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| rapscallion | you probably get this often, if so my apologies | 01:14 |
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| rapscallion | there doesn't seem to be a lot of info on the sailfish website about android devices | 01:15 |
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| chriadam | rapscallion: I think you need to talk to sledges | 01:30 |
| chriadam | or Stskeepz | 01:30 |
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| william___ | i agree | 01:46 |
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| * satmd points at CVE-2014-0160 | 05:27 | |
| Stskeeps | yes, yes, we are reacting.. | 05:29 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 05:29 |
| satmd | :) | 05:29 |
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| satmd | good morning | 05:30 |
| Stskeeps | morn | 05:30 |
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| satmd | off to work now | 05:32 |
| satmd | I mean... "I go *" | 05:32 |
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| pp_ | :-) | 05:41 |
| jussi | o/ | 05:41 |
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| narchie | is there any harbour guide somewhere? | 06:42 |
| Turski | narchie: something like this? https://harbour.jolla.com/faq | 06:42 |
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| narchie | Turski: thanks | 06:45 |
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| stephg | ugh, patch Tuesday :( | 07:43 |
| leinir | well, if you're running XP, at least it'll be the last one ;) | 07:44 |
| stephg | haha | 07:44 |
| stephg | no sadly refering to CVE-2014-0160 | 07:45 |
| leinir | Oh right | 07:47 |
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| TheBootroo_work | Nicd-: okay i'll add remorse | 07:56 |
| Nicd- | it would be in line with the experience in other sailfish apps :) | 07:57 |
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| TheBootroo_work | yep | 08:16 |
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| chem|st | stephg: I doubt Jolla does patch anything before their 5week period ends... | 08:39 |
| Stskeeps | fwiw we've done hotfixes before but it really comes down to timing | 08:40 |
| Aard | chem|st: we'll most likely have that fix in the upcoming update. if we have unexpected issues it'll get pushed as hotfix shortly afterwards | 08:45 |
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| chem|st | Aard: that is exactly what I said isnt it? | 08:46 |
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| Aard | no | 08:47 |
| chem|st | I doubt that you will ship it before the next update, now you tell me that it s in the next or right after... | 08:48 |
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| chem|st | o.O | 08:48 |
| chem|st | nvm | 08:48 |
| Aard | there's no point in shipping it before if the next update comes out within a week or so | 08:48 |
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| stephg | this one doesn't really matter on the client side it seems to me apart from in some very esoteric situations | 09:00 |
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| sikakraa | does anyone have an app on jolla store? Do you have anything visible in Jolla Harbour (ratings, download amounts etc)? | 09:04 |
| junnuvi | no, there is just some example data | 09:05 |
| Nicd- | yeah | 09:05 |
| sikakraa | ok, good. Then I'm not alone :P | 09:05 |
| junnuvi | or maybe data on store is not valid and there is just nobosy using our apps :P | 09:06 |
| junnuvi | nobody | 09:07 |
| william_ | hi guys,on nexus 4,sailfish os how to install apps? | 09:07 |
| sikakraa | Might be, but when using the phone's Jolla store app, there are some statistics, comments etc | 09:07 |
| Stskeeps | william_: store support comes later | 09:07 |
| william_ | thanks,Stskeeps | 09:08 |
| junnuvi | sikakraa: yes, that data seems to be valid | 09:08 |
| william_ | when I watch the archive of sailfish os for nexus 4,I found the binary 'apk-install',why can not install Android apk on nexus4? | 09:10 |
| Stskeeps | william_: part of the OS to enable easy icons for android icons | 09:10 |
| Stskeeps | apps | 09:10 |
| Yaniel | because alien dalvik is not there? | 09:10 |
| william_ | oh | 09:11 |
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| Yaniel | afaik the nexus port is lacking the dalvik vm because that is a deal they made for the jolla (it is proprietary sw after all) | 09:12 |
| Stskeeps | all rumours, we just don't have it provided (at the moment!) because it costs | 09:13 |
| Stskeeps | like mp3 codecs, xt9, here, etc, would cost.. | 09:13 |
| Yaniel | well, pretty much that ^^ | 09:14 |
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| william_ | Stskeeps: I have broswered the archive of sailfish os for nexus 4,no place to find the file to adjust the sailfishos keyboard to solve missing Chinese word | 09:17 |
| Stskeeps | william_: correct | 09:17 |
| william_ | correct? | 09:17 |
| Stskeeps | it's part of the jolla keyboar | 09:17 |
| Stskeeps | d | 09:17 |
| Stskeeps | and the xt9/word completiton isn't installed | 09:17 |
| william_ | why not? | 09:18 |
| Yaniel | Stskeeps | like mp3 codecs, xt9, here, etc, would cost.. | 09:18 |
| william_ | sad | 09:18 |
| ln- | can one currently/soon install sailfish easily on something like Cubieboard? | 09:18 |
| Yaniel | keep in mind that they are practically developing the OS for free | 09:18 |
| Stskeeps | ln-: it should be fairly trivial in future.. | 09:19 |
| william_ | Stskeeps: this id not a good news for Asia user | 09:19 |
| ln- | ok, cool | 09:19 |
| Stskeeps | william_: yes, we discussed this yesterday | 09:20 |
| Stskeeps | i said very clearly that this is just the start :) we want to get the basics right, then more user friendly things come | 09:20 |
| Stskeeps | such as china support, mp3, and so on | 09:20 |
| william_ | Stskeeps:yeah | 09:20 |
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| leszek | hi | 09:21 |
| william_ | Stskeeps: just I wanna join to solve the problem as a part | 09:22 |
| Stskeeps | william_: yes | 09:22 |
| Stskeeps | william_: is there anything like open source chinese word dictionaries? | 09:22 |
| william_ | stardict dictionaries,maybe | 09:23 |
| * Stskeeps looks | 09:23 | |
| william_ | Stskeeps: why the video on EA1 of nexus4 cannot be played? | 09:25 |
| Stskeeps | william_: video codecs not installed / configured | 09:25 |
| Stskeeps | it's noted in the release notes :) | 09:25 |
| william_ | i see | 09:25 |
| william_ | Stskeeps:on sailfishos,the volume of ringtone and media can be adjusted respectively? | 09:28 |
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| stephg | william_, yesh | 09:32 |
| william_ | good news | 09:33 |
| william_ | WP can not | 09:33 |
| stephg | really? | 09:33 |
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| william_gen | wp 8.1 can,pre-Wp8.1 cannot | 09:34 |
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| vans01 | morning | 10:06 |
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| vans01 | Stskeeps, hi. I've grabbed the log after os start and grepped for the mentions of sim, so here it is http://pastebin.com/MwWmhyzX | 10:09 |
| Stskeeps | vans01: could you do grep -i sim | 10:10 |
| Stskeeps | so SIM gets matched too | 10:10 |
| vans01 | Stskeeps, it was just grep -i sim | 10:10 |
| Stskeeps | hmmm | 10:10 |
| Stskeeps | okay, that's odd | 10:10 |
| Stskeeps | do one for RIL as well | 10:10 |
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| vans01 | Ok... | 10:10 |
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| vans01 | Stskeeps, here is the new paste http://pastebin.com/MvHfGZcA | 11:20 |
| vans01 | Stskeeps, done with egrep -i 'sim|ril' | 11:20 |
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| carepack | want to support phone call testing... | 12:50 |
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| m4g0g | guys | 13:55 |
| m4g0g | how do you use oauth authorization in ur applications? | 13:55 |
| m4g0g | liboauth or something else? | 13:55 |
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| william-gen | hi,all | 14:10 |
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| locusf | m4g0g: yes, I kqOAuth | 14:14 |
| locusf | use | 14:14 |
| m4g0g | locusf: there is no kqoauth in sailfish | 14:14 |
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| william-gen | anybody from china? | 14:21 |
| Yaniel | william-gen: o persons show up every now and then | 14:22 |
| Yaniel | s/o/one or two/ | 14:22 |
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| william-gen | i am a newbie of irc,so using irc not good | 14:25 |
| william-gen | but i have used linux for more than 10 years since 1996 | 14:30 |
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| Turski | http://alexnisnevich.github.io/untrusted/ | 14:33 |
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| vesurivs | irc is easy | 14:35 |
| narchie | boo qt reference is down | 14:36 |
| stephg | Turski, excellent | 14:36 |
| william-gen | how to add person nickname in front of my sentence? | 14:37 |
| Turski | stephg: i like that too :P | 14:37 |
| Turski | currently at level 13 | 14:37 |
| stephg | hehe | 14:37 |
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| iekku | william-gen, depends on app you are using, start writing nick and press tab long enough to match nick name (if tab works) | 14:40 |
| Acce | Turski: let's make a port for sailfish of this :P | 14:40 |
| iekku | william-gen, if tab doesn't work, then you need to write it. i'm not familiar with irc clients using graphical ui, so can't help | 14:41 |
| william-gen | thanks,iekku | 14:41 |
| Turski | Acce: open your browser and that's it? | 14:41 |
| Acce | Turski: sadly, that's not it :/ | 14:43 |
| Acce | keys don't work | 14:43 |
| Acce | and the UI isn't really great on a phone as is, anyways | 14:44 |
| william-gen | turski: text MUD? | 14:44 |
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| carepack | hi | 14:50 |
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| carepack | //msg test | 14:50 |
| carepack | exit | 14:50 |
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| squidd | :O | 14:51 |
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| squidd | dont exit! | 14:51 |
| william-gen | :) | 14:52 |
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| carepack | test | 14:54 |
| squidd | test | 14:54 |
| ballock | is it normal that my sb2 is reporting BAD package signature for f2633ee0 key? | 14:54 |
| carepack | ;) | 14:54 |
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| ballock | or actually the other keys are bad too | 14:57 |
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| william-gen | maybe stskeeps can help you,ballock | 14:59 |
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| ballock | Stskeeps: ping | 15:00 |
| ballock | sb2 -t SailfishOS-armv7hl -m sdk-install -R zypper up | 15:01 |
| ballock | produces a number of | 15:01 |
| ballock | error: rpmdbNextIterator: skipping h# 101 Header V3 DSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID f2633ee0: BAD | 15:01 |
| ballock | zypper installation fails etc. | 15:01 |
| ballock | in my understanding either the key's changed or the binary is miscalculating signatures due to arch differences | 15:02 |
| Aard | ballock: did you run sb2 as root? | 15:03 |
| ballock | of courze I did! | 15:04 |
| Aard | don't, run it as unprivileged user | 15:05 |
| Aard | running it as root breaks things in interesting ways | 15:05 |
| kaltsi | ballock: that almost looks like rpmdb corruption.. to fix, run rm -f /var/lib/rpm/__db.* and rpm --rebuilddb as root in the sb2 session | 15:06 |
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| ballock | ok, checking | 15:07 |
| Aard | kaltsi: running sb2 as root (i.e., as root user, not parameter -R) leads to that kind of rpmdb corruption | 15:07 |
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| kaltsi | ballock: not as root user but using parameter -R | 15:08 |
| kaltsi | Aard: oh, didn't know that.. usually root user doesn't have sb2 targets so it can't even start one | 15:08 |
| Aard | kaltsi: i spent some very entertaining hours of debugging in france last year before I figured that out | 15:08 |
| Almindor | does /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone0/temp correspond to the CPU temperature? | 15:08 |
| kaltsi | Aard: :P | 15:08 |
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| kaltsi | Aard: I fixed a bug in sb2 session creation, where /var/run leaked outside the session, i.e. to host.. so if you were to use sb2 as root, then it might screw up the host's /var/run | 15:10 |
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| kaltsi | Aard: this has been fixed in mer:core months ago and yesterday in sailfish with the promotion that broke devel :) | 15:11 |
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| Aard | nice | 15:11 |
| ballock | Aard: you were right, user-level was enough, no need to regenerate the rpmdb | 15:13 |
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| ballock | thanks | 15:13 |
| kaltsi | I need to scribble that to my notebook about sb2 quirks | 15:14 |
| Aard | kaltsi: latest lxc now supports arm targets through qemu. main thing is probably that they don't have the acceleration with native binaries we're doing in sb2 fully figured out, but it might be worth checking what they can do already to have a sb2 alternative | 15:15 |
| kaltsi | ballock: the -R parameter for sb2 means your user is "root" in that sb2 session | 15:16 |
| kaltsi | ballock: which is what you want when you want to install packages there or something like that | 15:16 |
| kaltsi | Aard: ok I'll keep that in mind, haven't used lxc yet at all myself | 15:17 |
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| Aard | I'm running my old mer-sdk inside of lxc. and would be nice to run the arm targets directly in lxc instead of lxc+sb2 it is now | 15:20 |
| william-gen | stskeeps said xt9 input method is not opensource | 15:20 |
| Aard | and then do some accounting rules there | 15:20 |
| Aard | william-gen: he's right | 15:20 |
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| william-gen | so,sailfishos on nexus4 cannot include it | 15:21 |
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| william-gen | but qwerty keyboard in sailfishos on nexus4 cannot type asian chars | 15:23 |
| william-gen | qwerty keyboard is not xt9 | 15:24 |
| m4g0g | why there is no kqoauth in sailfish repos? | 15:26 |
| Aard | william-gen: you mean that bit where you type something on qwerty, and then chinese characters show uup? | 15:26 |
| william-gen | yes | 15:27 |
| Aard | william-gen: that bit that transforms latin characters into chinese is xt9 | 15:27 |
| william-gen | oh | 15:27 |
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| william-gen | if chinese chars can be type in,the sailfishos on nexus4 will my daily os | 15:30 |
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| Yaniel | well someone made a maliit plugin using anthy | 15:32 |
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| Yaniel | to get a japanese IME | 15:33 |
| Yaniel | it should be possible to make a plugin for typing chinese text | 15:33 |
| william-gen | in warehouse?openrepos? | 15:34 |
| Yaniel | the anthy plugin is in openrepos | 15:34 |
| Yaniel | no idea if it is available via warehouse | 15:34 |
| william-gen | i shall try it,thank Yaniel | 15:35 |
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| Almindor | when using QSettings, should I manually feed it the config-path taken out as in https://github.com/sailfish-sdk/xdg-helper/blob/master/README.qt5 ? | 15:40 |
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| avivbyo | Long time no see guys | 15:42 |
| Stskeeps | lo avivbyo | 15:42 |
| Stskeeps | how are things | 15:42 |
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| avivbyo | Great | 15:42 |
| avivbyo | except the fact that my nexus screen broke so Hebrew translation of sailfish os is temporary paused (we have no way how to test things) | 15:43 |
| Stskeeps | ah, i'm sorry to hear that | 15:43 |
| avivbyo | Guess next week i'll get it repaired , means v1 of the translation will be out at 4.30 | 15:45 |
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| william-gen | great work | 15:46 |
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| william-gen | if need me to translate something to chinese,i am glad to do | 15:48 |
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| narchie | how do I reset QT LocalStorage? I | 16:03 |
| narchie | only getting Error: database table is locked Unable to fetch row | 16:03 |
| narchie | on drop table | 16:03 |
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| Yaniel | narchie: patience | 16:09 |
| tbr | 5min... geeee | 16:09 |
| Yaniel | there are devs here, but most are probably AFK or busy with something else | 16:09 |
| narchie | just need to ping a bit ;) | 16:10 |
| tbr | narchie: that's a recipe to get verbal abuse or get ignored for good, by those people who could answer actually | 16:11 |
| tbr | this is not a kiddie ph0rumz | 16:11 |
| Yaniel | pinging is normally considered appropriate after 0.5-2h of silence ^^ | 16:11 |
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| narchie | oh all right | 16:13 |
| Nokius | Hi Sailors! | 16:13 |
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| Nokius | I try to build a Ambiance but the Qt Creator returns me an Error with a missing .ts file try to search firt online but had no luck can any one help me ? | 16:14 |
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| phaeron | ts files are translation source | 16:27 |
| phaeron | maybe you turned on i18n | 16:27 |
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| Nokius | phaeron: no eaven the templaet runs into this error :/ | 16:36 |
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| kaltsi | Nokius: can you pastebin the error and have you perhaps updated libsailfishapp yourself at some point? | 16:40 |
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| Nokius | kaltsi: http://pastebin.com/jbi1y3v5 No i did not | 16:43 |
| kaltsi | where did you get the template? | 16:44 |
| Nokius | I use the TOH Developer Kit from Jolla | 16:45 |
| kaltsi | I haven't seen the TOH developer kit templates myself, if it has them? | 16:45 |
| kaltsi | where's the download link for it :) | 16:45 |
| Nokius | I made of the template a new one | 16:45 |
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| Nokius | one sec plz | 16:46 |
| Nokius | kaltsi: http://jolla.com/the-other-half-developer-kit | 16:46 |
| Nokius | kaltsi: here u go | 16:46 |
| kaltsi | thanks, I'll quickly check it | 16:47 |
| Nokius | kaltsi: Thanks | 16:47 |
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| kaltsi | oh, who has uploaded that.. /me grumbles | 16:48 |
| Nokius | kaltsi: not me :d | 16:48 |
| kaltsi | :) | 16:48 |
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| Nokius | I saw some Ambinace on openrepos so it works .... | 16:49 |
| Nokius | ;) | 16:49 |
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| kaltsi | btw are you building it with qtcreator as a desktop project? | 16:49 |
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| Nokius | äh | 16:50 |
| kaltsi | build-template-Desktop-Debug this path sort of says so | 16:50 |
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| Nokius | kaltsi: Mh I use Data open Project | 16:51 |
| kaltsi | would it work if you configure it as sailfish project? | 16:52 |
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| Nokius | how I can change this ? | 16:54 |
| kaltsi | do you have the sailfish sdk.. the larger one? | 16:54 |
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| Nokius | yes have VB and Qt Creator | 16:55 |
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| kaltsi | ok.. when you have the project open there, go to the 'Projects' tab on the left toolbar | 16:55 |
| Nokius | Okay | 16:56 |
| Nokius | got it | 16:56 |
| kaltsi | there you can 'add kit' to it.. choose one of the sailfish kits | 16:56 |
| kaltsi | also turn off shadow building for the kit | 16:57 |
| kaltsi | from the same place where you added it | 16:57 |
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| kaltsi | did you find it? | 17:00 |
| kaltsi | if you don't turn off shadow building, the build will fail | 17:00 |
| Nokius | Yes change to Sailfisk Kit | 17:00 |
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| kaltsi | and shadow building off? | 17:02 |
| Nokius | I'm just wonering where the rpm is now :d | 17:02 |
| kaltsi | do you have arm or i486 sailfish kit selected? | 17:02 |
| Nokius | arm | 17:02 |
| leszek | Nokius: in the build directory under the rpm path I guess | 17:03 |
| kaltsi | what is your 'deploy metod'? | 17:03 |
| Nokius | ah this was wrong | 17:03 |
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| kaltsi | for ARM you can select 'deploy as RPM package' or 'Deploy by building an RPM package'.. the second one does not try to copy the packages anywhere, but it pops up a message telling you where it saved the rpm's | 17:05 |
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| Nokius | kaltsi: where i can set the folder for the rpm ? | 17:07 |
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| kaltsi | Nokius: it can't be set.. it gets built where your project is | 17:08 |
| Nokius | okay there are now folder with Relse and Debug but no rpms :/ | 17:08 |
| kaltsi | Nokius: turn off shadow building :) | 17:08 |
| kaltsi | it won't work otherwise | 17:09 |
| kaltsi | because that template is a bit buggy | 17:09 |
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| kaltsi | and after you have turned it off, the project source directory will have a subdir called RPMS which has the built rpms | 17:09 |
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| kaltsi | I'll make sure the template gets fixed | 17:10 |
| Nokius | :) | 17:11 |
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| Nokius | still wonering whats my problem now | 17:11 |
| kaltsi | what's the prob? | 17:12 |
| Nokius | looks like I try to get it to the VM now (soory my a noob in Qt ) | 17:12 |
| kaltsi | did you get the rpm's? | 17:13 |
| Nokius | no :( | 17:13 |
| kaltsi | so what happens when you do.. and what do you do to get them? | 17:13 |
| kaltsi | or to try to get them | 17:13 |
| Nokius | I guess I mast up with my kit | 17:14 |
| kaltsi | for me it worked like this: open template project: choose sailfish arm kit: turn off shadow building: select deploy from menu => I have rpm's | 17:14 |
| Nokius | if I build deplay projet it ask me to turn o the VM | 17:16 |
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| coderus | i just added dummy launch command and using Start button for getting rpm :) | 17:16 |
| kaltsi | Nokius: do you have the build engine "MerSDK" running? or is it asking to start the emulator? | 17:16 |
| Nokius | the secend | 17:17 |
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| kaltsi | then you probably have the i586 kit, not the arm kit | 17:17 |
| coderus | delete project .user file and reopen project | 17:17 |
| coderus | and choose arm | 17:18 |
| Nokius | kaltsi: coderus: try your atvise and get ones again the masseage to start the VM | 17:24 |
| kaltsi | Nokius: can you paste the compile output to pastebin... | 17:25 |
| kaltsi | the whole output please | 17:25 |
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| Nokius | AH! | 17:28 |
| Nokius | had an fial in my spec | 17:29 |
| Nokius | kaltsi: Here the output http://pastebin.com/HxUBLLpA but I still ahve no rpm feels weard | 17:33 |
| kaltsi | Nokius: you have chosen just 'build', correct? | 17:34 |
| kaltsi | Nokius: try going to the build menu and select deploy project berlin | 17:34 |
| kaltsi | Nokius: build menu as in the menu bar of qt creator | 17:35 |
| Nokius | ctrl B right= | 17:36 |
| Nokius | ? | 17:36 |
| kaltsi | no.. Deploy project Berlin | 17:36 |
| kaltsi | not just Build | 17:36 |
| kaltsi | build = compile, Deploy = compile + make package (+ sometimes copy package to a device) | 17:37 |
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| Nokius | okay looks like i found the right in the menu but now the error is in German an I dont get the point :-/ The error is during the Build / Deployment during step RPM | 17:40 |
| kaltsi | pastebin again? | 17:41 |
| Nokius | here http://pastebin.com/vyntL64a | 17:41 |
| kaltsi | you will need to select from the left toolbar another deploy method | 17:42 |
| kaltsi | above the big green "Run" triangle.. you can see the button.. from there select 'Deploy By Builing an RPM package' | 17:43 |
| kaltsi | the button may have a sailfish logo on it and it has your project name and 'debug' or 'release' | 17:43 |
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| kaltsi | then the button should have a red dot or circle on it | 17:43 |
| kaltsi | the error you got now is that it wants to deploy the package to a device, which you have not configured.. so it fails.. the other deploy method does not require a device | 17:45 |
| kaltsi | device means basically a jolla phone | 17:45 |
| Nokius | okay looks good now just a few spec erros but fix and now its here :D | 17:46 |
| kaltsi | ok.. very easy! :) | 17:47 |
| Nokius | THANKS!!! Sorry for this hard moment with me | 17:47 |
| Nokius | :) | 17:47 |
| kaltsi | hehe no problem.. the template is buggy, and I need to kick someone to fix it too | 17:47 |
| Nokius | :D | 17:50 |
| Nokius | Okay | 17:50 |
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| Nokius | kaltsi: on last question did u try to install the Ambiance rpm Gallerie is not showing my … will try now the templeat one | 17:54 |
| kaltsi | Nokius: no I did not.. | 17:55 |
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| Nokius | kaltsi: will try fist the template before geting the horse wild | 17:55 |
| kaltsi | :) | 17:55 |
| kaltsi | I don't know how ambiences work really, but I'd first check that all your files match the ones that are listed in the *.ambience file | 17:57 |
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| Nokius | mh tempate is now installed but not in my gallerie … strance | 18:00 |
| kaltsi | try to restart the phone just to see if that helps | 18:00 |
| Nokius | kaltsi: btw are u working for Jolla ? (it sounds to me like this) | 18:00 |
| kaltsi | yes | 18:01 |
| Nokius | kaltsi: perfoming this miniute a reboot | 18:01 |
| Nokius | both there :D | 18:01 |
| kaltsi | reboot helped? | 18:01 |
| Nokius | yes! | 18:02 |
| kaltsi | that's probably also a problem in the template/spec file.. it probably needs to call some command when the package is installed.. more to fix in the template :) | 18:02 |
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| kaltsi | Nokius: glad to hear, can't wait to see cool ambiences :) | 18:03 |
| Nokius | :) Okay … Will put it on my openrepos rop later this night | 18:03 |
| kaltsi | do you have a link to some other ambience that's there? | 18:04 |
| Nokius | btw the sound are not settet easer had this problem also with the Limited OTH | 18:04 |
| kaltsi | hmm sorry I didn't understand that sentence | 18:04 |
| Nokius | sorry damn dyslexia | 18:05 |
| Nokius | btw. the sounds of this ambiance are not set as the have to / had this problem or I have this also with the Limmited OTH | 18:06 |
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| kaltsi | hm ok.. I'll report that too | 18:08 |
| Nokius | Not sure if its a bug or just my Jolla Phone have also some other "effect" like missing covers | 18:09 |
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| kaltsi | all right.. I'll go away now for today, cu later | 18:10 |
| Nokius | Okay THANKS CU! | 18:11 |
| Nokius | kaltsi: looks like that my Jolla has a "Sounds" isuses settings looks weard | 18:15 |
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| Nokius | kaltsi: https://openrepos.net/content/nokius/berlin-ambience | 19:13 |
| Nokius | https://openrepos.net/content/holgern/retro-ambience-theme-new-sounds | 19:13 |
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| cvp | lol | 19:17 |
| Nokius | cvp u like it :D? | 19:17 |
| cvp | i play the youtube ringtone... | 19:17 |
| Yaniel | a good comment there | 19:18 |
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| Yaniel | but should be on tjc | 19:18 |
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| satmd | I do want to disable general system sounds | 19:18 |
| satmd | but NOT the battery low sound | 19:18 |
| satmd | can I achieve that somehow? | 19:18 |
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| cvp | nokius sounds good :) but i hear to much from berlin from day to day :D | 19:19 |
| Nokius | cvp: okay did u try an install ? my Jolla have some sound setting issues :/ not sure why | 19:19 |
| cvp | nokius better is the berlin cnstruction sound what we hear every day :D | 19:19 |
| Nokius | but good to heare if it works :P | 19:20 |
| cvp | ah ok, if you like i can test it | 19:20 |
| Nokius | Thanks | 19:20 |
| Almindor | can you get the value of TARGET inside c++ sources somehow? | 19:20 |
| cvp | you are from berlin ? | 19:20 |
| Nokius | if not this ambince has a bta label :D | 19:21 |
| Nokius | beta | 19:21 |
| Almindor | or only through the argv[0] hack? | 19:21 |
| Nokius | live near the big city | 19:21 |
| cvp | where ? | 19:21 |
| Nokius | Potsdam | 19:21 |
| cvp | ah ok :) | 19:21 |
| cvp | me reinickendorf | 19:22 |
| Nokius | may we meet us alredy in afk life at cbase and Jolla nights? | 19:22 |
| cvp | or mitte | 19:22 |
| cvp | yeah sure | 19:22 |
| cvp | i am with the external batterie ;) | 19:23 |
| Nokius | ah okey did had time to visit the last two meetups may in May I have time … busy days but inaf time to play with my jolla :) | 19:23 |
| Nokius | did u 3D print the TOH? | 19:24 |
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| cvp | re ;) | 19:25 |
| cvp | no i dont print it because i dont have knowing about 3d modelling | 19:25 |
| cvp | but i try a another think | 19:25 |
| Nokius | okay which? | 19:26 |
| cvp | i destroy my poppy red toh :D | 19:26 |
| Nokius | acaly I look to print a transperent TOH Oh ... | 19:26 |
| Nokius | its a Limted ONE! ;) | 19:27 |
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| Aard | Nokius: "jolla night_s_"? I only knew about one | 19:27 |
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| mulin0 | transperent toh would be great!! | 19:30 |
| Nokius | We had a Jolla Love Day in Berlin with Live stream than the awsome meeting in Jan Feb with https://twitter.com/tbr23 and now every fisrt monday a month of course at cbase | 19:31 |
| Nokius | Yeah at least as transpent as 3D printing is … :) | 19:31 |
| Aard | Nokius: impressive. maybe I should find time to visit again at some point after all :) | 19:31 |
| * tbr waves at Nokius, glad you liked it | 19:31 | |
| Nokius | like to add as well a coil for qi | 19:32 |
| cvp | http://i57.tinypic.com/2wdse4z.jpg | 19:32 |
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| cvp | http://i59.tinypic.com/s2gy2x.jpg | 19:32 |
| cvp | i know its shocking :D | 19:32 |
| stephg | /me's shocked | 19:33 |
| cvp | its not finish ed of course :) i | 19:33 |
| stephg | hehe | 19:33 |
| Aard | it makes you the first one to have one like this | 19:33 |
| Nokius | tbr: may u reunited a community after the hard times | 19:33 |
| Nokius | cvp: :) and yes | 19:34 |
| Nokius | tbr: btw how is your battery pack project? | 19:34 |
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| Nokius | cvp: is it glue or? | 19:35 |
| cvp | uhu knete | 19:35 |
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| tbr | Nokius: mine didn't progress far, but cvp got something | 19:35 |
| cvp | http://www.hornbach.de/shop/UHU-Klebstoff-Knetmasse-endfest-58-g/4061559/artikel.html?origin=pla&WT.mc_id=de12a999&WT.srch=1 | 19:36 |
| artemma | Is there some sort of copy-pastable control for showing in-app messages? Like Tweetian messages on top of the screen? | 19:36 |
| * artemma wants something to show short non-critical error messages to | 19:36 | |
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| Nokius | cvp: may i have to find some in Hamburg since the libery there got a 3D printer this days they ofer for the next month a free trail time may some Sailor can try print there :D | 19:36 |
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| Nokius | nice way :D | 19:37 |
| cvp | nokius cool :) hope so... but i will finisch now my toh :D | 19:37 |
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| Nokius | cvp: after u killed your puppy red u have to fix this half :P | 19:38 |
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| Nokius | Aard: its in the log http://www.c-base.org/cal/month.php?cal=regular,seminare,termine&getdate=20140505 | 19:40 |
| Nokius | I away cu | 19:41 |
| Nokius | cvp: ah are the ringtones okay? | 19:41 |
| Nokius | didi u try it? | 19:41 |
| Aard | Nokius: how many people do you have there usually? | 19:41 |
| cvp | Nokius: i install it, needs a restart do find the ambience | 19:42 |
| Nokius | cvp: okay u dont have to do this | 19:42 |
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| Nokius | cvp: do u know the number of atentince from the last Sailfish meetup at cbasce? | 19:43 |
| Nokius | Aard: I m not in charce of this events | 19:44 |
| cvp | dam cant test it, cant call me self | 19:44 |
| Nokius | cvp: me too :P | 19:45 |
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| Nokius | have to get my asterisk up again ….. | 19:45 |
| cvp | than call me :p | 19:45 |
| Nokius | :D | 19:45 |
| Nokius | need to get my lunch for to morrow and some sleep now :D | 19:46 |
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| Aard | that early? | 19:46 |
| Nokius | Yes have to be at 7 t work :) | 19:47 |
| Nokius | <— away | 19:47 |
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| m4g0g | guys | 19:47 |
| m4g0g | where I should store database? | 19:48 |
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| m4g0g | in local/share or in config? | 19:48 |
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| Aard | m4g0g: does it contain configuration, or user data? | 19:50 |
| m4g0g | it container accesstoken for oauth authorization | 19:50 |
| m4g0g | contains* | 19:50 |
| Aard | sounds like data -> $XDG_DATA_HOME | 19:51 |
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| cvp | http://i60.tinypic.com/1t8th5.jpg ---------- http://i57.tinypic.com/2dt4y7p.jpg ------and------ http://i62.tinypic.com/2eb61pj.jpg | 19:51 |
| cvp | ^^ | 19:51 |
| m4g0g | Aard: it means ~/.local/share | 19:52 |
| m4g0g | ? | 19:52 |
| Aard | m4g0g: no, it means $XDG_DATA_HOME :p you _must_ check if XDG_DATA_HOME is set (if you're using qt, it does that for you), and if it's not that, you fall back to ~/.local/share | 19:53 |
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| cvp | microusb for charging is missing, will come if i finish the toh part | 19:53 |
| Aard | m4g0g: see http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5/qstandardpaths.html | 19:54 |
| m4g0g | Aard QStandardPaths::DataLocation - is this? | 19:55 |
| Aard | m4g0g: most likely, yes. this will give you a path with application data already appended, so you just write in that directory | 19:56 |
| cvp | Nokius: what you mean with number of atentince ? | 19:56 |
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| Aard | a/win 25 | 19:56 |
| cvp | tbr: you know how i can boost the volume if i call with some one or in music a headset is connected !? | 20:00 |
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| tbr | cvp: volume is limited to controls AFAIU | 20:03 |
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| cvp | after last update is the volumen lower than before :( | 20:05 |
| tbr | cvp: orly? | 20:06 |
| cvp | the call colume was before ouder than know | 20:06 |
| cvp | volume | 20:06 |
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| cvp | *louder | 20:09 |
| rapscallion | Qt is C++ right? | 20:10 |
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| artemma | rapscallion: mostly. For simple apps you can use QML 90% of time | 20:10 |
| artemma | or python even | 20:11 |
| artemma | QML is declarative language for UI + JavaScript for logic | 20:11 |
| rapscallion | hmm, C++ or JS | 20:14 |
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| Acce | if you're doing some heavy processing or some logic you want to obfuscate, c++, if something else JS | 20:17 |
| artemma | rapscallion: you will need at least a tiny bit of C++ for a wrapper. A lot of other stuff can be done in QML/JS | 20:17 |
| artemma | you will need to go to C++ only for optimization and for some interactions with system for which there are no declarative wrappers. E.g. if you want to write to files | 20:18 |
| rapscallion | I'm trying to see if Go might be feasible | 20:18 |
| rapscallion | Since the compiler supports ARM Linux | 20:19 |
| artemma | oversimplifying: if you can think your app could work as HTML5 app, you probably can make it in pure QML/JS | 20:19 |
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| Acce | humm, you would need qt bindings for Go, do thry exists? | 20:19 |
| rapscallion | and there are library bindings for Qt | 20:19 |
| rapscallion | I'm not sure how good they are | 20:19 |
| Acce | you could always try, then | 20:20 |
| Acce | maybe it works as well as python | 20:20 |
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| rapscallion | I'm betting Qt is one of many things sailfish apps depend on though | 20:20 |
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| Acce | not really, they only depend on qt afaik | 20:21 |
| rapscallion | about this VM compiling voodoo stuff | 20:21 |
| rapscallion | is it some kind of deal similar to Java where the code is compiled into bytecode rather than assembly | 20:21 |
| Acce | that's just to make crosdcompiling on all platforms simple | 20:22 |
| Acce | no java involved | 20:22 |
| Acce | you can actually run the compiler on native linux installation for faster build | 20:23 |
| rapscallion | oh I get it now | 20:23 |
| rapscallion | this is to avoid dealing with mingw and whatnot | 20:23 |
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| artemma | except that on native linux installation then it's your problem to make sure correct libs and compilers and whatnot are installed and endianness is correct, etc :) | 20:24 |
| artemma | VM takes care of it by having a fixed environment on whatever the host machine is | 20:24 |
| rapscallion | word | 20:26 |
| Acce | artemma: yeah, but you can just copy everything from the vm and use chroot :) | 20:26 |
| artemma | Acce: some of us use Windows. And whatnot :) | 20:27 |
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| * artemma is on mac and still happy he doesn't need to even start thinking on what chroot is | 20:27 | |
| cvp | a germany how to lean qt on sailfish was cool :D | 20:27 |
| Acce | yes, I'm just glad I can develop even on my netbook now :D it was horribly slow with the vm | 20:28 |
| artemma | oh, so it actually works this way. Cool, Acce! | 20:28 |
| rapscallion | what exactly does the SDK use to run the VM? | 20:28 |
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| artemma | Acce: you may like to make a blog post on it ;) I guess many people could give it a try for speeding things up. And if it doesn't work, you can still use VM | 20:29 |
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| artemma | rapscallion: VmWare | 20:29 |
| Aard | Acce: I still use a mer-sdk based chroot nowadays in lxc, updated from an initial bootstrap from early 2012 | 20:29 |
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| rapscallion | did anyone test it with qemu/kvm | 20:29 |
| Aard | rapscallion: should be working, only emulator is problematic due to window size | 20:30 |
| Aard | internally we do automated testruns inside of kvm | 20:30 |
| rapscallion | scratch that, does qemu even virtualize arm? | 20:30 |
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| Acce | artemma: actually I did it with someone elses blogpost, so it's already out there :) | 20:30 |
| rapscallion | i'm in over my head | 20:30 |
| Aard | rapscallion: sb2 uses arm binaries, with qemu + binfmt-misc | 20:31 |
| Aard | you'll just loose more performance if you do it inside of qemu/kvm | 20:31 |
| artemma | rapscallion: SDK way (without qemu) is actually i486 build of device | 20:31 |
| rapscallion | oh right, cross compiling. | 20:31 |
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| Acce | artemma: this here, actually https://katastrophos.net/andre/blog/2014/03/29/running-sailfishos-build-engine-outside-virtualbox-vm/ | 20:34 |
| artemma | Acce: thx | 20:34 |
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| artemma | now i only need to wait for somebody to try things on mac :) | 20:35 |
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| * artemma enjoys developing next app with log4qt logging. A nice feeling when you use an own example developed for public and.. it actually does make things easier :) | 21:47 | |
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| kengu | artemma: cool (: | 22:27 |
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