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| artemma | Interestingly a bug when deploying-redeploying my flashlight app caused torch to stay ON. Legally achieving same is impossible | 00:04 |
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| artemma | tuukkah: I merged your pull request about command line build instructions to HelloWorld Pro. Probably I won't have energy to advertise it tonight. Feel free to do it on your own | 00:16 |
| artemma | tuukkah: let the fame come to those who deserve it :) | 00:16 |
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| Gilly | does anyone else have problems with Gallery not showing images? | 07:52 |
| Gilly | it claims theirw | 07:53 |
| Gilly | width/height are 0 | 07:53 |
| Gilly | i can still make ambiances out of them though | 07:54 |
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| Gilly | also a new picture i took with the camera shows correctly. so it might be just the pictures before last update not showing | 08:00 |
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| coderus | good morning jolla | 08:12 |
| coderus | good morning sailors | 08:12 |
| coderus | any Jolla owner awake? | 08:12 |
| tbr | mooo | 08:12 |
| Pnuu | yup | 08:12 |
| coderus | can you give me [ls /dev] otput please? | 08:15 |
| Pnuu | just a sec | 08:15 |
| flux | it appears my program doesn't work under boosted/mapplauncherd. any suggestions what I might be doing wrong?-o | 08:17 |
| flux | it just gives "Loading" for a moment, some CPU use and then the window closes | 08:17 |
| Pnuu | coderus: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/12078191/ls_dev.txt | 08:17 |
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| Jonni | flux: start it from commandline and output should tell whats the problem | 08:21 |
| flux | but it works from command line | 08:22 |
| flux | well, there are some messages | 08:22 |
| flux | such as "Module 'Sailfish.Silica' does not contain a module identifier directive - it cannot be protected from external registrations." | 08:23 |
| Jonni | thats normal | 08:23 |
| Jonni | how do you start it from commandline? | 08:23 |
| flux | I type in SensorView :) | 08:23 |
| Jonni | I mean that start with invoker | 08:23 |
| flux | ok, right, that's the missing part | 08:23 |
| coderus | Pnuu: thanks :) | 08:24 |
| Jonni | flux: invoker --single-instance --type=silica-qt5 /pathto/SensorView | 08:24 |
| Pnuu | flux: check what devel-su journalctl -fa prints when starting up | 08:24 |
| flux | jonni, "what(): Booster: Loading symbol 'main' failed: '/usr/bin/SensorView: undefined symbol: main'" - pretty sure it comes with main :) | 08:25 |
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| flux | but yeah, journalctl and starting the application says the same thing | 08:26 |
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| flux | actually | 08:28 |
| flux | the file has no symbols according to 'nm' | 08:28 |
| flux | so perhaps something strips it a bit too well | 08:28 |
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| flux | nah, doesn't start the full version either | 08:30 |
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| coderus | Pnuu: can you test application on Jolla now? | 08:34 |
| coderus | https://www.dropbox.com/s/xuy1s95e4n40hrx/videotest-0.1-1.armv7hl.rpm | 08:34 |
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| Pnuu | will do | 08:36 |
| coderus | Pnuu: clicking on icon should turn on LED flash | 08:36 |
| coderus | Pnuu: if not dont delete app, i'll do some instructions for testing | 08:37 |
| coderus | [ https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/xuy1s95e4n40hrx/videotest-0.1-1.armv7hl.rpm ] direct link | 08:37 |
| Pnuu | loading.. and then closes | 08:38 |
| coderus | open terminal | 08:38 |
| coderus | and test: | 08:38 |
| coderus | videotest /dev/v4l-subdev10 | 08:38 |
| Pnuu | just exits | 08:39 |
| Pnuu | trying /dev/v4l-subdev10 | 08:40 |
| coderus | videotest /dev/v4l-subdev9 test up to subdev0 | 08:40 |
| Pnuu | invoker: Invoking execution: '/usr/bin/videotest' | 08:40 |
| coderus | *down to | 08:40 |
| Pnuu | Boosted process (pid=32289) exited with status 0 | 08:40 |
| coderus | no invoker | 08:40 |
| coderus | its not silica | 08:40 |
| Pnuu | ok | 08:40 |
| coderus | just start binary | 08:40 |
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| Pnuu | for 7 I get "error opening device" | 08:42 |
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| Pnuu | coderus: none of them (`seq 10 -1 0`) turned on the flash | 08:44 |
| coderus | Pnuu: oh, wait for new binary please | 08:44 |
| Pnuu | sure :-) | 08:44 |
| coderus | [ https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/0uc842k10bv4izr/videotest-0.1-2.armv7hl.rpm ] | 08:45 |
| coderus | [ https://www.dropbox.com/s/0uc842k10bv4izr/videotest-0.1-2.armv7hl.rpm ] | 08:45 |
| flux | ah, I started using QtConcurrent recently. maybe I need to add it to the yaml file? | 08:46 |
| Pnuu | coderus: testing | 08:46 |
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| flux | well, just adding it to the yaml file PkgConfigBR: Qt5Concurrent did nothing, I suppose it only affects building | 08:47 |
| Pnuu | coderus: btw, should I do it directly from the phone? as I'm testing via ssh | 08:47 |
| coderus | no difference | 08:48 |
| coderus | you doing as root or nemo? | 08:48 |
| Pnuu | didn't work | 08:48 |
| Pnuu | nemo | 08:48 |
| coderus | try with root | 08:48 |
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| Pnuu | nope, nothing even with root | 08:50 |
| flux | Q_DECL_EXPORT int main(..) worked, should've googled first :) | 08:51 |
| flux | not sure why it worked first without that?-o | 08:51 |
| coderus | Pnuu: pkay, tell me, can Jolla keep torch on while video recording if camera application minimized? | 08:51 |
| coderus | flux: because you launched it wothout booster/invoker before that | 08:52 |
| flux | hmm | 08:52 |
| Pnuu | coderus: it isn't possible to turn flash on when using video | 08:52 |
| flux | coderus, I have another program that works fine without it.. | 08:52 |
| coderus | Pnuu: video recording without flashlight? even in night? | 08:53 |
| flux | even this doesn't use it: https://github.com/amarchen/helloworld-pro-sailfish/blob/master/src/main.cpp | 08:53 |
| artemma | Guys, do you know if Harbour people are working today? Would be cool to have my Flashlight approved before Christmas | 08:53 |
| Pnuu | coderus: the only available choice is "no flash" | 08:53 |
| flux | and surely it should work under booster?-o | 08:53 |
| coderus | flux: then you have no application type defined in desktop file | 08:53 |
| flux | it says "Type=Application", is that wrong? | 08:53 |
| flux | also, X-Nemo-Application-Type=silica-qt5 | 08:54 |
| coderus | flux: X-Nemo-Application-Type=silica-qt5 | 08:54 |
| artemma | Pnuu: I seem to remember [a little] that flash while video just isn't implemented yet | 08:54 |
| Pnuu | artemma: yeah, seems so | 08:54 |
| coderus | artemma: can you start my test app while your flashlight app strobing? i'll share build soon | 08:55 |
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| artemma | flux: HelloWorld Pro should follow Harbour FAQ regarding invoker and everything else. And I think it does (though not sure I verified it with the last faq version). If it doesn't, well, that would be a bug with a welcome pull request. FAQ should be a primary source of info me thinks | 08:56 |
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| artemma | coderus: nope, I cannot, I turn flash off when you minimize app | 08:56 |
| artemma | though we could try it the other way around with your app minimized and then have flashlight strobing if it helps you | 08:57 |
| Pnuu | artemma: try starting coderus' app with ssh? | 08:57 |
| artemma | what's the app? | 08:57 |
| artemma | and why do you want to test it with flashlight? | 08:57 |
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| artemma | If you want to do something with Camera it could be tough.. I turn flashlight OFF on minimize, because controlling camera from two apps seems to crash whole phone as for now. | 08:58 |
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| artemma | at least starting built-in camera while Flashlight is strobing is crashing the phone | 08:59 |
| coderus | artemma: oh, forgot you have no Jlla too :D | 08:59 |
| artemma | to my understnding it's reported to Jolla bug trackers by now (by Aard or Jonni iirc) and will be fixed at some point | 08:59 |
| artemma | coderus: I have a device since yesterday :P | 08:59 |
| coderus | Pnuu: https://www.dropbox.com/s/w527n0jt5mlk66r/videotest-0.1-4.armv7hl.rpm | 09:00 |
| coderus | artemma: o_O | 09:00 |
| artemma | just in time for my tomorrow SpB trip | 09:00 |
| coderus | okay | 09:00 |
| artemma | coderus: will test at some point later today, got to work | 09:00 |
| coderus | oh no, dont install this | 09:01 |
| artemma | ? | 09:01 |
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| Pnuu | coderus: check | 09:01 |
| mfulz | is there some documentation about how to use conman ? | 09:02 |
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| coderus | Pnuu: this: https://www.dropbox.com/s/gltfpvu044msyv0/videotest-0.1-5.armv7hl.rpm | 09:02 |
| coderus | Pnuu: you should start application with /dev/v4l-subdev10 and open camera and make photo with flash until its not closed | 09:03 |
| coderus | it testing camera parameters for intensity values | 09:04 |
| coderus | maybe flash doesnt started when intensity not set | 09:04 |
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| coderus | oh, i can make better test case in next build :D | 09:04 |
| Pnuu | coderus: just took the photo and printed "indicator intensity: 34948 torch" and "intensity: 34948" few times | 09:05 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | hrmmm | 09:10 |
| tortoisedoc_ | can anyone point me to the package which handles lock screen notification icons? | 09:10 |
| tortoisedoc_ | or is that secret as well? :) | 09:10 |
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| Stskeeps | probably lipstick-jolla-home | 09:11 |
| tortoisedoc_ | Stskeeps : jolla-home sounds like closed source for now.. | 09:12 |
| coderus | Pnuu: https://www.dropbox.com/s/x4nmu7u4inc1h2s/videotest-0.1-6.armv7hl.rpm?m= | 09:12 |
| tortoisedoc_ | I only saw colorful-home :P | 09:12 |
| coderus | Pnuu: just start it with device path and it will log values only if its changed | 09:12 |
| coderus | Pnuu: make some photos and check log if something was logged | 09:13 |
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| coderus | Pnuu: test all devices until you get some results please | 09:13 |
| Pnuu | coderus: takes a while, visitors :-/ | 09:13 |
| coderus | ok +0 | 09:14 |
| coderus | artemma: ? | 09:14 |
| Pnuu | oh no, more guests | 09:16 |
| Pnuu | bugger | 09:16 |
| artemma | coderus: I am not 100% sure, but I think only 100% flash ON is possible for now | 09:17 |
| tortoisedoc_ | hmm; qt 5.0 debugger is not cross-dbg? | 09:18 |
| tortoisedoc_ | what if I replace it with the old harmattan one? | 09:18 |
| artemma | coderus: do you live in Saint-Petersburg by any chance BTW? | 09:18 |
| coderus | artemma: no chance | 09:19 |
| coderus | Chelyabinsk :D | 09:19 |
| artemma | okay | 09:19 |
| * artemma goes to SpB for Christmas and NY | 09:19 | |
| coderus | artemma: can you test my app? | 09:19 |
| Pnuu | coderus: did you find any meteorites?-) | 09:19 |
| coderus | Pnuu: sure | 09:19 |
| artemma | coderus: I need a bit.ly link (for easy typing on device) and a short description as a teaser :) | 09:19 |
| matt_1979 | Hi, I'm trying to deploy a shared library as part of my project. The compiler links quite happily but I'm not sure how I add the .so file to the RPM file. I know it needs to be installed into /usr/share/{projectname}/lib, however adding it OTHER_FILES as "lib/xyz.so" or the yaml file always gives me "Fatal error: nothing provides xyz.so needed by abc-0.1-1.armv7hl" when trying to run on my device. Any ideas? | 09:20 |
| coderus | artemma: http://goo.gl/gdrAdJ | 09:20 |
| coderus | start it in terminal as: [videotest /dev/v4l-subdev10] | 09:21 |
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| coderus | keep it working | 09:21 |
| coderus | and make some actions with camera flash. make photos, etc. | 09:21 |
| coderus | it will log if something changed with camera values | 09:21 |
| coderus | if nothing with dev10 test down to dev0 | 09:22 |
| artemma | Wasn't it possible to install RPMs from the Tranfers UI earlier? Or is there a setting for it? Kind'a sucks to type installation commands in terminal | 09:22 |
| coderus | curl http://goo.gl/gdrAdJ ? | 09:22 |
| coderus | wget http://goo.gl/gdrAdJ | 09:23 |
| coderus | curl cant handle redirects | 09:23 |
| * artemma tries to recall the pkcon command line for installing RPM | 09:23 | |
| Pnuu | artemma: pkcon install-local package.rpm | 09:24 |
| artemma | Pnuu: thx. I still seem to remember some jolla people installing from just transfer UI | 09:25 |
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| artemma | arrgh, terminal keyboard misbehaves. Types not the characters I want | 09:26 |
| coderus | artemma: use landscape layout ;) | 09:26 |
| artemma | tried | 09:26 |
| artemma | i must have entered some wrong mode | 09:27 |
| tortoisedoc_ | crap | 09:28 |
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| artemma | installed | 09:28 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | forgot harmattan gdb for device is python-based :/ | 09:28 |
| tortoisedoc_ | but hmm... | 09:29 |
| artemma | coderus: so what's the point of test? What do you want to simulate-try-test? | 09:29 |
| artemma | though doesn't matter since app doesn't start :) Shows "Loading" for a while and dies | 09:30 |
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| coderus | 15:21 < coderus> start it in terminal as: [videotest /dev/v4l-subdev10] | 09:32 |
| tortoisedoc_ | Stskeeps : what is your take, any chance to get the Harmattan GDB to work for MER as well=? | 09:32 |
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| coderus | artemma: keep it working | 09:33 |
| artemma | ah indeed | 09:33 |
| coderus | artemma: and make some photos with flash | 09:33 |
| coderus | it will log camera flash values | 09:33 |
| coderus | (if device correct) | 09:33 |
| Pnuu | coderus: 129100401 is the only value I get | 09:34 |
| coderus | Pnuu: which one? | 09:34 |
| artemma | coderus:error opening the device | 09:34 |
| Pnuu | dev10 | 09:34 |
| coderus | artemma: test with 10 down to 0 devices | 09:34 |
| coderus | Pnuu: which value? | 09:35 |
| Stskeeps | tortoisedoc_: huh | 09:35 |
| artemma | 9 works | 09:35 |
| Pnuu | coderus: all: "torch intensity", "indicator intensity" and "torch state" | 09:36 |
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| coderus | Pnuu: its incorrect output | 09:36 |
| coderus | test other devices | 09:36 |
| Stskeeps | tortoisedoc_: ? | 09:36 |
| Pnuu | coderus: same with 9 | 09:36 |
| artemma | coderus: it showed same number 129100401 for all of then, and there were no changes while I was taking a photo and seeking for focus (both involved flash) | 09:37 |
| Pnuu | coderus: same values with all dev numbers | 09:37 |
| Pnuu | with software version -6 | 09:39 |
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| coderus | test with this: http://goo.gl/sSYX5P | 09:41 |
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| Pnuu | ah, I forgot to devel-su for the previous test | 09:45 |
| Pnuu | now I get torch state: 1122133308, indicator intensity: 1074680544, torch intensity: 113, torch intensity: 129100401 | 09:45 |
| Pnuu | with the newest version | 09:45 |
| Pnuu | and taking pictures doesn't print new values | 09:45 |
| Pnuu | indicator intensity changes between devices | 09:46 |
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| thesignal | good morning! is there a chance that today-submitted apps will make it into the harbour before christmas? | 09:49 |
| coderus | Pnuu: you need to find device where taking picture changing values | 09:49 |
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| Pnuu | coderus: ok, will try again | 09:53 |
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| Pnuu | nope, no changes | 09:55 |
| ln- | what's the password for devel-su? | 09:55 |
| Yaniel | the one you set in settings->developer mode | 09:55 |
| ln- | i've set nothing | 09:56 |
| Stskeeps | then it's the one listed there | 09:56 |
| ln- | the ssh password? which i haven't enabled | 09:57 |
| Yaniel | enable it then | 09:57 |
| ln- | ok | 09:57 |
| Yaniel | or be screwed :P | 09:57 |
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| jabbounet | hello all | 10:12 |
| Yaniel | hi there | 10:12 |
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| coderus | Pnuu: strange, but okay. will continue when me gets Jolla :D | 10:14 |
| Pnuu | coderus: it seems that it starts with minimal value (113) but changes to maximum before even taking the first image | 10:15 |
| Aard | Venemo_N9: are you working on irc-chatter? I'm wondering if I should try to make our care person make irssi, or if he'll get another irc client on his device soon ;) | 10:15 |
| tortoisedoc_ | Stskeeps: sorry, am away. I was thinking about possibility to get harmattan debugger to run instead of one used by Mer | 10:16 |
| tortoisedoc_ | Stskeeps: but of course gdb is called over mer vm | 10:16 |
| coderus | Pnuu: but you didnt get any different output on different devices, right> | 10:17 |
| coderus | then values are incorrent | 10:17 |
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| Pnuu | that's correct | 10:17 |
| Stskeeps | tortoisedoc_: well, we have a much more modern gdb.. | 10:17 |
| tortoisedoc_ | Stskeeps: indeed, but it does not like running from win :P | 10:18 |
| Pnuu | oh, torch state and indicator intensity changed between devices | 10:18 |
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| coderus | Pnuu: any device with torch state between 0 - 3? | 10:18 |
| tortoisedoc_ | Stskeeps: I was just exploring possibilities for avoiding having to compile cross-gdb | 10:18 |
| Stskeeps | tortoisedoc_: there's a cross-gdb in mer | 10:19 |
| Pnuu | coderus: yeah, all of them report those four lines | 10:19 |
| tortoisedoc_ | Stskeeps: hmm but it is not used? | 10:19 |
| Stskeeps | tortoisedoc_: not sure if sdk uses it | 10:19 |
| Pnuu | coderus: "torch state" and "indicator intensity" change between invocations, too | 10:19 |
| Pnuu | even with the same device number | 10:20 |
| tortoisedoc_ | Stskeeps : ok, then I could "theoretically" replace the one of the sdk with it? | 10:20 |
| tortoisedoc_ | (replace == make a symlink to other exe file) | 10:20 |
| tortoisedoc_ | (or am I talking completely nonsense here now?) | 10:21 |
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| coderus | Pnuu: any with torch state between 0 - 3? | 10:23 |
| Pnuu | coderus: no, all the values are large(tm) | 10:24 |
| Pnuu | 1123239228 or so | 10:24 |
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| Venemo_N9 | Aard, yes, I am working on irc chatter | 10:30 |
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| coderus | Venemo_N9: i need irssi port :) | 10:39 |
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| coderus | text copying not working in terminal :( | 10:43 |
| locusf | yeah | 10:43 |
| Pnuu | there are other minor things in the fingerterm too | 10:44 |
| Frye | Have you set the drag mode to select? | 10:44 |
| Raim | Frye: select works, but using the Copy button does nothing. | 10:45 |
| Frye | Yeah, I found it out myself now. | 10:46 |
| Frye | When I tried it again | 10:46 |
| Frye | I'm pretty sure it worked at some point | 10:46 |
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| coderus | need to make patch :) | 10:59 |
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| mfulz | how can I install an apk on my jolla? | 11:04 |
| mfulz | ah forget it - it just didn't tell any status | 11:04 |
| Pnuu | mfulz: apkd-install | 11:04 |
| coderus | how i can get my Jolla? :D | 11:06 |
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| Waitee | coderus: living in eu? | 11:31 |
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| coderus | Waitee: no, russia :D | 11:39 |
| Venemo_N9 | coderus, I don't know much about irssi | 11:39 |
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| Waitee | go get one from finland | 11:50 |
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| tuukkah | hey vegai, mudyc, got any sailfish project ideas? | 12:22 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | bah | 12:38 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | hrmm | 12:42 |
| tortoisedoc_ | putty proken | 12:42 |
| tortoisedoc_ | as in *broken | 12:42 |
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| olofk | I'm so damn close to getting this QML-only build working in QT Creator. It builds and deploys the RPM just fine, but I can't make it run sailfish-qml <myappname> in the run step | 12:54 |
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| olofk | I've changed the step in the project run configuration, but it looks like it's trying to run it on my dev machine instead | 12:54 |
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| mfulz | does someone has the issue with some android apps, that they "think" they're not connected with the Internet, even if the connection is there? | 13:01 |
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| Waitee | specify | 13:02 |
| tbr | I've seen that sometimes. if you have many apps open in general, close some. if you don't, then restarting aliendalvik.service might help. | 13:02 |
| Aard | coderus: come to finland? :p | 13:03 |
| Aard | coderus: where in russia do you live? | 13:03 |
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| Frye | Hmm, looks like I found a way to make maps app disable screensaver =) | 13:05 |
| Frye | At least test app works perfectly :D | 13:05 |
| tuukkah | olofk, can i get the source code somewhere? | 13:07 |
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| coderus | Aard: Chelyabinsk :p | 13:16 |
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| Aard | not the best location to come to finland :) | 13:17 |
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| Andy80 | hi | 13:18 |
| Waitee | hi | 13:18 |
| Andy80 | when I compile a Sailfish project, even if I have the real device, do I jave to start the emulator anyway? | 13:18 |
| Andy80 | or better, the "MerSDK VM" | 13:19 |
| Frye | Bah, does not work on device | 13:19 |
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| olofk | tuukkah: Sure thing. I'll put up a tgz on dropbox. | 13:36 |
| olofk | tuukkah: https://www.dropbox.com/s/i57hm98e2du2efq/lovecalc.tar.gz | 13:38 |
| olofk | You have to sign the NDA and agree to the patents for this top secret super advanced code of course ;) | 13:39 |
| tuukkah | =) | 13:40 |
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| Andy80 | anyone of you knows why Mer SDK tries to execute my virtualenvwrapper.sh ? (that is not Mer SDK related at all) | 13:43 |
| Andy80 | I get this error: /home/mersdk/.bashrc:-1: error: line 6: /usr/local/bin/virtualenvwrapper.sh: No such file or directory | 13:43 |
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| olofk | ahh.. wait a minute | 13:44 |
| Elleo | Andy80: presumably the mersdk uses python in someway | 13:45 |
| olofk | The run configuration isn't the command to execue on the host, right? It's a path to a local script that should be run | 13:45 |
| Andy80 | Elleo: ouch... | 13:45 |
| Elleo | virtualenv is a python thing for setting up self contained pythong environments | 13:45 |
| Andy80 | Elleo: but why it tries to read my own configuration? Mer SDK runs inside its own VM | 13:46 |
| tuukkah | Andy80, mersdk uses your real home directory inside the virtual machine | 13:46 |
| Elleo | oh, didn't notice it was in your bashrc | 13:46 |
| Andy80 | tuukkah: uhm... this is not good.... how could I workaround this problem? | 13:46 |
| tuukkah | (i knew it was a bad idea all along...) | 13:47 |
| Andy80 | note: I can't disable nor mess with my virtualenv config | 13:47 |
| tuukkah | Andy80, perhaps create a separate user account for running sailfish sdk? | 13:47 |
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| Andy80 | tuukkah: uhm.... and executing QtCreator from inside that user? Something like: su sailuser qtcreator ? | 13:49 |
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| Andy80 | I would like to avoid to fully login that user | 13:49 |
| tuukkah | Andy80, easiest might be ssh sailuser@localhost -X qrcreator | 13:49 |
| Andy80 | tuukkah: but then I suspect it won't be able to read my project that is under /home/andrea/projects | 13:50 |
| tuukkah | well, you could move that to the other user account too | 13:51 |
| tuukkah | i haven't hit the virtualenvwrapper issue as i've installed virtualenvwrapper system-wide (debian packaging) | 13:51 |
| Andy80 | tuukkah: I'm on OSX at the moment | 13:52 |
| tuukkah | or you could edit your bashrc and put a condition around that line? | 13:52 |
| tuukkah | something like [ -f /usr/local/bin/virtualenvwrapper.sh ] && source /usr/local/bin/virtualenvwrapper.sh | 13:54 |
| Andy80 | I don't know.... I really did think it worked in a more isolated way... the virtualenv thing is one... but how can I know that I won't have other similar conflicts? | 13:54 |
| Andy80 | tuukkah: [ -f means "if exixts" ? | 13:54 |
| tuukkah | Andy80, you can't. i have a conflict with a git prompt command. and of course .bash_history becomes a mess | 13:55 |
| tuukkah | Andy80, right | 13:55 |
| tortoisedoc_ | grr | 13:56 |
| Andy80 | tuukkah: what do you mean with .bash_history becomes a mess? | 13:56 |
| tortoisedoc_ | why is my mer vm refusing my connection | 13:56 |
| tortoisedoc_ | oh! | 13:56 |
| Andy80 | tortoisedoc: I had the same problem few minutes ago... I had to start/stop it many times | 13:56 |
| Andy80 | but I don't know if it's related to my problem with virtualenv or not | 13:56 |
| tuukkah | Andy80, it will include commands from both the host and the virtual machine | 13:56 |
| tortoisedoc_ | Andy80 : ok, in my case it is ssh, not qtcreator | 13:57 |
| Andy80 | tuukkah: it sounds even more messy :/ | 13:57 |
| tortoisedoc_ | aand I know why | 13:57 |
| tortoisedoc_ | my public key is missing from the authorized_keys :P | 13:57 |
| tortoisedoc_ | d'oh! | 13:57 |
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| mfulz | tbr: sorry was on phone | 13:59 |
| mfulz | <tbr> I've seen that sometimes. if you have many apps open in general, close some. if you don't, then restarting aliendalvik.service might help. > How to restart aliendalvik.service? | 13:59 |
| tuukkah | Andy80, i understand they wanted access from vm to the sources where ever they are in the host home directory. but they could've put it somewhere else instead of as a home dir | 13:59 |
| Andy80 | tuukkah: the most natural solution for me would have been to COPY the sources to the VM, then compile them etc.... | 14:01 |
| Andy80 | without copying the whole /home | 14:01 |
| Stskeeps | Andy80: it doesn't copy, it uses shared folders | 14:01 |
| tuukkah | Stskeeps, we know, we're discussing the issues that it creates | 14:02 |
| Stskeeps | ah | 14:02 |
| tortoisedoc_ | Yee im back in :D | 14:02 |
| tuukkah | mersdk really shouldn't execute ~/.bashrc or use ~/.bash_history | 14:03 |
| mfulz | How can I restart the aliendalvik.service? | 14:03 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | Stskeeps: is the cross-dbg on mer in the mer-tools? | 14:04 |
| tbr | mfulz: as root 'systemctl restart aliendalvik.service' | 14:04 |
| Stskeeps | tortoisedoc_: should be in mer-cross or something like that | 14:05 |
| tortoisedoc_ | hmm is it normal to be missing pkcon from the mer build engine but not zypper? | 14:06 |
| coderus | yes | 14:09 |
| coderus | pkcon is end device tool like harmattan pkgmgr | 14:10 |
| tortoisedoc_ | thanks coderus | 14:10 |
| tortoisedoc_ | harmattan pkgmrg? So dpkg was not the correct one? :P | 14:10 |
| coderus | and zypper for good guys | 14:10 |
| coderus | pkgmgrd is like pkcon. no root need. | 14:11 |
| coderus | dpkg like rpm | 14:11 |
| coderus | and apt like zypp | 14:11 |
| tortoisedoc_ | yeah, I like the zypp | 14:12 |
| tuukkah | olofk, builds and runs with the command line tools at least | 14:12 |
| tortoisedoc_ | Stskeeps: cross packages do not seem to have any gdb stuff included :/ (zypper se cross for me gives http://pastebin.com/fcgLbquA ) | 14:12 |
| Stskeeps | cross-armv7hl-gdb should exist | 14:14 |
| tortoisedoc_ | Stskeeps : no packages found :/ | 14:15 |
| * tortoisedoc_ turns to google | 14:15 | |
| tortoisedoc_ | lol | 14:15 |
| tortoisedoc_ | mandrake distro :P | 14:15 |
| tortoisedoc_ | http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat/4/idpl/20430823/dir//com/cross-armv7hl-gdb-2011.10-1-mdv2012.0.i586.rpm.html | 14:16 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | maybe I do not want to go there | 14:16 |
| tortoisedoc_ | aaah | 14:17 |
| tortoisedoc_ | Stskeeps : https://releases.sailfishos.org/sdk/0.20130731.0.2/mer/src/gdb/cross-armv7hl-gdb.spec | 14:17 |
| tortoisedoc_ | :/ | 14:17 |
| tortoisedoc_ | got removed, it seems | 14:17 |
| Andy80 | tuukkah: anyway... in the mean time I want to do a test with [ -f ] thing... but I really would like to find a way to isolate it better | 14:17 |
| Stskeeps | tortoisedoc_ you're on what sdk | 14:17 |
| tortoisedoc_ | Stskeeps no im on alpha3 | 14:18 |
| tuukkah | olofk, the ide doesn't show the same build and run options as with a normal sailfish project | 14:18 |
| olofk | tuukkah: Yeah, something is messed up with the run configurations | 14:19 |
| olofk | Maybe I should just regenerate the .pro.user file | 14:19 |
| tuukkah | olofk, but how about you set the executable as "ssh jolla sailfish-qml lovecalc" :-) | 14:19 |
| olofk | tuukkah: That may actually work :) | 14:20 |
| tortoisedoc_ | Stskeeps: sorry, I read "you're on that" instead of "you're on what" :P -> im on Latest Alpha (Alpha3?) | 14:20 |
| Andy80 | ouch.... again the first problem.... does it happen only yo me that when I click on "Start SDK" icons it becomes gray, it waits for a while then It get back to green/start Mer SDK again? | 14:20 |
| Andy80 | it's just like Mer VM wasn't able to start | 14:21 |
| olofk | tuukkah: I think I got it now. The option to execute on a remote device disappears when I change the template from app to aux in the .pro file | 14:21 |
| olofk | But I can't use app, since that requires me to have an c++ executable | 14:22 |
| tuukkah | olofk, perhaps it's possible to change either template to do what you want | 14:23 |
| olofk | I'm still aware that all this is completely unnecessary since I can just put back the damn c++ file, but that's no fun :) | 14:23 |
| Andy80 | and now I get this: :-1: error: MerSDK: The remote host closed the connection | 14:23 |
| olofk | tuukkah: Do you have any idea where to find the template sources? | 14:23 |
| tortoisedoc_ | hmm but | 14:24 |
| tortoisedoc_ | https://build.merproject.org/package/view_file?file=_service%3Atar_git%3Across-armv7hl-gdb.spec&package=gdb&project=mer-core%3Arelease&rev=3e0cb283dd75e9579a29583c1f2e1ec9 | 14:24 |
| tortoisedoc_ | there is something on mer | 14:24 |
| mfulz | thanks restarting aliendalvik really helped | 14:24 |
| tuukkah | olofk, i know nothing about qmake | 14:24 |
| tortoisedoc_ | (at least there seems to be?) | 14:24 |
| mfulz | is there a way for doing that wihtout develmode also? | 14:24 |
| sunkan | I don't have my jolla phone yet, is there a way to initiate a orientation change within the SailfishOS emulator? I mean like if the phone had been turned from portrait to landscape. | 14:25 |
| coderus | sure. restart device. | 14:25 |
| Stskeeps | guys, who of you have 1) a TOH with a tag inside and 2) have tohd stopped? | 14:26 |
| coderus | sunkan: there is gconr property fo 4hat | 14:26 |
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| sunkan | coderus: I guess it's /desktop/jolla/components/screen_rotation_angle right? | 14:30 |
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| Pnuu | Stskeeps: o/ | 14:31 |
| coderus | sunkan: right | 14:31 |
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| coderus | it will rotate your appwindow | 14:31 |
| coderus | but only when it started | 14:31 |
| coderus | not in runtime | 14:32 |
| Stskeeps | Pnuu: how does it help? | 14:32 |
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| Pnuu | Stskeeps: it has reduced the battery consumption to about 25 % (rough estimate) | 14:32 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 14:33 |
| sunkan | coderus: It says "Can't overwrite existing read-only value" :( | 14:33 |
| attah | Anyone know how to change ringtone (to the defeult one) but still have the "the first one" ambience? | 14:34 |
| Pnuu | Stskeeps: I'll check in the night how it compares, as before the phone lost ~20 % in 8 h of idle (mobile data on, no active connections) | 14:34 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 14:34 |
| tortoisedoc_ | Pnuu, Stskeeps: stopping tohd gives 75% power saving? | 14:35 |
| mike7b4_on_x230 | Anyone know if there is some kind of API to check what uniqueID the OTH Tag has? | 14:35 |
| Pnuu | tortoisedoc_: so it seems | 14:36 |
| tortoisedoc_ | :O | 14:36 |
| Pnuu | tortoisedoc_: but that is just a guestimate, not a measurement :-) | 14:36 |
| smokex | good word | 14:36 |
| Pnuu | one of the bestish | 14:37 |
| tortoisedoc_ | Pnuu : how to stop tohd? sysctl? | 14:38 |
| Pnuu | tortoisedoc_: http://reviewjolla.blogspot.fi/2013/12/jolla-battery-life-power-consumption.html | 14:39 |
| Pnuu | tortoisedoc_: check the comments | 14:39 |
| Pnuu | there's also another option of making a tin foil helmet for the nfc sensor | 14:40 |
| Skorpy | did the tinfoil helmet today. just turned off tohd too | 14:40 |
| Pnuu | hmm, the ssh password resets if I close it and start again | 14:42 |
| kirill | Hello. Does anybody know how to run qt5-widget project on sailfish? Tutorial programm "signal" from sdk doesn't run on emulator. Simple QWidget* w=new QWidget(); w->show(); in empty project crashed with exit code 134. | 14:42 |
| tortoisedoc_ | Pnuu: thanks, I have just disabled it according to comment. Battery load is 27%, will see how fast it rises to 100% | 14:43 |
| tortoisedoc_ | now on to my next bitch | 14:44 |
| tortoisedoc_ | http://www.gurucoding.com/en/rpi_cross_compiler/building_cross_gdb_mingw_vm.php | 14:44 |
| Pnuu | the 5 % in 12 h reported by Neil MacLeod in the comments sonds awsome | 14:44 |
| Pnuu | sounds | 14:44 |
| tortoisedoc_ | indeed | 14:45 |
| tortoisedoc_ | ive been on a stantdard 25% for the last week :/ | 14:45 |
| tortoisedoc_ | *standard | 14:46 |
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| tuukkah | olofk, found the TEMPLATE code in files in /home/mersdk/SailfishOS/mersdk/targets/*/usr/share/qt5/mkspecs/features/ | 14:49 |
| tuukkah | olofk, there's also sailfishapp_qml.prf: Qt Feature file for QML-only Sailfish apps. Usage: CONFIG += sailfishapp_app | 14:51 |
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| tuukkah | but perhaps it doesn't work as it sets "TEMPLATE = aux" too | 14:51 |
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| Wnt | Pnuu: If you manually set the password it wont reset by it self | 14:56 |
| Pnuu | Wnt: well, it has | 14:56 |
| Pnuu | atleast it isn't the same as I set the last time | 14:56 |
| artemma | you can also just copy-paste everything from prf template to your .pto | 14:57 |
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| tuukkah | artemma, those prf files look very mysterious | 15:01 |
| artemma | tuukkah: I think they are pretty much just pasted into your .pro | 15:01 |
| coderus | Pnuu: keys based authorization rocks | 15:02 |
| tuukkah | artemma, but if they don't work and do what you expect, the situation is pretty much hopeless? | 15:02 |
| coderus | no need to enter passwords | 15:02 |
| Pnuu | coderus: yeah, haven't yet got bored enough to type for setting them up :-D | 15:03 |
| artemma | tuukkah: why? Depends on the problem. When harbour reqs were updated, I could not make CONFIG (i.e. its prf) work for HelloWorld Pro, so just copy-pasted stuff to .pro. With needed corrections | 15:03 |
| kirill | Anybody? How run qt5-widget project on sailfish? | 15:06 |
| tuukkah | artemma, this qmake stuff is not well-documented and doesn't seem to provide a clean abstraction. i can guess what this does (in default_post.prf) but it ain't pretty: contains(TEMPLATE, ".*(lib|app)"):CONFIG += have_target | 15:08 |
| artemma | yes, qmake is not the best documented thing ever. Sailfish prfs are quite easy though | 15:09 |
| artemma | tuukkah: what you mention looks like standard qmake syntax (not well enough documented possibly), not prf specific thing | 15:10 |
| Pnuu | for me the compilation seems overly complicated with .pro, .yaml and whatnot | 15:10 |
| artemma | to my understanding you can make prfs as complex or simple as any .pro. I haven't studied it though | 15:10 |
| artemma | .pro is standard Qt stuff, shall not be changed | 15:11 |
| tuukkah | artemma, you might be the right person to help olofk get this project to run from ide: https://www.dropbox.com/s/i57hm98e2du2efq/lovecalc.tar.gz | 15:11 |
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| Pnuu | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/12078191/foo.txt | 15:18 |
| Pnuu | why does the lower version fail? | 15:18 |
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| zuh | Pnuu: use , not ; I believe | 15:23 |
| tortoisedoc_ | hmm 40 minutes from 27 to 40% | 15:23 |
| tortoisedoc_ | not bad | 15:23 |
| Pnuu | yay! | 15:23 |
| Pnuu | zuh: thanks :-) | 15:23 |
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| zuh | Pnuu: np :) | 15:24 |
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| artemma | Pnuu: ? olofk | 15:41 |
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| Pnuu | artemma: ? | 15:42 |
| artemma | Pnuu: sorry, wrong nick | 15:42 |
| artemma | tuukkah: ? olofk | 15:42 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | hmm | 15:47 |
| tortoisedoc_ | can I do ./configure + make from mer? | 15:47 |
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| tuukkah | artemma, olofk here has been trying to create that qml project with no cpp part. the problem is getting qmake and ide to understand that there's no binary | 15:51 |
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| artemma | tuukkah: I know little about these things. If that is Jolla-specific I'd suggest looking at Spectacle docs. If there's nothing to compile, qmake can be optional and .yaml may use another builder (no idea which ones are available) | 15:53 |
| artemma | if somebody really-really doesn't need anythign to compile, chances are his project can be "built" by just wrapping some dir into RPM | 15:53 |
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| tuukkah | artemma, indeed, then it's more about .yaml and ide than about qmake | 15:57 |
| artemma | I would guess you could make qmake do just copying and nothing else too, just never cared to figure it out. If you want to mess with .pro (and that's probably a good idea - will keep you closer to mainline), I'd search for an appropriate .pro TEMPLATE | 15:58 |
| artemma | or.. hmm.. actually if you just skip TEMPLATE and TARGET altogether and just use INSTALLS section, that might just work | 15:59 |
| artemma | not sure if TARGET is mandatory | 15:59 |
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| tuukkah | olofk found the aux TEMPLATE, but then ide doesn't provide the run configuration for launching the app on the target device | 16:01 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | : error: `target_alias' has changed since the previous run: | 16:05 |
| tortoisedoc_ | :/ | 16:05 |
| tuukkah | interesting how mb2 has commands deploy and run as well | 16:06 |
| lbt | tuukkah: they're to assist QtC | 16:08 |
| lbt | but I use them from cli | 16:08 |
| lbt | mb2 make && mb2 -d Jolla deploy --rsync | 16:09 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | lbt: any chance you might shed some light on my error above? | 16:11 |
| lbt | need more context | 16:11 |
| tortoisedoc_ | lbt: error: `target_alias' has changed since the previous run <- I get this when doing ./configure and make on the mersdk for building cross gdb | 16:11 |
| lbt | ok ... that kind of work should be done in the Mer platform SDK | 16:12 |
| tortoisedoc_ | lbt: ./configure --target=armv7hl-meego-linux-gnueabi and then make | 16:12 |
| tortoisedoc_ | hmm I see | 16:13 |
| lbt | in general the way to approach building tools like this is to use mb2 | 16:13 |
| lbt | or osc build | 16:13 |
| lbt | which build them in the context of an rpmbuild | 16:13 |
| tortoisedoc_ | hmm | 16:13 |
| tortoisedoc_ | mb2 can work from sailfish mersdk? | 16:14 |
| lbt | you probably want a dedicated mer-core target (though I see no reason the jolla one won't work) | 16:14 |
| lbt | what's the objective? | 16:14 |
| tortoisedoc_ | cross-gdb | 16:15 |
| lbt | and can't you just install it ? | 16:15 |
| lbt | I thought we built it | 16:15 |
| tortoisedoc_ | I've noticed something on obs yes | 16:15 |
| tortoisedoc_ | but zypper is not happy | 16:15 |
| tortoisedoc_ | (=does not list it) | 16:15 |
| lbt | http://releases.merproject.org/releases/latest/builds/i486/cross/ | 16:17 |
| tortoisedoc_ | ltb : from above -> <tortoisedoc_> Stskeeps: cross packages do not seem to have any gdb stuff included :/ (zypper se cross for me gives http://pastebin.com/fcgLbquA ) | 16:17 |
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| lbt | http://releases.merproject.org/releases/latest/builds/i486/packages/i486/cross-armv7hl-gdb-7.5.1-1.1.5.i486.rpm though | 16:18 |
| tortoisedoc_ | lbt : woh | 16:19 |
| lbt | sudo ssu ar mer-cross | 16:19 |
| tortoisedoc_ | lbt: so it was built, but in the wrong place | 16:19 |
| lbt | in the sdk | 16:19 |
| lbt | I'm not sure it was wrong | 16:19 |
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| vegai | tuukkah: oh, hi | 16:20 |
| tortoisedoc_ | urgh | 16:20 |
| tortoisedoc_ | void NetworkService::setPath(const QString&) "Method "GetProperties" with signature "" on interface "net.connman.Service" doesn't exist " | 16:20 |
| vegai | mudyc: oh, hi! :) | 16:21 |
| lbt | tortoisedoc_: ssu/connman barfball | 16:21 |
| lbt | ignore it | 16:21 |
| tortoisedoc_ | barfball? :D | 16:22 |
| Pnuu | owl or cat version? | 16:23 |
| lbt | Pnuu: this is messy enough to be feline | 16:23 |
| lbt | honestly I don't know - the repos are 'filtered' to prevent any internal stuff getting out and it's possible this has been blocked | 16:24 |
| lbt | if you're just hacking then pull it from the mer repos | 16:24 |
| lbt | the SDK VM seems to be wiped on every update anyhow :/ | 16:24 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | lbt : ill curl it and cross my fingers :P | 16:25 |
| lbt | nah | 16:25 |
| lbt | rpm -i <url> | 16:25 |
| lbt | as root | 16:25 |
| tortoisedoc_ | aah tru :P | 16:25 |
| lbt | rpm is quite nice :) | 16:25 |
| * lbt is a Debian guy too :D | 16:26 | |
| tortoisedoc_ | lol | 16:26 |
| lbt | "spec" on the other hand ... I still maintain that that sucks | 16:26 |
| tortoisedoc_ | hmm I noticed there is actually /opt/cross on mersdk vm | 16:26 |
| tortoisedoc_ | aah level 2 | 16:26 |
| tortoisedoc_ | error: Failed dependencies: | 16:26 |
| lbt | > rpm -qf /opt/cross/bin/armv7hl-meego-linux-gnueabi-ar | 16:27 |
| lbt | cross-armv7hl-binutils-2.23.1-1.1.1.i486 | 16:27 |
| lbt | so it should sit alongside | 16:27 |
| Stskeeps | hmm | 16:28 |
| Stskeeps | i think this one might be my bad | 16:28 |
| tortoisedoc_ | lbt : badf00d the last GLIBC problems | 16:29 |
| tortoisedoc_ | I was running it in wrong putty :D | 16:29 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: i don't seem to have cross-*-gdb in my _service based mer | 16:29 |
| Stskeeps | which is the thing jolla sdk was branched off | 16:30 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: i must have forgotten it | 16:30 |
| tortoisedoc_ | lbt: rpm -i http://releases.merproject.org/releases/latest/builds/i486/packages/i486/cross-armv7hl-gdb-7.5.1-1.1.5.i486.rpm executes silently | 16:31 |
| tortoisedoc_ | (as in no errors) | 16:31 |
| tuukkah | olofk, this works from mersdk: mb2 -d "SailfishOS Device" run sailfish-qml lovecalc | 16:32 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | how to verify cross-gbd? | 16:33 |
| tortoisedoc_ | oooh! | 16:34 |
| tortoisedoc_ | its in /opt/cross :P | 16:34 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: OK - although the release script does some moving about | 16:34 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 16:35 |
| lbt | tortoisedoc_: if you get it to work please write it up; I'm expecting to see client/server gdb | 16:35 |
| tortoisedoc_ | This GDB was configured as "--host=i486-meego-linux-gnu --target=armv7hl-meego-linux-gnueabi". | 16:35 |
| tortoisedoc_ | hmm | 16:35 |
| tortoisedoc_ | how to configure debugger for target in mersdk? | 16:36 |
| situ | Is there a way to see all theme icons supported on default theme of Sailfish ? | 16:36 |
| tortoisedoc_ | some .xml file around? | 16:36 |
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| situ | Found theme related stuff in /usr/share/themes. | 16:39 |
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| smokex | /usr/share/ambience is interesting too | 16:44 |
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| situ | Has anyone faced problems while setting cover icon from resources ? | 16:58 |
| tuukkah | trying to find some information about mb2, i found this book: https://github.com/hardcodes/developwithsailfishos | 16:58 |
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| Pnuu | can I invoke a system command (eg. a python script) directly from qml? or do I need a c++ stuff in between? | 17:04 |
| Pnuu | yeah, there's pyotherside, but it isn't yet in standard repository | 17:05 |
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| flux | an application that needs sudo or suid binaries, is it going to have a chance in getting to the store? | 17:32 |
| lbt | no | 17:34 |
| lbt | flux: if an API is needed to do something, ask for it. In general 'root' is too powerful to grant to store apps | 17:35 |
| lbt | for community apps we, as a community, may have a different set of rules | 17:35 |
| Pnuu | hmm, the c++ call seems straight forward enough, I'll go with that | 17:35 |
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| flux | lbt, probably my software won't be ready for a while (or who knows) but it would need it for bluetooth low energy scanning | 17:44 |
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| flux | something Jolla will probably later on provide via proper interfaces.. | 17:44 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: ^^ ... :) | 17:44 |
| flux | I first thought of doing support for TI SensorTag, but actually the first step might be a bit more general BLE interaction/debugging tool :) | 17:45 |
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| kaari | Hi, I have problem with mediaplayer getting album covers to show. Some albums their show ok, but some doesnt. It doesnt seem to care if it on sdcard or internal memory. Also I thought it indexis only from folders, but have one album with no pictures, but still it shows right cover for it. So is there some database where mediaplayer tries to fin covers? | 18:00 |
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| Skorpy | it could also get the cover from the mp3 files. some might have it in them | 18:06 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: i have to wait until amccarthy is back from vacation | 18:06 |
| lbt | yup - just bt lescan stuff | 18:07 |
| kaari | Ok, but then again I have albums with covers, but they dont show. Should the picture file named some specific? | 18:08 |
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| Skorpy | have to say, I have no idea :P | 18:10 |
| kaari | Ok, it's really not big deal, but just curious. | 18:10 |
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| _miqu_ | Anybody know of a way to connect to a XMPP muc on Sailfish ATM? On N9 I could do it with some commandline "magic" cannot find link to that now though. | 18:12 |
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| attah | I feel a bit stupid.. Got google play installed, and seems to work.. but "Start Play Store and do updates." makes no sense what so ever (the do updates part), where do i look for that? | 18:28 |
| mfulz | is someone aware of a documentation for conman? | 18:29 |
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| Turski | mfulz: https://www.google.com/search?q=connman | 18:35 |
| Turski | wasn't too hard to find... | 18:35 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | lbt: scripts installed in C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Roaming\SailfishAlpha3\mer-sdk-tools\MerSDK\SailfishOS-armv7hl | 18:38 |
| tortoisedoc_ | are they used at all? | 18:38 |
| tortoisedoc_ | hmm doesnt seem to be the case | 18:41 |
| mfulz | Turski: omg the site was not working for me today morning but thanks | 18:44 |
| Turski | mfulz: ;) | 18:44 |
| mfulz | anyone knows which FSes are supported in the jolla? I've formatted a sdcard 32GB to ext4 but it's not mounted | 18:45 |
| Turski | mfulz: it's about mount-sd.sh script | 18:47 |
| Turski | mfulz: it passes options to mount that work only with vfat | 18:47 |
| Turski | (uid and gid) | 18:48 |
| Turski | and mounting ext4 with those causes errors | 18:48 |
| mfulz | ah so I've to format it to fat32 a.e. | 18:48 |
| Turski | you could modify that script ot create overriding udev rule that loads modified script | 18:48 |
| Turski | i wouldn't ever modify my sdcard to fat32... | 18:48 |
| Turski | s/modify/format/ | 18:49 |
| mfulz | ah great | 18:49 |
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| mfulz | where is this script located? | 18:50 |
| mfulz | ah found it | 18:50 |
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| Pnuu | which helps | 18:50 |
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| mfulz | jep did it | 18:53 |
| Turski | mfulz: good | 18:53 |
| Turski | mfulz: haven't tried that myself yet since i have no card | 18:53 |
| Turski | it will probably be replaced in next update, but i can also be fixed properly then | 18:54 |
| mfulz | ok | 18:55 |
| mfulz | did someone know if there is a problem with android apps, when symlinking the sdcard folder to the mounted ext4 path? | 18:56 |
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| mfulz | ok seems to work :D | 19:05 |
| mfulz | hm no the symlink is recreated on reboot | 19:06 |
| mfulz | where is /sdcard created? | 19:06 |
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| Frye_ | Ok, I need a hand debugging an app that is running on bacground. | 19:28 |
| Frye_ | How can I see what is going on. There really should be nothing but still there is some kind of socket access | 19:28 |
| situ | Is it possible to show default cover (which shows screen of running application) with custom actioins ? | 19:29 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | Frye_ : i think there are tools to inspect open ports / network traffic in linux | 19:30 |
| tortoisedoc_ | for instance, in windows it's netstat | 19:30 |
| Frye_ | There is absolutely no network access | 19:30 |
| tortoisedoc_ | Frye_ : still there is some kind of socket access? | 19:30 |
| Frye_ | I think it is badly behaving mouse area or related to that | 19:30 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | how to list installed packages on device? | 19:33 |
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| Pnuu | tortoisedoc_: pkcon | 19:44 |
| Pnuu | don't remember the switches, but the command will give them | 19:44 |
| tortoisedoc_ | I wonder what this means now : Variant value is a QStringList but the property's value type is neither CompoundType or ListType | 19:48 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | Pnuu : pkcon get-packages | 20:08 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | and voila, gdb is baking in the cygwin oven ;) | 20:12 |
| tortoisedoc_ | *owen also P | 20:12 |
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| Frye_ | Argh, seems to be no way to run the debugger via qt creator. | 20:26 |
| Frye_ | Any hints where to start with the tracking of those system calls. | 20:27 |
| Frye_ | strace shows there's lots happening but nothing I can understand really | 20:27 |
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| flux | frye_, well, you can install gdb on the device | 20:28 |
| flux | and then install the debug info and debug source packages | 20:28 |
| Frye_ | Ok, new learning experience for me then. | 20:29 |
| flux | it's maybe a bit steep :-) | 20:29 |
| Frye_ | Never used gdb from command line as I'm no developer :D | 20:29 |
| flux | well, this is one command you're going to need: directory /usr/src/debug | 20:30 |
| flux | ltrace can be useful in addition to strace, if it's available | 20:30 |
| Frye_ | ok | 20:30 |
| Frye_ | luckily the issue is also on emulator so I don't need to bloat my phone | 20:31 |
| flux | in gdb maybe these commands are enough: break filename.cpp:linenumber and then just 'run' to hit the breakpoint. 'bt' shows backtrace, 'cont' resumes execution. | 20:31 |
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| flux | for the rest, read the excellent manual ;-) | 20:31 |
| flux | oh, print variablename and watch variablename are going to be useful | 20:32 |
| Frye_ | k | 20:32 |
| Frye_ | well the program is really looking fine on the outside | 20:32 |
| Frye_ | it's just doing something it should not when idle | 20:32 |
| Frye_ | I just wonder what I need to shut down when backrounded =( | 20:33 |
| flux | ltrace might be helpful for that | 20:33 |
| Frye_ | yeah, well without options it outputs nothing really | 20:33 |
| Frye_ | so I'm reading it's man page atm | 20:33 |
| Frye_ | :D | 20:33 |
| flux | or in gdb, do 'run' and then put it to background, then ctrl-c in gdb and 'bt' to see what it's doing.. by luck, it's doing something :) | 20:34 |
| Frye_ | hmm | 20:34 |
| flux | ltrace should be pretty verbose by default.. unless threads are involved, it doesn't know those | 20:34 |
| flux | there is also perf available for jolla, which sees a lot of things | 20:34 |
| flux | but it needs a special kernel (from the repositories) and I don't dare trying it, in case it doesn't just work via pkcon install :) | 20:35 |
| Frye_ | it did install yeah | 20:35 |
| Frye_ | but does it work no idea =) | 20:35 |
| Frye_ | I try the gdb | 20:35 |
| flux | perf record programname does the recording, perf report gives you a, well, report | 20:35 |
| flux | of perf record -p processid if you want to start it after starting the program | 20:35 |
| flux | (ctrl-c finishes) | 20:36 |
| Frye_ | k | 20:36 |
| Frye_ | thanks | 20:36 |
| flux | now you should be well armed to do all kinds of system diagnostics! | 20:36 |
| flux | go forth and may the gods of debugging be with you! | 20:36 |
| Frye_ | gnnh, wife came in and told me to do something else. | 20:38 |
| Frye_ | But I got the gdb installed | 20:38 |
| Frye_ | now I need to get the debugging symbols to the emulator | 20:38 |
| Frye_ | I though there was a shared directory, but maybe not | 20:38 |
| tortoisedoc_ | Frye_: hah miny old lady went just to sleep :P | 20:41 |
| Frye_ | I'm waiting for that to happen here | 20:41 |
| Frye_ | I got bt | 20:41 |
| Frye_ | but not able to read it | 20:42 |
| tortoisedoc_ | bt? | 20:42 |
| Frye_ | backtrace methinks | 20:42 |
| Frye_ | in gdb | 20:42 |
| flux | so it doesn't list function names? | 20:42 |
| tortoisedoc_ | ah | 20:42 |
| flux | you're then missing appropriate debug symbols indeed | 20:42 |
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| Frye_ | hmm | 20:44 |
| Frye_ | #15 0x6f1ded44 in QEventLoop::processEvents(QFlags<QEventLoop::ProcessEventsFlag>) () from /usr/lib/libQt5Core.so.5 | 20:44 |
| Frye_ | output looks like that | 20:44 |
| flux | oh, well that's about as good as it gets ;) | 20:44 |
| flux | the program has received an event and is processing it | 20:45 |
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| flux | well, maybe | 20:45 |
| flux | it could also be waiting it. I can't really tell certain just from a function name. | 20:45 |
| Frye_ | yeah, well it really should not wait anything | 20:45 |
| flux | but sounds more likely that it's processing an already-received event. look at the documentation :) (or source code) | 20:45 |
| Frye_ | while active there is mouse area that is waiting for onClicked events | 20:46 |
| flux | not wait? programs are always waiting. | 20:46 |
| Frye_ | yeah, while active that is what it should be waiting | 20:46 |
| Frye_ | but when backgrounded it is also waiting for something | 20:46 |
| flux | programs are always waiting something, even in background | 20:47 |
| Frye_ | ok | 20:47 |
| flux | they are waiting for the event that they are foregrounded | 20:47 |
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| Frye_ | http://pastie.org/8572108 | 20:47 |
| Frye_ | If that helps | 20:47 |
| flux | but waiting doesn't mean anything active | 20:47 |
| Frye_ | this means 7% cpuload on device | 20:47 |
| Frye_ | and 2% on emulator | 20:47 |
| flux | hmm | 20:47 |
| flux | the backtrace mentions 'activateTimers' | 20:47 |
| flux | maybe you have a high-frequency timer running? | 20:47 |
| Frye_ | yeah | 20:47 |
| Frye_ | Not that I know of | 20:48 |
| Frye_ | at least I have not created one | 20:48 |
| flux | maybe you have a transition effect that is still going even if it's not animating anything? | 20:48 |
| Frye_ | It might be internal to one of the qml components though | 20:48 |
| Frye_ | hmm | 20:48 |
| flux | or for example a busy indicator | 20:48 |
| flux | dunno if those know not to do anything when they're backgrounded, I would expect it.. but it's beta ;-) | 20:49 |
| Frye_ | There are Behaviors on x & y | 20:49 |
| Frye_ | with springanimation | 20:49 |
| Frye_ | hmm | 20:49 |
| Frye_ | And that load only starts when I select new game | 20:49 |
| Frye_ | right after launch there is nothing | 20:49 |
| Frye_ | -> So when the load shows there has been springanimations | 20:50 |
| flux | springanimation sounds something that can keep on running forever without noticeable effects | 20:50 |
| Frye_ | + tons of other stuff I'm sure | 20:50 |
| flux | (due to rounding errors) | 20:50 |
| flux | noticeable visual effects that is | 20:50 |
| Frye_ | yeah | 20:50 |
| Frye_ | Wonder if there is a way to kill it after specific time | 20:50 |
| Frye_ | But that sounds also like something that might have highres timer | 20:50 |
| flux | probably only 1/60, so 7% sounds a bit high - unless the device is running in low hz, which it might be doing | 20:51 |
| flux | (1/60 Hz that is) | 20:51 |
| flux | (meh, 1/60 s interval wait, 60 Hz frequency) | 20:51 |
| Frye_ | well there may be 13*22 springanimations active when the board is created | 20:51 |
| flux | right, that might be something more | 20:52 |
| Frye_ | Although they should be only for a very short time | 20:52 |
| flux | try disabling the animation altogether | 20:52 |
| Frye_ | But if they stick around... | 20:52 |
| flux | and see if it fixes it | 20:52 |
| Frye_ | yeah | 20:52 |
| flux | well, happy fixing | 20:54 |
| flux | I'll try some sleeping | 20:54 |
| artemma | Why can't I ssh into my device anymore? :/ | 20:54 |
| artemma | on home wifi | 20:54 |
| artemma | yesterday qt creator was deploying over wifi just fine | 20:54 |
| artemma | is port still 2223 on a real device? | 20:54 |
| tortoisedoc_ | hmm | 20:54 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | say I would like to detect lockstate device | 20:54 |
| tortoisedoc_ | say I would like to detect device lock state | 20:55 |
| flux | artemma, I just use port 22 on the real device.. | 20:55 |
| artemma | indeed! | 20:55 |
| artemma | just found same in qt creator device settings | 20:56 |
| flux | 2223 sounds like emulator | 20:56 |
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| flux | but, sleep-> | 20:56 |
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| artemma | Copied photos from /home/nemo/dropbox to /home/nemo/Pictures/myfolder -> photos app doesn't see them | 21:00 |
| artemma | do I have to copy files exactly to Camera or Jolla folder? | 21:01 |
| artemma | Or do I need to kick indexer somehow? | 21:01 |
| Yaniel | ~/Pictures should work fine | 21:01 |
| artemma | ah! I was too quick, pcan see photos in Photos | 21:01 |
| artemma | was just confused seeing no albums | 21:01 |
| Yaniel | yeah it might take a while to index | 21:02 |
| artemma | there are probably no albums at all yet except for facebook ones | 21:02 |
| Frye_ | Hmm, is there a way to disable all timers on a program while it is on background? | 21:03 |
| Frye_ | As I really need 0 timers running when the app is not active | 21:03 |
| Frye_ | I just need to enable them once activated | 21:03 |
| Yaniel | pause then on the focuschanged event | 21:04 |
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| Frye_ | ok, which component has that pause? | 21:04 |
| Frye_ | is it for Page or something that Page or something else inherits | 21:04 |
| Frye_ | I mean the full porperties list in the reference is quite empty :D | 21:05 |
| Yaniel | timers usually can be told to pause themselves? | 21:05 |
| Frye_ | Well I do not instantiate any timer myself | 21:05 |
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| Frye_ | So it is some other component that has them =( | 21:05 |
| artemma | cutespotify has setting for offlien sync quality, but I can't see the way to put playlist to offlien :/ | 21:05 |
| artemma | Frye_: https://sailfishos.org/sailfish-silica/qml-sailfishsilica-applicationwindow.html#applicationActive-prop is your friend | 21:06 |
| tortoisedoc_ | crap | 21:06 |
| Frye_ | thanks artemma | 21:06 |
| tortoisedoc_ | cygwin only making 64bit exe's >_< | 21:07 |
| tortoisedoc_ | evil cygwin | 21:07 |
| Frye_ | Ah, yeah. That bit I know. But there is a timer running while the application is on background =( | 21:08 |
| Frye_ | And I cannot seem to figure it out which timer and what triggers it | 21:08 |
| artemma | you mean not your timer? | 21:08 |
| artemma | that I don't know about then | 21:08 |
| Frye_ | Yeah, I don't create a timer myself | 21:08 |
| Frye_ | So something I have in the app has a timer | 21:09 |
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| Frye_ | which keeps on running even when backgrounded =( | 21:09 |
| artemma | how do you even know about it? | 21:09 |
| Frye_ | because app was rejected from harbour because of it =) | 21:10 |
| Frye_ | when there is only cover page active it still keeps on going on it's own business | 21:10 |
| Frye_ | Although only thing it should be doing is waiting for being active again. And this drives me nuts atm | 21:10 |
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| PeterPark | how can I add Cover Photos for my music collection? | 21:22 |
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| Frye_ | Ok, I have narrowed it down. | 21:23 |
| Frye_ | If I create dummy stones without any animations or state changes then there is no idle load | 21:23 |
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| Yaniel | PeterPark: embedding them in id3 tags or adding a cover.jpg file should work (is what I was told) | 21:30 |
| Yaniel | but it seems to be broken atm | 21:30 |
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| PeterPark | Yaniel: Thx! atm means? | 21:32 |
| Yaniel | at the moment | 21:32 |
| Yaniel | I tried a couple of days ago and it didn't work so I asked here | 21:32 |
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| PeterPark | Yaniel: Thx again, so I try it before I copy all covers .. | 21:35 |
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| Yaniel | they probably won't show up | 21:36 |
| Yaniel | but maybe after the next update which should come soon anyway | 21:36 |
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| Elleo | arcean_: it's just not in the ui yet, it will be in one of the next few releases | 21:37 |
| Elleo | arcean_: (offline playlists for cutespotify) | 21:37 |
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| edgars | holly crap | 21:51 |
| jussi | is that some new pop star? :P | 21:52 |
| edgars | guys, you must make some update/patch/whatever to imrove battery life | 21:52 |
| edgars | it's really terrible | 21:53 |
| Venemo | stop tohd | 21:53 |
| Turski | edgars: mask tohd | 21:53 |
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| _miqu_ | Y took mine of charger when it was 75% loaded. Applied the workaround by stopping tohd.service. Now 9 hours later and battery only down to 64% with my normal usage. | 21:56 |
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| Elleo | edgars: devel-su; systemctl stop tohd.service | 21:56 |
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| Elleo | there is apparently a proper fix in the works, so you could just wait for that | 21:57 |
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| Venemo | hah | 22:06 |
| Venemo | this is great news: bluetooth audio doesn't stutter when I'm surfing the web on wifi | 22:07 |
| raininja | there is sytemd? | 22:07 |
| raininja | system* | 22:07 |
| raininja | oh wait I am in #sailfishos | 22:08 |
| Venemo | raininja: Mer uses systemd yes | 22:08 |
| raininja | i am currently starting to hate harmattan | 22:08 |
| raininja | it has been 3 days. | 22:08 |
| Venemo | 3 days since what? | 22:09 |
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| edgars | and what is tohd? | 22:12 |
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| PeterPark | since the last update Gallery does not show Videos from my SDCard.. any workarounds? Media still shows the MP3s though.. | 22:13 |
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| raininja | Venemo: since I recieved my N9 | 22:14 |
| Venemo | raininja: how is that related to this channel? | 22:15 |
| edgars | and about sdcard | 22:15 |
| edgars | i cant get my photos :/ | 22:15 |
| raininja | Venemo: as i noted, i started this convo thinking I was in #harmattan | 22:15 |
| Venemo | ah, sorry | 22:16 |
| raininja | i am trying to dualboot to sailfish, but having issues ssh'ing | 22:16 |
| edgars | when i connect phone to notebook, i do not see removable device | 22:16 |
| raininja | so it is sort of relevant but I do not expect any support. maybe commiseration :) | 22:16 |
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| Turski | edgars: use sshfs ;) | 22:19 |
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| Frye_ | Hmm, anyone here awake still | 23:38 |
| Frye_ | I have a way to check if my application is active form the application window. | 23:39 |
| Frye_ | However I would need to turn off a property on the initial page. | 23:39 |
| Frye_ | Is there a way I can get a handle to the initial page when it is loaded? | 23:39 |
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| jpnurmi | Frye_: you could do it the other way around ie. access the window from the first page. it's accessible if you give it an id, thanks to qml scoping rules | 23:51 |
| Frye_ | Hmm. | 23:51 |
| jpnurmi | Frye_: alternatively you could just use Qt.application.active? | 23:52 |
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| Frye_ | But the onActiveChanged is only detected on the application page | 23:52 |
| Frye_ | I think it's part of the application window | 23:52 |
| Frye_ | Not the Page | 23:52 |
| Frye_ | I mean I have a game that has particle system on the initial page | 23:53 |
| Frye_ | And when the application window is backgrounded the onActiveChanged is called | 23:53 |
| jpnurmi | ApplicationWindow has applicationActive property, which seems to be bound to Qt.application.active | 23:53 |
| Frye_ | And I would need to set the game page particlesytem to paused | 23:53 |
| Frye_ | Yeah, but can I somehow get the active changed signal to the initial page? | 23:54 |
| jpnurmi | i would use "running: Qt.application.active" | 23:54 |
| Frye_ | hmm | 23:54 |
| jpnurmi | you can also use "running: window.applicationActive" if your ApplicationWindow instance has "id: window" | 23:55 |
| Frye_ | Lets try | 23:55 |
| Frye_ | ok, I think I have tried to make it too complex | 23:55 |
| jpnurmi | "running: applicationActive" without an id might even work, magical qml scope resolution :p | 23:55 |
| Frye_ | Awesome | 23:56 |
| Frye_ | I though I have to somehow catch the event of the status change and then modify the running parameter | 23:57 |
| Frye_ | but yeah running: Qt.application.active is all it takes | 23:57 |
| Frye_ | Thanks a million | 23:57 |
| jpnurmi | np :) | 23:57 |
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