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| dr_gogeta86 | good morning guys | 09:14 |
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| TheBootroo_work | ohai | 09:15 |
| TheBootroo_work | A nice app for tracking TV series watching status in Harbour QA | 09:15 |
| * TheBootroo_work doing some advertisement for my app | 09:15 | |
| TheBootroo_work | rush on it as soon as it's in store | 09:16 |
| TheBootroo_work | ---> Serie'me | 09:16 |
| dr_gogeta86 | tvrage ? | 09:17 |
| dr_gogeta86 | btw is not still avaiable | 09:17 |
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| squidd | TheBootroo_work: when will it be there | 09:22 |
| squidd | your advertisement worked | 09:22 |
| squidd | take my moneys noowwwww | 09:23 |
| TheBootroo_work | squidd: hehe, should be approved today | 09:23 |
| TheBootroo_work | (because my app is just perfect, can't be anything but approved ^^ ) | 09:24 |
| TheBootroo_work | \o/ | 09:24 |
| squidd | does it have nice ui | 09:24 |
| TheBootroo_work | squidd: VERY nice | 09:25 |
| TheBootroo_work | wanna see ? | 09:25 |
| TheBootroo_work | https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/harbour-image-upload/screenshots/5377693e1b37f5aa39000003/06c1ca70-ddcb-11e3-b762-f711834eed0e.png | 09:25 |
| TheBootroo_work | https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/harbour-image-upload/screenshots/5377693e1b37f5aa39000003/078bf840-ddcb-11e3-9fe4-d38a1e9afeae.png | 09:25 |
| TheBootroo_work | https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/harbour-image-upload/screenshots/5377693e1b37f5aa39000003/09cd83d0-ddcb-11e3-b762-f711834eed0e.png | 09:25 |
| TheBootroo_work | squidd: do you like it ?N | 09:27 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | TheBootroo_work, nice | 09:32 |
| TheBootroo_work | uses Trakt.tv API and artwork | 09:32 |
| TheBootroo_work | and it's almost a clone of the SeriesFinale app from N9/N900 | 09:32 |
| TheBootroo_work | but with Jolla nice ui | 09:32 |
| TheBootroo_work | and using QML of course | 09:32 |
| squidd | looks good | 09:33 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | an rpm ? | 09:33 |
| TheBootroo_work | dr_gogeta86: soon (TM) | 09:34 |
| TheBootroo_work | ;-) | 09:34 |
| TheBootroo_work | it's in QA on harbour so you'll get it very soon on your phones | 09:34 |
| TheBootroo_work | at least if there is someone @jolla working on QA today | 09:35 |
| walokra | hope so, as they didn't work on weekends as my app is still on queue :) | 09:36 |
| TheBootroo_work | walokra: yea, i pushed mine on saturday eve, so i hope it get reviewed todady | 09:37 |
| TheBootroo_work | *today | 09:37 |
| TheBootroo_work | dat waiting... | 09:37 |
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| * stephg sighs | 09:52 | |
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| kimmoli | TheBootroo_work: "(because my app is just perfect, can't be anything but approved ^^ )" These kind of predictions usually goes wrong :) | 10:03 |
| TheBootroo_work | kimmoli: not for me ;-), my apps are perfect, and if someone finds an issue in it, he is wrong | 10:03 |
| TheBootroo_work | XDDD | 10:03 |
| kaltsi_ | kimmoli: hey, was it you who tried to create your own wizard project, which would not have yaml, just spec? | 10:04 |
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| kimmoli | yes | 10:04 |
| kaltsi | what was the problem.. was it creating the project or only when building it? | 10:04 |
| kimmoli | CRLF | 10:05 |
| kaltsi | yep but in creating or building? | 10:05 |
| kaltsi | because I have a fix for the building part now | 10:05 |
| kimmoli | root cause is that sdk did force CRLF on windows platform even source .spec is LF | 10:05 |
| kimmoli | did/does | 10:06 |
| stephg | noob question: can someone tell me the difference between %qtc_qmake5 and %qmake in a spec file? | 10:06 |
| kaltsi | but were you able to create the project or not | 10:06 |
| kimmoli | i was able to create the project | 10:06 |
| kaltsi | stephg: use %qtc_qmake5 if you want to build it | 10:06 |
| stephg | (Jolla package the latter in the TOH dev kit but builds fail) | 10:07 |
| stephg | s/package/use it as the example in the template/ | 10:07 |
| kaltsi | the toh dev kit is "crap" and needs an update | 10:07 |
| stephg | hehe | 10:07 |
| kimmoli | it was actually the TOH ambience (devkit?) which i tried to make template of | 10:07 |
| kaltsi | kimmoli: ok .. I modified mb2 script so that it does CRLF -> LF for the spec file, so it should work in the future (next sdk) | 10:08 |
| kimmoli | kaltsi: my hero | 10:08 |
| kaltsi | stephg: if you turn off 'shadow building' for the TOH project, it might work | 10:08 |
| kaltsi | stephg: the qtc_qmake5 macro is needed for shadow building to work at least | 10:09 |
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| kimmoli | kaltsi: " in the future (next sdk)" >> unavoidable question - when? | 10:12 |
| kaltsi | kimmoli: soon after the next phone update :) | 10:13 |
| kimmoli | nods | 10:13 |
| kimmoli | i can't do anything else | 10:13 |
| kaltsi | meanwhile you could do it manually.. :P | 10:14 |
| kaltsi | login to mersdk and sed -i "s/\x0d$//" your-specfile.spec | 10:14 |
| kaltsi | or (if the 0D part is case-sensitive, can't remember) sed -i "s/\x0D$//" your-specfile.spec | 10:15 |
| kimmoli | i do unix2dos after creating the project before building and use .gitattributes to keep it that way. | 10:16 |
| kaltsi | or dos2unix maybe? | 10:16 |
| kimmoli | ah yes ofc | 10:16 |
| kaltsi | that sed basically does that | 10:16 |
| kimmoli | yes. i actullay tried to include that in wizard, and in other places too. | 10:18 |
| kimmoli | w/o luck | 10:18 |
| kaltsi | ok.. the mb2 script in build engine is where you could add it | 10:19 |
| stephg | kaltsi: thanks will have a play with that at home tonight | 10:19 |
| kimmoli | i don't create so many projects that i couldnät make this manually | 10:19 |
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| kimmoli | what other new things will be in next sdk update? | 10:43 |
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| kaltsi | kimmoli: just bug fixes, nothing big.. and the normal build env update | 11:02 |
| kimmoli_sailing | ok | 11:04 |
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| faenil | meanwhile, BB10 is moving to Android 4.3 runtime | 11:21 |
| SK_work | faenil: meanwhile, I'm eating a sandwich | 11:23 |
| SK_work | :P | 11:23 |
| faenil | not as cool, but makes sense :D | 11:23 |
| SK_work | :) | 11:26 |
| SK_work | sandwiches are cool though, especially when the bread is good | 11:27 |
| joonahoi | agreed | 11:28 |
| joonahoi | i'd much rather be eating sandwich than moving to android 4.3 runtime, just saying | 11:28 |
| stephg | sandwiches are cool, if they've been in the fridge | 11:30 |
| * stephg just sayin' | 11:30 | |
| Nicd- | sand, it's everywhere. get used to it | 11:30 |
| Nicd- | just sayin' | 11:30 |
| TemeV | I like my sandwiches warm | 11:30 |
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| faenil | xD | 11:32 |
| Mnsu | smoking hot actually | 11:38 |
| SK_work | mine slightly toasted | 11:39 |
| Mnsu | will be so baked after eating a good sandwich | 11:40 |
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| jmlich | Hi, I was testing an Android app of friend of mine. The log cat is full of Ardreno messages http://pastebin.com/66F9tW1U Is it normal? | 12:04 |
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| Nicd- | was it an app for looking at boobs? | 12:06 |
| Tumeez_ | Can anyone tell me where folder I do paste my old conversations? I speak MitäKuuluu conversations. | 12:06 |
| Nicd- | ask coderus | 12:06 |
| Tumeez_ | coderus can you tell me? | 12:07 |
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| coderus | Tumeez_: what you mean? | 12:13 |
| Tumeez_ | coderus my old chat messages is stored to sdcard. | 12:14 |
| Tumeez_ | what folder is my sdcard? | 12:15 |
| Tumeez_ | I don't remember :D | 12:15 |
| SK_work | Tumeez_: /media/sdcard/<something> ? | 12:16 |
| Tumeez_ | yea | 12:16 |
| Tumeez_ | And i backupped folders: | 12:17 |
| Tumeez_ | 12:17 | |
| Tumeez_ | and .whatsapp | 12:17 |
| Tumeez_ | Where folder i paste this .whatsapp filder which include old chat messages? | 12:18 |
| coderus | Tumeez_: restore .whatsapp/whatsapp.db | 12:18 |
| coderus | it should be enough | 12:18 |
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| Tumeez_ | Where I paste it? | 12:19 |
| coderus | /home/nemo | 12:19 |
| Tumeez_ | Ah okay | 12:19 |
| coderus | it should be /home/nemo/.whatsapp/whatsapp.db | 12:19 |
| coderus | if after first start your converstaions didnt imported remove .local/share/harbour-mitakuuluu2/harbour-mitakuuluu2/database.db and start app again | 12:20 |
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| Tumeez_ | I remove it, software not start | 12:24 |
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| coderus | you should wait until your database imported and app started. its long process and i cant give you any progress bar | 12:29 |
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| meek_geek | is there any news about sailfish os being ported to geeksphone ? | 12:54 |
| meek_geek | also sailfish's android launcher ? | 12:54 |
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| TheBootroo_work | any1 got app approved today ? | 12:56 |
| TheBootroo_work | mine is in QA since May 17 2014 8:20 PM, no change | 12:57 |
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| coderus | TheBootroo_work: 17 may is saturday ;) | 13:37 |
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| coderus | 18 is sunday | 13:38 |
| coderus | so your app approve started drom today or tomorrow ;) | 13:38 |
| coderus | from* | 13:38 |
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| Tumeez_ | Lol what | 13:48 |
| Tumeez_ | I write new message and send it | 13:48 |
| Tumeez_ | And go back to conversations and click again that conversation where i send a message | 13:49 |
| Tumeez_ | It's lost... o.O | 13:49 |
| Tumeez_ | I don't see it | 13:49 |
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| coderus | mystic :) | 14:03 |
| coderus | probably you touched database with root or anyhow break ownership | 14:03 |
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| Tumeez_ | coderus Can i fix it? | 14:37 |
| coderus | Tumeez_: should i know what happen with your phone, or its you? | 14:39 |
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| TheBootroo_work | coderus: actually, just go published ! | 15:07 |
| TheBootroo_work | squidd: time to rush on store ! hehe | 15:07 |
| squidd | ok, will do, ty | 15:07 |
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| Tumeez_ | coderus.. I try send message example "Hi" to "Aksel" | 15:11 |
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| stemid | I forgot the lock code... | 15:12 |
| Tumeez_ | Now I go back to my conversations and peoples and choise again "Aksel" conversation | 15:12 |
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| Tumeez_ | But I don't see my "Hi" message. | 15:12 |
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| coderus | Tumeez_: ls -la /home/nemo/.local/share/harbour-mitakuuluu2/harbour-mitakuuluu2/database.db | 15:17 |
| Tumeez_ | -rwxr-xr-x 1 nemo privileged 784384 May 19 15:44 /home/nemo/.local/share/harbour-mitakuuluu2/harbour-mitakuuluu2/database.db | 15:19 |
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| coderus | everything okay | 15:42 |
| coderus | just reboot your buggy phone | 15:42 |
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| stephg | ok next noob toh question: I have an ambience that builds, what secret sauce is needed in the %post to notify ambienced of its existence? | 15:48 |
| stephg | i.e. it installs but only appears in the list on a reboot | 15:48 |
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| coderus | stephg: i see nothing in jolla ambience pacages | 15:58 |
| coderus | packages* | 15:58 |
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| stephg | the dev kit you mean coderus? | 16:00 |
| stephg | I mean it might be as simple as sending sighup to ambienced but it's not written anywhere | 16:02 |
| stephg | I'm only idly asking, I shall have a proper poke when I get home | 16:02 |
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| coderus | stephg: i mean existing ambience packages | 16:15 |
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| stephg | ah | 16:19 |
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| stephg | something must go on with those though (unless the nfc ←→ download interaction does something) | 16:20 |
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| Dr_Cain | Uh, how do I restart the clipboard integration service ? | 16:30 |
| Dr_Cain | I'm not in the mood to reboot the whole phone | 16:31 |
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| stephg | Dr_Cain: how is it misbehaving? | 16:35 |
| Dr_Cain | It's pasting some old stuff into the android vm | 16:37 |
| Dr_Cain | Anyway I just rebooted | 16:37 |
| leszek | Dr_Cain: yeah I had this also and restarting maliit did not help. Hmm... must be some kind of bug | 16:38 |
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| Dr_Cain | hmm | 16:42 |
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| meek_geek | sailfish OS launcher in Android ? | 16:50 |
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| stephg | meek_geek: not yet | 16:55 |
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| tortoisedoc | jabbadabbadoo | 19:33 |
| tortoisedoc | is it update time? | 19:33 |
| stephg | #soon is → thattaway ;) | 19:33 |
| tortoisedoc | hattaway? | 19:34 |
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| tortoisedoc | crappy sdk installer did not succesfully remove vm's :/ | 19:36 |
| tortoisedoc | but luckily there is good old remove option ^^ | 19:36 |
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| tortoisedoc | 24 secs to go and ill try again | 19:39 |
| tortoisedoc | with a full install | 19:39 |
| tortoisedoc | https://together.jolla.com/question/43209/sdk-upgrade-fails-on-vboxmanagerexe-usage/ | 19:41 |
| tortoisedoc | all ur votes belonges to us | 19:41 |
| tortoisedoc | *ducks* | 19:42 |
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| Nightmare__ | did you start the updater from eclipse or for it self? | 19:44 |
| tortoisedoc | eclipse? | 19:45 |
| tortoisedoc | what is that sorcery? | 19:45 |
| Nightmare__ | sailfish ide | 19:45 |
| Stskeeps | .. we don't use eclipse | 19:45 |
| Nightmare__ | confused eclipse with qtcreataor | 19:46 |
| Stskeeps | phew, i thought we had moved to java for a moment.. :P | 19:46 |
| Nightmare__ | :d | 19:46 |
| tortoisedoc | lol | 19:46 |
| Nightmare__ | bed time :) | 19:46 |
| tortoisedoc | and that is a NONO | 19:46 |
| tortoisedoc | anyways, Nightmare__ yes first updater from ide | 19:47 |
| tortoisedoc | now going all way with total removal -> reinstall | 19:47 |
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| Nightmare__ | k, because someone was reporting a bug when runnung the updater not from the ide | 19:48 |
| tortoisedoc | og | 19:48 |
| tortoisedoc | *oh | 19:48 |
| tortoisedoc | no not my case | 19:48 |
| tortoisedoc | Stskeeps, what is the reason for install scripts not updating vm's? | 19:49 |
| tortoisedoc | or better, is there a particular reason for them not ot? | 19:49 |
| tortoisedoc | *to | 19:49 |
| Stskeeps | i don't know about sdk, sorry | 19:49 |
| tortoisedoc | aah true - sorry, forget | 19:50 |
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| Stskeeps | if possible to try it during the daytime tomorrow you might have more luck | 19:51 |
| Stskeeps | european | 19:51 |
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| tortoisedoc | "european" to whome ;) | 19:51 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 19:51 |
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| Nightmare__ | Stskeeps: do you ever sleep? :D | 19:52 |
| Loris_ | Hello everybody. I hope this question isnt asked too often, but it is quite hard to find some information about it: But where can I find information about the development process? Espacially for the camera on the nexus 4...this is an important feature for me to use sailfish | 19:52 |
| stephg | tortoisedoc: were there any VMs running at the time? | 19:52 |
| Stskeeps | Loris_: well, you certainly came to the right place - we've been focusing on getting basics going and stable | 19:52 |
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| Stskeeps | Loris_: so when the basic daily device things work, we embark to get for example camera going | 19:53 |
| Stskeeps | it's not the easiest piece of hardware to deal with | 19:53 |
| tortoisedoc | stephg : no | 19:53 |
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| Loris_ | yes i can imagine...so currently you are not working on it? | 19:53 |
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| Stskeeps | Loris_: we are, but it's going a bit slow.. there'll be more activity coming | 19:53 |
| Stskeeps | we're in the middle of switching to gstreamer 1.0 | 19:54 |
| Stskeeps | which impacts any new wokr | 19:54 |
| stephg | tortoisedoc: and that's an upgrade? or a fresh fresh install? | 19:54 |
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| tortoisedoc | stephg: upgrade | 19:54 |
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| tortoisedoc | now trying fresh install | 19:54 |
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| stephg | hm | 19:54 |
| stephg | upgrade from what to what | 19:54 |
| tortoisedoc | gstreamer 1.0 w00t | 19:54 |
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| tortoisedoc | nice | 19:54 |
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| tortoisedoc | alpha3 -> 4 | 19:54 |
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| stephg | iirc upgrades were iffy in support | 19:54 |
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| stephg | if supported at all | 19:55 |
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| tortoisedoc | yeah | 19:55 |
| stephg | i.e. 'createvm' ain't going to work unless it nuked the previous cleanly | 19:55 |
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| Loris_ | ah okay..interessting...and where can i download the current image? I only found some links to the image released on 17. April....But I read there are some newer images | 19:55 |
| tortoisedoc | virtualbox issues eh | 19:55 |
| Stskeeps | Loris_: we usually follow the sailfishos upgrades which come ~monthly | 19:55 |
| stephg | which is a kinda nuclear (versus atomic) upgrade ;) | 19:55 |
| Stskeeps | Loris_: which EA is it you found? | 19:55 |
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| tortoisedoc | stephg: indeed; would imagine scripts start / upgrade vm's rather than canning the whole files? | 19:56 |
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| stephg | at this stage, I'd expect the latter tbh :/ | 19:56 |
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| Loris_ | Stskeeps: only a link in the | 19:57 |
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| Loris_ | Stskeeps: only a link in thejollablog for early adopters | 19:57 |
| tortoisedoc | yeah, well, wasnt Aard responsible for sdk= | 19:57 |
| Stskeeps | Loris_: okay, can you give me the link? | 19:57 |
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| Stskeeps | tortoisedoc: nah, aard is ~= release management and architect of jolla sailfishos as sits on top of mer+nemo mw | 19:58 |
| tortoisedoc | :O wow sounds cool | 19:58 |
| Loris_ | Stskeeps: no real download page or something like this... Here is the link: http://www.thejollablog.com/early-adapters-sailfish-os-can-now-install-sailfish-os-nexus-4/ but there are many of this pages.. | 19:58 |
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| Loris_ | Stskeeps: or this one: http://www.jollausers.com/2014/03/sailfish-os-early-adopters-have-got-their-email-to-go-crazy/ | 19:58 |
| Stskeeps | hmm .. sec | 19:59 |
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| Stskeeps | i'm trying to get to xda-developers and not having a lot of luck :) | 20:01 |
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| * stephg makes toast, takes washing out of washing machine, but first this: | 20:02 | |
| stephg | http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/general/sailfish-os-progress-nexus-4-t2667622/post51974871#post51974871 | 20:02 |
| stephg | ^^ Loris_ | 20:03 |
| Stskeeps | yes, that one | 20:03 |
| Stskeeps | browser acting up here | 20:03 |
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| Loris_ | ill read this thanks | 20:04 |
| Loris_ | can I still register as early adopter to get the latest news? | 20:05 |
| tortoisedoc | stskeeps: trying to get sailfishos in there?= | 20:05 |
| Stskeeps | Loris_: of course, send sledges a mail | 20:05 |
| Stskeeps | tortoisedoc: to n4? | 20:06 |
| Stskeeps | tortoisedoc: yeah it runs quite nicely | 20:06 |
| tortoisedoc | Stskeeps : xda-developers | 20:06 |
| Stskeeps | tortoisedoc: it's already there, from what i understood | 20:06 |
| tortoisedoc | kewl | 20:06 |
| Stskeeps | Loris_: so beyond camera not working, what's keeping you from using it as a daily device? | 20:06 |
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| Loris_ | Stskeeps: to be honest: nothing... I didnt get any news, so i thought voice calles arent still working...it took me some time to see WIFI and Calls are actually working! | 20:08 |
| Stskeeps | Loris_: ah :) they do work, and they're going to be better in next release | 20:08 |
| Loris_ | Stskeeps; sounds cool! :) | 20:09 |
| Stskeeps | as in sane volume handling | 20:09 |
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| high-rez | Is that the latest version for the N4 ? | 20:15 |
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| high-rez | I can say that for me... The developmenty version watermark is one of the things that have kept me from using it more, that and the simple lack of applications without additional work. | 20:16 |
| sledges | high-rez: yes | 20:16 |
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| Stskeeps | :nod: store is upcoming | 20:17 |
| Stskeeps | and watermark will be gone | 20:17 |
| tortoisedoc | wow | 20:17 |
| tortoisedoc | installation succeeded :) | 20:17 |
| tortoisedoc | back to work | 20:17 |
| sledges | they hacked the nag screen away on xda ;) | 20:17 |
| high-rez | That said, for what its worth - I'm actually running on an LG Optimus G converted to Nexus 4 and it works fine ;-) | 20:17 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 20:17 |
| Stskeeps | 'converted to nexus 4'? | 20:18 |
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| high-rez | Yeah, basically replacing the bootloader, filesystem layout, etc etc to a N4. | 20:18 |
| Stskeeps | oh, interesting | 20:18 |
| high-rez | See here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2099784 | 20:18 |
| high-rez | Then one can put the AT&T radio back on the device and have LTE again. | 20:19 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 20:19 |
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| vgrade | high-rez: now that LGOG to N4 is a great hack | 20:59 |
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| high-rez | Yeah it works well. | 21:06 |
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| high-rez | I should probably try to replace my radio on the device and see what happens - but I'm guessing that sailfishos isn't going to support lte enbablement. | 21:06 |
| vgrade | lte is working (at least data) in N5 | 21:07 |
| high-rez | Is it ? | 21:07 |
| vgrade | use radio switcher from openrepos | 21:07 |
| high-rez | Aha | 21:07 |
| high-rez | How do you like it on your N5 ? | 21:07 |
| high-rez | I have an N5 for my personal phone. Might consider giving it a go on that device. | 21:07 |
| vgrade | its usable as a daily driver for me | 21:08 |
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| vgrade | having camera would be bonus | 21:09 |
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| high-rez | Sure would. | 21:09 |
| vgrade | but bit by bit | 21:09 |
| high-rez | Not a must for me. But taking calls and receiving text. | 21:09 |
| high-rez | Those are 100% required. Otherwise my wife gets supser pissed off ;-) | 21:09 |
| vgrade | those are good on N5 | 21:09 |
| vgrade | I know what you mean, you can;t really use the excuse "well I'm running a work in progress port" | 21:10 |
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| high-rez | Exactly. | 21:10 |
| high-rez | I did that enough times, and she started beating me with a book. | 21:11 |
| vgrade | it the LGOG exactly same hardware spec as N4 or ar there soc differences | 21:11 |
| high-rez | So it's just not an option. ;-) | 21:11 |
| high-rez | The differences are super minor. | 21:11 |
| high-rez | For example, hardware radio bands and antenna / amplifiers | 21:11 |
| Stskeeps | try making a phone while your wife is pregnant.. | 21:12 |
| high-rez | NFC chip | 21:12 |
| Stskeeps | been there, done that.. | 21:12 |
| high-rez | And of course... The volume up down buttons are swapped - for no particular reason. | 21:12 |
| vgrade | you wonder why they are not standard things like that | 21:13 |
| high-rez | I was building CM for the converted LGOG->Conversion patchjing things by hand. Those were the big differences. | 21:13 |
| high-rez | NFC is because google put the secure element in their hardware version to support NFC payments. | 21:13 |
| high-rez | Other than that, they're remarkably alike. Also, the LGOG has hardware (captive) buttons - atleast the US version does. | 21:14 |
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| high-rez | So a hack to liblights, etc to make those work. | 21:14 |
| vgrade | cool, are your repos on github | 21:14 |
| high-rez | No, I'm way too lazy. There were others who maintained CM for the converted device - and they have/had github repos. | 21:15 |
| high-rez | (Full disclosure: I only ever used it, I never distributed it ;-) | 21:15 |
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| high-rez | Stskeeps: I've been or unlucky enough to not have to experience the pregant wife with big deadlines problem ;-) But I can imagine how much it'd suck. | 21:16 |
| vgrade | well good job any way, nice to see | 21:16 |
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| high-rez | If we ever have a kid, I'll certainly be moving across the pond to europe so we can get some time off <g> | 21:17 |
| high-rez | :) | 21:17 |
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| Stskeeps | time .. off? | 21:23 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 21:23 |
| high-rez | It seems that in a lot of the northern european countries at least, there's really good benefits for those who have kids while working there. At least by comparison to the US. | 21:24 |
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| Stskeeps | yeah, true, - a mom has like a year of maternal leave plus some father leave too .. | 21:26 |
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| vgrade | high-rez: it has to be paid for though through taxes so its not always better | 21:32 |
| high-rez | Yeah, true. The taxes on income certainly give me cause to think... | 21:32 |
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| high-rez | Like everything in life it's tradeoffs. Like having a working camera or a new os on your phone. ;) | 21:34 |
| high-rez | But the taxes and super high cost of rent are tough :) | 21:34 |
| high-rez | Actually just put my sim in the lgog->n4->sfos device for the first time. Everything is working as I expected. Calls and text. mms seems broken, but that's it. | 21:38 |
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