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| manqeloque | lpotter, what's the Right way to build/install new connman? can i do it with mer sdk (vbox image that comes with sailfish sdk)? | 01:39 |
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| lpotter | never tried it with application sdk | 05:17 |
| lpotter | if you use vanilla connman you won't like the experience on sailfish | 05:19 |
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| jussi | morning all | 05:27 |
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| jusa_ | morning | 05:33 |
| laehtis | mornin'! | 05:35 |
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| jusa_ | coderus: pong | 06:43 |
| jusa_ | coderus: if you didn't find out how the profile thingie happens, I can explain shortly | 06:45 |
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| coderus | jusa_: i'd like to know if i can store my own field in profiled config to use it in ngfd | 07:11 |
| coderus | Stskeeps: i have a problem, probably: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7320350/ | 07:11 |
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| coderus | this messages filling my journal | 07:12 |
| coderus | jusa_: manually edited .profiled/custom.ini seems breaked everything :D | 07:13 |
| coderus | jusa_: now i can use only sound.filename with custom path | 07:13 |
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| coderus | ah, profiled config broken because it should be 4096 bytes always, okay | 07:22 |
| coderus | but ngfd still cant load custom fields from profiled config | 07:22 |
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| jusa_ | coderus: sorry, was afk for a while.. | 07:32 |
| jusa_ | coderus: I'll have to check a bit but if I remember correctly you'll need to have profile key extensions in /etc/profiled | 07:34 |
| jusa_ | actually the profiled guru is spiiroin ^ | 07:35 |
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| jusa_ | coderus: yes, to add something to profiled -> http://pastebin.com/vbcFsPag | 07:42 |
| jusa_ | fallback means "general profile", default value for the keys etc. if nothing is defined for a profile (look for example [ambience] in 50.jolla_default.ini), then that value for keys for that profile are taken from [fallback] | 07:43 |
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| jusa_ | after there are new values in profiled, ngfd sees them as context values, like profile.current.my.custom.enabled (for active profile), profile.ambience.my.custom.enabled , profile.general.my.custom.enabled , etc | 07:47 |
| SK_work | hum this is interesting | 07:50 |
| SK_work | what are you guys trying to do ? :) | 07:50 |
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| jusa_ | coderus: about the sound.profile = im.alert.tone => sound.filename , profile plugin in ngfd handles those, there value from profile (im.alert.tone) is transformed to propertylist key sound.filename . this propertylist is then visible to the event sinks, like gst plugin when the event is played | 07:56 |
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| jusa_ | coderus: ngf-client (from libngf-client) can be used to test the ngfd events | 07:59 |
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| spiiroin | coderus: apart from profiles that are always present profiled is fully data driven. profiles and default values are defined in /etc/profiled/ (new files can be added there). delta to defaults is stored at ~/.profiled/ (should not be edited) | 08:22 |
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| spiiroin | for new values to be accepted, they must have entry in [datatype] and [fallback] sections | 08:24 |
| spiiroin | when files are added/removed from /etc/profiled, profiled will re-evaluate the situation | 08:25 |
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| spiiroin | you can see it happening via running "profileclient -T" as nemo user (install via: pkcon install profileclient) | 08:26 |
| spiiroin | ... use something like /etc/profiled/60.my_package.ini & unique enough prefixes for values too | 08:31 |
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| coderus | spiiroin: thanks | 09:37 |
| coderus | jusa_: thanks | 09:37 |
| coderus | was afk for a while too :) | 09:38 |
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| coderus | emm | 09:40 |
| coderus | Fatal error: profileclient-1.0.1-1.3.8.armv7hl requires profiled = 1.0.1-1.3.8, but this requirement cannot be provided | 09:40 |
| coderus | spiiroin: ^ | 09:40 |
| coderus | my profiled have 1.0.1-6.1.Nemo version | 09:42 |
| coderus | nevermind, just ignored it with zypper | 09:47 |
| coderus | yeah, i did same with dbus-monitor :) | 09:47 |
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| coderus | btw, will profile values update automatically after installing config file? | 10:05 |
| coderus | for ngfd i need to restart service to make it work | 10:05 |
| manqeloque | lpotter, ah so this https://github.com/mer-packages/connman still lacks some patches from jolla? | 10:09 |
| jusa_ | coderus: profiled should handle new files in /etc/profiled without restart, ngfd needs to be restarted atm | 10:17 |
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| coderus | jusa_: okay | 10:24 |
| coderus | exploring profiled-qt5 | 10:24 |
| coderus | its me or it have no get_properties and set_properties as plain profiled? | 10:24 |
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| jusa_ | heh.. seems so.. | 10:28 |
| coderus | okay, will use profiled as is :) | 10:30 |
| coderus | or.. | 10:30 |
| coderus | just use dbus | 10:30 |
| coderus | its beter :) | 10:30 |
| jusa_ | profiled-qt uses dbus, how about implement setters and getters etc there? | 10:32 |
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| coderus | yes i just grabbed it to my project | 10:41 |
| coderus | or you about contribute to profiled-qt itself? | 10:41 |
| jusa_ | nope | 10:43 |
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| oshobby | hello | 10:50 |
| oshobby | is there anyone here? | 10:50 |
| Bysmyyr | maybe | 10:50 |
| oshobby | hello. just wanted to ask a question | 10:50 |
| Bysmyyr | ask, not ask to ask :) | 10:51 |
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| oshobby | when will sailfish images be available for downlad? | 10:51 |
| spiiroin | coderus: there is also the "original" libprofiled with C bindings | 10:51 |
| Stskeeps | they are already for nexus 4 | 10:51 |
| coderus | spiiroin: well yeah | 10:52 |
| oshobby | so will there be no general image for trying it out maybe in something like virtualbox? | 10:52 |
| coderus | but it seems more comfortable to implement dbus myself | 10:52 |
| coderus | oshobby: | 10:53 |
| coderus | oshobby: em, install SDK | 10:53 |
| coderus | it contains sailfish in virtualbox emulator | 10:53 |
| coderus | but x86 | 10:53 |
| oshobby | hmmm the last time i installed it, it didnt have the whole os. just a emulation for testing out any programs you make | 10:53 |
| coderus | sure | 10:54 |
| coderus | it wont contain entrie os ever | 10:54 |
| coderus | just for general experience | 10:54 |
| oshobby | if i wanted to check out nemo forexample, it ispossible toget nemo img files which i can use to install in vbox. I was wondering if the same would be available for sailfish | 10:54 |
| coderus | it is possible if somebody in jolla compile production binaries for x86 | 10:55 |
| cos- | what is the "whole os"? | 10:55 |
| locusf | oshobby: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Wayland_Nemo_VM_Image | 10:55 |
| oshobby | yes that was what i meant locusf :). only for sailefish and not nemo | 10:56 |
| locusf | ah you probably already know about that | 10:56 |
| locusf | yep | 10:56 |
| oshobby | leaving x86 aside, does anyone know any timeline as to when it will be ported over to other gnome-terminal | 10:58 |
| oshobby | sudo shutdown -h now | 10:58 |
| oshobby | bTgWmFcfmReL | 10:58 |
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| cos- | good password, congratulations :-) | 10:59 |
| stephg | heh | 11:00 |
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| gabriel9|work | does anyone have c++ code example about custom models? | 11:04 |
| gabriel9|work | We need some basic Person model example :D | 11:05 |
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| gabriel9|work | name, age, and gender | 11:05 |
| gabriel9|work | how to create it in C++ and how to use it in Qt | 11:05 |
| coderus | gabriel9|work: http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-4.8/qabstractlistmodel.html | 11:06 |
| coderus | you can ccheck my filemodel as example: https://github.com/CODeRUS/mitakuuluu2/blob/master/client/src/filesmodel.h | 11:09 |
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| coderus | wrong link | 11:10 |
| coderus | this one: https://github.com/CODeRUS/mitakuuluu2/tree/master/filemodel/src | 11:10 |
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| gabriel9|work | thanks rus coder | 11:11 |
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| gabriel9|work | but it is to much for noob in c++ like me | 11:13 |
| gabriel9|work | i got many WTF reading your code :) | 11:14 |
| gabriel9|work | and i am not saying it is bad code, i just do not know what are all those things | 11:14 |
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| MSameer | gabriel9|work: http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5/qtquick-modelviewsdata-cppmodels.html | 11:15 |
| MSameer | gabriel9|work: what are you trying to do? maybe it can be done with a QML-only model | 11:16 |
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| coderus | gabriel9|work: just start and try | 11:17 |
| coderus | every thing is look hard at beginning | 11:17 |
| gabriel9|work | i coded some models for N9, and they worked. When i try to do same for Sailfish hell broken | 11:18 |
| gabriel9|work | MSameer: this is great | 11:18 |
| MSameer | gabriel9|work: N9 is Qt4, Sailfish is Qt5 and there are some minor differences | 11:19 |
| gabriel9|work | i know java and php and js | 11:19 |
| gabriel9|work | i coded my app using js and qml | 11:19 |
| MSameer | in Qt4, you do: QHash<int, QByteArray> roles; setRoleNames(roles) | 11:19 |
| gabriel9|work | works nice, now i want to learn something :) | 11:19 |
| MSameer | in Qt5 you need to do something different for example | 11:19 |
| gabriel9|work | that's it serRoleNames is not defined in Qt5 | 11:20 |
| MSameer | yes but you override it from QAbstractItemModel::roleNames() const IIRC | 11:20 |
| MSameer | QHash<int, QByteArray> QAbstractItemModel::roleNames() const [virtual] | 11:20 |
| MSameer | my memory still serves me :) | 11:20 |
| MSameer | gabriel9|work: http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5/qabstractitemmodel.html#roleNames | 11:21 |
| gabriel9|work | ok, need to check what is virtual | 11:21 |
| MSameer | gabriel9|work: check that https://gitorious.org/cameraplus/cameraplus/source/a0ee08c91ba0da653eff5202f4ffe8b29320e2a5:src/postcapturemodel.h (line 100) | 11:21 |
| gabriel9|work | i gues it is something like abstract | 11:21 |
| Yaniel | gabriel9|work: "to be overridden by subclasses" | 11:22 |
| MSameer | gabriel9|work: a virtual function is a function that you can inherit | 11:22 |
| gabriel9|work | interface | 11:22 |
| Yaniel | yeah interface is pretty close | 11:22 |
| gabriel9|work | ok | 11:22 |
| MSameer | gabriel9|work: is a function that you can override in your subclass I mean | 11:22 |
| MSameer | and the compiler will know that it's overridden by your subclass | 11:22 |
| gabriel9|work | ahaa | 11:23 |
| MSameer | even if you cast your subclass to the superclass and call this method, the compiler will generate the right call | 11:23 |
| MSameer | (did I complicate it ?) | 11:23 |
| MSameer | gabriel9|work: an abstract virtual method is a method that you _MUST_ inherit because it's not defined in the superclass | 11:23 |
| Yaniel | MSameer: that is not certain I think | 11:24 |
| MSameer | Yaniel: is it not? | 11:24 |
| Yaniel | you can have multple subclasses each with their different implementations | 11:24 |
| gabriel9|work | interfaces in java are like that, needs to be implement | 11:24 |
| Yaniel | gabriel9|work: basically virtual means that subclasses can (or should) override it | 11:25 |
| gabriel9|work | so there is no MUST? | 11:25 |
| MSameer | Yaniel: yes but I was making it simpler by covering the simple case | 11:25 |
| Yaniel | "pure virtual" means that it is only defined as an interface ie. there is no implementation until you do it in a subclass | 11:25 |
| MSameer | oh crap. it's pure virtual not abstract virtual | 11:25 |
| MSameer | my bad | 11:25 |
| MSameer | sorry :) | 11:25 |
| MSameer | Yaniel: thanks for catching me :) | 11:26 |
| Yaniel | written like; virtual void foo() = 0; | 11:26 |
| gabriel9|work | and there is pure and abstract :) | 11:26 |
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| MSameer | gabriel9|work: pure virtual and virtual | 11:26 |
| MSameer | gabriel9|work: abstract is a class with a pure virtual method IIRC | 11:26 |
| MSameer | Yaniel will correct me | 11:26 |
| Yaniel | pretty much like that yes | 11:27 |
| MSameer | class Foo { virtual void foo(); }; <-- virtual method which you can override | 11:27 |
| MSameer | class Foo { virtual void foo() = 0; }; <-- pure virtual method which you MUST override | 11:27 |
| Yaniel | yep | 11:27 |
| gabriel9|work | virtual void foo() = 0; | 11:27 |
| Yaniel | the latter would be what java calls an interface | 11:27 |
| MSameer | and in case #2, the class is called an abstract class | 11:28 |
| Yaniel | gabriel9|work: means that there is no implementation of that function in this class | 11:28 |
| gabriel9|work | i was thinking there is something like pure virtual void foo(); | 11:28 |
| Yaniel | no | 11:28 |
| MSameer | gabriel9|work: think of it like this: pure in C++ is a = 0; appended | 11:28 |
| Yaniel | MSameer: abstract class, interface | 11:28 |
| MSameer | Yaniel: I am not a java guy :p | 11:29 |
| gabriel9|work | thanks guys | 11:29 |
| gabriel9|work | i will check code and try toc reate something with it | 11:30 |
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| MSameer | gabriel9|work: BTW if you inherit an abstract class without overriding the methods then the compiler will error out so no need to worry | 11:33 |
| MSameer | and also take care of the const part because it's a pitfall (at least for me sometimes) | 11:33 |
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| Yaniel | beware of the infamous vtables | 11:34 |
| Yaniel | (yes C++ is confusing) | 11:34 |
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| MSameer | wait until he gets to C++0x :D | 11:36 |
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| Yaniel | let's not go there | 11:39 |
| Yaniel | even though it is supported in the SDK | 11:39 |
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| artemma | Has anybody tried quick qml reloading as in https://seravo.fi/2014/optimal-sailfish-sdk-workflow-qml-auto-reloading ? | 13:10 |
| artemma | works in one-click way on emulator and device or needs thinking? | 13:10 |
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| coderus | spiiroin: jusa_: thank you guys, it's working flawlessly. | 13:48 |
| coderus | now mitakuuluu ahve superawesone notifications :) | 13:48 |
| SK_work | coderus: I will need your help :) | 13:50 |
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| coderus | SK_work: ? | 13:56 |
| SK_work | coderus: about notifications :) | 13:56 |
| coderus | but what exactly? | 13:57 |
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| coderus | Mitakuuluu v0.5-8 with notifications sound settings and some fixies: https://github.com/CODeRUS/mitakuuluu2/releases/tag/v0.5-8 | 14:06 |
| SK_work | coderus: well, I'm at work, so I don't know, but I'm thinking about modifying system notifications | 14:06 |
| SK_work | (disabling vibration for some of them etc) | 14:07 |
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| coderus | SK_work: /usr/share/ngfd/events.d | 14:10 |
| SK_work | coderus: but you need to change them ? | 14:10 |
| SK_work | and do you know how android push notifications ? | 14:10 |
| SK_work | (because you can push notifications if they are not defined in /usr/share/ngfd/events.d iirc) | 14:11 |
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| coderus | ngfd keep vibration parameters you asking | 14:22 |
| coderus | notifications described in /usr/share/lipstick/notificationcategories | 14:23 |
| coderus | and no i dont know anything about android | 14:23 |
| jusa_ | coderus: cool! | 14:24 |
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| SK_work | coderus: alright, will try, thx | 14:27 |
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| coderus | Mitakuuluu v0.6-1 release on openrepos: https://openrepos.net/content/coderus/mitakuuluu | 15:58 |
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| coderus | jusa_: some users reporting adding profiled file by package not working, if created/copied manually it applied by profiled. | 17:18 |
| coderus | is there something i should know? | 17:18 |
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| squidd | wait what | 17:40 |
| squidd | my version was like 0.2.1 or something :D | 17:40 |
| squidd | how are you at .6 now? :O | 17:40 |
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| bentz | hello! | 18:06 |
| coderus | hello? | 18:07 |
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| chem|st | hello& | 18:11 |
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| meek_geek | hi | 18:19 |
| Yaniel | hi | 18:20 |
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| meek_geek | Yaniel, sup | 18:22 |
| meek_geek | remember me ? | 18:22 |
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| Yaniel | mm no | 18:23 |
| meek_geek | Yaniel, I am sharefree | 18:23 |
| Yaniel | oh | 18:23 |
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| meek_geek | Yaniel, remember me ? | 18:24 |
| Yaniel | yes | 18:24 |
| meek_geek | oh I do not lol | 18:26 |
| matrixx | hmm, shouldn't enter press in TextField close virtual keyboard? | 18:26 |
| matrixx | or if not, can I somehow get a signal when enter is pressed and close it manually? | 18:27 |
| coderus | matrixx: EnterKey attached property | 18:27 |
| matrixx | coderus: thanks, exactly what I was looking for | 18:28 |
| meek_geek | I think OnePLus One phone killed it | 18:28 |
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| jusa_ | coderus: hmm.. just guessing, but if profiled handles file watching with inotify, and it's different when cp or mv. then if package install moves the file in pöace from some temp.. dunno really, just guessing | 19:05 |
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| coderus | jusa_: i'm trying it now with rpm %config directive. waiting for users report. | 19:09 |
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| coderus | jusa_: but well, it doesnt even work after reboot | 19:09 |
| coderus | jusa_: only manual remove/create working | 19:10 |
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| Nightmare__ | coderus: settings in 6-2 seem to work | 19:16 |
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| coderus | Nightmare__: can you remove package, ensure /etc/profiled doesnt contain mitakuuluu config, reboot, install it and try again | 19:18 |
| jusa_ | coderus: hmm that's strange | 19:18 |
| coderus | jusa_: yeah, my mind blown. | 19:19 |
| Nightmare__ | i wanted to say it works correct :) | 19:19 |
| coderus | Nightmare__: already did it?.. | 19:20 |
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| Nightmare__ | yes, and etc/profiled contained just a jolla_default after uninstall | 19:23 |
| coderus | Nightmare__: thanks | 19:24 |
| coderus | rolling out update then | 19:24 |
| Nightmare__ | no problem | 19:25 |
| Nightmare__ | it even plays the correct sound file :D | 19:28 |
| Nightmare__ | coderus: did you somehow change the notification type or led pattern? it's flashing green instead of blue since 0.6-x | 19:31 |
| coderus | yes notifications now colored :) | 19:32 |
| Nightmare__ | how? | 19:33 |
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| coderus | ngfd config | 19:36 |
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| Nightmare__ | found it :) really nice feature | 19:47 |
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| Nightmare__ | coderus: i was confused, because in hybris-led.ini it says: in blinking mode only "full intensity colors" are supported like 00ff00, but it still works fine with 00ff80 and 80ff00 in your pattern | 19:56 |
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| coderus | i'm not sure if it worked :) | 19:56 |
| Nightmare__ | jolla is lying :D | 19:57 |
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| coderus | i mean 00ff80 can not work and instead 00ffff used automatically | 19:58 |
| coderus | and it seems to be true | 19:59 |
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| Nightmare__ | could be possible, 00ff80 was bluer than it should be | 20:01 |
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| cvp_ | coderus: you write "If you already installed Mitakuuluu go to Settings - Account - Delete everything." - at moment i have a neverending account (dont need to pay) , if i delete my account, will i lose this status ? | 20:36 |
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| Yaniel | that would be wrong in so many ways | 20:47 |
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| Morpog_PC | cvp_, only if you delete it from server I guess | 20:56 |
| Morpog_PC | oh i see it's not separated anymore | 20:57 |
| Nightmare__ | cvp_: just try it wothout, i never deleted my account | 20:58 |
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| coderus | cvp_: really? where i wrote it? | 21:06 |
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| cvp_ | Nightmare__: Morpog_PC thank you :) | 21:10 |
| Nightmare__ | btw: activating an expired whatsapp account with the offical symbian app extends it for another year | 21:13 |
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| coderus | so what? | 21:20 |
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| cvp_ | coderus: on Openrepos :) | 21:32 |
| artemma | I fail to install entr to emulator. Anybody succeeded? https://seravo.fi/2014/optimal-sailfish-sdk-workflow-qml-auto-reloading | 21:32 |
| walokra | have to try it tomorrow | 21:33 |
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| * artemma is sorta fine with having to shut down most of apps to let instagram scroll fine, I can understand lack of memory slowness. What's really annoying is that closing UI then becomes sluggish too, so it takes lots of time to shut down apps and I always switch into some app instead of closing it, because tap processing happened to be too sluggish | 21:40 | |
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| coderus | cvp_: link | 21:47 |
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| Sazpaimon_ | so probably too early to tell, seeing as the device isn't even out yet, but what's the likelyhood of getting sailfish on the oneplus one, considering that it comes preinstalled with cyanogen? Basically, anyone on the team handling porting to N4 and SGS3 eyeballing this device? | 21:53 |
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| sledges | Sazpaimon_: it's hard not to ;) | 22:16 |
| Sazpaimon_ | Im mostly asking because that would influence my purchase decision on it | 22:21 |
| Sazpaimon_ | I'm really hurting to get something to replace my N9 | 22:22 |
| Sazpaimon_ | and, being US-based, the jolla phone isn't an option :( | 22:22 |
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| sledges | I'd wait for reviews of initial OnePlus owners first | 22:31 |
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| artemma | has anybody tried headless qml? | 22:35 |
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| artemma | since javascript + qml structures is quite powerful combo, I am thinking of giving it a try for non-visual processing | 22:36 |
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| artemma | QQuickView of course wants only visual content and creates window, but maybe there's a way to go without it | 22:36 |
| special | QML itself isn't actually tied to the UI at all | 22:37 |
| special | QQmlEngine has nothing UI related, and that's all you need to start loading and executing qml files | 22:38 |
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| special | Quick is the UI part. You don't have to use Quick. | 22:38 |
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| artemma | special: I am just browsing the docs looking for what to pass my headless qml to :) | 22:40 |
| artemma | passing it to QQuickView creates window | 22:41 |
| special | QQmlEngine. | 22:41 |
| artemma | yeah.. maybe I can instantiate it in a standalone way, indeed | 22:42 |
| * artemma trying.. | 22:42 | |
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| artemma | can't quite see how to pass a qml file to it.. | 22:44 |
| special | http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5/qqmlcomponent.html#details | 22:45 |
| artemma | maybe via setcontextproperty and pass qqmlcomponent to it.. | 22:46 |
| artemma | aha! | 22:46 |
| artemma | yeah, just the command line | 22:46 |
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| artemma | special: thanks! worked | 23:12 |
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| Sazpaimon_ | <sledges> I'd wait for reviews of initial OnePlus owners first | 23:27 |
| Sazpaimon_ | where's the fun in that? :) | 23:28 |
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