
| coderus | video note* | 09:59 |
| coderus | 9/10 i'm gettingg Internal data flow error | 09:59 |
| Morpog_PC___ | he wants low quality recording settings for small file size of videos | 09:59 |
| MSameer | coderus: what are you using? | 10:00 |
| coderus | and also my camcorder making quicktime videos :D | 10:00 |
| coderus | if i changing to video/avi container it saving video with broken header | 10:00 |
| coderus | MSameer: qml | 10:00 |
| coderus | videoRecorder{ | 10:01 |
| coderus | resolution: extensions.viewfinderResolution | 10:01 |
| coderus | frameRate: 30 | 10:01 |
| coderus | audioChannels: 2 | 10:01 |
| coderus | audioSampleRate: 48000 | 10:01 |
| coderus | audioCodec: "audio/mpeg, mpegversion=(int)4" | 10:01 |
| coderus | videoCodec: "video/mpeg, mpegversion=(int)4" | 10:01 |
| coderus | mediaContainer: "video/quicktime, variant=(string)iso" | 10:01 |
| coderus | this is my current configuration | 10:01 |
| Morpog_PC___ | pastie.org coderus ;) | 10:01 |
| coderus | i'm using 640x480 viewfinder here | 10:01 |
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| coderus | and 10 seconds video took 5MB, i want lower :D | 10:02 |
| MSameer | coderus: don't save mpeg4 stream into avi | 10:02 |
| MSameer | coderus: I am not entirely sure it's even possible | 10:02 |
| SaberArtoria | @coderus Problem solved :) | 10:02 |
| coderus | SaberArtoria: good, how? | 10:02 |
| MSameer | coderus: set the bitrate for the video encoder to something low | 10:03 |
| SaberArtoria | the vim style editing mode is on | 10:03 |
| coderus | MSameer: i tried video/mp4, gstreamer said its missing plugins :) | 10:03 |
| MSameer | coderus: you remember those preset files ? ;) | 10:03 |
| SaberArtoria | so copy and paste go to alt+v and alt+c | 10:03 |
| SaberArtoria | thz so much | 10:03 |
| coderus | MSameer: yup | 10:03 |
| coderus | MSameer: i'm loading jolla-camera presets | 10:03 |
| coderus | its still same project :) | 10:03 |
| MSameer | coderus: that won't work :/ | 10:04 |
| coderus | MSameer: how to change video bitrate and container? | 10:04 |
| coderus | MSameer: ?? | 10:04 |
| MSameer | coderus: you need a preset with a lower bitrate and the jolla camera ones do not have that preset | 10:04 |
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| coderus | MSameer: ahh! | 10:05 |
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| MSameer | coderus: container != file extension BTW | 10:05 |
| coderus | thats it :) | 10:05 |
| coderus | okay, i see now | 10:05 |
| MSameer | coderus: video/quicktime is mp4 (just woke up so still loading my brain db :D) | 10:05 |
| coderus | can you help me with good preset config? | 10:05 |
| MSameer | coderus: I can help as much as I can but it's mainly about the bitrate | 10:06 |
| MSameer | coderus: if you have a jolla phone, check the android media caps (find /system -name "*media*.xml" | 10:06 |
| MSameer | I'd check there as a starting point ;) | 10:06 |
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| coderus | http://paste.kde.org/piqjuffjh | 10:08 |
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| MSameer | coderus: line 355 | 10:10 |
| MSameer | it's h264 but we can start from there | 10:10 |
| MSameer | or you can use h264 ;-) | 10:11 |
| Morpog_PC___ | h264 sounds good for small file size | 10:11 |
| coderus | will try if it supported | 10:11 |
| coderus | MSameer: well, how to set this for preset and how to enable my preset? | 10:12 |
| tbr | set low bitrate, probably qvga or cif and be done with it. by the looks of that pastebin that's perfectly supported | 10:12 |
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| qwazix | coderus, pong | 10:12 |
| MSameer | coderus: unfortunately I am not sure at all | 10:13 |
| qwazix | tho if you needed be for video recording I'm not the right person :P | 10:13 |
| MSameer | coderus: have you checked the .qml files for jolla camera as an inspiration? | 10:13 |
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| MSameer | coderus: I don't have my jolla connected to the laptop to check for you :/ | 10:14 |
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| coderus | MSameer: there is Settings proprietary plugin handling tat :\ | 10:16 |
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| coderus | imho it should be automatically fetched by resolution | 10:17 |
| coderus | MSameer: so, can you just point me in creating preset? | 10:18 |
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| Morpog_PC___ | coderus, iirc video recording uses a gstreamer preset | 10:18 |
| MSameer | coderus: https://github.com/mer-packages/qtmultimedia/commit/f03cdb5132f2bcfa3cc7d75ec03a21264ecce685 | 10:19 |
| coderus | Morpog_PC___: we're talking about same :) | 10:19 |
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| MSameer | coderus: seems the preset is a parameter to the qtmultimedia encoder settings | 10:19 |
| MSameer | coderus: the guy who created that commit is the guy doing camera. feel free to bug him | 10:20 |
| faenil | MSameer, btw, I think this I can redirect one question to you | 10:21 |
| coderus | MSameer: so, probably video/mpeg, mpegversion=(int)4 preset=myPreset should work? | 10:21 |
| MSameer | faenil: which question? | 10:21 |
| faenil | from #nemomobile | 10:21 |
| faenil | <thiagoss> Hi, I just stumbled on https://github.com/nemomobile-packages/gst-plugins-good/blob/master/rpm/0003-isomp4-Add-support-for-rotation-information-in-strea.patch and I think this would be nice to have in upstream gstreamer. | 10:21 |
| faenil | <thiagoss> Who should I talk to? | 10:21 |
| faenil | it's by the same camera guy, but I thought you could be good as well since it's gstreamer | 10:22 |
| MSameer | no | 10:22 |
| faenil | okay, sorry then ;) | 10:22 |
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| MSameer | speak to that guy | 10:23 |
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| faenil | yeah told him to send him an email ;) | 10:23 |
| coderus | MSameer: or how to contact with adenexter? | 10:23 |
| faenil | coderus, there's an email :) | 10:24 |
| faenil | (at least) | 10:24 |
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| coderus | cant find :> | 10:25 |
| faenil | look at the link I pasted ;) | 10:25 |
| MSameer | coderus: sailfishos-devel mailing list? | 10:25 |
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| MSameer | coderus: he posted to the list | 10:26 |
| faenil | there's the email on the patch I posted | 10:27 |
| coderus | aha got it, thanks | 10:27 |
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| MSameer | coderus: all camera/multimedia/qt multimedia issues -> go to him | 10:28 |
| MSameer | I was never the right person anyway | 10:28 |
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| faenil | thp, do you have a list of "recommended podcasts" or something? (hacking related possibly) I'm still outside of the podcasts world :) | 10:35 |
| coderus | sent mail. will let you know :) | 10:36 |
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| faenil | good :) | 10:37 |
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| MSameer | coderus: now you know why I have my own camera library :p | 10:48 |
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| faenil | MSameer, btw, is it published anywhere? do you have a camera app as well? | 11:00 |
| MSameer | faenil: yes and no and yes | 11:01 |
| MSameer | faenil: the library is FOSS and the camera app too | 11:01 |
| faenil | let me sum up, I want to install and try it :P | 11:01 |
| MSameer | faenil: and it works. just a bunch of issues to solve | 11:01 |
| MSameer | faenil: there is however a binary only gstreamer plugin which is needed as I have not yet opened it up | 11:02 |
| MSameer | faenil: I can give you more details if you feel brave enough | 11:02 |
| faenil | why not | 11:02 |
| faenil | no time to look at the source anyway atm | 11:03 |
| MSameer | faenil: can we postpone it till the evening then? need to go out with the family in a few moments :) | 11:03 |
| faenil | sure, have fun! ;) | 11:03 |
| * MSameer thinks it's too sunny outside :S | 11:03 | |
| MSameer | faenil: thanks | 11:03 |
| faenil | cloudy here :/ | 11:03 |
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| stephg | raining here! | 11:07 |
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| faenil | UK? | 11:08 |
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| stephg | yup | 11:09 |
| faenil | easy to guess, eheh | 11:10 |
| stephg | hehe | 11:10 |
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| stephg | before I had to do DIY on the house as it's the weekend | 11:22 |
| stephg | trying to build mervncserver | 11:22 |
| stephg | it depends on libvncserver which I've built and have installed in the sdk vm | 11:23 |
| stephg | as I try to build mervncserver now pkgconfig is complaining that libvncserver isn't there | 11:23 |
| stephg | 'No provider of 'pkgconfig(libvncserver)' found', it is, it's -devel is too and it's plonked libvncserver.pc files in /usr/lib/pkgconfig | 11:24 |
| stephg | so I'm scratching my head :( | 11:24 |
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| stephg | I'm presuming this is a success rather than a failure: http://pastie.org/9205853 | 11:26 |
| vgrade_ | stephg: are you using OBS | 11:26 |
| stephg | no this is by hand in the mersdk | 11:27 |
| vgrade_ | ah, ok, I'm more familiar with OBS and local OBS building. | 11:27 |
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| stephg | so I have another failure (which I'll get to once I've fixed this but on that one pkg-config exits '1' for the missing build dep | 11:28 |
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| faenil | stephg, let me know how you fix it :) | 11:36 |
| vgrade_ | stephg: what are you using sb2, mb2? | 11:37 |
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| stephg | mb2 | 11:40 |
| stephg | I think it may be something funky in the first package | 11:40 |
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| vgrade_ | https://build.merproject.org/package/files?package=libvncserver&project=kde%3Adevel%3Aux | 11:41 |
| vgrade_ | is lib vnc package on OBS | 11:41 |
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| vgrade_ | stephg: did you install the lib package in the sb2/mb2 target/ | 11:44 |
| vgrade_ | ? | 11:44 |
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| stephg | the -devel you mean? yeah | 11:45 |
| stephg | well both | 11:45 |
| faenil | tried "sb2 -t targetName pkg-config --debug libvncserver" ? | 11:48 |
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| faenil | Andy80, o/ | 11:50 |
| vgrade_ | stephg: did you install the devel pacakge to the sdk or into the sb2 target? | 11:50 |
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| stephg | mb2/sb2 themselves don't build in a chroot do they? | 12:02 |
| stephg | if so that'd be what's wrong | 12:02 |
| stephg | anyway I've been summoned to paint | 12:02 |
| stephg | catch you all laters | 12:02 |
| vgrade_ | stephg: yes, think so | 12:02 |
| faenil | I think they do | 12:02 |
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| stephg | holy abstraction batman ;) | 12:02 |
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| vgrade_ | stephg: inception | 12:03 |
| faenil | xD | 12:03 |
| stephg | hehe | 12:03 |
| vgrade_ | still raining here so gardening has been cancelled \o/ | 12:03 |
| vgrade_ | sb2 -t <target> -R zypper install *-devel | 12:04 |
| faenil | vgrade_, lucky :p | 12:05 |
| vgrade_ | faenil: yea, I'm sure Janice will find me something else to do soonish | 12:06 |
| faenil | eheh | 12:06 |
| Andy80 | faenil: yo! | 12:19 |
| Stskeeps | o/ | 12:19 |
| Andy80 | good afternoon :) | 12:19 |
| faenil | Andy80, yo dogh :P | 12:19 |
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| JvD_ | what mb2 stands for? sb i know | 12:36 |
| Stskeeps | well, story comes from that we worked at a qtcs on how to do fast builds of qt based applications/easier workflow | 12:37 |
| Stskeeps | as building rpms each damn time is just painful.. | 12:37 |
| Stskeeps | original tool is called 'mb' and i'm not sure why, but mer or meego build? :P | 12:38 |
| Stskeeps | mb2 is version 2.0 | 12:38 |
| JvD_ | ok.. my ques was mer for m =) | 12:38 |
| JvD_ | guess | 12:39 |
| JvD_ | now I have to but on my tizen shirt and go back outside chopping wood with chainsaw | 12:39 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 12:40 |
| Stskeeps | tizen tshirts are excellent, very soft.. excellent for burping your kid | 12:40 |
| Stskeeps | as i can't wear them outside | 12:40 |
| JvD_ | I use my mer project and jolla shirts on birthdays and weddings | 12:40 |
| JvD_ | =) | 12:41 |
| tbr | Tizen, because everybody needs an oil-change t-shirt! | 12:44 |
| tbr | also nice to mildly troll aard when visiting him | 12:44 |
| Stskeeps | i'm still traumatised over visting wroclaw and two german girls point-and-laughed at my tshirt.. | 12:44 |
| Stskeeps | +tizen | 12:45 |
| JvD_ | I didn't get much respect on linuxcon on askin questions about titzens from samsung and intel guys | 12:45 |
| tbr | Stskeeps: well, that's the german perspective for you... | 12:46 |
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| attah | Hmmm.. Is there a way to set currentIndex (of a ContextMenu) in a ComboBox from the inside? From the outside it works fine :/ | 13:14 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | attah: what do you mean ? | 13:15 |
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| attah | The contextmenu normally defaults to having selected the first item, right.. but this can be manipulated (in this case in a oncompleted method) from outside the object (ComboBox) | 13:17 |
| attah | I'd like to do the same from inside the combobox | 13:17 |
| mikko__ | Hello. I am trying to install this on my Jolla http://sourceforge.net/projects/commandlinecopypaste/ but cant build it, because it says "make g++ not found". Any help? | 13:17 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | hey mikko__ again | 13:18 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | how are you trying to build your app ? | 13:18 |
| mikko__ | or install ./configure -> make | 13:19 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | mikko__: where ? | 13:20 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | did you installed it onto your phone ? | 13:20 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | might not the best idea, better package it on a computer | 13:20 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | you can use sailfish sdk to do this | 13:20 |
| tbr | is building outside SDK better documented nowadays? | 13:20 |
| Stskeeps | wasn't there a wiki at some point? | 13:21 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | tbr: like ? | 13:21 |
| mikko__ | I need to install another linux then? I can only get .deb packages with Mint. | 13:21 |
| mikko__ | Or can you do it with sdk? | 13:21 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | mikko__: well, the SF SDK is contained inside a virtuablox | 13:21 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | you can ssh in it, and it gives you a cross-compilation environnement | 13:21 |
| tbr | Sfiet_Konstantin: as in where to put sources, how to ssh to build-vm, etc | 13:21 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | tbr: ah | 13:22 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | it's not outside of SDK then, it's just not using QtC | 13:22 |
| tbr | so far I've only seen scattered information. which is fine for me | 13:22 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | tbr: true | 13:22 |
| tbr | Sfiet_Konstantin: point taken, though for many users QtC _is_ the SDK | 13:23 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | tbr: ok | 13:23 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | indeed | 13:23 |
| tbr | quick! someone blog about it! | 13:23 |
| tbr | and if that blog isn't on planet yet, add it! | 13:23 |
| tbr | http://planet.devaamo.fi/sailfish/ - should advertize that more... | 13:24 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | tbr: right, will land it into sailfishdev.tumblr | 13:24 |
| * Stskeeps ponders if we should just redirect planet.sailfishos.org to there.. | 13:25 | |
| Stskeeps | iekku: ^ one for the ponderance | 13:25 |
| mikko__ | Any help how to compile .tar to .rpm with sdk? | 13:26 |
| Stskeeps | mikko__: sec | 13:26 |
| * Stskeeps scratches head | 13:29 | |
| Stskeeps | where did that page go.. | 13:29 |
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| Stskeeps | mikko__: this is surprisingily good: http://hardcodes.de/SailfishOS/Developing-with-SailfishOS.pdf | 13:30 |
| Stskeeps | (wow, fwiw) | 13:31 |
| faenil | sad to know that the author of that pdf is now quite angry at Jolla :/ (don't remember why) | 13:34 |
| coderus | MSameer: ping | 13:34 |
| Stskeeps | faenil: ah.. i think i can see | 13:34 |
| Stskeeps | :/ so it goes | 13:34 |
| Stskeeps | doesn't change the fact he did a good job. | 13:35 |
| faenil | indeed :) wonderful job | 13:35 |
| Stskeeps | the particular bug he got really upset about made me want to throw the phone against the wall, too | 13:36 |
| faenil | hehe | 13:36 |
| faenil | Stskeeps, that should be turned into the official guide (since there isn't any atm) | 13:37 |
| faenil | + | 13:37 |
| Stskeeps | well, it's NC so no-go | 13:37 |
| faenil | http://m.memegen.com/ed7prp.jpg | 13:37 |
| mikko__ | Would help if I would not be complete noob. I just want command line clipboard tool. :/ | 13:37 |
| faenil | Stskeeps, not even quoted on the website? | 13:38 |
| Stskeeps | faenil: would probably constitute commercial usage | 13:38 |
| Stskeeps | NC is a bit comple | 13:39 |
| Stskeeps | x | 13:39 |
| faenil | I see | 13:39 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | tbr: written :) | 13:40 |
| tbr | Sfiet_Konstantin: great! | 13:42 |
| tbr | Sfiet_Konstantin: and I wrote a mail to the dev ml. let's see if we get some more input for the plantes | 13:42 |
| matrixx | I'm a little bit confused where should I install my app's datafile (other than source) which I install as pre-installed data and then I should be able to read and update it | 13:42 |
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| matrixx | what's the correct path to give in in project files, and how to access it from code | 13:43 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | tbr: plantes ? | 13:43 |
| Stskeeps | wasn't this the libsailfishapp something-something location discussion? | 13:43 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | planet ? :) | 13:43 |
| tbr | matrixx: didn't harbour faq have some stuff on it? | 13:43 |
| tbr | Sfiet_Konstantin: planets | 13:43 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | matrixx: embed your data in qrc / installed files, and at first start check if data is here | 13:43 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | if not dump it into .local/share/ etc. | 13:44 |
| tbr | Stskeeps: I wasn't aware of a sailfish planet, hence why I started that one... | 13:44 |
| matrixx | Sfiet_Konstantin: I don't like working with qrc, for some reason qtcreator does not clean it properly and reads always very old version of the data | 13:44 |
| Stskeeps | tbr: yeah, i don't think we have one | 13:44 |
| Stskeeps | good initiative | 13:45 |
| tbr | the mer/nemo planets have been around a bit | 13:45 |
| * Stskeeps double cchecks that we don't have one.. | 13:45 | |
| matrixx | I've now been reading about $XDG_DATA_HOME, but I don | 13:45 |
| matrixx | 't get it | 13:45 |
| tbr | the sailfish planet only started picking up when I saw some blogs mentioned on IRC | 13:45 |
| * Stskeeps promotes it | 13:46 | |
| tbr | :) | 13:46 |
| matrixx | if I want to make the installation/reading/modifying of the file not transparent to the application, should I use $XDG_DATA_HOME for installation, and then which function I can use to access that dir? | 13:46 |
| attah | Why is it that default values for properties are set *after* Component.onCompleted on an enclosing object? | 13:47 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | matrixx: install plain files ? | 13:49 |
| matrixx | Sfiet_Konstantin: yes, xml | 13:49 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | matrixx: use qstandardpat | 13:49 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | qstandardpath | 13:49 |
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| attah | Like 666 here: property int value: currentItem ? currentItem.value : 666 | 13:49 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | QStandardPath::writableLocation(QStandardPaths::DataLocation) should do the trick | 13:49 |
| matrixx | Sfiet_Konstantin: thanks, that's what I was looking for :) | 13:50 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | matrixx: in your main, you can check if the file exists with QFile, and QFile::copy the one you isntalled if needed :) | 13:50 |
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| matrixx | Sfiet_Konstantin: yeah, this works perfectly to my case where I install one default xml and then update it from the internet later | 13:51 |
| matrixx | on some sort of a schedule app :) | 13:51 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | matrixx: ;) | 13:52 |
| mikko__ | Still no idea how to do this. :D Can someone build this for me http://sourceforge.net/projects/commandlinecopypaste/ I need it for some of my scripts on my Jolla. | 13:52 |
| Stskeeps | mikko__: ok, hang on.. | 13:52 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | mikko__: one sec | 13:52 |
| Stskeeps | ok, if Sfiet_Konstantin does it, it's better. :P | 13:52 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Stskeeps: lol | 13:52 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | that's not true at all ! | 13:52 |
| Stskeeps | ;) | 13:53 |
| mikko__ | If it even does the job to take stuff from clipboard to command line. It was only alternative that I could find for Xclip | 13:53 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | mikko__: http://sailfishdev.tumblr.com/post/86690217922/build-an-application-with-sailfish-sdk | 13:54 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | can you follow this a bit | 13:54 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and if you don't understand ping me ? :) | 13:54 |
| Stskeeps | just be aware that we might not factually have a so terribly standard clipboard, being a Wayland system | 13:54 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | mikko__: of course, if you want the "SDK", get it from sailfishos.org (as the topic of the channel states) :) | 13:55 |
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| mikko__ | So it might not work at all. :/ On N9 I had shortcuts that opened Video players and stuff from url that I just copied from web page. And I used it often.' | 13:56 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | Stskeeps: does the Qt implementation of clipboard works better ? | 13:56 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | because this might work more easily with some Qt API | 13:56 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | mikko__: do you mind writing some code | 13:57 |
| Stskeeps | Sfiet_Konstantin: probably | 13:57 |
| iekku | Stskeeps, could you ping me again when this damn heat has left finland and we are back in normal situation? my head is more than malfunctioning... | 13:58 |
| Stskeeps | iekku: badger overheat? | 13:58 |
| Stskeeps | but yes | 13:58 |
| mikko__ | I am not making application I am trying to find alternative for Xclip that works on sailfish. | 13:58 |
| iekku | Stskeeps, seriously | 13:58 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | mikko__: you should then study the code of xclip ? | 13:59 |
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| mikko__ | Xclip needs X11 | 14:00 |
| Stskeeps | mikko__: can you tell me roughly what xclip does? | 14:00 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | mikko__: ah something like xclip, but for SFOS | 14:00 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | sorry, didn't understand | 14:00 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Stskeeps: I guess, a clipboard grabber | 14:01 |
| mikko__ | copy thing to clipboard. Do echo xlclip and you get what you copied. | 14:01 |
| Stskeeps | ah | 14:01 |
| mikko__ | *echo xlip | 14:01 |
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| Stskeeps | sounds useful, wonder how easily we could remake that.. | 14:02 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | Stskeeps: right, because of you I'm tempted to do some experiments :(:) | 14:03 |
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| mikko__ | <Sfiet_Konstantin> I am sorry if I am taking too much of your time. :P | 14:14 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | mikko__: this is fun | 14:14 |
| Stskeeps | javispedro: have you by chance ever seen a device with bluetooth LE that had 4.1.2 before and gained it with 4.2.2 update? | 14:15 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Stskeeps and mikko__ in QClipboard front, I think that nothing works :( | 14:15 |
| Stskeeps | Sfiet_Konstantin: i'm fairly sure standard methods ought to work | 14:15 |
| Stskeeps | i might be wrong, but i'd think so | 14:16 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Stskeeps: checking qt source | 14:16 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and to see how it relates to qpa | 14:16 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I think I might did something wrong | 14:16 |
| Stskeeps | artemma: fwiw problem with ring might not necessarily be about priority; but about blocking dbus calls | 14:16 |
| Stskeeps | artemma: does the call counter increase? | 14:16 |
| Stskeeps | or just stuck | 14:16 |
| javispedro | Stskeeps: sorry, but I have nothing other than HP Touchpad | 14:18 |
| Stskeeps | javispedro: ok, i shall investigate myself then | 14:18 |
| Stskeeps | i really wonder if the bt le issue is a purely kernel problem | 14:18 |
| javispedro | from the linux side I believe not | 14:18 |
| javispedro | on the qualcomm side I have no idea | 14:18 |
| Stskeeps | as in; the lescan problem | 14:18 |
| Stskeeps | but there might be a deeper-laying coexistence problem | 14:19 |
| javispedro | virtually no linux code is involved in a lescan, specially in <3.5 kernels | 14:19 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 14:19 |
| javispedro | aiui in recent kernels they use the "management interface" for the scan which basically means the kernel handles everything | 14:20 |
| javispedro | but on previous it's just userspace talking HCI directly with the bt chipset | 14:20 |
| Stskeeps | hrm, nexus 4 is LE too isn't it.. | 14:20 |
| * Stskeeps looks | 14:20 | |
| Stskeeps | what's your opinion on bluedroid, if you have one, btw? | 14:20 |
| Stskeeps | ie, bluetooth as a HAL interface | 14:20 |
| Stskeeps | there's a kind of awkward situation that bluez 5 is practically useless on most out there devices and reference designs | 14:21 |
| javispedro | btw | 14:21 |
| javispedro | I might be able to make it to the next meeting, should we raise this topic there? | 14:22 |
| Stskeeps | sure, just add a topic and i'll try my best to get the right peopel there | 14:22 |
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| Stskeeps | and another point also being how emotionally attached people are to bluez api.. which i also understand has changed massively from bluez4 to bluez5 | 14:22 |
| tbr | Stskeeps: yes, nx4 has LE | 14:23 |
| Stskeeps | tbr: okiedokie | 14:23 |
| tbr | I wasn't very happy with android LE performance so far though | 14:24 |
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| tbr | the stack seems to crash unrecoverably, a LOT | 14:24 |
| tbr | → reboot | 14:24 |
| javispedro | for me bluedroid is basically an attempt to enable propietary bluetooth drivers and addons | 14:24 |
| tbr | as in sometimes only a reboot will fix it. sometimes also disabling all bluetooth and airplane mode will help | 14:25 |
| Stskeeps | probably true | 14:25 |
| javispedro | that's why I don't have much more opinion :) | 14:25 |
| Stskeeps | but at least the API is known | 14:25 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 14:25 |
| javispedro | (vs bluez which was moving stuff into the kernel making propietary drivers harder) | 14:25 |
| tbr | Stskeeps: s/bluedroid/ril/ and think about your statement. ;-þ | 14:25 |
| Stskeeps | tbr: yeah.. but sometimes it's just nice to fall back on knowing expected behaviour is documented | 14:26 |
| Stskeeps | not that there's not bugs like 'android does it this way, api says it's a bit more complicated to support, let's only support android's way'.. | 14:26 |
| tbr | is it? when I was talking to our ofono guys they weren't very kind about the RIL docs | 14:26 |
| Stskeeps | well | 14:26 |
| Stskeeps | ril docs are not very kind, agreed | 14:26 |
| tbr | I didn't expect bluedroid to be much better, by association | 14:27 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Stskeeps: http://code.woboq.org/qt5/qtwayland/src/client/qwaylandclipboard_p.h.html#QWaylandClipboard | 14:27 |
| tbr | mind you I haven't actually looked at that | 14:27 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | hum ... | 14:27 |
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| tbr | Sfiet_Konstantin: for clipboard you can look at fingerterm too, it uses it | 14:27 |
| Stskeeps | problem with bluez vs bluedroid is probably volume; 4.2.2 was the switchover | 14:27 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | tbr: ah, true | 14:27 |
| Stskeeps | that's a boatload of designs out ther | 14:27 |
| Stskeeps | e | 14:28 |
| Stskeeps | and there's no more hciattach easy read how it's done etc | 14:28 |
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| Stskeeps | i need to figure out how to get bluetooth going on n4.. | 14:29 |
| javispedro | but, what is the problematic part? | 14:29 |
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| tbr | Stskeeps: it came out before the switch, so there must be a bluez stack | 14:30 |
| Stskeeps | tbr: hmm | 14:30 |
| faenil | mikko__, Sfiet_Konstantin QClipboard seems to be working good here? https://github.com/nemomobile/fingerterm/blob/master/terminal.cpp#L1167 | 14:30 |
| Stskeeps | that's a valid point | 14:30 |
| tbr | or was it? | 14:30 |
| javispedro | I mean, is it on the hw support side? Or are we talking about user/developer-visible API? | 14:30 |
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| javispedro | (regarding bluez5) | 14:30 |
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| Stskeeps | well, from sailfishos perspective it is that our stack is fairly bluez tied; but, bluez validated setups no longer exists for a majority of hardware designs out there, | 14:30 |
| Stskeeps | due to the switchover to bluedroid | 14:31 |
| Stskeeps | which is a bit of a problem from spread and portability perspective | 14:31 |
| tbr | only intel and a select few cling to bluez | 14:31 |
| n1cky | Stskeeps: any progress on the nexus4 HAL as of late? or an eta on the next release? | 14:31 |
| tbr | I know! let's introduce an abstraction layer! *snerk* | 14:31 |
| Stskeeps | n1cky: we're following next release which i -think- somebody said early june about | 14:31 |
| Stskeeps | tbr: that's .. one option | 14:31 |
| * Stskeeps breaks down and cries | 14:31 | |
| Stskeeps | :P | 14:31 |
| n1cky | nice, that's exciting. | 14:32 |
| * tbr hugs Stskeeps | 14:32 | |
| javispedro | meh, I had even started writing a bluez4->bluez5 one. | 14:32 |
| Stskeeps | tbr: came with 4.2, it seems | 14:32 |
| tbr | :-/ | 14:33 |
| Stskeeps | it should be possible though | 14:33 |
| Stskeeps | ubuntu touch did it, afaik | 14:33 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: eactly | 14:33 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: I checked: theer is a qwaylandclipboard etc. | 14:34 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | so I wonder what's going wrong | 14:34 |
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| tbr | Stskeeps: yeah, QC must have had a working bluez stack, with the lead time and all that | 14:34 |
| faenil | so, you have a basic qclipboard example and it doesn't work? | 14:34 |
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| Stskeeps | tbr: true | 14:35 |
| javispedro | Stskeeps: so it basically certification you're talking about? as in, it's hard to find preexisting certified bluez5+qualcomm bt hardware? | 14:36 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: http://paste.kde.org/pfuziu3ob | 14:36 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | invoking with -g returns nothing | 14:36 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | invoking with -s "text" do nothing | 14:36 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I'm thinking if I need an event loop | 14:36 |
| Stskeeps | javispedro: certification practically needs to be re-run anyway from my understanding, but in terms of having something you can factually bring up with bluez5 | 14:36 |
| Stskeeps | ie, known good working configuration | 14:37 |
| Stskeeps | if you have to do things differently/figure out how to make it work, it's a huge pain | 14:37 |
| Stskeeps | being able to piggyback off a known working android HAL is tempting in that regard | 14:38 |
| javispedro | i think there's basically no way out of that | 14:38 |
| javispedro | if you use bluedroid you'd be the first doing it | 14:38 |
| faenil | Sfiet_Konstantin, don't know, it's needed in X11 for sure | 14:38 |
| javispedro | if you use bluez5 you'd be the first doing it too, either. | 14:38 |
| javispedro | so.. | 14:38 |
| Stskeeps | well, bluez4 wouldn't be easy either :P | 14:38 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: will try by invoking a gui | 14:38 |
| javispedro | but at least everyone uses bluez4 (last tiem I looked at ubuntu touch they'd used bluez4 too) | 14:38 |
| javispedro | tbh I thought it would be easier for jolla to switch to bluez5 since you're already using the ofono-connman-bluez triumvirate | 14:39 |
| faenil | Sfiet_Konstantin, why not just starting an event loop in that main | 14:39 |
| javispedro | s/jolla/mer | 14:40 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: will do this | 14:40 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | trying now | 14:41 |
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| faenil | Sfiet_Konstantin, since wayland is a protocol I'd defintely expect the clipboard to need an event loop since it will probably be about sending and receiving content of the clipboard | 14:42 |
| faenil | as messages of that protocol | 14:43 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: my guess too | 14:44 |
| Stskeeps | javispedro: being stuck on 3.4 is heaps of fun | 14:44 |
| javispedro | well. | 14:44 |
| javispedro | afaik, you don't really need to upgrade post 3.4 to switch to bluez5. | 14:44 |
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| javispedro | but it is an ugly situation specially with BLE | 14:44 |
| Stskeeps | a lot of backporting | 14:44 |
| javispedro | I'm assuming no backporting at all | 14:44 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: confirmed | 14:45 |
| * faenil wonders what will happen when the imaginary Jolla2 will ship (with kernel >3.4), how will sailors keep the Jolla1 up to date | 14:45 | |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | with event loop it works | 14:45 |
| faenil | Sfiet_Konstantin, cool :) | 14:45 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | mikko__: what do you want ? | 14:45 |
| javispedro | for example "private" BLE addresses is a feature that does requires >3.4 | 14:45 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | tell me exactly what is needed from you ? | 14:45 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | if I give you wlclip -g writes the clipboard to stdout, what do you think ? | 14:46 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and wlclip -s "some text" to set it | 14:46 |
| javispedro | ok, topic proposed: http://piratepad.net/SailfishOSSMeetings | 14:48 |
| mikko__ | Sfiet_Konstantin I want that if you copy URL from browser then do "echo 'clipboard' " In terminal or script you get that URL. | 14:49 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: right, so tried without gui, no clipboard | 14:50 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | now try with a hidden gui | 14:50 |
| faenil | what do you mean with GUI? | 14:50 |
| faenil | you just need a QEventLoop | 14:51 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: qquickview | 14:51 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: I'm using the system's event loop (aka qguiapp) | 14:51 |
| faenil | but there's no need, is there :) | 14:51 |
| faenil | no need for a ui | 14:51 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: my guess too | 14:51 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | maybe I'm just posting events too fast | 14:52 |
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| javispedro | Stskeeps: eitherway, I am reasonably sure switching to bluedroid or bluez5 will not fix the BLE scan thing =) | 14:55 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 14:56 |
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| faenil | was there any development about this btw? https://together.jolla.com/question/39495/security-risk-with-sqlite-db-in-jolla-passwords-in-plain-text-in-user-space/#post-id-39833 | 14:58 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: sending an event on app start (just after gui displayed) to try to get clipboard don't work | 14:58 |
| faenil | (not the post, the thread itself) | 14:58 |
| faenil | Sfiet_Konstantin, mm | 14:58 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | clicking on a button to post an event and it works :/ | 14:58 |
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| javispedro | lol, sudo in mer-tools is built with fortunes support | 15:07 |
| javispedro | "This mission is too important for me to allow you to jeopardize it." | 15:07 |
| Yaniel | what :D | 15:08 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | right, I give up with clipboard thing faenil mikko__: you need to show the window to have access to clipboard | 15:11 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and this is too bad :( | 15:11 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | before, it do not respond | 15:11 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and if your device is turned off and you are using cli, it don't work either | 15:11 |
| faenil | we should ask giucam or sletta | 15:11 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | true | 15:12 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | but I'm tired | 15:12 |
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| javispedro | Sfiet_Konstantin: what if you wait a second or so | 15:12 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | javispedro: I tried | 15:13 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I delayed my event a lot | 15:13 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | but with the same code | 15:13 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | screen turned off, invoking it gives nothign | 15:13 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | screen on, (lockscreen) -> still nothing | 15:13 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | screen on, multitask screen -> the app shows up and it returns something | 15:13 |
| mikko__ | I dont mind if it shows windows for few secs when I use it. | 15:14 |
| mikko__ | *window | 15:14 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | mikko__: not elegant :( | 15:15 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | mikko__: please ping me later then | 15:15 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | need to grab some food | 15:15 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and maybe do something else | 15:16 |
| mikko__ | Still more user friendly than open new application, navigate to URL bar, paste link and click open | 15:16 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | mikko__: you will need screen turned on and not locked | 15:17 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :/ | 15:17 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | mikko__: anyway | 15:18 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | /me go rest | 15:18 |
| mikko__ | I usually have screen turned on when I click application on phone :P | 15:18 |
| mikko__ | I dont want keep you up | 15:19 |
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| javispedro | faenil: if the signon.db thing scares you, just chown it to privileged:privileged | 15:21 |
| faenil | javispedro, it wouldn't scare you? | 15:22 |
| javispedro | in fact, it was like that on my jolla at some point, but I just checked on mine (which had the latest version flashed on firmware) and it's nemo:nemo | 15:22 |
| faenil | it's nemo:nemo atm iiuc | 15:22 |
| javispedro | faenil: it doesn't scare me because it's exactly the same level of security in all my boxes :) | 15:23 |
| javispedro | including Windows boxes.. | 15:23 |
| faenil | any app can get your passwords without asking? seriously? | 15:23 |
| tbr | planet is growing :) | 15:23 |
| javispedro | e.g. google "recover wifi passwords windows" | 15:23 |
| faenil | javispedro, that's different | 15:24 |
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| javispedro | faenil: I'm not talking about remote password bruteforces | 15:24 |
| faenil | javispedro, so, tell me you won't change it to priviledged:priviledged now ;) | 15:24 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | tbr: :) | 15:25 |
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| javispedro | faenil: I actually did just to check whether it still worked =) | 15:25 |
| javispedro | faenil: and yes, it seems to work =) | 15:25 |
| javispedro | faenil: you also need to chmod 0660 though | 15:25 |
| javispedro | er | 15:26 |
| javispedro | ignore that | 15:26 |
| javispedro | it does not work | 15:26 |
| javispedro | so either I dreamt it was set to :privileged at some point or it's a regression =) | 15:26 |
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| faenil | javispedro, so you feel completely fine with that being set to nemo:nemo I seem to understand :) | 15:27 |
| javispedro | faenil: it's been the same for any non-aegis maemo device so far. | 15:28 |
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| faenil | javispedro, I don't care about that, tell me you're fine and feel safe installing apps :) | 15:28 |
| javispedro | and for most auto-login linux desktops | 15:29 |
| javispedro | no, I don't feel fine installing random apps | 15:29 |
| faenil | ok, cool | 15:29 |
| faenil | because that's what 95% people do on their smartphones :p | 15:29 |
| faenil | and it's inevitable when there is not much choice, like in Jolla's case | 15:29 |
| javispedro | yeah, but 95% doesn't care when their addressbook gets uploaded to random server without a single confirmation dialog | 15:29 |
| javispedro | which is like, 99% of android apps do. | 15:29 |
| javispedro | (and is also allowed on the jolla btw) | 15:30 |
| javispedro | so yeah, I think I am not fine with installing random apps =) | 15:31 |
| javispedro | firefox allowing udp broadcasts from any random website without any single confirmation "since forever" with webrtc is another of those "WTF"s. | 15:32 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | javispedro: allowed from openrepos apps, not really from harbour | 15:32 |
| faenil | I don't deem my addressbook as important as my passwords, personally | 15:32 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | because it's harder to read addressbook without qtcontacts | 15:33 |
| javispedro | Sfiet_Konstantin: there seems to be a qtcontacts android address book API bridge | 15:33 |
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| faenil | yeah of course but they *will* be allowed in harbour as well in the future, hopefully | 15:33 |
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| javispedro | in any case, this should be attached to the "security framework" larger topic | 15:35 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: indeed | 15:35 |
| * javispedro ponders why no signond process on my jolla | 15:36 | |
| faenil | javispedro, I wanted an update, because if there wasn't any hotfix for this, it means jolla in some way believes it's not important enough | 15:36 |
| faenil | or maybe there's no hotfix because such change requires rewriting 90% of signond | 15:36 |
| faenil | or whatever :p | 15:36 |
| javispedro | that's what I was trying to investigate.. | 15:36 |
| javispedro | but why no signond process? | 15:36 |
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| javispedro | ah, it's started on demand by d-bus, not systemd | 15:41 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: option 2 :) | 15:43 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | or option 3: there is one dev for the whole signon stuff, and he got busy with other stuff, like contacts | 15:44 |
| javispedro | or it's just silently fixed on next upgrade and no one mentioned it | 15:45 |
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| javispedro | I hate journald. | 15:47 |
| faenil | Sfiet_Konstantin, option 3 means jolla doesn't think it's important, so it's not a new point | 15:50 |
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| attah | Sfiet_Konstantin: https://github.com/attah/calendar-patch | 16:25 |
| attah | and if you have time.. please do make a packaged patch for patchmanager | 16:26 |
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| attah | wrong channel xD | 16:27 |
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| matrixx | Sfiet_Konstantin: after all I think I need another location for my data after all, seems .local/share/MyDomain/MyApp/ dir is not writable | 16:34 |
| matrixx | -after all | 16:34 |
| matrixx | at least on emulator it always fails to open file with ReadWrite capabilities | 16:34 |
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| matrixx | hmm, though this seems to contradict the fact that I'm quering that location using the writableLocation method.. maybe it's a problem of the emulator | 16:39 |
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| mikkosssss | Hello. On N9 I had shortcut to skip 10min wait for security code to activate and instantly lock device when you leave it on table and etc. Is this possible on Sailfish? | 16:45 |
| mikkosssss | Heres code from script "dbus-send --system --type=method_call --dest=com.nokia.mce /com/nokia/mce/request com.nokia.mce.request.req_tklock_mode_change string:locked;dbus-send --system --type=method_call --print-reply --dest=com.nokia.devicelock /request com.nokia.devicelock.setState int32:1 int32:1" | 16:45 |
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| MSameer | coderus: pong | 16:55 |
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| coderus | MSameer: its about editing preset and enabling h264 recorder now | 16:56 |
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| MSameer | coderus: where is the question? | 16:59 |
| coderus | MSameer: i think i can just edit preset which Extensions utilizing | 16:59 |
| MSameer | ? | 16:59 |
| coderus | GstOMXMPEG4VideoEnc-omxmpeg4videoenc | 17:00 |
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| MSameer | I don't understand | 17:01 |
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| coderus | :D | 17:01 |
| coderus | which part? | 17:01 |
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| MSameer | where is the question? :S | 17:01 |
| coderus | aha | 17:01 |
| coderus | i edited target-bitrate in preset, but it didnt changed | 17:02 |
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| MSameer | did you restart the your camera? | 17:02 |
| coderus | sure :) | 17:02 |
| MSameer | are you sure the preset is being loaded? | 17:02 |
| coderus | well | 17:03 |
| coderus | camera not working if this preset not exists | 17:03 |
| coderus | this is the only i know | 17:03 |
| MSameer | how do you know that the preset bitrate did not work? | 17:03 |
| coderus | just file size didnt changed | 17:05 |
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| MSameer | this needs some debugging | 17:06 |
| MSameer | but perhaps the best bet is to email the same guy you emailed in the morning | 17:06 |
| MSameer | or email sailfishos devel list | 17:06 |
| coderus | i await his answer in monday because of weekend :) | 17:06 |
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| coderus | i just tried with quicktime codec for now | 17:10 |
| coderus | and whatsapp not accepting it | 17:11 |
| coderus | i thoought if you can try to help me enabling h264 encoder | 17:11 |
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| MSameer | coderus: problem is: I have not tested that part so I have to test it and see | 17:16 |
| MSameer | and I am not going to do that now :/ | 17:16 |
| MSameer | for various reasons | 17:17 |
| coderus | :) | 17:17 |
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| MSameer | coderus: so either email the guy or the mailing list. I am sorry but I can't help here | 17:29 |
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| coderus | already emailed as i said | 17:32 |
| coderus | just weekend, i'm awaiting for answer in the next week :) | 17:33 |
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| tortoisedoc | what is the difference between a shellsurface and a "normal" surface? (wayland surface)? | 19:06 |
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| javispedro | tortoisedoc: http://wayland.freedesktop.org/docs/html/protocol-spec-interface-wl_shell_surface.html | 19:07 |
| tortoisedoc | thanks javispedro | 19:07 |
| javispedro | you may think of "surface" as the generic base class and "shell surface" as a subclass that is ~ a "normal" window | 19:07 |
| tortoisedoc | I assume therefore the control of this "shell surface " is then delegated to the QWindow object= | 19:09 |
| tortoisedoc | ? | 19:09 |
| tortoisedoc | (which in turn is then exposed to qt declarative as well) | 19:09 |
| javispedro | I don't about the qt5 details, but I'd imagine so. | 19:12 |
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| tortoisedoc | wow | 19:25 |
| tortoisedoc | i love debugging on device via wlan | 19:25 |
| tortoisedoc | it sucked 4$$ on n9 | 19:25 |
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| MSameer | faenil: ready to try? ;) | 19:28 |
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| tortoisedoc | hnmm | 19:47 |
| tortoisedoc | is it me | 19:47 |
| tortoisedoc | or has there been a change in organizing sdk uploads? | 19:47 |
| tortoisedoc | i.e. now my files are deployed to /opt/sdk | 19:48 |
| tortoisedoc | instead of "normal" / | 19:48 |
| MSameer | jake9xx: ^^^ | 19:50 |
| MSameer | or kaltsi ^^^ | 19:50 |
| MSameer | tortoisedoc: I personally don't know but feel free to hunt for the 2 sailors I have just highlighted ;) | 19:51 |
| tortoisedoc | lol | 19:51 |
| tortoisedoc | thanks MSameer, it's always the same two ;) | 19:51 |
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| MSameer | but I assume you get answers? | 19:52 |
| tortoisedoc | yes, when I overcome my asking lazyness :) | 19:52 |
| tortoisedoc | usually they answer | 19:52 |
| MSameer | just account for the weekend please | 19:53 |
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| tortoisedoc | yes, in best delays | 19:57 |
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| Nc_ | strange question: is there a way to set a slider's value, without triggering onSliderValueChanged ? | 20:00 |
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| tortoisedoc | huh | 20:09 |
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| tortoisedoc | opacity set to 0 on-device results in a fully white window :/ | 20:09 |
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| tortoisedoc | is that known? | 20:11 |
| phdeswer | tortoisedoc: kind of sounds expected given my past experiences with that kind of things. | 20:12 |
| tortoisedoc | phdeswer : define expected? | 20:12 |
| tortoisedoc | yeah, confirmed. Simple window with opacity set to 0.0 in qml renders pure white | 20:13 |
| phdeswer | afaik that is how opacity works. | 20:13 |
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| tortoisedoc | phdeswer : opacity set to 0.0 -> window goes to white (maximum color values) is expected? | 20:15 |
| tortoisedoc | hmm | 20:16 |
| tortoisedoc | makese sense *if* default background color is white | 20:16 |
| MSameer | nop | 20:16 |
| MSameer | opacity 0 = transparent | 20:16 |
| MSameer | so if what you have underneath it is white then you get white | 20:16 |
| tortoisedoc | ok | 20:17 |
| tortoisedoc | assume I have nothing underneath | 20:17 |
| MSameer | then i don't know :D | 20:17 |
| MSameer | but why do you need to do that? | 20:18 |
| MSameer | are you trying to create a transparent window? | 20:18 |
| tortoisedoc | MSameer : yes | 20:18 |
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| tortoisedoc | have been partially successful with it | 20:19 |
| MSameer | i don't think that's the way | 20:20 |
| tortoisedoc | any suggestion is welcomed :) | 20:20 |
| MSameer | i guess it needs to happen via wayland | 20:20 |
| MSameer | but why are you trying to make a transparent window? | 20:20 |
| tortoisedoc | just experimenting :) | 20:20 |
| tortoisedoc | how can I make it happen via wayland? | 20:20 |
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| tortoisedoc | assuming it is possible at all, that is | 20:21 |
| tortoisedoc | i've been wondering on this issue for quite a while now :| | 20:22 |
| MSameer | i am not a wl expert | 20:22 |
| MSameer | but a quick search revealed that you need to pass buffers with an alpha value | 20:22 |
| tortoisedoc | hmm | 20:23 |
| tortoisedoc | pass buffers from where to where? | 20:23 |
| MSameer | an idea would be to render in the qt window background yourself | 20:23 |
| MSameer | i.e. draw the background via gl and set an alpha channel somehow | 20:23 |
| MSameer | let me dig more | 20:24 |
| tortoisedoc | ah I see | 20:24 |
| tortoisedoc | yes | 20:24 |
| tortoisedoc | is that doable? I mean, overriding window rendering? | 20:24 |
| tortoisedoc | that would be awesome | 20:24 |
| MSameer | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14009549/how-to-make-a-transparent-window-with-qt-quick-2-0 | 20:25 |
| MSameer | check the 2nd answer | 20:25 |
| MSameer | 1st answer | 20:25 |
| MSameer | viewer.setClearBeforeRendering(true); | 20:26 |
| MSameer | viewer.setColor(QColor(Qt::transparent)); | 20:26 |
| MSameer | i am not sure it will work but trying does not hurt | 20:26 |
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| MSameer | tortoisedoc: ^^^ | 20:27 |
| tortoisedoc | hmm | 20:27 |
| tortoisedoc | first of all thanks alot for the amazing support :) | 20:27 |
| tortoisedoc | second, I will try this right now | 20:27 |
| tortoisedoc | requires more wine first tho :) | 20:27 |
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| tortoisedoc | wow | 20:31 |
| tortoisedoc | this works | 20:31 |
| MSameer | i have my n950 connected now for development. otherwise I'd have tried it myself | 20:31 |
| MSameer | tortoisedoc: :) | 20:31 |
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| tortoisedoc | I assume the clearbeforerendering flushes the buffer to some color with alpha | 20:32 |
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| tortoisedoc | thanks MSameer! | 20:34 |
| MSameer | I am sure the docs have a blurb for clear before rendering | 20:34 |
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| MSameer | but I personally don't know | 20:34 |
| MSameer | tortoisedoc: my pleasure. enjoy :-) | 20:35 |
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| tortoisedoc | hm | 20:43 |
| tortoisedoc | interesting | 20:43 |
| tortoisedoc | following this example | 20:44 |
| tortoisedoc | https://qt-project.org/forums/viewthread/23995 | 20:44 |
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| tortoisedoc | calling setRenderableType gives alot of QOpenGL errors (shaders etc) | 20:44 |
| MSameer | mmm | 20:45 |
| MSameer | /system/bin/logcat (as root) as your friend | 20:46 |
| kaltsi | tortoisedoc: it's always been /opt/sdk for rsync deploy.. if you build and deploy an RPM then it gets installed to / | 20:47 |
| tortoisedoc | kaltsi: thanks! | 20:48 |
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| marxistvegan | hey folks, new Nokia N9 running sailfish here...some quirks I am trying to fix, anyone around? namely with the jolla store installs all stuck in "waiting" even after changing /etc/ssu/ssu.ini as instructed on wiki.maemo.org/sailfish | 23:09 |
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| faenil | MSameer, sorry I had to leave for the evening, I'll be available tomorrow late afternoon, hopefully :) | 23:12 |
| MSameer | no worries | 23:12 |
| MSameer | by that time perhaps I will have added zsl mode :p | 23:12 |
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| louisdk | marxistvegan, this might be late for European people. You could try in ~7 hours or more. | 23:24 |
| marxistvegan | louisdk: valid point | 23:24 |
| marxistvegan | ;) | 23:24 |
| * marxistvegan is in mexico city | 23:24 | |
| louisdk | marxistvegan, just saying. I would be boring to waste hours for an answer :) | 23:25 |
| marxistvegan | louisdk: it is more passive at this point I will hit up again in the morning | 23:26 |
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