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| taixzo | Hello! I am trying to make an XKCD reader app. I want to make a list of comics; I'm using a SilicaListView with Item as delegate, but I can't figure out how to make the elements clickable. | 03:47 |
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| Elleo | taixzo: have a MouseArea inside the item with anchors.fill: parent | 03:48 |
| Elleo | then use the onTriggered signal from the MouseArea to do stuff | 03:48 |
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| taixzo | MouseArea doesn't seem to have an "onTriggered" signal? | 04:00 |
| Elleo | sorry, onClicked | 04:02 |
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| narchie | coderus: reading your issuetracker | 08:19 |
| narchie | is it true whatsapp just recently changed sync mechanisms? | 08:19 |
| narchie | I'm getting 404 although a week ago everything was working perfectly | 08:19 |
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| KhertanAtwork | Morning | 08:25 |
| tachikoma | moin | 08:26 |
| KhertanAtwork | Stskeeps, sorry for the tweets mass spamming :) i ve included you as you helped me yesterday. | 08:27 |
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| KhertanAtwork | that was not a fair gift :) | 08:27 |
| KhertanAtwork | I'm currently trying to automate a bit the release of one of my apps after having made crappy release with different release version in different place. | 08:28 |
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| KhertanAtwork | so i m using the git commit comment and tag to generate changelog and version but how can i get the release version from the .pro in the .yaml ? | 08:29 |
| KhertanAtwork | any idea ? | 08:29 |
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| radiofree | where do i report bugs to? | 09:40 |
| radiofree | found quite a few, a lot in the browser | 09:40 |
| Vostok | here! | 09:40 |
| radiofree | well, the browser fails to render a couple of websites incorrectly, e.g the tables on the mobile version of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999%E2%80%932000_Manchester_City_F.C._season | 09:42 |
| radiofree | (not sure how to link the mobile version) | 09:42 |
| radiofree | the tables for the squad render off screen, and you can't move around to see it | 09:42 |
| radiofree | have noticed this behaviour on a few tumblr pages as well | 09:42 |
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| KhertanAtwork | many site using Bootstrap2 tend to have not usable scroll down nav bar | 09:43 |
| Sidde | radiofree: i've notised that tables and divs can start floating on top of each other. For example in Plex Web | 09:43 |
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| Nicd- | radiofree: you can make posts on together.jolla.com | 09:47 |
| radiofree | ok | 09:48 |
| radiofree | the battery life is pretty poor as well, is NFC running all the time? | 09:48 |
| Nicd- | yes, that is a known bug | 09:49 |
| mibrunin | radiofree: yep, you can disable it by stopping and or disabling the tohd service | 09:49 |
| Nicd- | the bug is that instead of shutting off NFC when OH is connected, it actually turns it on AFAIK | 09:49 |
| radiofree | numerous wifi issues as well, to the extent where i just use 3g, however i'll test them more over the weekend and see if i can came up with a proper test case | 09:50 |
| * mibrunin thinks there should be a setting to disable NFC as there was on the N9 | 09:50 | |
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| eppe | ( Jolla phone ) After a couple of unsuccessful recovery attempts, and 1 successful i am still in a boot loop. Anyone have an idea what todo next? | 09:54 |
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| tbr | eppe: what made you try recovery initially? | 09:59 |
| eppe | phone started to be unresponsive looonger boots, random reboots etc | 10:00 |
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| tbr | and you didn't do a factory reset instead of recovery first? | 10:00 |
| eppe | oh sorry factory reset trough the menu on the phone. Then trough telnet | 10:01 |
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| vegai | wrtt | 10:09 |
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| thesignal | is there anyone from the jolla devs? my app is "published" since ages, it does not show up in store and nobody answers my emails | 10:49 |
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| zuh | thesignal: define "since ages"? | 10:56 |
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| thesignal | zuh: two weeks, it was even published a month ago, but i resubmitted because someone told me the package-naming could be a problem | 11:02 |
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| kontio | thesignal: what is the apps name? | 11:07 |
| thesignal | kontio: "Ohm" | 11:08 |
| kontio | thesignal: let me check with the guys... | 11:09 |
| thesignal | kontio: thanks | 11:09 |
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| kontio | thesignal: hmm seems your app is playing hide and seek, seems the app is not in the queue at all, what does the webui say about your app, in which state is it? | 11:12 |
| thesignal | kontio: "PUBLISHED" | 11:12 |
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| kontio | thesignal: and it didn't show up in Store yet? | 11:14 |
| kontio | what was the package name? | 11:14 |
| thesignal | kontio: no, nowhere. also tried searching it | 11:14 |
| thesignal | kontio: harbour-ohm-1.0.1-1.armv7hl.rpm | 11:15 |
| kontio | so far that looks ok... but it seems your resubmission was not successful, can you please go to the apps upload page in harbour and remove the Binary (click on the cross), upload the latest version of your rpm again, and click the "Submit to QA" button on the left again... | 11:16 |
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| kontio | thesignal: ^ and ask around what happened otherwise with your app... | 11:17 |
| kontio | thesignal: once done, ping me, then I ask if it showed up in the queue... | 11:17 |
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| thesignal | kontio: uploaded and submitted | 11:18 |
| kontio | thesignal: ok it's now in the queue... why the already approved did not yet show up in the Store I have to ask the admins, if they see something... | 11:22 |
| thesignal | kontio: thanks for investigating that | 11:22 |
| kontio | thesignal: np | 11:23 |
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| leszek | hi | 12:34 |
| leszek | how can I access my view (QQuickView) from a class where I put my slot for a qml signal in cpp ? | 12:36 |
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| ericcc | https://openrepos.net/content/tanghus/kitchen-timer a nice app | 12:48 |
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| tanghus_ | ericcc: thanks :) Current version is a bit battery hungry and will probably be rejected in harbour. Currently working on next version. | 12:49 |
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| ericcc | tanghus_: hi how can put it to qt-create and run build | 12:51 |
| tanghus_ | ericcc: you should be able to just open harbour-kitchentimer.pro. | 12:52 |
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| ericcc | and then | 12:54 |
| tanghus_ | Set as current project and run select build | 12:54 |
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| BeholdMyGlory | When launching a QML-only application using sailfish-qml $appname it seems that the paths provided by StandardPaths are based on 'sailfish-qml' rather than '$appname', e.g. StandardPaths.data returns ~/.local/share/sailfish-qml instead of ~/.local/share/$appname. Similarly, LocalStorage.openDatabaseSync creates the database file in ~/.local/share/sailfish-qml/QML/OfflineStorage/Databases. Is there any way to make the paths use the | 13:01 |
| BeholdMyGlory | application name instead? | 13:01 |
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| jake9xx | thp: ^ | 13:04 |
| ericcc | tanghus: I CANNOT BUILD | 13:07 |
| tanghus | ericcc: No need to shout ;) What error do you get? Disclaimer: I'm very new to qt-creator. | 13:07 |
| thp | BeholdMyGlory: yeah, this probably should be fixed in libsailfishapp directly. for now, you should be able to use http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5.0/qtcore/qcoreapplication.html#applicationName-prop as a workaround | 13:08 |
| ericcc | tanghus: see it http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add&errors=Choose+an+image+to+upload. | 13:08 |
| thp | BeholdMyGlory: i.e. app->setApplicationName("harbour-myapp"); - this is probably what the launcher should do, anyway | 13:09 |
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| tanghus | ericcc: your link has no image in it | 13:09 |
| thp | BeholdMyGlory: can you confirm that with this change, the storage paths are the correct ones? | 13:09 |
| ericcc | http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add&errors=Choose+an+image+to+upload. | 13:09 |
| ericcc | wait | 13:09 |
| ericcc | http://imagebin.org/287007 | 13:09 |
| BeholdMyGlory | thp: Do I need to write a C++ launcher to run setApplicationName? | 13:09 |
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| tanghus | ericcc: try to click the icon to the left and select build options. | 13:11 |
| thp | BeholdMyGlory: good point ;) so yeah, we'll need to fix this in the launcher | 13:11 |
| BeholdMyGlory | Any idea when I can expect it to be fixed? | 13:12 |
| thp | BeholdMyGlory: i'll fix it right away, but it needs to trickle into the release repo. for now, use a c++ launcher (at which point it will actually work again, as sailfish-qml isn't used) | 13:13 |
| ericcc | tanghus: select build options. i put the green build button ,but noting happen | 13:14 |
| ericcc | on it send me 分析文件C:/Users/Administrator/kitchen-timer-qml-master/kitchen-timer-qml-master/harbour-kitchentimer.pro时发生错误，放弃中。 | 13:14 |
| BeholdMyGlory | thp: Aight, thanks | 13:14 |
| tanghus | ericcc: you need to start the build engine and emulator first. | 13:14 |
| ericcc | only the sdk not see engine | 13:15 |
| ericcc | see pic | 13:15 |
| ericcc | C:/Users/Administrator/kitchen-timer-qml-master/kitchen-timer-qml-master/harbour-kitchentimer.pro An error occurs, abandon the. | 13:16 |
| tanghus | ericcc: they both need to be red. When they're green they're not running. | 13:16 |
| ericcc | new pic http://imagebin.org/287008 | 13:18 |
| tanghus | ericcc: Have you following the introduction and tried to create your own app first? https://sailfishos.org/develop.html | 13:18 |
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| tanghus | I can't read the Chinese(?) error messages, so can't help you there, sorry. | 13:19 |
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| ericcc | yes i can create new app ,and it is can run.but you code which i downd is can not run | 13:19 |
| tanghus | Can you translate the error messages to English. please? | 13:20 |
| jake9xx | ericcc: can you look at the window 'Compile output' plesae | 13:21 |
| jake9xx | please | 13:21 |
| ericcc | translte it : | 13:21 |
| ericcc | C:/Users/Administrator/kitchen-timer-qml-master/kitchen-timer-qml-master/harbour-kitchentimer.pro An error occurs, abandon the. | 13:21 |
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| thp | BeholdMyGlory: https://github.com/sailfish-sdk/libsailfishapp/pull/2 | 13:22 |
| ericcc | jake9xx: yes i can see but it had noting | 13:23 |
| ericcc | jake9xx: you can down it https://github.com/tanghus/kitchen-timer-qml/archive/master.zip | 13:24 |
| tanghus | ericcc: please do as jake9xx suggested and look under 'Compile output' and also 'Issues' | 13:24 |
| ericcc | and put in the qt-create | 13:24 |
| jake9xx | issues is just overview, in compile output you should see what is going on | 13:25 |
| tanghus | ericcc: you can also try last release: https://github.com/tanghus/kitchen-timer-qml/archive/v0.1.1.zip | 13:25 |
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| ericcc | http://imagebin.org/287009 | 13:28 |
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| tanghus | ericcc: can't you scroll in the output? Otherwise check under 'Issues'. The first tab from the left. | 13:29 |
| ericcc | ok i will redown zip | 13:30 |
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| leszek | how can I access the QQuickView from main.cpp in a subclass myClass which acts as slot handler class ? | 13:32 |
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| ericcc | http://imagebin.org/287011 noting | 13:33 |
| ericcc | http://imagebin.org/287013 :( | 13:36 |
| leszek | thats the code I use. Anyone an idea ? http://pastebin.com/fWBmxXN3 | 13:36 |
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| ericcc | somebody have teamview? | 13:37 |
| tanghus | ericcc: click on tab number 1 which has 21 written. It means there are 21 issues/errors. | 13:38 |
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| tanghus | You used https://github.com/tanghus/kitchen-timer-qml/archive/v0.1.1.zip ? | 13:39 |
| ericcc | It means there are 21 issues/errors. nonot it is my code is run | 13:39 |
| ericcc | not you code run. you code not errors | 13:39 |
| ericcc | yes i redown https://github.com/tanghus/kitchen-timer-qml/archive/v0.1.1.zip | 13:40 |
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| tanghus | Ah, sorry I can't be of more help. I don't know qt-creator good enough to remote debug. | 13:40 |
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| ericcc | tanghus: i rebuidl the code see the err:Qmake source directory is not supported under the build directory. | 13:50 |
| ericcc | my pc is win7 | 13:50 |
| ericcc | DEPLOYMENT_PATH = /usr/share/$${TARGET}.... | 13:51 |
| ericcc | i found it | 13:51 |
| tanghus | ericcc: sorry, I don't know that error message, but it sounds like you need to change the build options. | 13:51 |
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| Custodian | ericcc: enable shadow build at build settings | 13:51 |
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| ericcc | tanghus: you code developer on linux?not win? | 13:56 |
| tanghus | ericcc: yes, I develop on Linux | 13:56 |
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| ericcc | so you code cant run on win7 | 14:01 |
| ericcc | need change anythind:) | 14:01 |
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| tanghus | ericcc: I don't know about Windows. You should ask on the mailing list. I've seen some others struggling with the SDK on Windows | 14:04 |
| kaltsi | there's nothing wrong with windows sdk | 14:04 |
| kaltsi | same sources can be compiled in windows, in linux and in mac | 14:04 |
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| kaltsi | it's not possible to see what is wrong in this case from the provided screenshots | 14:05 |
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| ericcc | kaltsi can you have teamview | 14:07 |
| kaltsi | sorry, no | 14:08 |
| ericcc | i put his code and can see enginer | 14:08 |
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| ericcc | kaltsi: can you see the http://imagebin.org/287011 machine is display only Emulator | 14:13 |
| ericcc | machine is not display | 14:14 |
| kaltsi | ericcc: you have 'arm' target selected, it has no emulator.. see the red circle over the "play" button.. that indicates that you have an arm target selected | 14:14 |
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| kaltsi | ericcc: emulator is an 'i486' target | 14:15 |
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| javispedro | Soo... I think xwayland on lipstick will be hard (TM) | 14:17 |
| Stskeeps | how come? | 14:18 |
| javispedro | the differences between qtwayland and weston seem to be many | 14:18 |
| Stskeeps | true | 14:18 |
| Stskeeps | have you considered running weston nested underneath qtwayland? | 14:18 |
| * w00t twitches | 14:18 | |
| leszek | is there any possibility to clear the cookies from a webview without manually removing them from ~/.local/share/ ? | 14:18 |
| w00t | Stskeeps: you're demonstrating the principles of computing (nothing that can't be solved without another layer of indirection) rather well :) | 14:19 |
| * javispedro pokes w00t and hopes he has some comments | 14:19 | |
| Stskeeps | w00t: mir under xwayland under weston under weston under hwcomposer! | 14:19 |
| w00t | javispedro: unfortunately I don't have anything of substance to offer - I've been x11-free ever since we switched in 2013 and I totally plan on keeping it that way for my sanity | 14:19 |
| javispedro | Stskeeps: no, and atm I have got no idea how would that even work =) | 14:20 |
| ericcc | kaltsi: yes how i add 'i486' target | 14:20 |
| Stskeeps | javispedro: well, weston as a wayland client.. | 14:20 |
| javispedro | oh | 14:20 |
| javispedro | wayland+weston over wayland+qtwayland | 14:21 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 14:21 |
| javispedro | interesting. | 14:21 |
| Stskeeps | so x clients -> xwayland -> weston -> qtwayland | 14:21 |
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| kaltsi | ericcc: in qtcreator, on the left side there is "Projects" tab.. select it, and then from that view, "Add Kit" and select the i486 kit | 14:21 |
| Stskeeps | there's no way that couldn't perform | 14:21 |
| javispedro | I was also thinking about a KDrive derivative that just renders to a wayland surface (that seemed like few LoCs) | 14:21 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 14:21 |
| Stskeeps | javispedro: isn't there like SDL x backends? | 14:22 |
| javispedro | yes | 14:22 |
| Stskeeps | fwiw, just so you're aware, libx11 is gone in next sailfishos update, but, this of course doesn't stop chroot like setups | 14:22 |
| Stskeeps | and in practice you'd want to have a debian chroot or whichever anyway | 14:22 |
| javispedro | I have some experience with kdrive (I once made a (indirectly) accelerated one for webos) | 14:22 |
| javispedro | Stskeeps: yeah, that's the goal | 14:22 |
| javispedro | (or X11 redirection) | 14:23 |
| Stskeeps | have you looked at glamo or what was it | 14:23 |
| Stskeeps | glamor | 14:23 |
| javispedro | not yet, kdrive doesn't use glamor at all (for all I know) | 14:23 |
| javispedro | aiui glamor is just a "generic" 2D driver for the full xserver that uses gl | 14:23 |
| Stskeeps | wel | 14:23 |
| Stskeeps | it also exists in a glesv2 form. | 14:23 |
| javispedro | basically if one was going to use the full xserver (or xwayland) he'd need that | 14:24 |
| javispedro | but that's way too complex for me atm. | 14:24 |
| Stskeeps | mm | 14:24 |
| Stskeeps | what's the specific x11 interest fwiw? sw collection? | 14:26 |
| javispedro | mostly, running the debian/gentoo chroot | 14:26 |
| Stskeeps | practically i'd just suggest having something x11-y that makes wayland shm buffers | 14:27 |
| javispedro | yeah, that's kdrive :) | 14:27 |
| ericcc | kaltsi: thank much .it can run | 14:27 |
| kaltsi | ericcc: good :) | 14:27 |
| ericcc | and thank you tanghus | 14:27 |
| javispedro | Stskeeps: but your idea of x11 over wayland over wayland might work too, even if it's ideologically much more complex it may be doable with 0 LoCs. | 14:28 |
| javispedro | well.. maybe input handling... | 14:28 |
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| tanghus | ericcc: You can build it? That's great :) | 14:30 |
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| zmc | Are there any publicly available jolla builds that I can experiment with on my various arm devices yet? | 14:37 |
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| narchie | where is the mail logging file located | 14:52 |
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| narchie | incredibly annoying to configure mail accounts when the error messages are cryptic | 14:52 |
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| joonahoi | does someone have an idea about python3-base package (from mer-python3 repo), is there going to be an package compiled with SSL anytime soon? | 14:54 |
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| Elleo | joonahoi: I suspect thp would be the person to ask | 14:56 |
| kelvan | if anybody knows it it's thp :) | 14:57 |
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| Elleo | joonahoi: filing an issue on https://github.com/mer-python3/python3 might help too | 14:58 |
| kelvan | anybody interested in nmap, libpcap and tcpdump on sailfishos? just finished building at it seems to work | 14:58 |
| thp | joonahoi: use the nemo repos instead; https://github.com/nemomobile-packages/python3/commit/bbe3f602812fee5aaa0cfad093b8d12937b91054 | 14:59 |
| Elleo | ah, my mistake | 15:00 |
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| joonahoi | ok, cool. will do | 15:00 |
| joonahoi | thanks | 15:00 |
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| ZioBilly | Hi, i have a boot loop problem, i've been told to show up in here and to contact @Stskeeps but he doesn't reply to my messages.... if you are busy at least say it to me.. i have my device down for two weeks til now, and i still haven't received any answer.. | 15:04 |
| Stskeeps | ZioBilly: is it 1.0.2.5 and the recovery method doesn't help / says invalid argument? | 15:04 |
| ZioBilly | i installed the last update, the recovery says [CLEANUP] Starting cleanup! [CLEANUP] Umounting top volume... [CLEANUP] Deleting /mnt [CLEANUP] Cleanup done. Mounting /dev/mmcblk0p28 on /mnt mount: mounting /dev/mmcblk0p28 on /mnt failed: Invalid argument [ERROR] Can't mount '/dev/mmcblk0p28' to '/mnt' [CLEANUP] Starting cleanup! [CLEANUP] Umounting top volume... [CLEANUP] Deleting /mnt [CLEANUP] Cleanup done. Connection closed | 15:05 |
| ZioBilly | thanks for answering =) | 15:05 |
| Stskeeps | sadly you have to send your device to service, there's no other way | 15:05 |
| ZioBilly | how can i contact someone to send the device? where do i have to send it? shoud i pay the spedition? | 15:06 |
| Stskeeps | you have to go through care@jolla.com | 15:07 |
| ZioBilly | i emailed them 2 weeks ago and still have no answer | 15:07 |
| Stskeeps | they have a bit of backlog | 15:07 |
| flux | btw, did someone already provide steps on how to make an image of the phone and restore it? | 15:07 |
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| ZioBilly | the fact that after installing the update it keeps saying that there was an update may change something? | 15:10 |
| Stskeeps | ZioBilly: not really no | 15:10 |
| Stskeeps | that's just a bug | 15:10 |
| ZioBilly | ah ok.. so if sending to service is the only way, i have to keep waiting, i hope that will not pass too much time and that i will not have to spend other money.. | 15:11 |
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| Stskeeps | just a SW R&D person here, care is not visible to me :/ | 15:12 |
| Stskeeps | just saying diagnosis | 15:12 |
| ericcc | tanghus: yes it looks nice on win7 | 15:13 |
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| Tumeez | Hmm.. How I can fix Jolla-account login problem? | 16:23 |
| Tumeez | My friend Jolla store not working. | 16:23 |
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| BeholdMyGlory | Does anyone know if it's possible to set the maximum width of a Label, i.e. not a constant width but a limit on how wide the Label can be? | 16:35 |
| BeholdMyGlory | Never mind, I just noticed that Item has an implicitWidth property, so I could set the Label's width to Math.min(implicitWidth, myMaxWidth) | 16:39 |
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| joonahoi | Elleo, thp, thanks. works like a charm | 17:19 |
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| rcg | Elleo, https://github.com/ruedigergad/SkippingStones | 20:12 |
| rcg | it's just a proof of concept right now but it works | 20:12 |
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| rcg | one thing to take into account: the discovery does not work, at the moment | 20:12 |
| rcg | seems to be a driver or api issue but i am not sure | 20:13 |
| rcg | however, entering the address manually and then connecting works | 20:13 |
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| rcg | from there it essentially is just a matter of re-implementing the functionality as showcased in libpebble in qt | 20:14 |
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| alight | anyone knows if it's possible to get access to the headphone jacket to check signals from headsets with buttons and stuff? | 20:21 |
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| attah | alight: pretty sure Elleo does it here: https://github.com/Elleo/cutespotify | 20:28 |
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| leszek | anyone knows how to handle cookies on the silicawebview or normal webview ? It doesn't work like it used to be on qt4 | 20:32 |
| alight | I'm pretty tired of headphones and headsets not working | 20:32 |
| attah | hmm, yeah maybe it's not in the OS yet | 20:32 |
| tortoisedoc | hmm | 20:33 |
| tortoisedoc | someone ever tried to put qml files in extension plugins? | 20:33 |
| tortoisedoc | (perhaps an obivious question, but for me it does not seem to work) | 20:34 |
| tortoisedoc | qml in ressource -> ressource in plugin | 20:34 |
| tortoisedoc | to access qml: qrc:/qml/myqml.qml | 20:34 |
| tortoisedoc | qml not found :( | 20:34 |
| alight | I'll check the git repo and see if I find anything, thanks | 20:34 |
| leszek | damn it the documentation is so damn bad that I am sitting 2 days on doing only cookies in qt5 webview. I just give up it isn't worth it | 20:36 |
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| Elleo | attah: I only have some stuff for bluetooth buttons ported over from meego (which doesn't actually work in sailfish yet) | 20:47 |
| Elleo | alight: ^ | 20:48 |
| attah | aligt: sorry :( | 20:48 |
| Elleo | although bluetooth buttons seem to be usable somehow as the official player supports them | 20:48 |
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| attah | okay :) and those qmls are on the device.. | 20:49 |
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| Elleo | I think that's handled in the c++ side of the media player | 20:50 |
| Elleo | although I haven't looked in detail | 20:50 |
| Elleo | the media player qml does lots of stuff through the com.jolla.mediaplayer qml plugin | 20:50 |
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| rcg | Elleo, while you are around | 21:09 |
| Elleo | rcg: yep? | 21:09 |
| rcg | do you, or anyone else, happen to know if it is possible to send commands to the mediaplayer? | 21:10 |
| Elleo | rcg: it's currently not, but I've been pestering people to add it :P https://together.jolla.com/question/313/add-dbus-interface-to-stock-music-player/ | 21:10 |
| rcg | i know that it doesn't send info on its own, e.g., via dbus and i also know, at least some, of your posts at together.jolla.com but i wonder if there is at least some way to, say, do next, prev, pause :) | 21:11 |
| Elleo | not as far as I know, you can pick up some now playing data by look at the meta data information on the pulse streams iirc | 21:11 |
| Elleo | I think that's what the scrobbling client does | 21:11 |
| rcg | hmm ic | 21:11 |
| Elleo | but nothing to actually control it so far | 21:11 |
| rcg | alright | 21:11 |
| Elleo | I don't know if faking the equivelant of bluetooth media key presses is possible, if so that might work | 21:12 |
| Elleo | although probably wouldn't be harbour safe | 21:12 |
| rcg | aye | 21:12 |
| rcg | well, in the current state i don't care for harbour-safe a lot | 21:12 |
| Elleo | if it was X I'd say try sending XF86AudioPlay/Pause/Next key events and see if those are picked up | 21:13 |
| rcg | bluetooth isn't allowed anyhow, so the hacks can get as ugly as it goes :) | 21:13 |
| Elleo | dunno how wayland does that sort of thing | 21:13 |
| Elleo | ah, heh | 21:13 |
| rcg | hehe, indeed, if it was X :) | 21:13 |
| rcg | i guess i need to learn much more about the new stuff :) | 21:13 |
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| rcg | Elleo, btw., did you see the link above? | 21:14 |
| rcg | all help is appreciated to re-coding the libpebble functionality in qt :) | 21:14 |
| Elleo | rcg: oh no, missed that | 21:14 |
| Elleo | will take a look now | 21:14 |
| rcg | if you have any preferences license-wise, just let me know | 21:14 |
| rcg | i assume that this may be useful for a bunch of others too, if we could come up with some qt implementation of the pebble protocol | 21:15 |
| Elleo | rcg: well rockwatch is GPL, so anything GPL compatible (from a linking standpoint) is fine with me | 21:16 |
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| rcg | alright, then i will stick with gpl for now | 21:16 |
| rcg | i might change it to 2 as i have 3 right now and some people don't like GPLv3 | 21:17 |
| Elleo | LGPL or BSD/MIT/whatever might be more appropriate for a library since then anyone writing BSD/MIT/whatever licensed things can link against it too | 21:17 |
| rcg | then, otoh, the actual protocol implementation might become even more open | 21:17 |
| rcg | yep | 21:17 |
| rcg | well, right now, it is not even in the state of becoming a lib but well, i just looked at it for some hours now | 21:18 |
| rcg | ideally, as much as interaction should be possible via qml imho | 21:18 |
| smokex | how about a decent file system monitoring library that supports subdirectories | 21:18 |
| rcg | this way you don't need to re-compile all the time but just hack-away in qml :) | 21:18 |
| smokex | that a nice library | 21:19 |
| Elleo | rcg: iirc javispedro was working on a Qt based bluetooth low energy lib, dunno if its worth looking into that (although I'm not sure sailfish supports lower energy stuff yet) | 21:19 |
| Elleo | rcg: yeah, having it build as a qml plugin would be pretty sweet | 21:19 |
| rcg | Elleo, yeah, gato or something, i think | 21:19 |
| Elleo | yeah, that was it | 21:19 |
| smokex | tracker is terrible | 21:20 |
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| rcg | in the current state, i still need to get a better overview of the pebble protocol and how it works | 21:20 |
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| rcg | what i want to find out primarily is, how to minimize the c++ part and implement most stuff in qml | 21:21 |
| Elleo | rcg: yeah, you might want to poke at some of the 2.0 stuff as well, as I know some stuff is changing a bit (it's not 1.x backwards compatible apparently) | 21:21 |
| rcg | oh, i see | 21:21 |
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| rcg | well, those are all big plans and i'll do one small step after the other :) | 21:21 |
| Elleo | interestingly 2.0 adds a standardised javascript component to pebble apps that gets hosted on the phone, which could probably be quite nicely handled within QML | 21:21 |
| Elleo | rcg: yeah, of course take things in small chunks :) | 21:22 |
| Elleo | just wanted to make sure you didn't accidentally end up implementing a bunch of stuff that ends up deprecated in a few weeks ;) | 21:22 |
| rcg | sound interesting | 21:23 |
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| Elleo | yeah, I haven't looked at it in detail yet myself though | 21:24 |
| rcg | aye, the heads up is definitely highly appreciated :) | 21:24 |
| Elleo | :) | 21:24 |
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| alight | sry, went afk a while. still there Elleo? | 21:55 |
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| Elleo | alight: yep | 22:00 |
| alight | I was thinking of directly tapping into the hardware | 22:00 |
| alight | do people even do that? :P | 22:00 |
| alight | I only played with an arduino and some connector boards | 22:01 |
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| John24 | good evening guys | 22:01 |
| alight | but I guess the principles are the same? or is the headphone jack weird somehow? | 22:02 |
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| John24 | is there any way to display alerts to users? | 22:02 |
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| John24 | like connection lost? etc. | 22:02 |
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| Elleo | alight: sorry, I don't know what sort of signal the headphone stuff sends, it might be exposed by something in /proc/ I guess | 22:09 |
| Elleo | I'm only guessing though | 22:10 |
| Elleo | err, /sys/ sorry | 22:10 |
| alight | np, any pointers are good. | 22:10 |
| Elleo | /sys/kernel/debug/tracing/events/asoc/snd_soc_jack_* makes it sound like there might be an interrupt from the jack socket you might be able to listen for | 22:12 |
| Elleo | but you might do well to ask someone who actually knows about these things :P | 22:12 |
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| javispedro | Elleo: btw. If you were interested, Bluetooth low energy scanning is broken: https://together.jolla.com/question/9309/bug-bluetooth-le-scan-kills-wlan-connection/ | 22:17 |
| Elleo | javispedro: thanks, I'll add that to my list of things to follow :) | 22:19 |
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| John24 | so is it possible to display messages on the screen? | 22:22 |
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| faenil | javispedro, it seems none has a qualcomm android device to confirm that issue :/ | 22:28 |
| javispedro | yeah, don't look at me :) | 22:28 |
| faenil | :) | 22:28 |
| javispedro | *cough* technically the jolla itself is a qualcomm android device, though. | 22:29 |
| faenil | javispedro, of course...that is the reason of the request... | 22:29 |
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| javispedro | alarmingly, HTC says the HTC Mini 8930AA does not support BLE. | 22:36 |
| javispedro | err.. the HTC Mini One, which has a 8930AA. | 22:37 |
| javispedro | though as I just wrote on together.j.c connecting to BLE works fine, it's just scanning | 22:37 |
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| javispedro | even passive scanning, which should not actually transfer anything | 22:38 |
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| M4rtinK | any official way to run a qml file by path ? | 22:53 |
| M4rtinK | without that retarded "has to be in /usr/share/<name>/qml/<name>.qml" policy ? | 22:54 |
| M4rtinK | & would also like to add custom import paths | 22:54 |
| Elleo | M4rtinK: there's qmlscene but I don't think it's officially supported | 22:54 |
| M4rtinK | yeah, I've been using it till now and I think it might have some issues | 22:54 |
| Elleo | yeah, iirc it doesn't set some of the stuff sailfish-qml does, so covers aren't quite right for example | 22:55 |
| M4rtinK | specifically not shutting down the application once the window is closed | 22:55 |
| M4rtinK | basically the app is not getting the shutdown event | 22:55 |
| Elleo | ah, haven't noticed that, but I tend to just use it for some quick testing that gets ended with a ctrl-c | 22:55 |
| M4rtinK | yeah, might be another artifact of not running it through the "official" app | 22:56 |
| M4rtinK | qmlscene ignores that :) | 22:56 |
| Elleo | you could probably make a more generic qml loader quite easily though | 22:56 |
| M4rtinK | at least in my case | 22:56 |
| M4rtinK | yeah, basically already working on it | 22:56 |
| M4rtinK | on device :) | 22:56 |
| Elleo | :) | 22:56 |
| M4rtinK | don't want to bother outdated SDK | 22:56 |
| M4rtinK | *to update | 22:57 |
| M4rtinK | I think I'll just hardcode the paths to binary for the time being :D | 22:57 |
| Elleo | heh | 22:57 |
| M4rtinK | hmm | 23:00 |
| M4rtinK | Project ERROR: Unknown module(s) in QT: quick gui | 23:00 |
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| M4rtinK | hmm, looks like I'm not able to install qtgui and qtquick devel packages... | 23:03 |
| M4rtinK | due to missing libEGL-devel | 23:03 |
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| winfriedd | @John24: notifications are following free desktop notifications | 23:06 |
| winfriedd | There was some info about it on the devel mailing list some 10 days ago | 23:07 |
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| M4rtinK | managed to run it with original sailfish-qml in the end | 23:33 |
| M4rtinK | with HUGE hacking :) | 23:33 |
| M4rtinK | export QML_IMPORT_PATH=/usr/share/modrana-test/qml/UC; export QML_IMPORT_TRACE=1; sailfish-qml modrana-test | 23:33 |
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| M4rtinK | subjectively feels faster | 23:33 |
| Elleo | :) | 23:33 |
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| M4rtinK | but the shutdown bug is still there | 23:34 |
| M4rtinK | covers look the same | 23:37 |
| M4rtinK | I though I've spotted some slightly better performance | 23:37 |
| special | what are the problems you're trying to solve, exactly? | 23:37 |
| M4rtinK | but doing a blind test did not confirm that :) | 23:38 |
| M4rtinK | special: I'm working on a Python & QML application (modRana) | 23:38 |
| M4rtinK | special: and I have lately had some issues with not getting the shutdown signal when the window is closed | 23:39 |
| M4rtinK | special: co I have been investigating if it is perhaps caused by using qmlscene | 23:39 |
| special | qmlscene is probably not ideal.. how are you using qmlscene if you're using python? | 23:40 |
| M4rtinK | when you use PyOtherSide, you load the ml first, the io.thp.pyotherside QML plugin gets loaded and starts the embedded Python interpreter | 23:41 |
| special | ah. | 23:41 |
| M4rtinK | then you can use it to import Python modules, run code (a/synchonously), etc. | 23:41 |
| M4rtinK | and Python code can import the pyotherside module | 23:42 |
| M4rtinK | and use it to send events to QML :) | 23:42 |
| M4rtinK | PyOtherSide is both a QML plugin & Python module | 23:42 |
| M4rtinK | very VERY cleverly done by thp :) | 23:42 |
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