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| Umeaboy | I'm almost done with the translation of Sailfish OS into Swedish, who can review my work? I used the unofficial-jolla-translations on Transifex.com | 02:54 |
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| Stskeeps | okay, time to really parse last meeting's text.. | 08:27 |
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| netzvieh | next meeting is today, isn't it? 15:00 cest? | 08:33 |
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| tbr | netzvieh: UTC | 08:34 |
| tbr | netzvieh: it's in my mail | 08:35 |
| tbr | that's 1700 CEST 1800 EEST | 08:35 |
| netzvieh | tbr: thx :) | 08:35 |
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| lpotter | too late for me | 09:01 |
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| coderus | qml profiler should work in 1404 sdk? | 11:19 |
| kaltsi | I think so, but it requires that you install a package to the device | 11:19 |
| kaltsi | with emu it is already there | 11:20 |
| kaltsi | debugging part from here https://sailfishos.org/wiki/SDK_Alpha_Qt5_Known_Issues | 11:20 |
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| coderus | i'm not using emu | 11:25 |
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| coderus | just | 11:36 |
| coderus | QML Profiler: Connecting to 192.168.2.19:10000 ... | 11:36 |
| coderus | and nothing happening | 11:36 |
| coderus | app started with debugging: [D 17:35:17] QML Debugger: Waiting for connection on port 10000... | 11:37 |
| kaltsi | did you install the package qt5-qtdeclarative-plugin-qmlinspector | 11:37 |
| coderus | sure | 11:37 |
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| coderus | i profiled app manually with old sdk | 11:38 |
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| kaltsi | hm it does work for me.. and you're using sdk 1404? | 11:38 |
| coderus | just thought it should work out of box now | 11:38 |
| kaltsi | it does, no reason for it not to | 11:38 |
| kaltsi | how do you start the debugging? | 11:39 |
| coderus | well, maybe i'm doing t in wrong order? | 11:39 |
| kaltsi | or profiling | 11:39 |
| coderus | opening analyze tab and clicking start button | 11:39 |
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| kaltsi | do you have debug build on? | 11:40 |
| coderus | sure | 11:40 |
| coderus | gdb working | 11:40 |
| kaltsi | do you #include <QtQuick> somewhere | 11:40 |
| coderus | yes in main | 11:41 |
| kaltsi | if you ssh to device do you see your app running with the -qmljsdebug* option there? | 11:41 |
| coderus | yes | 11:43 |
| coderus | /usr/bin/harbour-mitakuuluu2 -qmljsdebugger=port:10001,block | 11:43 |
| kaltsi | 10001 ? hmm | 11:43 |
| kaltsi | is your port 10000 already reserved for some reason | 11:43 |
| kaltsi | if it tries to connect to 10000 | 11:43 |
| coderus | manually starting process and using analyze -> external profiler | 11:44 |
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| coderus | this way working | 11:44 |
| kaltsi | do you give it 10001? | 11:45 |
| kaltsi | ahaa the play button in the analyze window starts the external profiler | 11:46 |
| kaltsi | if I choose the 'qml profiler' from the menu (not the external) it starts it directly without asking for port | 11:46 |
| kaltsi | I've never clicked that little play button :P | 11:47 |
| kaltsi | ah the first time I clicked it it started the external asking for port.. but after I have chosen the normal qml profiler from menu the little play button doesn't ask anymore, just runs | 11:48 |
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| kaltsi | so I don't know if that would work for you too | 11:49 |
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| kaltsi | coderus: if you want to fix the cleaning of rpms when incrementing version, ssh to mersdk and edit mb2 script like this https://github.com/sailfish-sdk/sdk-setup/commit/4fd6c1f9a8cb24085980934bddb51778f331f2eb | 12:02 |
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| coderus | kaltsi: thanks | 12:25 |
| coderus | kaltsi: can you also make debug build automatically upload and install my application debug symbols? | 12:26 |
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| kaltsi | debug stuff is filtered away.. mb2 does not know if it's debug build or not unfortunately | 12:26 |
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| kaltsi | that's a bigger change then.. got to think about how to do it properly | 12:28 |
| kaltsi | if you want to do it yourself meanwhile, search for run_deploy and change the find RPMS part in pkcon method to not filter out *debug* | 12:29 |
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| coderus | kaltsi: thanks ^) | 12:41 |
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| lbt | erm | 12:59 |
| lbt | the rsync deploy sends debug stuff to the device | 12:59 |
| lbt | when I want to debug I run : set debug-file-directory /opt/sdk/harbour-app/usr/lib/debug:/usr/lib/debug | 13:00 |
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| lbt | in my gdb session | 13:00 |
| kaltsi | can you set it from qt creator? | 13:00 |
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| lbt | not tried yet - I'm still on the older SDK :) | 13:02 |
| kaltsi | ok, if you ever try and it works, let's add that to some faq :) | 13:02 |
| lbt | I am running gdb just fine on the device with nice backtraces etc | 13:03 |
| lbt | but the goal was to run gdb-server iirc | 13:03 |
| lbt | and that doesn't need deployed symbols | 13:03 |
| kaltsi | oh right :p | 13:03 |
| kaltsi | it's running gdb-server now | 13:03 |
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| lbt | in VM ? | 13:04 |
| kaltsi | no | 13:04 |
| lbt | erm | 13:04 |
| kaltsi | anything in vm is out | 13:04 |
| lbt | is gdb running in VM | 13:04 |
| kaltsi | no | 13:04 |
| lbt | ok - well that's going to be fun :) | 13:04 |
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| flotron | anybody know how to fix this with warehouse? http://i.imgur.com/oETIvLA.jpg | 13:35 |
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| flotron | when i pkcon refresh i get: Fatal error: Authentication failed (is SSU set up correctly?) | 13:40 |
| kaltsi | flotron: looks like that repository url is not correct.. it says .../nemo/adaptation-/armv7hl/... I think the adaptation- part is not complete | 13:41 |
| carepack | if you want to go back. mv /etc/ssu/ssu.ini to ssu-old. the ssu domain sales. after that ssu ur. then yiou'll be able to add the repo's for the store again | 13:43 |
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| flotron | already did that, but i don't know why it modifies the repo every time i modify it. For ex i have https://store-repository.jolla.com/releases/1.0.5.16/jolla-hw/adaptation-android-common/armv7hl/ inside ssu but when i ssu lr i get this https://releases.jolla.com/releases/1.0.5.16/nemo/adaptation-/armv7hl/ | 13:48 |
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| carepack | yep. same for me.... | 13:49 |
| flotron | and you have problems with warehouse? | 13:51 |
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| carepack | yes. but have you tried to remove adaptation0 and 1? | 13:53 |
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| wickwire | hi guys, does anyone know where does pkcon keep the rpm app packages in the system, and how to clean? | 13:53 |
| carepack | maybe /var/cache/zypp/packages/ | 13:54 |
| Stskeeps | how's EA2 going for you guys? :P | 13:54 |
| carepack | going for an daily driver..... | 13:55 |
| carepack | :-). really. the improvement from ea1 to ea2 was a big step. | 13:55 |
| flotron | adaptation0 and 1 are useless? | 13:56 |
| Stskeeps | REMINDER: Weekly meeting about SailfishOS, open source, collaboration, way forward @ today, 15:00 UTC -- https://lists.sailfishos.org/pipermail/devel/2014-April/004007.html | 13:56 |
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| carepack | the only thing I'm anger is the delay from time to time when I wake up the device | 13:56 |
| Stskeeps | carepack: hmm thought that was sorted, unless you broke the hack we added | 13:56 |
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| cos- | i got a total blackout of the device yesterday. had to remove battery to boot it. | 13:57 |
| carepack | flotron: to get store working you don't need the adaptation repo | 13:57 |
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| carepack | stskeeps: it's much better but I have it from time to time. I don't think I broke them because I was going back on official ea2 and doesn't update lipstick. stock | 13:58 |
| Stskeeps | hmm, ok | 13:58 |
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| carepack | the problem isn't present if the device connected to power or pc. But when it goes in deep sleep I have to wake it up 3 or 4 time with power + vol down. I can't say it sure but it looks for me that wlan cause the issue | 14:00 |
| carepack | and since mp3 is working I sorted android completely out... | 14:00 |
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| flotron | without adaptation0 and 1 worked | 14:01 |
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| carepack | :-) | 14:01 |
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| flotron | so what are those? | 14:02 |
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| carepack | maybe some components for the hardware adaption layer to work on android devices or for parts of the alien dalvik | 14:04 |
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| flotron | I discovered that i can turn on my n4 the 6th or 7th time i long press the power button. The lockscreen can't figure it out yet | 14:07 |
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| guimendes | hey guys, why do we need to flash stock android 4.2.2 on nexus 4? | 14:10 |
| lbt | Known good basepoint | 14:10 |
| tbr | also binary compatibility with build | 14:11 |
| lbt | We really don't have much spare time - so wasting it on "oh I skipped that step and it seemed to work" bugs can be somewhat frustrating :) | 14:11 |
| guimendes | nice! | 14:12 |
| guimendes | I installed without this step and my wifi just don't work | 14:12 |
| lbt | (that was just supposed to explain why a good basepoint makes sense - not have a go at anyone!) | 14:12 |
| lbt | guimendes: exactly - it's possibly not related but you never know :) | 14:12 |
| guimendes | yeah | 14:12 |
| carepack | wlan not working because of wrong modem / baseband | 14:12 |
| guimendes | I installed modem from 4.2.2 | 14:13 |
| lbt | you know what to do... | 14:13 |
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| guimendes | but I did not replaced my android with it, I used some trick with MultiROM | 14:13 |
| guimendes | that may be the cause | 14:13 |
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| carepack | which kernel??? | 14:14 |
| guimendes | default | 14:14 |
| guimendes | all stock | 14:14 |
| carepack | kexec? | 14:14 |
| guimendes | nope | 14:14 |
| guimendes | it's not working | 14:14 |
| flotron | Is there a way that i can tweak the display refresh rate? | 14:16 |
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| guimendes | my steps: added new rom into multirom with cm 10.1.3; flashed 4.2.2 modem; flashed sailfishos zip (without demo content); swap first rom with sailfish | 14:17 |
| guimendes | this allows me to boot | 14:17 |
| guimendes | but wifi does not work | 14:17 |
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| tbr | reminder: sailfish community meeting in 40min in #mer-meeting! - https://lists.sailfishos.org/pipermail/devel/2014-April/004007.html | 14:18 |
| guimendes | I think this can not boot as second rom due to something related to hybrid boot | 14:19 |
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| otto | tbr: where in general are people supposed to find more information about how to use OBS channel into SailfishOS repos? There is nothing on google with keywords like "sailfishos chum" or "obs chum". Neither has Mer wiki anything about "chum". | 14:21 |
| otto | tbr: If you could please add something to Mer wiki and send me the link when done, and I'll help advertising chum in our blog. | 14:22 |
| tbr | otto: this is partly related to jolla being mum about things | 14:22 |
| tbr | there is no sense to put work into this if jolla gives us the finger over it | 14:22 |
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| otto | ok, I won't do anything about it then for now | 14:29 |
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| Stskeeps | TMavica: who made the IM, out of curiousity? | 14:33 |
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| TMavica | my fd and me | 14:38 |
| TMavica | but got some problem | 14:38 |
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| TMavica | after install in device, the sound forever keep in silence and without vibrate in sound mode | 14:39 |
| Stskeeps | TMavica: okay, is it open source? | 14:39 |
| TMavica | sure | 14:39 |
| TMavica | u want? | 14:39 |
| Stskeeps | well, url to git repository ;) | 14:39 |
| Stskeeps | just to see | 14:39 |
| TMavica | wait | 14:39 |
| TMavica | i not at home | 14:40 |
| squidd | steal | 14:40 |
| squidd | ;) | 14:40 |
| Stskeeps | meh, i can't steal.. :P | 14:40 |
| TMavica | it is very good! | 14:41 |
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| TMavica | i happy i can type traditional chinese with correct input method, instead of default one.. | 14:41 |
| Yaniel | huhh | 14:42 |
| Yaniel | what happened to fdisk? | 14:42 |
| Yaniel | iirc it was there earlier | 14:42 |
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| Stskeeps | pretty sure it's still there | 14:42 |
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| tbr | Meeting starts in one minute on #mer-meeting! | 14:58 |
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| carepack | frlotron: you've pushed the script on xda? | 15:05 |
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| rusty88 | hey guys, what's the status of the hardware adaptation kit? | 15:20 |
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| coderus | https://sailfishos.org/sailfish-silica/qml-sailfishsilica-searchfield.html | 17:31 |
| coderus | this example not working for me | 17:31 |
| coderus | Invalid alias reference. Unable to find id "headerItem" | 17:31 |
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| coderus | without it seems i cant set field text from outside | 17:34 |
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| ejjoman | good evening :) | 17:39 |
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| ejjoman | coderus: can you add me to the reviewers in mitakuuluu2 on transifex again? --> German translation | 18:04 |
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| dirkvl | panic! | 18:09 |
| dirkvl | my battery is draining very fast | 18:10 |
| dirkvl | not responsive | 18:10 |
| dirkvl | checked with lighthouse: | 18:10 |
| dirkvl | process called 'mount' is taking 100% of cpu2 | 18:10 |
| Stskeeps | ps aux ? | 18:13 |
| coderus | ejjoman: added | 18:13 |
| ejjoman | coderus: thank you :) | 18:13 |
| dirkvl | what do you mean? | 18:13 |
| coderus | dirkvl: sdcard with multiple partitions? | 18:14 |
| dirkvl | had an sd card | 18:14 |
| dirkvl | removed it | 18:14 |
| coderus | check lournal log | 18:14 |
| dirkvl | how do i do that? | 18:14 |
| carepack | journalctl | 18:15 |
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| dirkvl | a, took sd card out, rebooted | 18:17 |
| dirkvl | better | 18:17 |
| dirkvl | ha! and battery current went from 500ma to 250ma | 18:17 |
| dirkvl | i like | 18:17 |
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| artemma | QDBusInterface profileD( "com.nokia.profiled", "com/nokia/profiled", | 19:07 |
| artemma | "com.nokia.profiled" ); | 19:07 |
| artemma | QDBusReply<QString> dReply = profileD.call( "get_profile"); | 19:07 |
| artemma | why do I get arguments to dbus_message_new_method_call() were incorrect, assertion "_dbus_check_is_valid_path (path)" failed in file dbus-message.c line 1266. ? | 19:07 |
| artemma | command line seems to work file | 19:07 |
| artemma | fine* | 19:07 |
| artemma | e.g. dbus-send --type=method_call --print-reply --dest=com.nokia.profiled /com/nokia/profiled com.nokia.profiled.get_profile | 19:08 |
| Acce | are the timeout problems caused by dns of the virtual machines still present in the new sdk version? | 19:08 |
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| artemma | I can't get it. Path seems to be correct and works with dbus-send | 19:16 |
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| artemma | ah! first slash was missing! | 19:17 |
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| walokra | is there a bug in sailfishos emulator in showing textswitch checked icon? | 20:12 |
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| RavensStealth | Not to sound like a newbie but I have some graphic that I am working on but where do I upload them? | 20:35 |
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| szopin_sailing | is wayland 1.2(1.3) planned/in the works? | 20:38 |
| szopin_sailing | asking because someone recently brought up on tmo wayland-friendly project (mpv), that is on 1.2 since 6 months | 20:39 |
| szopin_sailing | if we're expecting everything x to move to wayland, having outdated wayland will be a major pain | 20:40 |
| MSameer | coderus: do you still maintain/update/fix Persecute for N9? | 20:40 |
| szopin_sailing | because it does seem like a major compatibility component, kernel like, like with n900, too old kernel=no new things, but as new things move to wayland right now there will be no old things, if/when vlc move to wayland it will be 1.3(4,5?) | 20:40 |
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| M4rtinK | I wonder if we might end in the same situation as on the N900 with the Jolla | 20:48 |
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| M4rtinK | eq. old Kernel due to BSP Android blobs only supporting 3.4 | 20:49 |
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| MSameer | M4rtinK: what's the issue? | 20:49 |
| szopin_sailing | old wayland so all new projects moving to it will be only 1.2+ | 20:50 |
| M4rtinK | MSameer: well, I don't see any at the moment and it is a LTS kernel at least | 20:50 |
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| M4rtinK | MSameer: so just noting a possible issue | 20:50 |
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| M4rtinK | but with a bit of brainstorming we might miss some BTRFS and ARM support improvements ? | 20:52 |
| M4rtinK | on the other hand Wayland and systemd are rather conservative in required Kernel features, so that should be covered | 20:52 |
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| szopin_ | 1.3 is supposedly coming in a couple of montha | 20:56 |
| szopin_ | so unless leaving 1.1 behind is on the table/in the works we will be two revisions back | 20:57 |
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| artemma | I want to show two time pickers in a flickable - whole UI is just about setting from-to time interval | 21:14 |
| artemma | two pickers don't fit to page so it has to scroll a little, that's okay | 21:14 |
| artemma | however, you cannot flick if you start flick in a time picker area (it starts time selection) :/ | 21:15 |
| artemma | what could be an alternative? | 21:15 |
| Turski | 1.3 coming? i already have 1.4 on my desktop | 21:17 |
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| coderus | MSameer: no, i have no time and interest for harmattan now | 21:20 |
| coderus | MSameer: why asking? | 21:20 |
| MSameer | coderus: thought about using it | 21:21 |
| MSameer | for someone | 21:21 |
| coderus | MSameer: well, for now whatsup is better | 21:21 |
| MSameer | yeah I decided to use it | 21:21 |
| szopin_sailing | in the xwayland tjc we had pro-hurra-optimistic guy: screw X it should die, everything is moving to wayland... what if everything moved to wayland 1.3? oops, ask them to provide 1.1? | 21:22 |
| szopin_sailing | thought for a while jolla would be ahead of curve so no worrybfrom too new things as wayland is too new, but wayland 1.3 looming in this actually quite worrying | 21:23 |
| Yaniel | artemma: still there? | 21:24 |
| M4rtinK | artemma: got you :) | 21:24 |
| artemma | Yaniel, M4rtinK , a little :) | 21:25 |
| Yaniel | artemma: well | 21:25 |
| artemma | skipped sleep last night, so not for long though :) | 21:25 |
| M4rtinK | artemma: https://github.com/M4rtinK/universal-components | 21:25 |
| Yaniel | how about having two "time fields" | 21:25 |
| M4rtinK | artemma: enjoy! :) | 21:25 |
| Yaniel | which open a time picker when tappec | 21:25 |
| Yaniel | tapped even | 21:25 |
| artemma | Yaniel: that will sure work, but.. the ONLY purpose for the screen is to set interval. I don't want to inject a requirement for extra tap | 21:26 |
| artemma | that is unless I figure something better | 21:26 |
| artemma | M4rtinK: looks cool! Let's promote it! | 21:26 |
| M4rtinK | artemma: just not that the controls version might not be fully self sufficient yet outside of modRana, you might need to comment/hardcode some stuff for the time being | 21:26 |
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| M4rtinK | artemma: sure, why not :) | 21:27 |
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| artemma | hmm, maybe accompanying demo app project could be good | 21:27 |
| M4rtinK | artemma: yeah | 21:28 |
| artemma | possibly in another repo, git subtreeing components | 21:28 |
| M4rtinK | artemma: and the docs are a bit sparse at the moment :) | 21:28 |
| M4rtinK | would be a good demonstration how it can be included in a project :) | 21:28 |
| artemma | M4rtinK: why custom license? I mean it is very-very permissive, but if it's 95% same as MIT, why not use a standard license? | 21:28 |
| artemma | or maybe it is MIT, just without naming it so.. | 21:29 |
| M4rtinK | isn't that BSD ? | 21:29 |
| Yaniel | artemma: well then just "replace" he field with a picker for the duration of the touch event | 21:29 |
| Yaniel | ? | 21:29 |
| M4rtinK | I took the same THP has in PyOtherSide | 21:29 |
| artemma | Yaniel: yes, that's an option. Still a bit of extra flickering.. so far I am leaning towards just having two always expanded controls. Maybe if I delete header and labels, it will fit.. | 21:30 |
| artemma | and time values maybe I draw right in the center of dials! :) | 21:30 |
| artemma | or maybe I just scale controls down :D | 21:30 |
| M4rtinK | artemma: looks like it is the MIT license | 21:31 |
| artemma | M4rtinK: I think it's totally cool, but would be nice to mention in readme | 21:31 |
| artemma | then ppl won't have to read and understand :) | 21:31 |
| artemma | thinking is hard | 21:31 |
| M4rtinK | well, I think I might just switch it to BSD when I'm at it | 21:32 |
| MSameer | M4rtinK: good work on universal components | 21:33 |
| MSameer | want a Qt 4.x backend too ? ;) | 21:33 |
| M4rtinK | MSameer: thanks! :) | 21:33 |
| MSameer | i have the same QML code used for both n9 and jolla | 21:33 |
| M4rtinK | MSameer: but try to use it first, it might be not as good as it looks like :) | 21:34 |
| M4rtinK | MSameer: how do you handle import QtQuick 1.1/2.0 ? | 21:34 |
| MSameer | I will try if I start a sailfish only project | 21:34 |
| M4rtinK | sed or you override everything ? :) | 21:35 |
| MSameer | M4rtinK: ugly but easy | 21:35 |
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| MSameer | M4rtinK: neither not. s/QtQuick 2.0/QtQuick 1.0/ during loading of QML files | 21:35 |
| MSameer | will show you some code in a sec | 21:35 |
| * artemma feel nostalgic for old good preprocessor magic | 21:35 | |
| MSameer | M4rtinK: https://gitorious.org/cameraplus/cameraplus/source/65c9ab1c1d38deb9ecfefc6e6814d07c3af9609f:src/main.cpp#L77 | 21:36 |
| M4rtinK | well if only QML devels could be arsed to actually use dynamic imports :) | 21:36 |
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| MSameer | https://gitorious.org/cameraplus/cameraplus/source/65c9ab1c1d38deb9ecfefc6e6814d07c3af9609f:src/qmlfileengine.cpp#L58 | 21:37 |
| MSameer | M4rtinK: that's the actual implementation | 21:37 |
| artemma | M4rtinK: you know the Qt/Jolla ppl answer: just use Loader :) | 21:37 |
| MSameer | since Qt5 does not have the filesystem backends anymore, I decided to load it only for 4.8 | 21:37 |
| MSameer | so the code would be suitable for QtQuick 2.0 and gets modified during runtime for QtQuick 1.1 | 21:37 |
| MSameer | _ugly_ but there is no other way | 21:38 |
| MSameer | and surprisingly it does not add much overhead if any | 21:38 |
| M4rtinK | nice hack! :) | 21:38 |
| MSameer | so that's for the common code. OS specific controls are also used | 21:38 |
| M4rtinK | artemma: I'm already using the loader trick for QtPositioning fallback | 21:39 |
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| M4rtinK | when we are at posting hacks, it looks like this: | 21:40 |
| M4rtinK | https://github.com/M4rtinK/modrana/blob/master/modules/gui_modules/gui_qt5/qml/Location.qml#L67 | 21:40 |
| M4rtinK | MSameer: so if you want to add a 4.8 backend - sure, why not :) | 21:42 |
| MSameer | M4rtinK: i will try but i cannot promise :) | 21:43 |
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| M4rtinK | MSameer: sure, no problem :) | 21:43 |
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| coderus | btw, location | 21:51 |
| coderus | i'm using PositionSource component | 21:51 |
| coderus | and i need to know when actual true current location really fetched | 21:52 |
| coderus | at first 1-3 fires of onPositionChanged i'm getting my old location | 21:52 |
| coderus | but i just moved some kilometers far | 21:52 |
| coderus | and only after 4-6 it returns my actual location | 21:53 |
| coderus | anyone? | 21:53 |
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| M4rtinK | my experience is that it first returns last known location | 21:59 |
| M4rtinK | then every minute (or 30 seconds ?, not sure ATM) approximate location that probably comes from WiFi or BTS positioning | 22:00 |
| M4rtinK | and after some time it starts returning the real location from GPS/Glonass | 22:00 |
| M4rtinK | and the duration of these phases varies | 22:01 |
| M4rtinK | sometimes you get the real fix almost instantly | 22:01 |
| M4rtinK | sometimes after 15 minutes | 22:01 |
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| M4rtinK | artemma, MSameer: ok, so the license is now BSD 3 clause (same as Silica QML code) and is noted in the README :) | 22:02 |
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| * MSameer hates contributing to BSD stuff :( | 22:03 | |
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| M4rtinK | MSameer: it is artemmas fault! :P | 22:12 |
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| M4rtinK | I'd license it under GPLv3 myself, but well, what the heck :) | 22:14 |
| M4rtinK | PyOtherSide is under MIT and Silica QML under BSD, so might well go with the flow this time :) | 22:15 |
| M4rtinK | well _it is_ a rather obscure project (at least currently) anyway :) | 22:16 |
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| M4rtinK | MSameer: but if it is a blocker for you, we might find a compromise I guess | 22:28 |
| MSameer | i am only 1 person so you can ignore me | 22:29 |
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| M4rtinK | who knows, choosing a wrong license can doom a project :) | 22:34 |
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| MSameer | M4rtinK: BSD is usually fine for others. I prefer LGPL/GPL to prevent people from taking my work and closing it | 23:23 |
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| MSameer | M4rtinK: BSD allows people to take my wok and close it | 23:23 |
| MSameer | which is why I don't like contributing to BSD style projects | 23:24 |
| MSameer | unless it's part of my job | 23:24 |
| M4rtinK | MSameer: basically my words | 23:24 |
| M4rtinK | MSameer: modRana, modRana data repository, Mieru, RePho, Panora, etc. are all GPLv3 for this reason | 23:25 |
| MSameer | artem writes cosed source stuff and that might be the reason why he wants it BSD | 23:25 |
| M4rtinK | yeah, that's the reason for sure | 23:25 |
| MSameer | (assuming he's the one who convinced you) | 23:25 |
| M4rtinK | he also specifically mentioned he would not contribute to GPL licensed codee as hi would not be able to use it in his closed stuff | 23:26 |
| MSameer | i don't have anything against him | 23:26 |
| MSameer | I just don't use his apps :p | 23:26 |
| M4rtinK | :D | 23:26 |
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| M4rtinK | still in this case I'm willing to make an exception from using GPL | 23:26 |
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| MSameer | it's your code so you are the boss :) | 23:27 |
| M4rtinK | well, yeah :) | 23:28 |
| MSameer | code is king | 23:28 |
| M4rtinK | I think in this case it should bring more good than bad | 23:28 |
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| MSameer | that's what I said | 23:28 |
| MSameer | I am one person so you can ignore me :) | 23:29 |
| M4rtinK | hopefully more people using it -> more people doing Sailfish/QtQuick apps | 23:29 |
| M4rtinK | well, you seem to have some good code that might be a nice addition to UC :P | 23:29 |
| MSameer | how nice, sailfish sends a paint event to my app after it gets minimized -> failure | 23:29 |
| M4rtinK | well, mine segfaults after it is closed when run with sailfish-qml but not with qmlscene :) | 23:30 |
| M4rtinK | at least it did this before the last update | 23:31 |
| M4rtinK | now I think it actually segfaults after being closed even when run with qmlscene :) | 23:31 |
| M4rtinK | consistent behavior :D | 23:31 |
| MSameer | the painting is the least of my issues. I am doing something horrible that breaks something somewhere in the camera stack | 23:31 |
| MSameer | can't even release an alpha with such issue :/ | 23:32 |
| M4rtinK | + an achievement - Python & QML app that segfaults ! :) | 23:32 |
| MSameer | M4rtinK: I crash the qml runtime a lot :p | 23:32 |
| M4rtinK | well, the impression I've got is that the Camera stack on Sailfish is not very stable :) | 23:32 |
| MSameer | qualcomm rules :( | 23:33 |
| MSameer | mostly binaries :( | 23:33 |
| M4rtinK | yeah, that's what I've though | 23:33 |
| M4rtinK | hybris can do only so much if the blobs are a POS | 23:33 |
| MSameer | it's worse | 23:34 |
| MSameer | hybris exposes other issues | 23:34 |
| MSameer | android is really permissive | 23:34 |
| MSameer | it allows you for example to use an attr without initialization | 23:34 |
| MSameer | glibc barfs heavily at some point when this happens | 23:34 |
| MSameer | pthread mutex attr | 23:35 |
| M4rtinK | ugh | 23:35 |
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| MSameer | i had to debug these issues | 23:35 |
| MSameer | and the other issue with android is that vendors seem to implement what's needed only | 23:35 |
| M4rtinK | wouldn't expect it to be _that_ fundamentally broken | 23:35 |
| MSameer | any deviation from the android use cases -> boom | 23:36 |
| M4rtinK | like good old ACPI@x86 :) | 23:36 |
| MSameer | so in camera for example, android initializes it | 23:36 |
| MSameer | then does get_parameters(); set_parameters(); | 23:36 |
| MSameer | for no good reason | 23:36 |
| MSameer | I have seen a crash if we don't do that | 23:37 |
| MSameer | it was not in qcom hw but something else | 23:37 |
| M4rtinK | lazy initialization ? :) | 23:37 |
| MSameer | a bunch of not so qualified people running to release in time :) | 23:37 |
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| M4rtinK | I've seen my share of crazy stuff in open source code bases | 23:38 |
| MSameer | open ssl ? :D | 23:38 |
| M4rtinK | but one can only image how most proprietary ones must look like :) | 23:39 |
| M4rtinK | YUM & old (RHEL 4/5) Anaconda releases are enough :) | 23:39 |
| MSameer | well, I still remember the comments from the leaked windows code that were posted on kuro5hin | 23:40 |
| MSameer | I am on debian for a reason :p | 23:40 |
| M4rtinK | :D | 23:41 |
| MSameer | found it | 23:41 |
| MSameer | / The specific idiot in this case is Office95, which likes | 23:41 |
| MSameer | // to free a random pointer when you start Word95 from a desktop | 23:41 |
| MSameer | // shortcut. | 23:41 |
| MSameer | http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/2/15/71552/7795 | 23:42 |
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| M4rtinK | for a good luck ? :) | 23:42 |
| M4rtinK | my favorite are utilities that unexpectedly revert to interactive behavior | 23:43 |
| M4rtinK | nothing better than lvcreate starting to ask you if you REALY want to wipe those old metadata | 23:44 |
| M4rtinK | which kinda sucks if the whole install gets stuck on partition creation as a result :) | 23:45 |
| MSameer | never seen those | 23:45 |
| MSameer | I stopped reinstalling linux years ago | 23:45 |
| MSameer | I just copy the installation from a laptop to the new one | 23:45 |
| M4rtinK | I'll be doing just that tomorrow | 23:46 |
| M4rtinK | but just to a SSD, not a whole new laptop | 23:46 |
| MSameer | good luck :) | 23:47 |
| M4rtinK | and when I'm at it I plan to move the rootfs to XFS and add bcache for the spinning disk that will remain as a data drive :) | 23:47 |
| M4rtinK | thanks! :) | 23:48 |
| MSameer | i still use ext3 | 23:48 |
| * MSameer is old fashioned | 23:48 | |
| M4rtinK | I still have EXT3 on some systems | 23:48 |
| M4rtinK | but it seems to get fragmented more easily than EXT4 | 23:49 |
| M4rtinK | but could be due to different workloads :) | 23:49 |
| MSameer | depends on how often you reboot too | 23:50 |
| M4rtinK | well, getting kinda late here :) | 23:54 |
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| M4rtinK | so I would say, good night for now :) | 23:55 |
| MSameer | good night | 23:56 |
| MSameer | it's almost 3 am here | 23:56 |
| coderus | M4rtinK: exactly | 23:58 |
| coderus | and there are no way to detect if real coordinates returned | 23:58 |
| coderus | ? | 23:58 |
| M4rtinK | coderus: I think I saw it discussed somewhere | 23:59 |
| M4rtinK | coderus: not sure if a solution was found | 23:59 |
| M4rtinK | coderus: things to check would be the timestamp | 23:59 |
| M4rtinK | coderus: and accuracy | 23:59 |
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