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| pratik | hello | 03:28 |
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| Zesty_ | hey | 03:36 |
| pratik | I'm from India and i own a nexus 4, i can test alpha builds of sailfish, cn i be an early adopter? | 03:48 |
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| virtuald | pratik: ask later, european working hours. | 04:16 |
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| leszek | hi | 10:56 |
| Stskeeps | hewwo | 10:56 |
| tj______ | ko | 11:03 |
| carepack | the os looks so great | 11:03 |
| Stskeeps | thanks, a lot of love went into it | 11:04 |
| carepack | you can see this :-) | 11:04 |
| carepack | watched the the video silfish on sgs3 4g. beautiful | 11:05 |
| Stskeeps | indeed | 11:06 |
| Stskeeps | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H08xR8XvGds&feature=youtu.be for the rest | 11:06 |
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| carepack | yes. that's the one I watched :-) looks so great. How many jolla's had been sold worldwide until now? | 11:13 |
| Stskeeps | that's not public information, sorry :) | 11:13 |
| carepack | sure. no problem. | 11:14 |
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| Acce | I saw some news that said that Jolla has bookings for some hundred thousands of phones for this spring | 11:15 |
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| carepack | source? Because stskeeps said that's not a public information. | 11:16 |
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| Acce | carepack: http://www.kauppalehti.fi/etusivu/jolla+tilauskirjat+taynna/201403661142 | 11:18 |
| Acce | hope you can read Finnish :) | 11:19 |
| carepack | lol..... far away from it. maybe google translator can help... | 11:19 |
| carepack | thank you! | 11:20 |
| Acce | no problem! | 11:20 |
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| rusty88 | hey guys, i've been following the status of sailfish on the galaxy s3 (since I have one) and I'm wondering when there will be a ROM to install it | 11:28 |
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| Stskeeps | rusty88: send sledges a message with your name/e-mail and devices you have, to sign up as early adopter | 11:29 |
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| johnnny364 | hello | 11:38 |
| Stskeeps | hello | 11:39 |
| carepack | hi | 11:39 |
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| mailyaseen | hello | 13:15 |
| mailyaseen | hi Sledges | 13:15 |
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| Hitorijanae | hello | 13:15 |
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| mailyaseen | Syed Yaseen, mailyaseen@gmail.com | 13:16 |
| mailyaseen | Hi sledges | 13:16 |
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| sledges | mailyaseen: sorry you had to PM me your email instead, as per instructions ;) | 13:29 |
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| mailyaseen | hi sledges, please find my details..Name : Syed Yaseen, Email : mailyaseen@gmail.com. | 13:31 |
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| Nicd- | mailyaseen: PM means private message | 13:32 |
| Nicd- | mailyaseen: so /msg sledges <your_message> | 13:32 |
| sledges | thanks Nicd- | 13:32 |
| mailyaseen | thanks sledges | 13:33 |
| mailyaseen | thanks Nicd- | 13:33 |
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| cos- | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhyZaM3B2Rk | 14:01 |
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| euroelessar | cos-: cool | 14:03 |
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| zhxt_home | hello | 14:17 |
| zhxt_home | finally , I got a Jolla Phone on my hand, haha | 14:17 |
| Stskeeps | woo | 14:17 |
| Shaan7 | woot! | 14:17 |
| Shaan7 | zhxt_home: drop it and see if its as robust as Nokia :D | 14:18 |
| zhxt_home | but just for only this weekend :( | 14:18 |
| zhxt_home | borrowed from my colleague. | 14:18 |
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| zhxt_home | Shaan7: haha, I also want to know, but I think my colleague will kill me then. :P | 14:20 |
| zhxt_home | Sailfish OS is really cool! | 14:21 |
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| zhxt_home | http://img.susepaste.org/25452101 :P | 14:29 |
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| sensei | Hey sledges ! | 14:30 |
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| Wnt | Has anyone worked on getting OpenVPN run on Sailfish? | 14:33 |
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| zhxt_home | It says "Problem with installing jolla-develope-mode" when I enable developer mode, what can I do with this ? | 14:37 |
| Nicd- | hope you didn't touch the developer updates button | 14:37 |
| zhxt_home | uhmmm,,, I'm afraid I did... | 14:38 |
| Stskeeps | then it's factory reset time | 14:38 |
| Stskeeps | Wnt: isn't there together.* guides on this | 14:38 |
| zhxt_home | ah... | 14:38 |
| Nicd- | Stskeeps: couldn't one fix it by trying to log in to dev updates as 'jolla@sales' or something? | 14:39 |
| Wnt | Stskeeps: didn't try searching there yet | 14:39 |
| Stskeeps | Nicd-: you can but to be safe.. | 14:40 |
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| zhxt_home | Stskeeps: only in this way? | 14:40 |
| Stskeeps | zhxt_home: you can possibly try to log in with jolla@sales and reboot | 14:41 |
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| Wnt | Stskeeps: thanks for the pointer! seems that it's pretty easy to install OpenVPN on the device https://together.jolla.com/question/305/vpn-client/#post-id-311 and someone is already working on a GUI: https://together.jolla.com/question/11324/bug-connman-openvpn/#post-id-35045 | 14:43 |
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| zhxt_home | Stskeeps: I'll try next time, now reseting... | 14:44 |
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| zhxt_home | how long it will take to enable dev mode, the progressbar is looping infinately. | 14:52 |
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| Yaniel | it shouldn't take more than a couple of minutes | 14:52 |
| Yaniel | but you need internet access | 14:53 |
| Yaniel | (it installs fingerterm) | 14:53 |
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| Zehlek | Hello all | 14:54 |
| zhxt_home | oops, I thik I forget one thing, I haven't connect to my wifi, after reset. | 14:54 |
| zhxt_home | thx, Yaniel | 14:54 |
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| zhxt_home | It have no info prompt me to connect when it was offline mode. | 14:58 |
| zhxt_home | s/have/has/ | 14:58 |
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| coderus | cant switch qtcreator deploy target | 15:00 |
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| coderus | if i change ip of existing target everything works | 15:02 |
| coderus | but if i add another target i cant switch it | 15:02 |
| zhxt_home | now the progressbar does not looping, just one dot line. is this right? | 15:02 |
| coderus | it still trying to deploy to first one | 15:02 |
| Stskeeps | hello Zehlek | 15:03 |
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| Zehlek | Hi Stskeeps | 15:04 |
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| Stskeeps | so what brings you to #sailfishos | 15:05 |
| Zehlek | I'm very interested in joining testing team for Nexus 4 | 15:05 |
| Stskeeps | /msg sledges with your name, e-mail and devices you have, and why you'd like to | 15:06 |
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| Zehlek | Already spoken to him on Hangout yesterday, all setup :) | 15:07 |
| Stskeeps | ah, good | 15:08 |
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| zhxt_home | hi, Stskeeps, woluld you please explain me how to login with jollas@sales ? and what is the pwd? | 15:08 |
| Stskeeps | zhxt_home: just put some bullshit password in, it just makes sure it switches to the right thing | 15:08 |
| zhxt_home | Stskeeps: ok, thx, going to try | 15:09 |
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| * kontio wonders how many user now put bullshit as password... | 15:13 | |
| zhxt_home | uhmm, It seems blocked in dev mode Page, just one dot dot ... line , with "enabling develope mode" in the center. | 15:13 |
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| Stskeeps | well did you reboot afterwards | 15:14 |
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| zhxt_home | Stskeeps:oh, no, I'll have a try. | 15:16 |
| Almindor | how do you debug on the jolla phone? I always get debugger fail error (no details), even tho running the app works fine | 15:17 |
| zhxt_home | I haven't connected to it yet......... | 15:18 |
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| Almindor | I had to use wlan connection with ubuntu | 15:18 |
| Almindor | I think it has to do with USB permissions | 15:18 |
| Almindor | better anyways, at least I can disconnect the cable | 15:19 |
| zhxt_home | I got some problem when open developer mode. I think. | 15:20 |
| coderus | afaik debug is broken | 15:20 |
| zhxt_home | I use openSUSE, connected with usb. | 15:20 |
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| CallMeAldy | Hey devs | 15:24 |
| CallMeAldy | Any news for mako? | 15:24 |
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| Stskeeps | /msg sledges with your name, e-mail and devices you have, and why you'd like to -- we're doing early adopter signup atm | 15:25 |
| CallMeAldy | I did that earlier | 15:25 |
| Stskeeps | good :) | 15:25 |
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| Stskeeps | we're just getting some things done currently and will reach out to all early adopters | 15:26 |
| CallMeAldy | Hope i'll be lucky :) | 15:27 |
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| zhxt_home | Any new devices added ? like note 3, :P | 15:27 |
| Stskeeps | we'll do three things | 15:27 |
| Stskeeps | mako, samsung galaxy s iii lte images (official adaptations) and a hardware adaptation development kit | 15:27 |
| Stskeeps | so if it runs cyanogenmod 10.1, it can likely be ported to that device too | 15:27 |
| Almindor | so debugger is broken even on jolla phone? | 15:28 |
| Almindor | is it a device problem or gdb/arm problem, or some sort of symbols fail? | 15:28 |
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| zhxt_home | that progressbar looping infinately again, more that ten minutes now, | 15:35 |
| Stskeeps | anyway, that's the cause of using that :P | 15:35 |
| Wnt | Almindor: I don't know what prevents the debugger from not working, but Juha Kallioinen from Jolla reported on the devel mailing list that it should work in a future release of the SDK | 15:35 |
| Almindor | Wnt: thanks for the info | 15:36 |
| zhxt_home | Stskeeps: but a littile different. the gab between dot dot geting larger. | 15:37 |
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| zhxt_home | I hope it's a good sign. | 15:37 |
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| coderus | 3~still no luck with share plugin =( | 15:39 |
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| GioScino | hello to all | 16:30 |
| flotron | Stskeeps: HW adaptation KIT>Nitdroid>CyanogenMod>N9 with a real Sailfish? | 16:33 |
| tbr | flotron: wtf... | 16:33 |
| flotron | could be possible? | 16:34 |
| flotron | with that HW adapt kit? | 16:34 |
| Nightmare__ | uploaded a new Version of TabaTimer including 3 Ring TimePickers :) https://openrepos.net/content/nightmare/tabatimer | 16:36 |
| tbr | flotron: I guess you have no understanding of the lower workings, right? | 16:37 |
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| flotron | you are right, so you mean: ridiculous | 16:41 |
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| tbr | flotron: well, the only possibly interesting thing would be the SGX driver user land, but that is completely independent of nitdroid. | 16:48 |
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| slarti | Is this where all the TMO people hang out these days? | 16:58 |
| Stskeeps | not all of them .. :P | 16:59 |
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| slarti | I was lead to believe that this is where I might find some sailfish love for my SGS3? | 17:00 |
| Stskeeps | well, send sledges a /msg with your name, email, devices and why you'd like to | 17:01 |
| slarti | ok, thanks! | 17:02 |
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| zhxt_ | haha, finally got dev mode worked. :D | 17:11 |
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| Tumeezi | Anyone Jolla engineer wake up? | 19:39 |
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| Tumeezi | My phone don't say anything if I double tap screen... | 19:40 |
| tbr | try #jollamobile | 19:40 |
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| lomo | Hi everybody. I'm interested in trying SailfishOS on my SG SIII (I9300). Any chance to get some beta/alpha version? | 21:27 |
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| Stskeeps | lomo: you can sign up with a message to sledges with your name / devices / why you'd like to | 21:28 |
| Stskeeps | but be aware that it's i9305 we've done work on | 21:28 |
| Tumeezi | lomo Oh yes, send 10e in my bank ;) | 21:28 |
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| Stskeeps | lomo: i9300 might be feasible once we publish the hardware adaptation developer kit | 21:30 |
| Stskeeps | or Haddock.. | 21:30 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 21:30 |
| Tumeezi | Stskeeps Can I install SF to SGS2+? | 21:30 |
| lomo | Stskeeps: yeah, I've seen you are porting to I9305, I just hope it would be possible to try it out on I9300 as well. | 21:31 |
| Stskeeps | Tumeezi: perhaps in the future.. does it have cyanogenmod 10.1? | 21:31 |
| Tumeezi | Stskeeps I don't know.. I can check if it possible | 21:31 |
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| lomo | Stskeeps: Does/will the SailfishOS build for non-jolla devices include alien dalvik or is alien dalvik limited to Jolla only ? | 21:33 |
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| flotron | i9300 support CM10.1 | 21:35 |
| Stskeeps | lomo: right now it's a jolla device only offering, let's see what the future brings of opportunities | 21:35 |
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| flotron | the only difference between i9300 and i9305 is LTE i think | 21:35 |
| Tumeezi | i9105 is SGS2+ | 21:36 |
| Tumeezi | Can anyone check if it support cm10? | 21:36 |
| flotron | check out you: wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Devices#cmversions="10.1","10.2","11","11.0"; | 21:36 |
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| Guhl | what exactly is your criteria for "does it have cm 10.1" | 21:38 |
| Stskeeps | ideally official cm as unofficial is sometimes a pain in the ass | 21:39 |
| Guhl | there are cm10.1, .2 and cm11 builds for the i9105 | 21:39 |
| Tumeezi | Guhl [23:31] <@Stskeeps> Tumeezi: perhaps in the future.. does it have cyanogenmod 10.1? | 21:39 |
| Tumeezi | Yes it is? | 21:39 |
| flotron | Stskeeps: alien dalvik is not present because some license or strategy reason? | 21:40 |
| Stskeeps | flotron: long story, but we're just beginning this journey of sailfishos on existing android devices; things may change | 21:41 |
| Stskeeps | it's not in the image we have at the moment for the devices | 21:41 |
| Stskeeps | but not saying it's a impossibility to run android runtime | 21:41 |
| Stskeeps | as in, get the base system working well, than add the candy :P | 21:42 |
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| lomo | Stskeeps: some features must be Jolla only to support sales :-) | 21:42 |
| Stskeeps | but now it's time to sleep | 21:43 |
| lomo | Stskeeps: anyway having alien dalvik would nicely speed up migrations to SailfishOS for many users | 21:43 |
| flotron | Stskeeps: Great! you always thinking in all the possibilities :) | 21:43 |
| Guhl | Tumeezi, yes i read that question. official CM10.1 exists for the i9100 but not for the i9105 | 21:46 |
| Tumeezi | Hmm.. It mean what? | 21:46 |
| Guhl | that it's not officially supported by cm but there are device, vendor and kernel repos for the i9105 that allow building cm10.1 for it | 21:48 |
| Guhl | but as i do not know what exactly is important for it to support sailfish os i asked what that question meant | 21:50 |
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| Guhl | btw. I am new to sailfish os but am a quite experienced unix/linx developer and would have a question | 21:51 |
| netzvieh | Tumeezi: you could take the adaption dev kit and try it yourself ;) | 21:51 |
| Guhl | is there a guide somewhere on how to build sailfish os from sources ? | 21:51 |
| netzvieh | Guhl: sailfish isn't completely open source (atleast lipstick and other gui stuff iirc) | 21:52 |
| tbr | Guhl: depends on which aspect. a lot can be learned from the mer wiki | 21:52 |
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| Guhl | well i take everything i can get - i probably just need a starting point | 21:53 |
| tbr | Guhl: for a new device you should look at hardware adaptation and kickstart files. | 21:54 |
| Guhl | i would be building for a jolla | 21:54 |
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| tbr | although I'm not sure how this new thing will work and if it uses kickstart | 21:54 |
| Guhl | i am used to build everything i run on my pc/devices from sources | 21:55 |
| tbr | I'm not sure if the jolla hw adaptation packaging is open source. Jolla has a bit of a quirky sense of humor and requires a written source code request on paper and sends back a dvd... | 21:56 |
| tbr | hmm that came out wrong. I'm not sure if it's publicly available. | 21:56 |
| Guhl | are the binaries for drivers, etc publicly available? | 21:57 |
| tbr | and yes, a lot of the hardware adptation is binary | 21:57 |
| M4rtinK | tbr: IIRC Nokia was also doing the same send-a-DVD thing | 21:57 |
| M4rtinK | tbr: no idea why Jolla also does that | 21:58 |
| M4rtinK | tbr: maybe some legal loophole ? :) | 21:58 |
| tbr | they are on your device, they are not available for public download due to licensing. | 21:58 |
| tbr | Qualcomm tends to be a b*tch in that respect | 21:58 |
| Guhl | OK, same think as on the android devices | 21:58 |
| Guhl | thing | 21:58 |
| tbr | well the hardware is essentially an android device | 21:58 |
| tbr | it's just not running android | 21:59 |
| tbr | M4rtinK: for me that's just bad style. *shrug* | 21:59 |
| Guhl | and thats the good thing about it | 21:59 |
| M4rtinK | tbr: yep, exactly the same impression it has on me | 21:59 |
| Raim | tbr: someone requested the kernel sources and uploaded them here: https://github.com/KonstaT/sailfishos_kernel_jolla_msm8930 | 22:01 |
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| Raim | besides the cfg80211 module, everything should be in there | 22:01 |
| Guhl | thats a starting point | 22:02 |
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| tbr | Raim: is that update4? | 22:04 |
| tbr | given latest commit 1 month ago, no | 22:05 |
| Raim | tbr: no, last update in february | 22:05 |
| tbr | also there are at least two closed source kernel modules | 22:06 |
| tbr | wifi and some aliendalvik shim | 22:06 |
| Raim | also, here is an official statement from Jolla on kernel sources: https://together.jolla.com/question/6778/request-publish-recent-kernel-sources-perhaps-even-with-git/ | 22:06 |
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| tbr | Raim: yes, this aligns with what I said. why insisting on following the full process is beyond me. It's not that hard to upload or torrent an .iso in *addition* to offering the full legal process. | 22:10 |
| Raim | as long as at least one persons asks for each kernel release they still have to prepare it anyway | 22:10 |
| tbr | yes, but there is considerable delay, and the due process allows for substantial delays | 22:11 |
| Guhl | well i'll send them a request. the more dvd's they have to send the more motivation they'll have to think about something that makes more sense | 22:11 |
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| ArkkisN | Hey! Is there a Sailfish rom available for SGS3? | 23:14 |
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