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| fengshaun | is it possible to get sailfish os running on galaxy nexus? | 00:44 |
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| fengshaun | is there a compatibility list somewhere+ | 00:44 |
| fengshaun | ?* | 00:44 |
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| Yaniel | in theory yes | 00:46 |
| Yaniel | but there is no official support and no guides for doing so | 00:46 |
| fengshaun | oh, sour | 00:46 |
| fengshaun | thanks | 00:46 |
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| coderus | Mitakuuluu v0.1-23 update. New protocol, bugfixies and nice bubbles chat skin. Mandatory update | 06:00 |
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| Bloob | well, since we're advertising: http://forum.jollausers.com/sailfish-applications/%28beta%29-okeanos-sailfish-irc-client/ :) | 06:06 |
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| mike7b4_web | HI, my Jolla is now reboot looping :-/ and recover with volume down seems not work :( | 08:08 |
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| mike7b4_web | When connect to linuxbox it find my Jolla and setup eth1 without address/netmask and when I set it manually to: sudo ifconfig eth1 192.168.42.18 netmask 255.255.255.0 up and telnet to 192.168.42.17 I get Unable to connect? | 08:09 |
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| max87 | hello | 08:22 |
| max87 | any sailfish rom available ( or will be available ) for galaxy s plus ( i9001 ) ? | 08:22 |
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| jake9xx | max87: you might wanna talk to vgrade , he's been posting the youtube links. Basically everything you need is our repos | 08:24 |
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| max87 | ok. thx | 08:46 |
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| coderus | w00t: jake9xx: is there any *fix* for landscape framebuffer in 1.0.3.7? | 08:53 |
| jake9xx | coderus: whaddyamean? | 08:54 |
| coderus | jake9xx: just in case you may ask my question inside jolla | 08:55 |
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| coderus | i'm asking because in 1.0.3.7 AppWindow rotation TOTALLY broken | 08:56 |
| coderus | i suppose it caused by trying someone to fix orientation | 08:57 |
| coderus | and i want to know if i right or not :) | 08:57 |
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| jukkaeklund | coderus, which device you run that on? | 08:58 |
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| coderus | N9 | 09:04 |
| veskuh | coderus, do you have gconf value for /desktop/jolla/components/screen_rotation_angle defined? | 09:05 |
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| coderus | veskuh: hmm no, its unset | 09:07 |
| veskuh | coderus, that should define needed base change so for landscape panel it should be set. It at least used to work and be the correct way. | 09:08 |
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| veskuh | I haven't taken a look at portrait/landscape panel in ages but it used to be so that you just had to define that for landscape panel devices and all silica apps worked just fine | 09:10 |
| veskuh | and home, vkb, etc. but like I said last time I looked at these things was in X11 ages | 09:11 |
| coderus | veskuh: eh. its usable now, but... | 09:11 |
| coderus | i'll take a picture | 09:11 |
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| pp | * Wed Jan 29 2014 Joona Petrell <joona.petrell@jollamobile.com> - 0.16.14 | 09:12 |
| pp | - [homescreen] Support landscape in Connection selector. Fixes JB#15171 | 09:12 |
| pp | Last moment changes in that area at least O:) | 09:13 |
| coderus | pp: what the component? | 09:13 |
| pp | lipstick-jolla-home | 09:13 |
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| coderus | veskuh: pp: http://i.imgur.com/jgxiCKU.jpg | 09:15 |
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| coderus | thats how *fix* looks on my N9 | 09:15 |
| * coderus gonna to hack lipstick again... | 09:15 | |
| veskuh | Is that what stock lipstick and silica or is there hacks? | 09:16 |
| coderus | veskuh: stock | 09:16 |
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| coderus | i need to hack it again | 09:17 |
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| artemma | Quick Launcher saga continues. 8 days since submission, 4 days since approval by now. Anybody wanna bet when update is actually downloadable in app store? | 09:27 |
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| Tofe | artemma: there's an app for that, but it's still pre-alpha version ;) | 09:30 |
| artemma | Tofe: for betting on app review times? :) | 09:31 |
| Tofe | yep | 09:32 |
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| Tofe | Is QtJsonDb QML module available in Sailfish ? or even in Qt 5.1 ? | 09:33 |
| ballock | I am intending to hack the call routing. | 09:35 |
| ballock | Ideally to make a telepathy conference between GSM and SIP. | 09:36 |
| ballock | And I'll gladly accept some help to get started with it. | 09:36 |
| ballock | The calls are handled by 'voicecall' package in the UI | 09:37 |
| ballock | and telepathy is used at the backend | 09:37 |
| ballock | between them there seems to be a 'call manager' | 09:37 |
| ballock | umm... telepathy-mission-control | 09:38 |
| ballock | Starting trivial, I'd like to know how the current stuff is routed. | 09:38 |
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| ballock | I can't find any configs for that, so perhaps its configured by voicecall with an API. | 09:39 |
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| ballock | So, does anybody know how/where the telepathy framework is configured? | 09:41 |
| ballock | ... ok, so where should I ask? | 09:44 |
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| veskuh | coderus, btw; did you try different values on the gconf value, as far as I remember 90 degree was right one landscape panel. | 09:45 |
| artemma | I tried looking a little at optimizations yesterday and it seems that minimal time needed to start app with a listview, a search field and get ready for user input is something like 1300-1600 ms | 09:48 |
| artemma | I didn't *really* study it hard, but maybe somebody did | 09:48 |
| artemma | 1.5 sec is quite a lot, especially without any splashscreens. What are your formal or informal experience regarding app starting time? | 09:49 |
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| coderus | veskuh: it rotating, but width not changed. | 09:53 |
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| veskuh | coderus, right, I think silica just hardcodes the shorter one as width | 09:54 |
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| coderus | no, it using Screen,width as width | 09:55 |
| veskuh | coderus, there is Screen qml-type in Silica | 09:57 |
| veskuh | and that's what I was refering to | 09:57 |
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| winfriedd | coderus: I installed Mitakuuluu 1.24. Can you explain how to download the avatar picture? Can't get it to work... | 10:24 |
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| coderus | winfriedd: click avatar and click save button | 10:37 |
| winfriedd | And then it should appear in the gallery ? | 10:45 |
| coderus | yes, probably :D | 10:46 |
| winfriedd | Because no matter how may times I click on the cloud icon, nothing appears in the gallery... | 10:46 |
| coderus | its copied to /home/nemo/Pictures/%1 | 10:46 |
| winfriedd | On my phone /home/nemo/Pictures has no %1 subdir | 10:50 |
| coderus | its filename placeholder, its not a (sub)dir =| | 10:52 |
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| winfriedd | Ah ok. But no avatars in the Pictures directory | 10:54 |
| winfriedd | I checked also via terminal | 10:55 |
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| coderus | then its not working | 10:57 |
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| matoking | Hmm | 11:20 |
| matoking | I seem to have found a bug with Slider | 11:20 |
| matoking | Namely, if I try to set the maximumValue to audio.duration (which is the length of the Audio element) | 11:20 |
| matoking | The handle and the value text aren't visible | 11:20 |
| matoking | If I set it to a static value like 50000, they are visible | 11:21 |
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| Acce | matoking: are you sure your audio element is initialized at that moment? no "cannot assign" errors? | 11:23 |
| matoking | Yeah | 11:24 |
| matoking | It updates correctly according to the audio's length and current position | 11:24 |
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| Sail0r | grml | 11:25 |
| matoking | Hmm | 11:26 |
| Sail0r | what are the requirements for XMLHttpRequest(); to parse xml? | 11:26 |
| matoking | It seems to break if I change the maximumValue | 11:26 |
| Sail0r | i always have an empty connection.responseXML | 11:26 |
| Sail0r | but connection.responseText is filled with xml ... | 11:26 |
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| matoking | Nvm, it seems to break if it's given an invalid value | 11:28 |
| matoking | Although it doesn't seem to log an error | 11:29 |
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| coderus | matoking: try parseInt(audio.duration) | 11:29 |
| matoking | I did fix it already | 11:29 |
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| Acce | matoking: sometimes no errors are given, when it would matter yeah.. let's hope it gets better eventually | 11:31 |
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| matoking | Yeah | 11:31 |
| matoking | I had assigned the maximumValue to audio.duration | 11:31 |
| matoking | And I thought that even if it did get an invalid value at first | 11:32 |
| matoking | It would start behaving normally once it got an actual number | 11:32 |
| matoking | Like it did, except that value text and the handle became invisible | 11:32 |
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| matoking | Ahh | 11:36 |
| matoking | If you set both minimumValue and maximumValue to 0 | 11:36 |
| matoking | It breaks | 11:37 |
| matoking | If you set maximumValue to -1 instead it works | 11:37 |
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| Acce | matoking: weird stuff, well great you got it working | 11:53 |
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| makmanalp | Hello, I'm interested in fiddling with the nokia n9 community port to clear out some of the bugs, like camera not working, etc. Anyone know anyone here who's working on that? | 11:58 |
| makmanalp | and also, does anyone know if the android compat layer is closed source and ONLY for official ports or it exists for all ports, and just needs to be fixed to work? | 12:00 |
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| VDVsx | makmanalp, closed source, 3rd party solution | 12:45 |
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| coderus | matoking: afaik nobody working on n9 port. only some work at kernel 3.4/5 | 12:51 |
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| matoking | @coderus You replied to the wrong person :P | 12:57 |
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| makmanalp | coderus: I found some n9 work | 13:42 |
| makmanalp | examples: https://github.com/martinbrook/jolla-n950-kickstart | 13:42 |
| makmanalp | http://www.jollausers.com/2013/12/sailfish-ported-to-n9-mini-tutorial/ | 13:42 |
| makmanalp | http://mynokiablog.com/2013/12/10/video-sailfish-os-running-on-nokia-n9-guide/ | 13:43 |
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| valdur55 | old stuff | 13:51 |
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| Aard | coderus: there isn't _that_ much porting to do. kernel is the main thing, ideally getting wayland perform better, and writing native statefs-providers for some contextkit-bits. rest should just work | 14:01 |
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| Mellissa93xOxO | I found it! | 14:06 |
| Mellissa93xOxO | http://j.gs/3Nkb ! | 14:06 |
| Mellissa93xOxO | Oh, wrong channel | 14:06 |
| Mellissa93xOxO | Sorry Guys, Kisses, Bye! | 14:06 |
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| makmanalp | Aard: did you mean me? | 14:20 |
| Aard | you and coderus. though originally only read his comment :) | 14:20 |
| Nicd- | does anyone know if sys/sysinfo.h is available in sailfish? | 14:20 |
| Acce | Nicd-: Can't you find out by just trying? | 14:21 |
| makmanalp | Aard: I would love if you could give me anything to read or at least a highlevel overview of how I can get my hands dirty with that | 14:21 |
| Nicd- | Acce: yep, but I can also find out by asking | 14:21 |
| Nicd- | the thing I need it for is in the planning stages | 14:22 |
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| Aard | makmanalp: android layer won't work on n9, camera is tricky (though might be doable). | 14:22 |
| Aard | makmanalp: what kind of experience do you have / what do you think you could do? | 14:22 |
| makmanalp | looks like contextkit is basically a wrapper of common nemomobile stuff, so I'd have to implement the interfaces to do n9-specific stuff, right? | 14:23 |
| makmanalp | Aard: well, I've done a ton of programming, no mer stuff before but a decent amount of c and I've also worked a bit on KDE for google summer of code | 14:23 |
| makmanalp | I have a reasonable understanding of kernel stuff, but not too deep | 14:23 |
| kaltsi | Nicd-: it is part of normal glibc development environment, so yes the header is there | 14:24 |
| makmanalp | I've done the old "write your own syscall" homework that all systems courses seem to have, but that's about it :) | 14:24 |
| Nicd- | kaltsi: ok, thanks :) | 14:24 |
| Nicd- | I'll rewrite the SailTime uptime checking entirely | 14:24 |
| kaltsi | Nicd-: haven't you installed the sdk yet? it would have been easy to check with it | 14:25 |
| Aard | makmanalp: I guess the contextkit/statefs bits would be a good starting point then, that'd allow dropping qt4 from n9 images | 14:25 |
| Nicd- | kaltsi: I have but I haven't had time to do anything with it | 14:26 |
| makmanalp | Aard: because mer / nemomobile is qt5? | 14:26 |
| makmanalp | Aard: is this what we're talking about? https://github.com/nemomobile/contextkit-nemo-n950-n9 | 14:27 |
| Aard | makmanalp: sailfishos is qt5, nemo is moving towards qt5 only as well. mer still supports both | 14:27 |
| Aard | yes | 14:27 |
| makmanalp | ok | 14:27 |
| makmanalp | Aard: none of the power stuff seems to use qt at all | 14:29 |
| Aard | makmanalp: contextkit uses qt | 14:29 |
| makmanalp | oh the tests do | 14:29 |
| Aard | so by them still being contextkit providers you still pull in qt4 | 14:30 |
| makmanalp | ah, and what's the qt5 equivalent that i'd need to rewrite to? | 14:30 |
| Aard | statefs | 14:30 |
| makmanalp | oh I see | 14:30 |
| Aard | sailfishos dropped support for contextkit, though statefs has some compatibility apis | 14:31 |
| makmanalp | i just saw statefs-contextkit | 14:31 |
| makmanalp | Aard: sorry if i'm nagging you but i just learned more in 5 minutes than I did in the past few hours :) | 14:32 |
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| makmanalp | Aard, coderus: looks like some of the n9 contextkit stuff has been ported already: https://github.com/nemomobile/statefs-providers/blob/master/src/bme/bmeipc.c | 14:33 |
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| matoking | I have a GridView with a lot of IconButtons, and I want a ContextMenu to appear when an IconButton is held down for long enough | 14:34 |
| matoking | It works, but the items below don't move out of the way | 14:34 |
| Aard | makmanalp: possible, but don't ask me about the exact status, I didn't have time to play with sailfish on n9 in the last few months | 14:35 |
| matoking | I should mention that the ContextMenu is not inside the delegate Item | 14:36 |
| makmanalp | Aard: okay, thanks, I'll try to grep through the commit logs | 14:36 |
| Aard | deztructor: ^^ maybe you can comment? | 14:36 |
| Aard | deztructor is the guy who wrote statefs | 14:36 |
| makmanalp | ah, okay | 14:37 |
| matoking | Instead, I have one ContextMenu on the root, like how it's demonstrated here https://sailfishos.org/sailfish-silica/qml-sailfishsilica-contextmenu.html | 14:37 |
| makmanalp | Aard: so the way I understand, most of the device-specific stuff comes from statefs, and then maybe some kernel drivers for nonstandard components? | 14:37 |
| Aard | statefs is the bit giving middleware and upper layers a view of the state components are in (plus signalling if it changes) | 14:38 |
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| Sail0r | https://twitter.com/AnttiSaarnio/status/429261657831780352/photo/1 | 14:38 |
| Sail0r | i think it's coming | 14:38 |
| Aard | Sail0r: yes, we're just doing the final preparations | 14:39 |
| Sail0r | cool :). thank you Aard | 14:39 |
| matoking | I should mention that I meant SilicaGridView when I said GridView earlier :P | 14:40 |
| makmanalp | Aard: is it also writeable? i.e. does the nemo / mer code "write" stuff to statefs that, say, turns wireless on and off? | 14:40 |
| Aard | makmanalp: it's read only (not sure if provider could provide write access, deztructor could answer that) | 14:42 |
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| makmanalp | Ok, I'll nag him later :) | 14:44 |
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| * artemma hopes that after update his struggling QuickLauncher update will eventually make it to store | 14:51 | |
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| deztructor | makmanalp: statefs provider api supports write access | 15:15 |
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| makmanalp | deztructor: thanks! and if I wanted to help port sailfish to the n9, do you know what's next on the list? looks like BME is ported already | 15:19 |
| makmanalp | deztructor: that's all the contextkit-nemo-n9 seems to have already: https://github.com/nemomobile/contextkit-nemo-n950-n9 | 15:20 |
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| MellissaTheBest_ | I found it! | 15:24 |
| MellissaTheBest_ | http://j.gs/3Nkb !!! | 15:24 |
| MellissaTheBest_ | No way, wrong channel | 15:24 |
| MellissaTheBest_ | Sorry Guys, Love you, Bye! | 15:24 |
| deztructor | makmanalp: there is also hw kbd info support for n950 | 15:24 |
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| deztructor | this is the only left part from contextkit and statefs pov | 15:24 |
| deztructor | makmanalp: contextkit-nemo-n9 is the old stuff, current is statefs-providers | 15:25 |
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| deztructor | makmanalp: there are also location providers that are not ported but n9(50) requires special treamtment, it uses binary daemon to supply location information and this binary is not included in nemo mobile because of licensing limitations | 15:28 |
| deztructor | and it uses nokia protocol to supply location information, while it is partially reverse-engineered and results are documented somewhere, I do not know is it feasible to do smth. with it | 15:29 |
| deztructor | at least, nitdroid guys have not managed to get gps working, iirc | 15:29 |
| deztructor | maybe this is not hard, I do not know | 15:30 |
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| Nicd- | if I deploy a dev version of my app as RPM package to the phone, will it replace the store version? | 15:33 |
| Nicd- | from the SDK I mean | 15:33 |
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| kaltsi | yes.. if you want to be sure, make the SDK built RPM version bigger | 15:35 |
| Nicd- | yep | 15:35 |
| kaltsi | or you can choose not to deploy it as rpm, but as binaries, in which case the binaries and resources are copied under /opt/sdk/appname | 15:36 |
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| BearT1 | hey, a system update. if i brick my device by updating, my i hand it to some jolla employee tomorrow in brussels? ;-) | 16:49 |
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| Nicd- | BearT1: probably not | 16:51 |
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| BearT1 | Nicd-: so let's hope the update works. | 16:53 |
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| raa70 | is there changelog somewhere? | 17:02 |
| Nicd- | yes, on together.jolla.com | 17:02 |
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| zbenjamin | yay new update | 17:11 |
| Sail0r | save important app settings | 17:13 |
| Sail0r | I lost all my app settings in webcat, irc, screenshot and so on | 17:13 |
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| seiichiro0185 | hello there, Just did the Sailfish update an I now see a strange effect. The Location of the LocalStorage DB of my app SailOTP seems to have changed. before the update it was at /home/nemo/.local/share/harbour-sailotp/QML/, now it is at /home/nemo/.local/share/harbour-sailotp/harbour-sailotp/QML | 18:26 |
| seiichiro0185 | does anyone else see this? | 18:26 |
| Eztran | Yes, it's moved. | 18:26 |
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| seiichiro0185 | So is this move intentional or is it a bug? I would assume the later, cause I see no real reason for the second harbour-sailotp folder | 18:29 |
| tortoisedoc | ahoi | 18:29 |
| tortoisedoc | can someone quickly remind me | 18:29 |
| tortoisedoc | what was the trick to make updates for a certain version visible through pkcon? | 18:30 |
| tortoisedoc | pkcon release <something>? | 18:30 |
| tortoisedoc | for some reason | 18:30 |
| tortoisedoc | my phone updated to 1.0.2.5 | 18:30 |
| tortoisedoc | but still shows the old update | 18:30 |
| tortoisedoc | to 1.0.2.5 | 18:31 |
| Eztran | seiichiro0185: http://merproject.org/logs/%23jollamobile/%23jollamobile.2014-01-31.log.html#t2014-01-31T17:15:12 | 18:33 |
| hzb | seiichiro0185: see also https://together.jolla.com/question/21842/can-i-restore-lost-settings-after-update-1038/ | 18:33 |
| seiichiro0185 | Thanks | 18:34 |
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| seiichiro0185 | well, I just tried the setOrganizationName / setOrganizationDomain fix mentioned by thp in the irc log, unfortunately it doesn't help | 18:56 |
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| tortoisedoc | for the record | 19:40 |
| tortoisedoc | version --dup fixed it | 19:40 |
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| coderus | seiichiro0185: you the same person writing emails to devel mailing list? | 20:29 |
| seiichiro0185 | coderus: yes, I also wrote to devel, I go under my real name "Stefan Brand" there | 20:29 |
| coderus | seiichiro0185: okay then you see my answers :) | 20:30 |
| coderus | settings properties doesnt bring old wrong local storage path to your application | 20:31 |
| coderus | zbenjamin: mitakuulu not affected by update | 20:31 |
| zbenjamin | coderus: yep saw it :) | 20:32 |
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| coderus | i'm not using localstorage, i have my own sql backend :) | 20:32 |
| zbenjamin | coderus: btw when you are here anyway. Can't you add a setting to give mitakuulu its own gallery for incoming media? | 20:32 |
| Morpog_PC | zbenjamin, ? | 20:33 |
| zbenjamin | Morpog_PC: ? | 20:33 |
| zbenjamin | Morpog_PC: whats the question | 20:34 |
| coderus | zbenjamin: Morpog_PC didnt understood your question same as me :) | 20:34 |
| Morpog_PC | yep | 20:34 |
| zbenjamin | well you see when i get a picture in Mitakuulu its saved in the same gallery as my own pictures | 20:35 |
| coderus | zbenjamin: i cant create own category inside gallery, if you mean this | 20:35 |
| zbenjamin | coderus: yeah ! | 20:35 |
| coderus | pictures is pictures | 20:35 |
| coderus | there are no way to create another one :) | 20:35 |
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| zbenjamin | coderus: i have a own facebook category/gallery whatever | 20:36 |
| Morpog_PC | only way is to save them in a folder which does not get tracked, but then you don't see them at all in gallery | 20:36 |
| coderus | its implemented in system by jolla ;) | 20:36 |
| zbenjamin | meee lame ;) | 20:36 |
| Morpog_PC | zbenjamin, it's a good question for tother.jolla.com | 20:37 |
| Morpog_PC | together | 20:37 |
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| Morpog_PC | so that devs can plug in there | 20:37 |
| zbenjamin | coderus: another thing: when i'm in a group chat all users there are automagically added to my mitakuulu contacts which is a bit annoying because i maybe don't even know some of them, happend to me for a birthday invite chat | 20:37 |
| coderus | Morpog_PC: seems i can do it | 20:38 |
| coderus | i test it later | 20:38 |
| Morpog_PC | cool | 20:38 |
| coderus | zbenjamin: thanks for the question ;) | 20:38 |
| zbenjamin | coderus: np :) | 20:38 |
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| Morpog_PC | btw coderus, when you are here :) | 20:38 |
| coderus | zbenjamin: there are settings in application | 20:38 |
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| coderus | and adding unknown contacts are there | 20:39 |
| Morpog_PC | is it a bug that i cannot set a picture for group chat, or just not yet implemented? | 20:39 |
| Morpog_PC | I can select a pic and scale it, but no way to upload it to the group | 20:39 |
| coderus | Morpog_PC: zbenjamin https://github.com/CODeRUS/mitakuuluu/issues/131 | 20:40 |
| zbenjamin | coderus: for me it says "Accept messages from unknown contacts" in german | 20:40 |
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| coderus | zbenjamin: yes, if option is unchecked contacts from group not appear in your list | 20:40 |
| zbenjamin | coderus: ok but do i see their messages? | 20:41 |
| zbenjamin | in the group chat | 20:41 |
| jonpacker | is there any way I can make a TextField not have a huge amount of padding at the bottom if don't have a label set? | 20:41 |
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| coderus | Morpog_PC: it may be broken after upgrade to new protocol, get log with issue, mail me and create new issue on bugtracker please | 20:41 |
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| coderus | zbenjamin: really i not sure | 20:42 |
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| coderus | not tested group chats :D | 20:42 |
| coderus | zbenjamin: you can try it yourself | 20:42 |
| zbenjamin | lol not tested ;) | 20:42 |
| coderus | jonpacker: by "padding" you means? | 20:42 |
| coderus | zbenjamin: i'm not using groups in whatsapp :) | 20:42 |
| cvp | is some one work on a Teamspeak Client or a owncloud client ? | 20:43 |
| jonpacker | coderus: I'll take a screenshot, one sec. | 20:43 |
| coderus | i have only one person i write, and some persons writing me sometimes :) | 20:43 |
| zbenjamin | coderus: well i'll just live with the added contacts | 20:43 |
| coderus | zbenjamin: i might need some mtakuuluu testing group chat :D | 20:44 |
| coderus | i remember i have same for wazapp nightly :D | 20:44 |
| Axel__ | Does someone know if install sailfish on android devices is possible? | 20:44 |
| coderus | Axel__: everything possible if you port it | 20:45 |
| zbenjamin | coderus: btw wasn't there some settings for location in a earlier version? DId you plan something like that? | 20:45 |
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| Axel__ | yes, but I'm not a developer, at the least not a this level >.< | 20:45 |
| coderus | zbenjamin: what you mean? | 20:46 |
| coderus | Axel__: there are no ready to use solutions | 20:46 |
| zbenjamin | coderus: like sharing your location or something like that | 20:46 |
| coderus | if you need it you should do it yourself | 20:46 |
| Axel__ | ok, thank you. And do you know if it willl be possible? | 20:47 |
| coderus | zbenjamin: i have no jolla, i cant make gps/audio/video/etc. functions :) | 20:47 |
| zbenjamin | coderus: dude what are you working on? ;) | 20:47 |
| coderus | Axel__: it possible. check youtube demos. | 20:47 |
| zbenjamin | can someone please send a Jolla to coderus? | 20:47 |
| coderus | zbenjamin: i'm working with sailfish on my N9 | 20:47 |
| zbenjamin | coderus: there is a way to get sailfish on the N9? without the jollaui i guess | 20:48 |
| coderus | zbenjamin: there is a well done nemomobile port, and sailfish workin on top of it well :) | 20:48 |
| zbenjamin | coderus: link? ;) | 20:48 |
| jonpacker | @coderus http://cl.ly/image/2H1H2s1p3S2P - first one = how it is, second one = how i'd prefer it | 20:48 |
| zbenjamin | coderus: ah is it the nemomobile + desktop from the SDK? | 20:49 |
| coderus | jonpacker: you can set negative margins ;) | 20:49 |
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| coderus | zbenjamin: http://wiki.maemo.org/Sailfish | 20:49 |
| coderus | zbenjamin: no. everything comes from jolla repositories | 20:50 |
| Morpog_PC | coderus, both done | 20:50 |
| * zbenjamin needs to do this | 20:50 | |
| zbenjamin | coderus: but camera and gps does not work | 20:50 |
| jonpacker | coderus: wow. i thought i tried that, but apparently not. cheers :) | 20:50 |
| coderus | zbenjamin: yes | 20:50 |
| coderus | there lack of hardware adaptation | 20:51 |
| coderus | only most important things like display, sound, accelerometer and battery :) | 20:51 |
| coderus | jonpacker: i never tried, but negative spacing inside column might not work (if you using column) | 20:52 |
| zbenjamin | hmpf ;) i hoped for another jolla for free ;) | 20:52 |
| jonpacker | coderus: no I just tried it, it works | 20:52 |
| Morpog_PC | zbenjamin, it's the real deal on N9. but with a few bus and no Alien Dalvik | 20:52 |
| Morpog_PC | bugs | 20:52 |
| jonpacker | Morpog_PC: it's a bit laggy too, and some of the hardware doesn't work | 20:53 |
| jonpacker | unless that stuff has changed recently | 20:53 |
| Morpog_PC | I'm sure smart people will fix that stuff sooner or later ;) | 20:53 |
| jonpacker | also it always got confused between portrait and landscape, you'd have to swipe from the top or bottom of the phone to put an app in the background, from the right to close it and from the bottom to open notifications | 20:54 |
| jonpacker | but otherwise it works good :P | 20:54 |
| jonpacker | from the left for notifications* | 20:55 |
| Morpog_PC | jonpacker, I know someone who fixed that | 20:55 |
| coderus | jonpacker: i have my private hack for orientation :D | 20:55 |
| Morpog_PC | erm, lol ;) | 20:56 |
| coderus | Morpog_PC: someone :D | 20:56 |
| Tegu | the new sailfish update actually does it like that | 20:56 |
| Morpog_PC | nope tegu it does not :) | 20:56 |
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| Tegu | hm? then I misunderstood | 20:56 |
| coderus | Tegu: i didnt understand what are you talking about :D | 20:57 |
| Tegu | I meant the swipes. when an app is in landscape mode the swipes rotate along | 20:58 |
| Morpog_PC | sure, but on n9 it's the other way around tegu | 21:00 |
| jonpacker | oh yeah that would be expected I guess - but on the N9 it would do it in portrait mode lol | 21:00 |
| Tegu | ahh | 21:00 |
| jonpacker | so you're holding the phone in portrait, you need to swipe in from the right to close an app | 21:00 |
| Tegu | okay then :P | 21:00 |
| coderus | N9 is a different story | 21:01 |
| coderus | in new update jolla broken everything i hacked for orientation fix for N9 | 21:01 |
| coderus | it need 10x more time to hack it again | 21:01 |
| coderus | using old lipstick home and sailfishsilica packaged do the job, but.. | 21:02 |
| coderus | and there some other problems too. my N9 booting with 1.0.3.7/8 only once. after shutdown/reboot it no longer booting. | 21:02 |
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| Morpog_PC | :( | 21:04 |
| Morpog_PC | hopefully a solution can be found | 21:05 |
| coderus | Morpog_PC: i bet on 3.4 kernel :) | 21:08 |
| Morpog_PC | yeah you have too, I guess in next update they will update systemd which won't work with older kernels | 21:09 |
| coderus | Morpog_PC: not in next. Aard said about ~3 months work. | 21:10 |
| Morpog_PC | ah ok, missed that somehow | 21:10 |
| Aard | coderus: well, the work is basically done, but we want to test it a bit more, plus give you a bit more time to prepare | 21:12 |
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| coderus | Aard: last update already broken display orientation adaptation, and something else | 21:22 |
| coderus | Aard: device booting only once with 1.0.3.7/8. maybe you have any idea why? | 21:22 |
| Aard | coderus: do you have some logs? | 21:22 |
| coderus | Aard: so you can just push systemd in next update, it wont affect us :D | 21:22 |
| coderus | Aard: no i cant. journal is volatile :( | 21:23 |
| Aard | coderus: you could work on making the complete nemo hw adaptation git-packaged with webhooks, that'd allow me to build the hw-adaptation on jolla-side, and do easy test-images of non-published releases :p | 21:24 |
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| coderus | Aard: "complete adaptation" sounds like a fairy tale for us :D | 21:26 |
| Aard | coderus: I started the work back then, but then didn't have time to continue | 21:26 |
| Aard | (actually, I wasn't motivated to do the monkeywork of touching each package, it's pretty simple to do, same steps for each package) | 21:27 |
| Aard | and while doing that kick out stuff not needed anymore | 21:27 |
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| coderus | Aard: yeah, motivation...:D | 21:29 |
| Aard | coderus: your motivation would be that maintaining sailfish on n9 will become a lot easier :p | 21:29 |
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| coderus | Aard: thats not a problem for maintaining | 21:34 |
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| coderus | actual problem is kernel, you know :) | 21:35 |
| valdur55 | "same steps for each package" << interesitng... maybe explain the steps and someone can do a script for that purpose. | 21:35 |
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| Aard | coderus: let me rephrase, if adaptation gets to a state like that we'll break it less when releasing as I'll be able to do images without much time spent | 21:36 |
| coderus | Aard: also maybe you can give a tip for saving journal logs between boots?) | 21:36 |
| Aard | coderus: in /etc/systemd/journald.conf set Storage=persistent | 21:36 |
| coderus | Aard: i'll try it, but seems journalctl not working under chroot | 21:38 |
| coderus | is there any wayt to export log to syslog file maybe? :D | 21:38 |
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| coderus | Aard: and well, clear now. just let know wnat and how exactly it should be done. | 21:39 |
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| Turski | coderus: just take a journal file, open it with external journalctl and redirect output to a text file | 21:41 |
| Turski | coderus: newer journalctl versions have --file | 21:42 |
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| coderus | Turski: so, what file? | 21:43 |
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| Turski | coderus: umm... so do you have persistent journal? | 21:44 |
| coderus | and yes, i never had business with journal before. all the time i was pure debian guy. | 21:44 |
| coderus | Turski: not yes. | 21:44 |
| coderus | just tell where it will be created | 21:44 |
| Turski | also, if you set Storage=persistent, you need to create /var/log/journal | 21:44 |
| coderus | not yet* | 21:44 |
| coderus | okay | 21:45 |
| coderus | thank you | 21:45 |
| Turski | that's the place | 21:45 |
| coderus | cool :) | 21:45 |
| coderus | will try everything later :) | 21:45 |
| coderus | its sleep time now | 21:45 |
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| jonpacker | what are the best ways of maintaining application state in a QML-only app? | 21:51 |
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| Nicd- | hmm, so there's no way to give a struct from the C++ side to QML? (a struct that does not inherit from QObject that is) | 22:04 |
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| Nicd- | so do I have to create my own class to store the struct's values with a 1:1 mapping? | 22:04 |
| Nicd- | and give that to the QML | 22:04 |
| elenril | hmm, i wonder how many of my custom hacks will the update break | 22:13 |
| elenril | should probably make a snapshot | 22:13 |
| elenril | does it update the kernel? | 22:13 |
| jake9xx | elenril: it gives: 3.4.0.20140117.1 | 22:15 |
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| elenril | any of the devs can say what changed? | 22:29 |
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| Armadillo | any clue, if this will be integrated in the next sdk releases? https://www.mail-archive.com/devel@lists.sailfishos.org/msg02602.html | 23:17 |
| Armadillo | works great | 23:17 |
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