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| AL13N | Acce: Turski: maybe related: https://together.jolla.com/question/26605/howto-install-a-chroot-for-building-apps/ | 06:52 |
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| Juuba | anyone working on headphone sets' buttons? is it even something the community can implement? | 07:03 |
| Stskeeps | Juuba: wired headphone? | 07:05 |
| Juuba | yeah | 07:05 |
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| Stskeeps | so long story short it comes down to input devices going to the compositor from what i understood | 07:06 |
| Stskeeps | lemme check bugs | 07:06 |
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| Juuba | i mean the microphone works and I can listen to music. But the buttons, volume nor the "middle" (to answer the calls or whatnot) do not work. | 07:12 |
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| Juuba | from https://together.jolla.com/question/2771/please-add-support-for-wired-headset-buttons/ i found a command to "watch -n 0,2 "dmesg | tail -20" | 07:17 |
| Juuba | and when I press the middle button it shows something | 07:17 |
| Juuba | volume buttons did not | 07:17 |
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| Juuba | Apple EarPods with Remote and Mic | 07:19 |
| jonni | most likely current kernel is lacking support for anything else than the dummy onebutton headsets. | 07:20 |
| AL13N | probably | 07:21 |
| AL13N | though i had figured the volume ones would just do the volume themselves and the button go to the 4th wire | 07:21 |
| Juuba | when I connect the headphones they are detected | 07:22 |
| Juuba | and I can listen and talk thru the mic just fine | 07:22 |
| Juuba | just the buttons do not work | 07:22 |
| inffy_ | there is also the two different "standards" on those | 07:24 |
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| inffy_ | AHJ and something else, can't remember | 07:24 |
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| Juuba | yeah, but from reading the questions, I believe this "apple" standard is supported | 07:24 |
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| inffy_ | i remember reading that from somewhere too | 07:25 |
| inffy_ | but i guess it's not fully working then | 07:25 |
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| Juuba | Answer from Jolla care : " Jolla use type "AHJ" audio jack - commonly used in Apple, Samsung and lately Nokia devices (though some Lumia models may use a different standard). Jolla is not as compatible with type "NHJ" audio jacks. " | 07:26 |
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| inffy_ | oh well, i have never got those AHJ standard (or iphone headsets) to work with android, so i guess its not so easy :P | 07:27 |
| Juuba | ;) | 07:27 |
| Juuba | these "Earpods" just fit me perfectly.. I've tried multiple in-ear plugs, normala plugs etc... | 07:28 |
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| Juuba | + they've lasted for over 1 year already, other's break in my use under one year | 07:28 |
| Juuba | :D | 07:28 |
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| inffy_ | i have "bad ears" so those earpods won't fit on my ears, they fall off constantly | 07:30 |
| inffy_ | i have the Bluebuds X wireless bt headset now, little expensive but they are good | 07:31 |
| flux | there are these elacin-brand custom earplugs, those are excellent though a bit on the expensive side | 07:31 |
| Juuba | yeah, it's mostly (somewhat expensive" trial and error | 07:31 |
| Juuba | I dont believe any store allows you to try those on :) | 07:31 |
| Juuba | hygiene and what not :D | 07:31 |
| inffy_ | overrated :D | 07:31 |
| Juuba | of course custom made mold and plugs would be perfect | 07:31 |
| inffy_ | yup | 07:32 |
| Juuba | but on the other hand, i would not want perfect fitting, outside noise blocking plugs | 07:32 |
| Juuba | dangerous to walk on the streets in finland if you dont hear anything | 07:32 |
| flux | what is wrong with you?-) | 07:32 |
| flux | just be observant and move your head! | 07:32 |
| flux | ie. prefer straight movement and when deviating from it, watch where you're going | 07:33 |
| Juuba | cyclicst blast by max speed | 07:33 |
| Juuba | yeah | 07:33 |
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| mars99 | Stskeeps, if use camera example of released libhybris to implement camera in android device ,is it difficult? | 07:33 |
| Juuba | still, safer if you hear something outside | 07:33 |
| Juuba | anyways, thats's just me | 07:34 |
| flux | but impossible to get good bass without closed plugs? | 07:34 |
| Juuba | i'm not that much a hifi-nerd, i get good enough | 07:34 |
| AL13N | Juuba: http://forums.wpcentral.com/windows-phone-8-guides-how-tos/249287-note-headset-standards-omtp-ahj-apple.html | 07:34 |
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| Juuba | jolla != WP8 | 07:35 |
| flux | also with closed plugs you don't need to use so high volumes | 07:35 |
| AL13N | "Apple's non-standard signalling and control method means many designed for iPhone headsets are incompatible with other devices. In general the audio out and one button control on such headsets will work, but the audio-in (microphone) and volume controls will not." | 07:35 |
| Juuba | oh ok | 07:35 |
| Juuba | so the Jolla volume control should work? | 07:35 |
| m4g0g | morning | 07:36 |
| Juuba | and the buttons to answer and reply? | 07:36 |
| Juuba | funny enoug, the MIC WORKS | 07:36 |
| Juuba | wnough* | 07:36 |
| Juuba | e* | 07:36 |
| m4g0g | I want to create C++ library for sailfish but when I try to create rpm package via qtcreator I get error. I am new with rpm. Can you help me? | 07:36 |
| m4g0g | this is output: | 07:37 |
| AL13N | plz use a pastebin | 07:37 |
| m4g0g | I use | 07:38 |
| m4g0g | but my embeded pastebin doesn't work | 07:38 |
| m4g0g | try one moe | 07:38 |
| m4g0g | http://codepad.org/XipMiMdE | 07:38 |
| m4g0g | it's better | 07:38 |
| m4g0g | I am remove all sailfish lines from yaml file and in Files section use only one %{_libdir}/nemo-transferengine/plugins | 07:39 |
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| inffy_ | Juuba: i guess that means that the apple headset (earpods) will not work with Jolla, as it is not the AHJ standard | 07:43 |
| Stskeeps | uh, no | 07:43 |
| Stskeeps | we're AHJ standard afaik | 07:43 |
| inffy_ | i meant the apple headphones are not full AHJ | 07:44 |
| inffy_ | Apple uses a similar connector arrangement, but uses a non-standard microphone and control signalling method. | 07:44 |
| Juuba | okay, so "strictly" AHJ shoudl work? is the volume changing and button-answering implemented currently? | 07:44 |
| m4g0g | any ideas? | 07:44 |
| Juuba | I can listen and talk thru the earpods, middle button sends something to the "log" at least :D | 07:45 |
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| Juuba | i'm just wondering, if the support is finalized, if these wont work, I shoud go and buy proper headphones | 07:45 |
| Juuba | or if the implementation is not yet complete, and I should wait | 07:45 |
| inffy_ | well i think the middle button sends that "non-standar signal method" so Jolla doesn't understand it | 07:46 |
| * Stskeeps hits bugzilla | 07:46 | |
| Juuba | do other types of headphone buttons work ? still no reply on that question :D | 07:46 |
| inffy_ | dunno :/ | 07:47 |
| jonni | Juuba: currently volume buttons will not work like it has been answered many times in this channel already. | 07:48 |
| Juuba | ok, and the "button to answer" ? | 07:48 |
| Juuba | I havent been on channel for long, a week or so only | 07:49 |
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| jonni | answer button most likely can be captured from /dev/input/event5 but afaik that event doesnt come though qevent yet. | 07:49 |
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| Juuba | ok, so none of the "hands-free earphones" work.. ok thanks, so I will hold on with my purchase of new earphones | 07:50 |
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| Juuba | volume setting is not that much of a problem.. would like to be able to pause/play and answer with the middle button, but ... oh well, thanks jonni | 07:50 |
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| jonni | with bluetooth headset they might work, but I havent checked lately. | 07:51 |
| jonni | but for wired headset you need to wait and hope for sw update. | 07:51 |
| inffy_ | works with my bt-headset | 07:51 |
| Juuba | yeah | 07:51 |
| cos- | is there any solution for syncing calendar with thunderbird & jolla? i used google calendar on harmattan but afaik it's not supported (yet?) | 07:52 |
| Nicd- | google calendar is supported one way | 07:52 |
| Juuba | one way google calendar works (google -> phone) | 07:52 |
| jonni | cos-: one way sync works, 2-way sync is coming in some future sw update... :) | 07:52 |
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| cos- | how do i enable the one-way sync? i have a google account set up, but calendar displays only birthdays, personal & facebook | 07:57 |
| Juuba | I think it was automatic | 07:58 |
| cos- | i disabled birthdays earlies but it has been re-enabled for some reason | 07:58 |
| Nicd- | it's automatic if you checked calendar sync when creating the account | 07:58 |
| Juuba | i don't think there's "cal sync" option specifically, at least not visible on my.. | 07:59 |
| Juuba | just "sync" | 07:59 |
| inffy_ | cos-: try to add the account again after removing it | 07:59 |
| cos- | oh, the account wasn't enabled although i just signed in with it.. | 08:00 |
| cos- | Juuba: so i have to sync my phonebook to google if i want to get calendar? | 08:00 |
| Juuba | perhaps, dunno, I sync it | 08:00 |
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| cos- | i think that's a quite serious privacy issue | 08:01 |
| cos- | https://together.jolla.com/question/9949/does-jolla-send-my-address-book-to-facebook-if-i-sync-contacts/ | 08:03 |
| Juuba | short Answer: "No." | 08:04 |
| cos- | read it fully | 08:04 |
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| cos- | according to this caldav functionality is coming https://together.jolla.com/question/534/support-for-caldav-based-calendars-eg-google-calendar/ | 08:04 |
| cos- | i'd be happy to switch to some standard caldav service instead of google for calendar syncing | 08:05 |
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| Nicd- | once CalDAV and CardDAV are ready, I'll set up OwnCloud and ditch Google for good | 08:05 |
| cos- | me too (except i'm lazy and would prefer a ready, hosted service) | 08:06 |
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| m4g0g | guys | 08:08 |
| Nicd- | cos-: then you can use my service when it's up and running ;) | 08:09 |
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| m4g0g | I don't understand what is MerSDK-SailfishOS-armv7hl and MerSDK-SailfishOS-i486-x86 | 08:09 |
| Nicd- | I'm hoping to get some rack space in Finland and set up OwnCloud + email with encrypted storage | 08:09 |
| Nicd- | m4g0g: the other is for ARM and the other is for x86 | 08:09 |
| m4g0g | This is I understand | 08:09 |
| cos- | Nicd-: are you trustable enough that you administrate it well & it runs at least for 10 years? | 08:09 |
| Nicd- | cos-: if I get paid well enough... :D | 08:10 |
| cos- | my hackerspace is also planning to set up an owncloud, that could also work as a good syncing place | 08:10 |
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| Nicd- | but of course if it's implemented properly it shouldn't be hard to take your data elsewhere | 08:10 |
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| m4g0g | my project should be installed in non usual dir and due to I can't create rpm :-( | 08:11 |
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| m4g0g | how I can deploy application directly to device | 09:08 |
| m4g0g | I add it via usb network but how I can add it to deploy target in qtcreator? | 09:09 |
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| thp | m4g0g: you can configure the device in qtcreator's preferences, "devices", "add", "mer arm device" | 09:12 |
| m4g0g | I have added jolla in this section | 09:12 |
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| m4g0g | Wow | 09:14 |
| m4g0g | I find all in Kits | 09:14 |
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| m4g0g | How I can install nemo-transfer-engine to sdk? | 09:23 |
| thp | m4g0g: ssh into it, then "pkcon install nemo-transfer-engine" | 09:25 |
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| m4g0g | thx | 09:27 |
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| admiral0 | hello | 09:58 |
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| m4g0g | jolla update should be this week but when we can create applications using transfer engine and account managment? | 10:37 |
| stephg | :w | 10:38 |
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| m4g0g | there is no possibility to manage accounts in emulator and as a result there is no possibility to create transfer engine plugin. Doing all on real device is very uncomfortable | 10:39 |
| tbr | did you post this on TJC yet? | 10:42 |
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| m4g0g | hm. good idea | 10:43 |
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| m4g0g | is it possible to select text in browser? | 10:59 |
| m4g0g | https://together.jolla.com/question/32881/sharing-api/ | 11:00 |
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| s1gk1ll | hi everyone | 11:28 |
| s1gk1ll | good question m4g0g | 11:28 |
| s1gk1ll | I was about to ask the same thing :) | 11:28 |
| s1gk1ll | looking to some api for twitter/facebook file sharing also | 11:29 |
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| juke__ | me too | 11:35 |
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| coderus | any way to set android timezone? | 12:07 |
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| coderus | really? no way? :) | 13:38 |
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| pp | props file? | 13:38 |
| pp | (just guessing) | 13:38 |
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| coderus | тщ швуфб ыщккн | 13:54 |
| coderus | no idea, sorry | 13:54 |
| coderus | never owned android before :) | 13:54 |
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| pp | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1480087 :P | 13:55 |
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| coderus | pp no difference with changing props( | 14:44 |
| coderus | i'm testing with BBM | 14:44 |
| pp | I'm assuming /opt/alien/system/build.prop is the one (or maybe etc/timezone there?) | 14:46 |
| pp | still just guessing | 14:47 |
| admiral0 | is sledges here ? | 14:48 |
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| sledges | is :) | 14:57 |
| sledges | 19:23 <sledges> hello admiral0 | 14:57 |
| sledges | 19:23 -!- admiral0: No such nick/channel | 14:57 |
| sledges | is what hapened in private ;) | 14:57 |
| sledges | i received your info fine, thank you admiral0 | 14:57 |
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| coderus | pp: i found this: https://together.jolla.com/question/2351/bug-android-display-timezone-not-set-correctly/ | 15:19 |
| coderus | but setting this prop have no effect for me | 15:20 |
| Stskeeps | restarted? | 15:23 |
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| coderus | restarted aliendalvik service | 15:27 |
| coderus | and restarted device | 15:28 |
| coderus | still same | 15:28 |
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| coderus | ah, its autogenerated... | 15:29 |
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| coderus | cant find that buildinfo.sh | 15:30 |
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| coderus | found /opt/alien/system/script/platform_envsetup.sh | 15:35 |
| coderus | uncommented TZ settings | 15:35 |
| coderus | all working as expected | 15:36 |
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| admiral0 | sledges: no, thank you :) | 16:14 |
| sledges | :) | 16:16 |
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| tortoisedoc | howdihou | 19:29 |
| * tortoisedoc wondering when the 1.0 non beta will be out? | 19:29 | |
| tortoisedoc | (yes I know thi is an 3v1l question) | 19:30 |
| m4g0g | os verstion? | 19:30 |
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| tortoisedoc | m4g0g : first non - beta? | 19:31 |
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| m4g0g | On t.j.c was post with this week data: 10 - 17 | 19:31 |
| tortoisedoc | t.j.c.? | 19:31 |
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| mulin0 | together jolla .com? ;-) | 19:32 |
| tortoisedoc | :D | 19:32 |
| tortoisedoc | thanks | 19:32 |
| tortoisedoc | any news about fixed qt debugging? | 19:32 |
| tortoisedoc | ive been away too long -_- | 19:32 |
| m4g0g | mulin0: yep | 19:33 |
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| admiral0 | hello again | 20:09 |
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| eyome | hello admiral0 | 20:22 |
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| nimmersatt | cool quite a big room here :D | 20:57 |
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| nimmersatt | uhm | 20:58 |
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| nimmersatt | anybody hear about the "Fairphone"? | 20:58 |
| nimmersatt | I would like to ask if it is possible to install Sailfish onto an android device? | 20:58 |
| nimmersatt | is that easy? | 20:58 |
| nimmersatt | not easy? impossible? | 20:59 |
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| FireFly | I've heard about fairphone, yeah | 20:59 |
| Nicd- | it's possible and will be made as easy as it can | 20:59 |
| Nicd- | will probably be pretty easy for phones where community images are available in the future | 20:59 |
| nimmersatt | I mean, actually sailfish, not just looking like it. | 21:00 |
| Acce | is that fairphone as in fair trade? as in the manufacturers workers actually get paid for their work? | 21:00 |
| FireFly | I think that's in the works | 21:00 |
| Nicd- | nimmersatt: yep | 21:00 |
| FireFly | Acce: yeah, that's the idea | 21:00 |
| nimmersatt | Acce: yes. as much as they can. | 21:00 |
| Nicd- | nimmersatt: installing sailfish on android phones is one of jolla's big plans for it | 21:00 |
| nimmersatt | Jolla is awesome. | 21:00 |
| Acce | I heard if the phone can run cyanogenmod 10.1 it might be easier to port sailfish | 21:01 |
| FireFly | My dad ordered a fairphone roughly around the time I preordered the jolla, so we were both waiting eagerly for our new phones the past autumn :p | 21:01 |
| nimmersatt | haha, cool. | 21:02 |
| nimmersatt | such hipster family. | 21:02 |
| nimmersatt | I have fairphone and my sister is vegan. thats hipster, too. | 21:02 |
| FireFly | lol | 21:02 |
| nimmersatt | uhm. and how would the port work? | 21:02 |
| nimmersatt | I mean, there are not many people having a fairphone. | 21:03 |
| FireFly | I'm not sure | 21:03 |
| nimmersatt | will they have to port sailfish to certain phones? | 21:03 |
| Nicd- | the community will have to port it most likely | 21:04 |
| nimmersatt | so like one version for galaxy nexus, the other version for HTC whatever.... | 21:04 |
| nimmersatt | or one for all. | 21:04 |
| nimmersatt | I guess the first one. | 21:04 |
| Stskeeps | sailfishos + a hardware adaptation => something that runs on a device | 21:04 |
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| nimmersatt | so there have to be some cool sailfish fans among the 25000 fairphone Owner... ? | 21:05 |
| nimmersatt | and they would make a port for it then... | 21:05 |
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| avivbyo | Any News? | 21:09 |
| Stskeeps | still :( if sledges has your mail we'll spam when there is.. | 21:10 |
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| avivbyo | Talked actually about more generic development news , but it's good to hear that either :D | 21:11 |
| alin | |miska|: hi.. you are here too | 21:11 |
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| edips | Hi! here is some video, I hope you like: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3JJZRQG39o | 21:45 |
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| Nicd- | damn you | 21:46 |
| stephg | edips is a real person, non? | 21:46 |
| lbt | no | 21:47 |
| stephg | I thought they were | 21:47 |
| stephg | or has the bot stripped the [0-9][0-9]$ | 21:47 |
| M4rtinK | he is | 21:47 |
| M4rtinK | talked with him yesterday | 21:47 |
| M4rtinK | on #pyside | 21:47 |
| stephg | oh the bot now squatting on nicks? | 21:48 |
| edips | Hey why dont you check this video before tell me im bot? | 21:48 |
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| lbt | edips: hehe | 21:48 |
| M4rtinK | maybe the bot is harvesting unregistered nicknames ? | 21:48 |
| lbt | so sorry | 21:48 |
| stephg | haha | 21:48 |
| M4rtinK | oh :D | 21:48 |
| stephg | :) | 21:48 |
| edips | n.p. :) | 21:48 |
| lbt | edips: because we've had a whole load of spam with exactly that message | 21:48 |
| edips | I know | 21:48 |
| lbt | evil edips, evil | 21:49 |
| edips | was just a joke, but it is useful video at least :) | 21:49 |
| M4rtinK | LOL :D | 21:49 |
| M4rtinK | we got pwned :D | 21:49 |
| lbt | so true | 21:49 |
| edips | anyway, you shouldnt check any video like this :) | 21:50 |
| edips | or link | 21:50 |
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| stephg | but I'm wanting to MEET hot QT devs in my area!!!11ONE | 21:51 |
| edips | you can join conferences :) | 21:52 |
| edips | if my area in EU, i would like to join there too.. | 21:53 |
| edips | was* | 21:53 |
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| edips | M4rtinK: again could not find any way to run pyotherside today :) | 22:07 |
| M4rtinK | edips: ok :) | 22:09 |
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| M4rtinK | edgar2_: I've seen the issue you have opened for pyotherside on Github | 22:10 |
| edips | I opened an issute about Android at thp's pyotherside at least :) | 22:11 |
| M4rtinK | oops | 22:11 |
| M4rtinK | edips^^ | 22:11 |
| M4rtinK | yeah, good idea! :) | 22:11 |
| edips | yes :) | 22:11 |
| edips | thanks | 22:11 |
| M4rtinK | might make people know about how far things are | 22:11 |
| M4rtinK | so I guess we will see if someone reacts :) | 22:12 |
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| M4rtinK | I have updated my Qt SDK, but still don't know when will have some time to take another look at that :) | 22:12 |
| edips | everyday I learn new things, yesterday I forgot to use pyside32libs and android folder, so it gives some error. today qt creator didnt give any error, but still blank screen appears after installation. | 22:12 |
| edips | yes I think it is soon :) | 22:13 |
| M4rtinK | yeah, it was often like this | 22:13 |
| edips | How do you build headers and create .so files? | 22:13 |
| M4rtinK | but it mostly starts working in the end | 22:13 |
| edips | maybe I can try to run some of python of your materials :) | 22:14 |
| M4rtinK | you mean Python 3 ? | 22:14 |
| edips | yes | 22:14 |
| M4rtinK | I was not able to build it | 22:14 |
| M4rtinK | so I used the one from Python27 | 22:14 |
| M4rtinK | & that repl trick | 22:14 |
| edips | I see | 22:14 |
| M4rtinK | their instructions aren't very clear how they did it | 22:14 |
| M4rtinK | and I was not able to reproduce it | 22:15 |
| edips | I assumed you build them all with shiboken | 22:15 |
| edips | Yes | 22:15 |
| M4rtinK | the PySide port uses Python 2 | 22:15 |
| M4rtinK | and yeah, I had to build both Shiboken & PySide | 22:16 |
| M4rtinK | basically by directly calling the Android NDF tools | 22:16 |
| M4rtinK | check the build scripts | 22:16 |
| M4rtinK | :) | 22:16 |
| edips | I checked python27 project's 3.2 but I just saw one header in include folder | 22:16 |
| M4rtinK | yeah, it is a mess | 22:16 |
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| M4rtinK | if they are active, it might be good to open an RFE | 22:16 |
| M4rtinK | for providing better build instructions | 22:17 |
| edips | sorry, RFL means? | 22:17 |
| edips | RFE | 22:17 |
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| M4rtinK | Request For Enhancement | 22:17 |
| edips | aha | 22:17 |
| M4rtinK | like feature request | 22:17 |
| M4rtinK | as there is just no Python 3 you can easily build at the moment | 22:18 |
| edips | well, if admin of this project answers my question about SL4A, I think to open one issue too about building headers | 22:18 |
| M4rtinK | and they made their Python 3 so somehow :) | 22:18 |
| edips | :) | 22:18 |
| M4rtinK | yeah, don't press them too much, one issue at a time :) | 22:18 |
| edips | I know :) | 22:18 |
| M4rtinK | anyway, have to get up earlier tomorrow | 22:18 |
| M4rtinK | so good night for now :) | 22:19 |
| edips | well, good night :) | 22:19 |
| M4rtinK | thanks ! :) | 22:19 |
| M4rtinK | nite :) | 22:19 |
| edips | thank you too :) | 22:19 |
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| artemma | Where can I find syslog on sailfish? /var/log/syslog doesn't exist | 22:25 |
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| merlin1991 | artemma: it's systemd, so you need to invoke journalctl to read it | 22:26 |
| artemma | oh.. | 22:26 |
| artemma | I am asking, because I was going to ask log4qt to send logs to syslog, there is a ready made service for it | 22:27 |
| artemma | not sure if it will work with systemd | 22:27 |
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| merlin1991 | if you're looking for tail -f /var/log/syslog, that's "journalctl -f --no-pager" now | 22:27 |
| * merlin1991 dislikes it | 22:27 | |
| artemma | merlin1991: thanks | 22:28 |
| artemma | needs root access, interesting | 22:28 |
| merlin1991 | well you needed that for good old syslog too .D | 22:28 |
| artemma | do you know if there is a way for copying journalctl log file out? | 22:29 |
| artemma | my use case is remote debugging of app users issues | 22:29 |
| artemma | I'd ask them to send a log file | 22:29 |
| merlin1991 | using syslog for that is rather weird, I'd have debug prints and have them record a session | 22:31 |
| artemma | well, I do plan to write an own log file to somewhere in /var/log | 22:31 |
| artemma | was thinking about sending important messages to syslog as well | 22:32 |
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| merlin1991 | btw I have a question too, I know about localstorage in qml, but is there some sort of simple key,value store? | 22:32 |
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| artemma | after all other apps do it. Could help debugging cross-app problems. Both my current Jolla apps interface system in the not super-officisal ways (fashlight and quick launcher), so there are some cross-app issues | 22:32 |
| merlin1991 | it's rather odd to build a db table with 2 string columns :D | 22:32 |
| artemma | merlin1991: I believe I've seen somewhere on the web a small(ish) QConfig wrapper for QML | 22:33 |
| artemma | I personally use a single table db, but that's only because I use it for years. If I started nowadays, I probably wouldn | 22:34 |
| artemma | would have used that wrapper | 22:34 |
| artemma | on the other hand my wrapper (same as in Wikipedia app on github) just works and works for years. And is QML if it matters to you :) | 22:35 |
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| * artemma is reading SystemLogAppender code trying to understand if it would work with journalctl | 22:36 | |
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| artemma | setServiceName.. hmm. What's service name for journalctl? | 22:46 |
| artemma | trying "journalctl" | 22:46 |
| artemma | yeah, works! | 22:49 |
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| thp | edips: how's M4rtinK's pyotherside-on-android project going? | 22:52 |
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| artemma | funny, log4qt doesn't want to write to journalctl anymore for some reason | 23:14 |
| artemma | stops after trying to print empty string parameter | 23:14 |
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| artemma | ah, no it was streaming attempt via << | 23:18 |
| edips | thp: I think it is very close to build pyotherside for Android. | 23:19 |
| thp | cool; i tried building python3 once, but it didn't work out of the box so i didn't pursue it further. once python3 builds, getting pyotherside to work with qt5 should be easy | 23:20 |
| edips | It may require to build python32 headers again, or python paths, editing java files for copiying python32 .so and libraries to android | 23:20 |
| edips | but I did not locate python build and libs as blackberry guide | 23:21 |
| edips | But it should work, because python32 APK can work on device, also I think it must run with terminal or adb shell too | 23:22 |
| thp | well, porting woes are mostly due to bionic libc methinks | 23:23 |
| edips | thp: is it possible to run pyotherside with python32 APK? | 23:23 |
| edips | maybe QT app can run python32 interpreter within qml | 23:23 |
| edips | exporting python path like this :https://code.google.com/p/android-python27/wiki/TutorialHowToRunPythonfromShell | 23:24 |
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| thp | well, you don't want the interactive interpreter, you just need the lib, link against it, and make sure the lib is found at runtime + make sure the PYTHONHOME/PYTHONPATH is correctly set | 23:25 |
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| edips | M4rtinK's pyotherside isnt set to pythonhome and python builds in .pri file | 23:26 |
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| edips | *python.pri | 23:26 |
| thp | pythonhome you need at runtime; the libs + headers you need at build time (.pri file) | 23:27 |
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| edips | so I should path this as blackbery, then will try again | 23:27 |
| edips | such as QMAKE_LIBS += -lpython3.2m -L//home/edip/Desktop/pyotherside/libs/python32 | 23:29 |
| edips | QMAKE_CXXFLAGS += -I/home/edip/Desktop/pyotherside/libs/python32/build_dependencies | 23:29 |
| thp | yeah, plus grab the right python3.2 header set and the pyconfig.h from the build and make sure that's in the includepath | 23:29 |
| edips | I am actually new to development :) M4rtinK updated his pyotherside today, I will try it after editing paths | 23:31 |
| edips | ../libs/python32 has build headers | 23:31 |
| edips | sorry, libs/python32 has .so libs | 23:32 |
| edips | but It may be problem that .so files has version names, suchas libpython3.2.so.0.1, it fixed now as libpython3.2.so, but there are a few .so files to needs be changed | 23:34 |
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| edips | so I change it as /home/edip/Desktop/pyotherside/libs/python32/build_dependencies/pyconfig.h instead of PYTHON_CONFIG = python3.3-config | 23:48 |
| artemma | when it /var/log cleaned in Sailfish? | 23:50 |
| artemma | on every OS start? | 23:50 |
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| * artemma is thinking on whether he needs to implement max length of log file or if it's good enough to rely on system removing old logs once in a while | 23:51 | |
| artemma | or is it even a good idea to put log file to /var/log if it's cleaned after reboot? Then I can't see logs e.g. if I my app crashed system and I could see it from logs | 23:52 |
| artemma | or maybe /var/log is cleaned daily via something like logrotate? | 23:53 |
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