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| meek_geek | hi | 06:07 |
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| coderus | hi hi | 07:13 |
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| meek_geek | what up coderus | 07:22 |
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| Price15x | hello? can someone help me with my nexus 4? | 07:28 |
| Price15x | I installed the early adopters build and I wanted to switch back to android but my power button is broken | 07:29 |
| Price15x | so I tried terminal but adb doesnt work | 07:29 |
| meek_geek | Price15x, hehe your hecked up | 07:30 |
| Price15x | yeah lol | 07:30 |
| meek_geek | Price15x, Doncha love Sailfish OS? stick to it man | 07:30 |
| Price15x | I just want to get into recovery mode or fastboot mode | 07:30 |
| Price15x | I love it but that watermark is annoying me | 07:31 |
| meegobit | If you have sailfish, use ssh | 07:31 |
| meek_geek | Price15x, it would go away in days | 07:31 |
| meek_geek | meegobit, What is the basic difference btw Android Boi and Sailfish MAN ? | 07:32 |
| meek_geek | Guys ask me a lot | 07:32 |
| meegobit | what do you mean by Boi and MAN | 07:32 |
| william_gen | meek_geek: <meek_geek> Price15x, it would go away in days REALLY? | 07:34 |
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| meek_geek | meegobit, Nothing what more can Sailfish OS do than a rooted Android CM edition ? | 07:38 |
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| william_gen | Price15x: watermark can be removed | 07:39 |
| Price15x | @william_gen how? | 07:39 |
| Price15x | btw I am an IRC noob usually use G+ or twitter | 07:40 |
| william_gen | reinstall a package,maybe jolla-sliptik or so | 07:40 |
| Price15x | reintsall? are you sure? | 07:41 |
| meegobit | Sailfish is real Linux, with all the tools you'd recognize from a desktop, Android is not, it's a totally custom, crippled version of Linux with "special" drivers, that block you from updating or porting your kernel, plus everything happens on top of a java virtual machine, needing to reinvent the wheel for EVERYTHING, which makes it buggy, bad on resources usage, etc.. | 07:41 |
| william_gen | Price15x: do a upgrade of lipstick | 07:41 |
| william_gen | zypper up llipstick-jolla-home-qt5 | 07:42 |
| william_gen | zypper up llipstick-jolla-home-qt5-components | 07:42 |
| Price15x | cool will try now | 07:42 |
| locusf | lbt: oops | 07:43 |
| Price15x | william_gen: how do I get root privileges I typed su but its asking for password | 07:46 |
| william_gen | Price15x: in 'settings'->'developer',you can set password.then in terminal,type 'devel-su'.username is nemo | 07:48 |
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| Price15x | william_gen: didnt work, 'not found in package name' | 07:59 |
| william_gen | typo,'llipstick' should be 'lipstick' | 08:00 |
| Price15x | lol will try again | 08:01 |
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| Price15x | william_gen: should I do a restart? | 08:06 |
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| william_gen | Price15x: yes | 08:07 |
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| Price15x | william_gen: I love you man | 08:10 |
| william_gen | :0 | 08:10 |
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| Price15x | william_gen: thanks man now I can show off to my friends and freak them out | 08:11 |
| william_gen | welcome | 08:12 |
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| meek_geek | meegobit, so I can install everything that could be installed on a linux | 08:39 |
| meegobit | If you compile it to armv7hl, and have all the dependencies installed, you bet | 08:40 |
| meek_geek | meegobit, what pkg manager does it use ? Cuz debian has all the arm7 packages | 08:41 |
| tbr | meek_geek: it uses pkcon and RPM packages | 08:42 |
| meegobit | you can use zypper | 08:42 |
| tbr | zypper is discouraged | 08:42 |
| meek_geek | tbr, RPM packages would work out of the box ? from Fedora for arm ? | 08:42 |
| tbr | meek_geek: no they won't as it is not a fedora-phone | 08:42 |
| tbr | that said it should not be too hard to rebuild such packages | 08:43 |
| meek_geek | So I want to ask how is it full linux then ? | 08:43 |
| meegobit | tbr: I don't know pkcon very well, altough it's what I use, being default, Why is zypper discouraged, and do you know of a good pkcon tutorial | 08:43 |
| tbr | meek_geek: it runs a linux kernel. that's as full as it gets. | 08:43 |
| tbr | meek_geek: because zypper might possibly do things differently than pkcon and jolla only tests with pkcon | 08:43 |
| Waitee | gnu/linux* :3 | 08:43 |
| meek_geek | tbr, but sir I want to know how can we call it full linux distro when it cannot be used to install standard packages | 08:44 |
| meegobit | meek_geek: lol, Linux is not measured by it's ability to install unmodified fedora rpms | 08:44 |
| tbr | meek_geek: you are talking out of the wazoo | 08:44 |
| meek_geek | but still we get the packages for it only from Jolla right ? | 08:44 |
| tbr | no | 08:44 |
| tbr | you can build your own packages easily | 08:44 |
| meek_geek | we are not at liberty to install nothing like i can on my Xubuntu or Debian | 08:44 |
| meek_geek | tbr, oh how sir ? | 08:44 |
| tbr | using pkcon | 08:45 |
| meek_geek | From the source code ? can it build and make ? | 08:45 |
| meek_geek | tbr, Does it have a terminal ? | 08:45 |
| tbr | you're still talking right out of the wazoo | 08:45 |
| tbr | yes | 08:45 |
| tbr | I'd suggest to download the SDK and try out the emulator | 08:45 |
| meek_geek | why is everythign out of the way ? | 08:45 |
| Waitee | meek_geek: you surely havent done your homework | 08:45 |
| meek_geek | Waitee, I thought it was like Debian for Arm7 | 08:45 |
| meegobit | meek_geek: you're not making any sense | 08:45 |
| meek_geek | or Fedorm for arm7 | 08:45 |
| meegobit | meek_geek: it is just like any other distro | 08:46 |
| tbr | it is _a_ linux distro. one with a GNU and glibc userspace. | 08:47 |
| tbr | it uses RPM packaging, which does NOT mean that /any/ RPM package will work with it. You need to build RPM packages _for_ it, which nobody stops you from. | 08:48 |
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| meegobit | tbr: do you know of any good pkcon tutorial? I mean the documentation is so bleak: http://linux.die.net/man/1/pkcon | 08:51 |
| Nightmare__ | http://www.freedesktop.org/software/PackageKit/pk-using.html | 08:52 |
| meegobit | Nightmare__: I've seen that one, it's linked in the manpage, also very bleak | 08:53 |
| meegobit | I think that's the reason many people revert to zypper - good documentation | 08:53 |
| meegobit | Reading through the faq, I guess it's not just the documentation, it's the actual software that's pretty featureless :P | 08:56 |
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| nodevel | hey. can anyone help me with org.nemomobile.dbus QML plugin? I couldn't find any documentation... | 09:10 |
| nodevel | I succesfully changed profiles with profiled and its 'set_profile' method, but I can't figure out how to use 'get_profile' to return the current profile. the usual 'call' does not return anything. | 09:11 |
| nodevel | in the command line, I would add the '--print-reply' option, but I have no idea how to do this in the plugin | 09:12 |
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| nodevel | ok, I figured it out myself... anyone knows how to set volume/ringing_volume via dbus on Jolla? | 10:00 |
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| locusf | lbt: yeah it worked now | 10:30 |
| lbt | cool | 10:30 |
| lbt | you can 'pin' known good images | 10:31 |
| lbt | I'll see if I can find a way to somehow link them to more symbolic names | 10:31 |
| lbt | like named releases | 10:31 |
| locusf | yeah that'd be nice | 10:32 |
| locusf | 138 packages seems like a lot less than I have ever seen installed on a n950 image | 10:33 |
| locusf | I'll try without lipstick-glacier-home-qt5, I think the pattern needs to be alone instead | 10:37 |
| locusf | Error <creator>: Failed to build transaction : Success - empty transaction | 10:37 |
| locusf | wtf is that | 10:37 |
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| lbt | I wonder if the patterns are missing | 10:41 |
| lbt | jolla patterns are done in a rather convoluted way - it's done as 'everything is an rpm' ... but that means that BOSS needs to do special things to publish patterns - and I've seen pattern publish failures in the community one | 10:43 |
| locusf | oh | 10:43 |
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| locusf | lbt: anything I could do about it? | 10:56 |
| locusf | I could try to expand the pattern in to packages | 10:59 |
| lbt | that should work | 11:03 |
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| vgrade | locusf: lbt I think I've seen similar with IMG. was pkg-mgr=zypp / yum related I recall | 11:54 |
| vgrade | IMG does not allow you to specify yum or zypp | 11:54 |
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| Sviox | Hi. I'm trying to use MNotification with Sailfish. How do I start using it? 1. What do I need to link against 2. Can I still use #include <MNotification> as in Harmattan and 3. Where should the custom conf file be located (was /usr/share/meegotouch/notifications/eventtypes in Harmattan)? | 12:35 |
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| locusf | vgrade: oh ok | 12:50 |
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| alexxy | hi all | 15:26 |
| alexxy | is tohd service still drains battery on recent sailfishos versions on jolla phone? | 15:27 |
| Eztran | Shouldn't do, was fixed in 1.0.3.8 IIRC? | 15:28 |
| RoKenn | my memory also says 1.0.38 | 15:29 |
| RoKenn | that was when my battery life jumped from 22 hours to 5-6 days... | 15:29 |
| alexxy | ok | 15:30 |
| Eztran | Nice :) | 15:30 |
| alexxy | just asking | 15:30 |
| alexxy | i get jolla phone few days ago | 15:30 |
| alexxy | to replace my old n900 | 15:31 |
| TMavica | any virtual keyboard developer here? | 15:31 |
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| RoKenn | alexxy: if you didn't do it yet I would recommend to first do the OS upgrades to 1.0.5.16 before installing apps | 15:42 |
| alexxy | RoKenn: already did | 15:44 |
| alexxy | it was first thing that i did | 15:44 |
| alexxy | current version is 1.0.5.19 | 15:44 |
| alexxy | =) | 15:44 |
| alexxy | at least about reports this version | 15:44 |
| alexxy | btw is thare a way to use NFC to read some other nfc or rfid marks then on ToH? | 15:45 |
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| alexxy | btw are there some jabber client | 15:55 |
| alexxy | with muc conference support? | 15:55 |
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| Eztran | Jabber's built-in (mainly). No MUC support yet though, IIRC. There's probably an Android client somewhere that'll do that for now? | 16:00 |
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| coderus | Eztran: i'm just using google hangouts | 16:39 |
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| Acce | hmm.. I want to have a pulley menu in a SilicaFlickable, but the width of the content is wider than the page width. Is there any way to set the boundsBehavior so that the pulley menu still works, but the bounds don't overshoot when dragging horizontally? | 17:15 |
| fenix_fx | Acce, developing app? :) | 17:16 |
| Acce | fenix_fx: yeah, working on improvements to ShellEx | 17:17 |
| fenix_fx | Acce, ShellEx? What is it? | 17:17 |
| TMavica | stskeep here? | 17:19 |
| Acce | fenix_fx: just a small app which allows you to start/stop, show output etc. for shell commands from a gui | 17:19 |
| Venemo_j | TMavica: you mean Stskeeps? | 17:20 |
| fenix_fx | Acce, small step for debug comfort? :) | 17:20 |
| Acce | fenix_fx: yeah, should help with that too, if you have sudo installed.. for now the app doesn't have any implicit way to elevate privileges | 17:21 |
| TMavica | yesyes.. | 17:21 |
| TMavica | stskeeps | 17:21 |
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| TMavica | who is expert in making virtual keyboard? | 17:22 |
| Acce | you can still cat some files, but journalctl/strace etc require root to be much useful | 17:22 |
| fenix_fx | Can i ask about nexus 4 port? :) | 17:29 |
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| coderus | Acce: why content width higher page width? | 17:39 |
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| Stskeeps | fenix_fx: yes | 17:40 |
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| Acce | coderus: output from free / df etc. doesn't align nicely in portrait mode, and some users complained that text shouldn't be wrapped but flicked | 17:43 |
| Acce | (even though it's fine in landscape) | 17:44 |
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| fenix_fx | Stskeeps, oh, ok, ubuntu touch and sailfish is "real" linux right? Or sailfish more "real"? :) | 17:44 |
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| Stskeeps | fenix_fx: i think they're comparable. sailfish aims to be a mobile linux. ubuntu aims to be same OS on many different targets, including servers and desktops | 17:45 |
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| fenix_fx | Stskeeps, for what i'm asking, as i know in ubuntu touch camera works ~well. That fact can give me sureness of sailfish working camera in future, right? :) | 17:49 |
| Stskeeps | fenix_fx: hehe, well, the good news about reusing android hw adaptation is the fact that we know, that in some combination of magic, the camera actually works | 17:50 |
| coderus | Acce: hm, interesting, need to test it | 17:51 |
| coderus | but better choose will be using SplitView | 17:51 |
| Acce | coderus: I started to think about that too | 17:52 |
| Acce | but then I would need to think of some clever way to activate the split | 17:52 |
| Acce | since the text output is split into lines which can be clicked to copy them to clipboard | 17:52 |
| Acce | in the gallery and so on the click to open feels quite intuitive.. but activating some copy mode or something feels like an unnecessary step | 17:54 |
| fenix_fx | Stskeeps, wow, at this time you can dance jaga-jaga and on your newest internal build camera will works? :) | 17:54 |
| Stskeeps | fenix_fx: we're looking at it; we want to get basics working first | 17:54 |
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| Acce | hmm.. or maybe it wouldn't be too much, having a copy mode textswitch when the split is activated.. | 17:56 |
| fenix_fx | Stskeeps, in "basics" what do you mean? ...I see my page monitor detect changed content on libhybris wiki page ... :) | 17:56 |
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| Stskeeps | fenix_fx: as in, making sure store works, sensors, etc | 17:57 |
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| fenix_fx | :( It's nexus 5 now can into wlan, my congratulations nexus 5 owners :) | 17:58 |
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| vgrade | fenix_fx: dancing jaga-jaga here about wlan | 17:59 |
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| fenix_fx | Stskeeps, as i see sensors in "HAL" working state, it's superposition? :) Shredinger sensors %) | 18:03 |
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| Stskeeps | HAL means that it works in android side | 18:04 |
| fenix_fx | vgrade, sounds funny :) | 18:05 |
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| fenix_fx | Stskeeps, you mean if we use sensors modules from sailfish kernel - they likely work in android? | 18:09 |
| Stskeeps | no, remember that we base on an android hw adaptation | 18:10 |
| Stskeeps | so if they work there, we can wire them up to sailfishos | 18:10 |
| Stskeeps | brb | 18:10 |
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| fenix_fx | Stskeeps, you are getting basics, many users tell what they calls too quiet, you know how fix that issue and next buld it will be fixed? :) What sailfish os uses for audio processing? It's not alsa? | 18:34 |
| Stskeeps | fenix_fx: hehe, i've seen people talk about that it might be too loud, too .. | 18:35 |
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| meegobit | I've been hearing about the nexus-5 port, I wonder what's the status of the nexus-4 and nexus-7, does anybody know? | 18:40 |
| fenix_fx | Stskeeps, oh, not stable on different cell operators maybe :) But, we can configure audio i/o? :) | 18:40 |
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| cos- | piece of paper under battery to prevent bsod's: busted | 20:21 |
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| cos- | oh i just got the issue again | 20:25 |
| cos- | ssh: connect to host 192.168.1.43 port 22: No route to host | 20:25 |
| stephg | good evening everyone | 20:26 |
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| cos- | chriadam|away: looks like fb calendar sync is still broken https://together.jolla.com/question/3266/bug-facebook-calendar-sync/ | 20:35 |
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| Guest91125 | How can I use my Jollas i2c port in my code? | 22:30 |
| Guest91125 | Can it be used in qml? | 22:31 |
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| Raim | Guest91125: check the i2ctool by kimmoli, it includes some code for that. http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=92329 | 22:34 |
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