| PLSGIMMEZIP | jolla international version | 00:00 |
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| PLSGIMMEZIP | i want me sum sailfish | 00:00 |
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| Lara21 | Hi! I give you some videos. I hope you like! http://bit.do/my_videos69 | 00:04 |
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| sledges | PLSGIMMEZIP: early adopter wannabees pm me :) | 00:37 |
| * sledges sleeps off :] | 00:37 | |
| Shin_NeMeSiS | rom already done? o.O | 00:38 |
| PLSGIMMEZIP | herro | 00:42 |
| PLSGIMMEZIP | I dont even know how to PM on this site | 00:45 |
| Shin_NeMeSiS | /msg name something_you_want_to_say | 00:46 |
| Shin_NeMeSiS | or /query | 00:46 |
| PLSGIMMEZIP | alright thanks | 00:47 |
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| Renee18 | You can find funny videos here. http://bit.do/my_videos69 | 02:04 |
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| Zoe26 | You can find funny videos here. http://bit.do/my_videos69 | 04:04 |
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| ed-beo | Hi. What devices are supported already? | 05:05 |
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| Sandy28 | Here some videos. I hope you like them! http://bit.do/my_videos69 | 06:04 |
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| jake9xx | freenode should enforce identd | 06:52 |
| jake9xx | or we can ban all non-fqdn'd entries? | 06:53 |
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| Sail0r | why would you do this jake9xx | 07:18 |
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| jussi | Sail0r: I think he is frustrated at the constant porn spam | 07:20 |
| jussi | you could set +r, but I wouldnt recommend it | 07:20 |
| pp_ | /ignore my_videos69 ? | 07:21 |
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| FireFly | Maybe a bot could ban each of them, that'd at least thwart further spam from the same IP | 07:37 |
| ChimChin | morning. | 07:38 |
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| Natalia18 | Here some videos. I hope you like them! http://bit.do/my_videos69 | 08:04 |
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| ChimChin | porn! | 08:05 |
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| flux | there could be a bot that bans every IP from which a user joins the channel and the first thing they say is a URL. | 08:13 |
| korhojoa | questionable behavior if someone joins and asks a question with a tjc link | 08:14 |
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| flux | well, hasn't happened in my lastlog | 08:15 |
| flux | I actually have a script that indicates if someone does exactly that | 08:15 |
| flux | and there's always manual unbanning ;) | 08:16 |
| flux | (I don't know about that IRCInfoCustomer, seems like spam though) | 08:16 |
| ln- | does a spam matter, do the pornspambots ever join twice from the same address? | 08:18 |
| ln- | err, does a *ban | 08:18 |
| flux | yes? | 08:18 |
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| flux | for example Natalia18 here did. | 08:18 |
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| flux | oh oops, I just noticed it spammer a neighbour channel ;) | 08:19 |
| flux | (but to be effective such bans could be added to both channels) | 08:19 |
| flux | apparently there have been some attempts at banning it, though.. first by username, then by ip. | 08:20 |
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| albertoabruzzo | Hi | 08:47 |
| tsukimori | hullo | 08:50 |
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| albertoabruzzo | Is there someone that tested Sailfish on Nexus 4? | 08:50 |
| ChimChim | Soon(TM) | 08:51 |
| albertoabruzzo | Lol, btw where's the sources for compile? | 08:51 |
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| tbr | compile what? | 08:53 |
| albertoabruzzo | The image from the sources | 08:54 |
| albertoabruzzo | Like if i want to try it now | 08:55 |
| Dev-aux | There are closed source parts | 08:55 |
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| albertoabruzzo | auch | 08:59 |
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| albertoabruzzo | So no way to join dev/test team? | 08:59 |
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| Shin_NeMeSiS | Hi! Something new about Jolla or Sailfish OS? | 09:08 |
| ChimChim | You can sign up to be an early adopter | 09:08 |
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| tsukimori | ...for the nexus port | 09:08 |
| Shin_NeMeSiS | I already am, thanks :) | 09:08 |
| Shin_NeMeSiS | I'm waiting for the rom to get cooked and come along with some sweet cookies:3 | 09:09 |
| kkszysiu | Im waiting for Jolla UI sources | 09:11 |
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| kkszysiu | Lets see if they open source Sailfish OS sources | 09:11 |
| kkszysiu | :) | 09:11 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | kkszysiu: they won't announce this at MWC I guess | 09:12 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | at least the browser is open, go have fun with it :P | 09:12 |
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| kkszysiu | Sadly no | 09:12 |
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| albertoabruzzo | Where i can sing up to be an early adopyer? | 09:16 |
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| tsukimori | pm'ing a sailor is rumoured to help | 09:18 |
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| tbr | sledges / Stskeeps / sailors, you should consider an own channel for sailfish-port-a-potty activities. I'm having _really_ ugly MeeGo flashbacks right now. | 09:19 |
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| Sail0r | why? | 09:22 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | tbr: #nemomobile-porters ? | 09:24 |
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| tbr | Sfiet_Konstantin: I was snubbed after pointing people there. So NFC, but sailors run this ship, they hold the cards close to their chest, they have to call the shots. | 09:26 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | yep | 09:28 |
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| ChimChim | Good life, day off! Shame the zip isn available for testing yet :d | 09:49 |
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| sledges | tbr- I'll talk to Stskeeps about that but he's at mwc, pls patience for now, the waves will calm, like they did with n9-port-a-sailfish | 10:04 |
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| Ana25 | Hi! I give you some videos. I hope you like! http://bit.do/my_videos69 | 10:04 |
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| sledges | i'll pm the peeps directly to keep it cooler here :) | 10:07 |
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| alberto_abruzzo | T sledges thanks (: | 10:17 |
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| backjlack | Hello! | 11:22 |
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| backjlack | Is the source code for the Jolla phone available yet? | 11:22 |
| backjlack | I'm interested in the kernel. | 11:23 |
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| bencoh | part of the "hardware adaptation" kernel is available | 11:23 |
| bencoh | (check github.com/KonstaT/sailfishos_kernel_jolla_msm8930/) | 11:24 |
| backjlack | The phone and the OS both look good so far, being able to recompile the kernel is the main requirement for me. | 11:24 |
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| backjlack | Basically, I want a phone which lets me fix the kernel bugs on my own, not like Samsung which forces me to wait and hope somebody will fix problems. | 11:25 |
| bencoh | you'll still be missing some blob I guess | 11:27 |
| bencoh | (the part qualcomm has not opensourced) | 11:27 |
| bencoh | be it firmware or host blob, I haven't checked any further and dont own a device | 11:28 |
| backjlack | Thank you for taking the time to answer. I'm interested in getting off the *Android bus* and back to something open. | 11:29 |
| backjlack | If Jolla isn't the device to offer this, I'll look into Firefox OS. | 11:29 |
| bencoh | well I don't think you'd find more "open" regarding this part | 11:29 |
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| VDVsx | backjlack, afaik you can also compile your own kernel | 11:31 |
| leinir | backjlack: well, i've got a freerunner i can sell you if you'd like? | 11:31 |
| backjlack | leinir: Thanks, I'm interested in the Jolla phone. | 11:32 |
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| Agatha30 | Hi! I give you some videos. I hope you like! http://bit.do/my_videos69 | 12:04 |
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| avivbyo | Someone knows if salifish is multilanguage? | 12:28 |
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| cos- | avivbyo: of course it is. | 12:30 |
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| condo43 | hello all; since few days, I had a problem with SDK: I can't deploy the application on Emulator... it fail at "deploy --rsync"; how to debug this ? | 13:15 |
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| Armadillo | hi | 14:01 |
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| Zoe18 | Here some videos. I hope you like them! http://bit.do/my_videos69 | 14:05 |
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| Aoyagi | This channel is getting more spam than any other I'm in. Must be sabotage. | 14:07 |
| Dev-aux | *** SPAM *** | 14:09 |
| flux | % Abuse contact for '37.221.175.32 - 37.221.175.63' is 'noc@voxility.com' | 14:09 |
| flux | % Abuse contact for '37.221.172.224 - 37.221.172.255' is 'noc@voxility.com' | 14:09 |
| Nicd- | it never helps :/ | 14:09 |
| flux | I did the heavy work, now you do the rest 8-) | 14:09 |
| Nicd- | I've sent a few abuse reports, never got a response | 14:09 |
| kengu | or use the power of freenode and just get those banned from the network | 14:09 |
| Nicd- | kengu: they'll be back in no time with new IPs | 14:10 |
| kengu | true. but those seem to be from voxility | 14:10 |
| flux | no they won't, at most 4 billion times | 14:10 |
| pp_ | freenode seems to have some forward ban, maybe forward them to sailfishos-sexbot and see when they notice?-) | 14:10 |
| pp_ | (vs. normal ban, which the botnet code might detect) | 14:11 |
| kengu | k-line more like | 14:11 |
| flux | btw, the third ip I found from my logs is also Voxility-routed.. | 14:12 |
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| Armadillo | is tzhere an event for textfields/-areas which catchs paste events? | 15:18 |
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| Dirrk | Hi, I'm trying to run the 1312 installer. It complains about not enough space for temporary files. There's enough space in /home, and I've tried pre-creating the dir under /home as mentioned on the "Known Issues" webpage, but it still doesn't work. Any ideas? | 15:37 |
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| Dirrk | Hm, "strings" on the installer binary shows "TMPDIR", and setting on the commandline solves the problem. Could anybody add this to the "Known Issues" webpage? Or maybe to the error message? That would have been helpful. | 15:50 |
| kaltsi | Dirrk: thanks for the report.. I'll make a note of it somewhere | 15:51 |
| Dirrk | Now I get another error (not sure if it's related): | 15:51 |
| Dirrk | ... and copy&paste doesn't work on the window ... | 15:51 |
| Dirrk | Error during installation process (org.merproject.mersdk) | 15:52 |
| Dirrk | Execution failed (Unexpected exit code: 1) | 15:52 |
| Dirrk | /home/dirk/SailfishOS/bin/sdktoll addMerSdk ... | 15:52 |
| Dirrk | (lots of arguments) | 15:52 |
| kaltsi | which version of virtualbox you have installed? | 15:52 |
| Dirrk | From Debian, moment | 15:53 |
| Dirrk | 4.3.6-dfsg-2 | 15:53 |
| Dirrk | Should I r(etry, i(gnore? | 15:54 |
| kaltsi | should be fine.. could you run the installer with -v (verbose) option and see if the output tells something more | 15:54 |
| kaltsi | Dirrk: you should stop the installer, it's not going to work if you get an error there | 15:54 |
| Dirrk | kk, rerunning with -v | 15:55 |
| kaltsi | and could you paste the error to for example http://pastebin.com/ please | 15:56 |
| Dirrk | I've blanked the "additional source" question, could that be the problem? | 15:57 |
| kaltsi | blanked? i.e. given no value? | 15:58 |
| Dirrk | It complains about --shared-src parameter mssing, Argument parsing failed. | 15:58 |
| Dirrk | yes | 15:58 |
| kaltsi | yeah.. that's the problem :) | 15:58 |
| Dirrk | kk, try again | 15:58 |
| kaltsi | ok.. need to make a note of that | 15:58 |
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| kaltsi | keep it as it is by default.. you can't easily change it anyways in this sdk.. in the next one yes | 15:59 |
| kaltsi | Dirrk: where did you point the TMPDIR.. just somewhere which has enough space? | 15:59 |
| Dirrk | yes, another dir on /home | 16:00 |
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| kaltsi | added that bit to wiki | 16:01 |
| kaltsi | err to known issues | 16:02 |
| Dirrk | runs fine this time. thx for the help so far. | 16:02 |
| kaltsi | yw | 16:03 |
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| Crystal25 | Hi! I give you some videos. I hope you like! http://bit.do/my_videos69 | 16:05 |
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| walokra | ^ unlike | 16:49 |
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| stephg | it';s always the same URL | 16:55 |
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| leszek | hi | 17:13 |
| leszek | how can I call a signal from a remorseAction ? Is it even possible ? | 17:14 |
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| Venemo | leszek: same way as you would call it otherwise? | 17:18 |
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| guilleiguaran | how can i become an early adopter? :D | 17:20 |
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| guilleiguaran | (I have a Nexus 4) | 17:21 |
| leszek | Venemo: that unfortunately does not work as it complains about that it does not know the signal or it isn't a function. Here the source code: http://paste.kde.org/pfx40ezgp and the error message: http://paste.kde.org/pqmfbulnk | 17:21 |
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| Venemo | leszek: I don't understand why you do it that way | 17:23 |
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| leszek | Venemo: if you know another way or even better way please tell me | 17:24 |
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| Venemo | leszek: why do you assign the signal to another variable, instead of just calling it? | 17:25 |
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| leszek | you mean in the action function ? | 17:27 |
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| leszek | Venemo: I am actually not assigning the signal to another variable actually. I am just calling the signal inside of another function | 17:29 |
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| Tofe | leszek: doesn't simply calling entryMenu.fileRemove(...) work? | 17:33 |
| Tofe | from the action function | 17:33 |
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| leszek_ | Tofe: nope --> TypeError: Cannot call method 'fileRemove' of undefined | 17:35 |
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| leszek | The remorseAction in general only seems to work with functions not signals. At least I did not found any examples on how to emit a signal when a remorseAction finished | 17:42 |
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| Shin_NeMeSiS | Hi! :) | 17:56 |
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| Venemo | hi | 18:00 |
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| Tofe | leszek: if entryMenu is not known in the scope of the function, you can always copy it in a variable, like you do for rmFile | 18:02 |
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| leszek | Tofe: tried that also but ---> Property 'removeFile' of object [object Object] is not a function | 18:04 |
| Barbara26 | You can find funny videos here. http://bit.do/my_videos69 | 18:04 |
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| Tofe | leszek: what if "action" is not an inline function, but is declared like a usual function, like deleteFile ? | 18:07 |
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| ln- | my app was accepted to harbour within two working days. not bad. | 18:07 |
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| leszek | Tofe: it does not change anything | 18:08 |
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| Armadillo | ln- last week I had a release below 24 hours :) | 18:12 |
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| bentz | hi | 18:15 |
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| Shin_NeMeSiS | bentz: Hi !! | 18:16 |
| bentz | :) | 18:17 |
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| leszek | Tofe, Venemo_: I figured out the problem. The items are removed before the remorseAction can kick in and execute the functions. Its a little bit odd but I guess its a bug in remorseAction as creating a remorseItem and calling remorse.execute works fine | 18:27 |
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| Tofe | ok | 18:28 |
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| tortoisedoc | hei sailors | 18:51 |
| tortoisedoc | \\usr\include\mlite5\mdesktopentry.h:40: error: variable 'MLITESHARED_EXPORT MDesktopEntry' has initializer but incomplete type | 18:52 |
| tortoisedoc | anyone else seen this problem when relying on milte5? | 18:52 |
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| Shin_NeMeSiS | tortoisedoc: nope, sorry | 18:54 |
| tortoisedoc | aaaah sh*tbals | 18:54 |
| tortoisedoc | I have it | 18:54 |
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| tortoisedoc | nastynasty one | 18:54 |
| tortoisedoc | problem is in #ifndef GLOBAL_H | 18:54 |
| tortoisedoc | erm | 18:54 |
| tortoisedoc | mlite-global.h | 18:54 |
| tortoisedoc | has #ifndef GLOBAL_H | 18:54 |
| tortoisedoc | in the first line | 18:54 |
| tortoisedoc | well, I happen to have a file called global.h | 18:54 |
| tortoisedoc | guess what happens :| | 18:55 |
| tortoisedoc | (also the global.h has the same #ifndef GLOBAL_H) | 18:55 |
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| Shin_NeMeSiS | No news today? xD | 18:59 |
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| avivbyo | How do i add my apps to the SDK? someone knows? | 19:47 |
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| ln- | how do you mean add to the SDK? | 19:49 |
| jake9xx | avivbyo: well.. what are you talking about in detail? | 19:51 |
| avivbyo | I want to run something on the Virtual Machine , like adding things just to experience . is it posibble? | 19:51 |
| jake9xx | yes | 19:54 |
| kimmoli | https://twitter.com/creip/status/438397792160346112 | 19:54 |
| jake9xx | but do you mean 'mer sdk' virtualmachine or the emulator? | 19:54 |
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| elcidii | hi guys | 19:56 |
| jake9xx | kimmoli: http://www.modaco.com/topic/364200-cyanogenmod-101-build-r20-130114/page-23 check for 'MSM8625Q' :D | 19:56 |
| jake9xx | kimmoli: once we have valid android capable kernel running on that hw ; rest is easier | 19:57 |
| coderus | avivbyo: deploy to emulator. thats a special target in sdk | 19:58 |
| jake9xx | u know, it might be in the works already so when devices hit stores ; we have SFOS for it :) | 19:58 |
| ottulo | that sounds great :o | 19:59 |
| jorbas | I'm trying to build PyOtherSide and I'm having trouble, from the message I'm getting (Project ERROR: Unknown module(s) in QT: quick qml) I'm guessing I don't have the correct packages installed for Quick or QML. I can't figure out what packages I need though. Does anyone know the Fedora packages (if they exist)? | 20:00 |
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| jake9xx | jorbas ? qt4-dev ? | 20:04 |
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| jorbas | PyOtherSide is bindings for Qt5. On a side note I do already have that. | 20:05 |
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| jorbas | Figured it out, qt5-qtdeclarative-devel | 20:16 |
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| ln- | are category names in english for all locales? https://together.jolla.com/question/30497/localize-category-names-in-the-store/ | 20:57 |
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| Turski | ln-: haha, i haven't even realized that they are not localized | 21:04 |
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| artemma | What would be a good Qt logging library with warning levels and turnable on/off per class/unit, output to file/console? Ideally for QML as well | 22:39 |
| sledges | artemma: qdebug ? | 22:40 |
| artemma | sledges: not good enough for me | 22:40 |
| sledges | oh wel :) | 22:40 |
| artemma | I want to be able to turn it on off and direct to file/console. Ideally at runtime | 22:41 |
| artemma | use case: debugging post factum from app users | 22:41 |
| artemma | like when they figure misbehaving app feature, I'd tell to turn loggin on and send me log | 22:41 |
| sledges | set a dynamically changeable minimal debug level treshold | 22:41 |
| artemma | also is nice to centrally set standard debugging level per class/unit. I want to keep logging statements in all units, but report only Error level, while reporting everything to a particular component I am studying | 22:42 |
| artemma | hmm, google tells that since Qt 5.2, Qt itself supports logging categories - http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5/qloggingcategory.html | 22:45 |
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| artemma | but.. Sailfish so far is based on Qt 5.1 plus some cherry-picked Qt5.2 changes. Correct? | 22:46 |
| artemma | sledges: also I'd like optional timestamps for the log file. Helps with timing-dependent issues | 22:46 |
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| Oler_42 | hello | 22:50 |
| sledges | artemma: https://github.com/nemomobile/nemo-mobile-session/commit/3d76f04fd4e7f7c9b572c624e7740ada6b61d1c3 | 22:50 |
| sledges | useful thing | 22:50 |
| Oler_42 | how can i get a preview of sailfish os for nexus 4? | 22:51 |
| artemma | sledges: thanks a lot! Just reading docs about the same and was wondering abt message patrern possibilities | 22:51 |
| artemma | function and line are good! maybe time will be there too | 22:51 |
| artemma | Oler_42: #jollamobile is a better channel for it. But shortly: there is no official version yet, you can google some developer level instructions | 22:52 |
| artemma | that are probably obsolete by now | 22:52 |
| sledges | Oler_42: pm me your name email and intentions and we'll get back to you when image and instruction is ready for early adoption | 22:53 |
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| artemma | sledges: qtVersion() on device reports 5.1.0, category logging is from 5.2.0.. How can you use it then? | 22:58 |
| sledges | handmade | 22:58 |
| artemma | Or is nemo already on 5.2 while sailfish is on 5.1 yet? | 22:58 |
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| sledges | is just one switch statement really :) | 22:59 |
| sledges | we have very 5.1 nicely looked after with patches | 22:59 |
| sledges | and contributions back to qt | 22:59 |
| artemma | ah. Then I probably can find it somewhere in nemo sources | 22:59 |
| sledges | yes | 22:59 |
| sledges | check qtbase | 22:59 |
| sledges | across nemomobile-packages (or for a package of this calibre -- github/mer-packages ) | 22:59 |
| artemma | are you saying that all these utils are already part of sailfish sdk or that I need to reipmplement/copy it myself if I want to use it? | 23:00 |
| artemma | intereresting.. | 23:01 |
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| sledges | QT_MESSAGES pattern is certainly part of sailfish | 23:02 |
| artemma | ah, you use 5.0 facilities with message pattern | 23:02 |
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| sledges | because a guy inside jolla asked me to do the same for nemo later ;) | 23:03 |
| * artemma reads docs | 23:03 | |
| artemma | and the message pattern seems to be applied on the build step | 23:03 |
| sledges | macros? | 23:03 |
| artemma | yep | 23:04 |
| artemma | okay, redirection to file/console I can implement myself | 23:04 |
| sledges | that's true, as it needs to know the code line number etc | 23:04 |
| sledges | artemma: http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5.0/qtcore/qdebug.html#QDebugx | 23:04 |
| artemma | what about 5.2 style turning different debugging levels on/off at runtime? | 23:04 |
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| * artemma searched Logging categories seem to be not yet used in nemo - zero search results for https://github.com/nemomobile/nemo-mobile-session/search?q=QLoggingCategory&type=Code | 23:06 | |
| * artemma finds logging categories extremely convenient in his daytime java-related work, would be nice to use them in Qt. And in QML too | 23:07 | |
| sledges | mobile session contains only config files | 23:07 |
| sledges | check in qtbase | 23:08 |
| artemma | I guess you mean qtbase coming from Qt.. and probably modified by nemo. I don't know how to find it. failed with Gitthub search | 23:09 |
| sledges | https://github.com/mer-packages/qtbase.git | 23:10 |
| artemma | thx | 23:10 |
| sledges | welcome | 23:11 |
| artemma | hmm can't find categories still. Oh well, maybe nemo doesn't use them | 23:12 |
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| sledges | should be there | 23:13 |
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| artemma | possibly I don't know how to use github search properly. Tried https://github.com/mer-packages/qtbase/search?q=QLoggingCategory&ref=cmdform | 23:14 |
| sledges | git clone and grep ;) | 23:14 |
| artemma | trying.. | 23:14 |
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| artemma | grep -R 'QLoggingCategory' qtbase returned nothing still | 23:20 |
| artemma | https://bitbucket.org/razvanpetru/qt-components/wiki/QsLog seems to be close to what I want except it cannot switch file/unit categories at runtime (can at build time) | 23:21 |
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| sledges | artemma: | 23:27 |
| sledges | grep QT_MESSAGE_PATTERN * -Rw | 23:28 |
| sledges | worked :) | 23:28 |
| artemma | ah, the category classes are different then. | 23:28 |
| artemma | or maybe not used | 23:28 |
| sledges | named differently yea | 23:29 |
| sledges | can never be sure | 23:29 |
| artemma | okay, found https://github.com/mer-packages/qtbase/blob/c2af491cbabcba90ca5bd69f8ecb123439156f9d/qtbase/src/corelib/global/qlogging.cpp | 23:29 |
| artemma | studying, thx | 23:29 |
| sledges | yup :) | 23:29 |
| sledges | this should be in sailfish too | 23:29 |
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| artemma | sledges: looks well thought and I see how you print category, but I can't see how you enable/disable category | 23:33 |
| sledges | just changing threshold i think | 23:34 |
| sledges | that's all :/ | 23:34 |
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| artemma | so I can enable/disable INFO messages per whole project only. Can work, but Qt 5.2 categories are more flexible | 23:35 |
| artemma | and well, it is obviously good enough for nemo | 23:35 |
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| sledges | yeap | 23:37 |
| sledges | toggling categories sounds a bit complex | 23:37 |
| sledges | but probably you can't go other way in your project's case | 23:37 |
| sledges | no matter how complex it is/not | 23:37 |
| artemma | it probably is complex, but helps debugging | 23:38 |
| artemma | sure I'd like to use some ready made lib, hence these questions | 23:38 |
| artemma | if not found I'll resort to just levels on/off probably | 23:38 |
| artemma | then nemo-style patterns will help certainly | 23:38 |
| sledges | oki, glad to help :) | 23:42 |
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| artemma | thz | 23:42 |
| artemma | thx | 23:42 |
| sledges | welcome | 23:42 |
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