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| coderus | shadow build not working for me. when i eching shadow build checkbox and settings build directory it continue building in project source directory | 13:38 |
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| coderus | and when i closing projects tab and opening it again shadow build checkbox is unhecked again :D | 13:45 |
| khertan | oh did you convert .ts (translation) file to .qm ... with qt.linguist ? how did you install it with sailfishsdk ? | 13:47 |
| khertan | s/oh/how | 13:47 |
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| khertan | coderus, same here ... | 13:50 |
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| coderus | KhertanAtwork: usually i'm making translations myself before deploying. but .pro filee contains TRANSLATIONS field for that purpose :) | 14:48 |
| coderus | btw, i'm uploading persecute binaries for QA team test soon :) | 14:49 |
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| kaltsi | coderus: shadow building will be supported in the next sdk update | 15:30 |
| kaltsi | currently the checkbox is there but does nothing, you can toggle it if you find it pleasing but it really does nothing | 15:30 |
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| coderus | kaltsi: i see. its pain to build for two targets now. need to clean between builds and rebuild everything :D | 16:05 |
| coderus | kaltsi: maybe some workaround? | 16:05 |
| coderus | QA: check mailing list please. need to test Persecute for Sailfish before submitting it to Harbour ;) | 16:06 |
| kaltsi | coderus: sorry no workaround unless you want to work from command line inside the mersdk using mb2 script :P | 16:06 |
| coderus | kaltsi: no problems. just tell me how to initiate building and packaging to shadow directory to keep sources dir clean? | 16:13 |
| coderus | kaltsi: i'm happy xterm user. i can do everything in terminal :) | 16:13 |
| coderus | also when selected arm build button is inactive, but arm launch contains "make rpm" way. need to create rpm manually after building in qtcreator :D | 16:14 |
| kaltsi | do you mean Run with "launch"? | 16:15 |
| coderus | kaltsi: right. it just says "Not available in Alha2 SDK" :D | 16:15 |
| coderus | kaltsi: but "mb2 rpm" item is here. | 16:15 |
| kaltsi | ye.. you can select the "Deploy method ARM" and then choose Deploy from the build menu.. it will build rpm's | 16:15 |
| coderus | kaltsi: strange. button not available for me | 16:16 |
| kaltsi | maybe some mixed words now | 16:16 |
| coderus | kaltsi: what you mean? | 16:17 |
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| kaltsi | do you have the green Play buttons or are they greyed out? | 16:18 |
| kaltsi | when you select the ARM target | 16:18 |
| coderus | grayed. but build button is active :) | 16:20 |
| kaltsi | yes that's fine | 16:20 |
| kaltsi | and your what is the deploy method you have chosen? | 16:20 |
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| kaltsi | you can see it from the icon above the play buttons | 16:21 |
| kaltsi | "Deploy method ARM" is default for arm | 16:21 |
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| coderus | kaltsi: its "Deploy method ARM" | 16:23 |
| kaltsi | ok, then from the Build menu.. up in the menubar you can select Deploy project "yourproject" | 16:23 |
| kaltsi | that will make RPMs for you | 16:23 |
| coderus | kaltsi: thats it! thanks :) | 16:26 |
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| situ | I keep getting 'Unsupported image format' for gif files when I try to access them using QML. Is there any way to resolve this ? | 16:29 |
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| khertan | how did you convert .ts (translation) file to .qm ... with qt.linguist ? how did you install it with sailfishsdk ? | 16:37 |
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| coderus | khertan: check TRANSLATIONS field in qmake help | 16:45 |
| coderus | khertan: or use lrelease tool directly | 16:46 |
| coderus | kaltsi: btw, can you give me mb2 command parameters to make compile and package to external directory as "Shadow build" does? | 16:46 |
| kaltsi | let me verify that it works first :) | 16:47 |
| coderus | kaltsi: sure :) | 16:48 |
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| coderus | what is the right way to check if qml/js property is undefined? | 16:56 |
| kaltsi | situ: do you have qt5-plugin-imageformat-gif installed? | 16:56 |
| coderus | dict.param == "undefined" or typeof(dict.param) == "undefined" or something else? | 16:56 |
| situ | kaltsi: No, thanks for the pointer. | 16:57 |
| kaltsi | yw | 16:58 |
| coderus | and typeof(dict.param) == "undefined" vs typeof dict.param == "undefined" | 17:00 |
| coderus | what is the right way? | 17:00 |
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| kaltsi | coderus: /win 36 | 17:00 |
| khertan | coderus, thx | 17:01 |
| kaltsi | oops | 17:01 |
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| kaltsi | coderus: sorry looks like the mb2 magic doesn't work yet.. needs some other updates too | 17:05 |
| coderus | kaltsi: okay =| | 17:07 |
| coderus | kaltsi: i tried it too with -p param, but qmake failed this way | 17:07 |
| kaltsi | I'm seeing a qmake failure too | 17:08 |
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| kaltsi | coderus: ah here's how it works.. it's not that nice | 17:12 |
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| kaltsi | http://pastebin.com/L5DHAU6F | 17:15 |
| kaltsi | you'll have to at least run the qmake like that first | 17:15 |
| kaltsi | with mb2 there's no "Deploy Method ARM" so you can give the emulator as the device for the arm target too | 17:17 |
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| coderus | okay, thaks, it working now =) | 17:19 |
| coderus | WhatsApp for Sailfish. Round 2: | 17:20 |
| coderus | http://sailfish.openrepos.net/coderus/personal/main/p/persecute-0.1-2.i586.rpm | 17:20 |
| coderus | http://sailfish.openrepos.net/coderus/personal/main/p/persecute-0.1-2.armv7hl.rpm | 17:20 |
| coderus | please test :) | 17:20 |
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| coderus | kaltsi: is there any way to deploy to remote host using its ip address? | 17:27 |
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| kaltsi | not very easily.. but https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/SDK_on_VirtualBox/Design | 17:31 |
| kaltsi | that page describes the devices.xml format.. you can find that file under SailfishOS/vmshare | 17:31 |
| kaltsi | you can add your own device/machine there and you need to create/define the ssh keys for it too | 17:32 |
| kaltsi | next sdk update will have device support in qtc too | 17:35 |
| coderus | kaltsi: okay, i need to create new device then | 17:41 |
| coderus | btw, very handy command to make screenshots in Sailfish emulator itself: | 17:41 |
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| coderus | /usr/lib/qt5/bin/qdbus org.nemomobile.lipstick /org/nemomobile/lipstick/screenshot org.nemomobile.lipstick.saveScreenshot /home/nemo/Pictures/Screenshot-`date +%d-%m-%y-%H-%M-%S`.png | 17:41 |
| coderus | or use dbus-send | 17:41 |
| kaltsi | :) | 17:42 |
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| kaltsi | coderus: the wiki page is maybe a bit off.. here a device entry you could add to the devices.xml http://pastebin.com/7TWFijn4 | 17:44 |
| kaltsi | then with mb2 you would: mb2 -d yourdevice etc.. | 17:45 |
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| kaltsi | it won't work from qtc because it doesn't know about the device.. I don't recommend adding a device there right now, because you can break the kit so that a reinstall of the sdk is required | 17:46 |
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| Morpog_PC | coderus, can I have a go on your persecute sailfish icon? | 17:51 |
| kaltsi | I'm out, have a nice wknd | 17:53 |
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| coderus | kaltsi: thanks :) | 18:04 |
| coderus | Morpog_PC: well... i'm not sure :D | 18:04 |
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| coderus | Morpog_PC: but you can make an icon for my QA ;) | 18:10 |
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| coderus | Morpog_PC: but you can make an icon for my QA ;) | 18:14 |
| coderus | oops, sorry that | 18:14 |
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| Morpog_PC | coderus, made them in SVG, exported to laucher size and store size as PNG, in your purple color and in green color. Used the original sailfish style telephone handset for it. | 18:40 |
| Morpog_PC | https://db.tt/WdOTjUCQ | 18:40 |
| Morpog_PC | what is QA? | 18:41 |
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| situ | I had uninstaled and reinstalled my SDK, now I am not able to connect to sailfish vm to run the projrect. | 19:25 |
| Yaniel | can you ssh to it? | 19:25 |
| situ | What command should I try to ssh to it ? | 19:26 |
| Yaniel | see the FAQ | 19:26 |
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| situ | Yes, I am able to ssh to it. | 19:28 |
| situ | Nevermind, I restarted QtCreator and it works again. | 19:35 |
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| Yaniel | in that regard qt is sadly much like windows | 19:35 |
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| situ | well.. at least it works after restarting. | 19:38 |
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| aard_ | Yaniel: I wanted to have emacs as ide in the sdk, but the sdk team disagreed :p | 19:38 |
| Yaniel | good. | 19:39 |
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| situ | On my new VM I had to do zypper refresh before deploying my app as rpm. It turns out that dependencies were not getting installed. | 20:07 |
| coderus | Morpog_PC: seems legit. thanks. will check tommorow how it suitable in emulator :) | 20:14 |
| Morpog_PC | cool :) | 20:16 |
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| Morpog_PC | sailfishOS icons templates for everyone: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1386766#post1386766 | 20:50 |
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| artemma | aard_: still here? | 20:57 |
| aard_ | yes | 20:57 |
| artemma | aard_: was that you who told you might be able to ask camera guy to talk to me? | 21:00 |
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| artemma | I am preparing next demo anyway (got some ideas), but advice is certainly very welcome | 21:00 |
| aard_ | artemma: yes. I talked with him myself about it | 21:01 |
| * artemma accepts any informal or formal advice. E.g. now I am trying to understand what exactly keeps flash on if Torch mode is not supported. Maybe simulating video recorder is necessary | 21:02 | |
| artemma | I think it's also depended on lower layers. Some phones can keep flash on while you just look through viewfinder, some - only when seeking focus | 21:02 |
| artemma | but then maybe simulating video recording would do the trick | 21:03 |
| M4rtinK | IMHO, this should be really handled by the middleware | 21:05 |
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| M4rtinK | at least midterm | 21:06 |
| artemma | M4rtinK: no question about that. Qt has Torch API made just for that if hardware flash is LED (Jolla's flash is LED) | 21:06 |
| artemma | I, however, want to do a flashlight now, preferably by the public launch time :) | 21:07 |
| M4rtinK | artemma: yeah, I get that :) | 21:07 |
| aard_ | artemma: so, the torch mode bits are not supported at all. there _might_ be a v4l device on the device node on the device you _might_ be able to use for that, but we ourselves don't use that, so if it exists it's just by accident, and we'd need to test ourselves | 21:07 |
| artemma | I don't know what v4l is | 21:07 |
| aard_ | artemma: the way to control it would be going to the android camera hal through libhybris | 21:07 |
| M4rtinK | artemma: btw, just an idea I'll I got recently :) | 21:07 |
| aard_ | video4linux | 21:08 |
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| M4rtinK | arcean: turn the flashlight on/off with the active cover :) | 21:08 |
| M4rtinK | arcean: should be a killer app :) | 21:08 |
| artemma | oh.. android flashlights may just work.. | 21:08 |
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| artemma | M4rtinK: I have active cover controlled torch in my app already working and it is indeed cool (to me at least). Problem is it doesn't actually turn flash on, only a simulated object :) | 21:09 |
| M4rtinK | artemma: good :D | 21:09 |
| aard_ | artemma: native android flashlights don't work currently | 21:11 |
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| artemma | Well, then I can see only two hopes: turn light on during video recording or during endless seeking for a camera focus | 21:12 |
| artemma | hey, guys, you do have the device. Can you record video with flash on? | 21:12 |
| artemma | Like in a system camera app | 21:12 |
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| aard_ | artemma: no, you didn't understand what I said. you can use the android hal for flash controls in your sailfish app, when you go through libhybris | 21:13 |
| artemma | or what about seeking for focus? Does LED turn on for getting focus when it's dark? | 21:13 |
| artemma | aard_: I think I understood, but I thought that Android flashlights sorta use same HAL level anyway | 21:13 |
| artemma | well, now I know they don't work out of the box | 21:14 |
| aard_ | yes, but right now we don't allow access to this particular api from the android runtime. we will do that very soon, though. | 21:14 |
| aard_ | so you could look at how the android hal works, check libhybris, and add it to your app | 21:15 |
| artemma | libhybris might be a bit too level for my skills, especially hoping for torch api to come anyway.. | 21:15 |
| aard_ | I wouldn't count on it, at least not anytime soon | 21:15 |
| artemma | reading libhybris on github, doesn't seem to have much docs | 21:15 |
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| artemma | well, I should be able to mess with libhybris, but without device that's likely to be hard.. maybe I do that after sales start then. Too bad I am in 2nd wave though | 21:17 |
| artemma | hey, guys, you do have the device. Can you record video with flash on? | 21:17 |
| artemma | or what about seeking for focus? Does LED turn on for getting focus when it's dark? | 21:17 |
| artemma | sure I understand if you cannot tell for secrecy reasons, I just hope that's not a fact of deep secret | 21:18 |
| aard_ | artemma: yes, yes. our camera stack just sits on top of the android camera hal. | 21:18 |
| artemma | hmm, on the other hand libhybris camera headers are quite clear and resemble Qt API quite a lot. Maybe I just hack a testing example with it now | 21:20 |
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| * artemma is looking for some .pro/.yaml example with libhybris | 21:25 | |
| aard_ | that's something I can't help you with (at least not now) | 21:26 |
| artemma | sure. It's a pity though | 21:27 |
| aard_ | sorry, but my wife already threatens me a lot nowadays :p | 21:28 |
| artemma | if I fail with hybrid, I can still try the video recording trick :) | 21:30 |
| artemma | anyway, hybrid own test code seems to be clear enough. I just need to pull headers/lib to project somehow.. and final device will have libhybris for sure, so no messing with Requires part of .yaml needed | 21:31 |
| aard_ | artemma: if your application depends on it, and it's not automatically pulled in (shlib requires are autogenerated) you should do proper requires | 21:32 |
| artemma | aard_: oh, I don't mind proper requests at all, just not sure if I can figure one out. Finding correct package name is always a bit of a challenge and I don't know a good .yaml rules testing procedure if lib is already in the system | 21:34 |
| artemma | hmm, Sailfish SDK fails to find "libhybris" and "hybris".. | 21:34 |
| aard_ | ah. yes. it's part of hardware-adaptation, which was not published with the arm target | 21:35 |
| artemma | then I can't link to it anyway.. | 21:35 |
| aard_ | I guess best I can offer for now would be that you try to figure out how it might work, and I try to compile the code for you | 21:36 |
| artemma | hmm, that's doable. I'll create some example now then. libhybris test code is clear enough. | 21:37 |
| artemma | you don't need to wait for me if you are in EU timezone (or anywhere actually), my code example will wait :) | 21:37 |
| artemma | do u think libhybris has chances to be included some time soon? Otherwise testing it makes little sense as building package for Harbour, well, will need ability to link to libhybris | 21:40 |
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| thomas_sch | sailfish was made so that it could be easily run on android devices right?is there a way to build a sailfish image for an existing android device?I heard there is something based on cm10.2 | 22:08 |
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| artemma | thomas_sch: Sailfish isn't exactly public just yet. Or ever | 22:21 |
| artemma | and while it might become open, I am not sure if it becomes free | 22:22 |
| artemma | nemomobile on the other hand is open and free to my understanding | 22:22 |
| artemma | that's basically same low level + same middlewhere + non-sailfish UI (consider it a reference UI for device manufacturers if you like) | 22:23 |
| artemma | then exactly Sailish Silica seems to use BSD license (looking at its source code) and is pure QML or nearly pure QML, so you might be able to stick silica controls on top of nemo | 22:24 |
| thomas_sch | hmm thx | 22:26 |
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| faenil | thomas_sch, feel free to join #nemomobile for nemo chats ;) | 22:29 |
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| artemma | aard_: are you still here? | 22:34 |
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| artemma | I engineered a libhybris example that might just work (or not) if you manage to build it. UI included sorta - https://github.com/amarchen/libhybris-flash.git | 22:34 |
| artemma | I mean https://github.com/amarchen/libhybris-flash | 22:34 |
| aard_ | artemma: yes | 22:35 |
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| artemma | libhybris code isolated to camera tester.h/cpp and commented out | 22:35 |
| artemma | headers paths are.. speculated and I don't know which LIBS to specify in .pro so it needs to be fixed too | 22:36 |
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| artemma | My resubmitted wikipedia app is in QA for 3 days already. I start suspecting that maybe re-submission notifications to reviewers don't work on the harbor side. They can't have just too much work with the current reviews, can they? | 22:37 |
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| aard_ | artemma: actually, we do have too much work with the current reviews. it should go faster soon, though | 22:38 |
| artemma | oh.. I thought review team is ready for dozens apps a day (dashboard shows daily submission counts) | 22:40 |
| artemma | oh well, I guess first days are always difficult, while you are learning and adjusting practices | 22:40 |
| aard_ | yes | 22:40 |
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| artemma | shit.. I forgot to actually call c++ functions from qml | 22:41 |
| artemma | aard_: I need to update code a little | 22:41 |
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| artemma | aard_: done. Now proper code is in github. Tested as much as it can be tested without actual libhybris | 22:45 |
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| aard_ | funny. it complains about libsailfishapp. that's unexpected :) | 22:53 |
| artemma | :) | 22:53 |
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| artemma | that's default template really :) | 22:54 |
| artemma | hmm, somebody posted something about it to mailing list lately.. | 22:54 |
| artemma | found that post, but no answer there | 22:55 |
| * artemma is doing video test example meanwhile | 22:55 | |
| aard_ | ah. I was using the qt4 qmake :) | 22:55 |
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| artemma | explains :) | 22:58 |
| aard_ | and now it blew up because I don't have QT_QML_DEBUG defined, and the QtQuick include is guarded by that | 22:59 |
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| artemma | uhm.. | 23:00 |
| artemma | you can of course #define it manually. Unless the guard exists for a real reason that is | 23:01 |
| artemma | you seem to have quite a non-standard SDK environment | 23:01 |
| aard_ | in the main you use qtquick -> blows up without the define | 23:01 |
| aard_ | I'm not using qtcreator | 23:02 |
| artemma | aard_: I pushend code without qtquick include | 23:04 |
| artemma | only including what's really needed | 23:04 |
| aard_ | artemma: was the /usr/bin in your specfile in the sdk-template? | 23:04 |
| artemma | apparently yes, didn't touch it | 23:05 |
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| aard_ | artemma: I now have an application on my device which successfully crashes if I tap any button | 23:09 |
| aard_ | http://pastebin.com/RN0eUMSP | 23:11 |
| aard_ | is my diff | 23:11 |
| artemma | oh.. then I need a debugger or advice. I tried copying libhybris test code, but apparently missed something | 23:11 |
| artemma | aard_: thanks a lot | 23:11 |
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| aard_ | artemma: I can get backtraces out there, but not today | 23:13 |
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| artemma | sure, you are already helping a lot. Too bad, I can't figure the proper code | 23:14 |
| artemma | aard_: would you be willing to try one more RPM on hardware? - http://bit.ly/flatest | 23:17 |
| artemma | I made a test UI with buttons for just all the camera modes and functions | 23:17 |
| artemma | at least some combination should turn the light on | 23:18 |
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| artemma | I think that setting flash to ON and capture mode to VIDEO and starting video rec could help | 23:18 |
| artemma | but maybe just setting to viewfinder mode will be good enough | 23:18 |
| artemma | of image mode + searchAndLock() | 23:19 |
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| aard_ | no, nothing | 23:21 |
| artemma | damned.. | 23:22 |
| artemma | how is it even possible? Camera should be able to record video and certainly low light use case wasn't ignored | 23:22 |
| artemma | then camera should somehow be able to start LED light in low light conditions somehow | 23:23 |
| aard_ | yes, using android hal :p | 23:23 |
| artemma | of course, if native camera app uses libhybris level, maybe flash control didn't make it to QML | 23:23 |
| artemma | ah.. | 23:23 |
| artemma | but flash mode support tells that ON mode is supported :) | 23:23 |
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| artemma | did you try just taking a photo? Still image photo + flash ON + start() | 23:24 |
| artemma | ? | 23:24 |
| aard_ | yes | 23:24 |
| aard_ | I tried several combinations | 23:24 |
| artemma | now that sounds like a bug if QML side tells flash ON is possible, but it cannot actually be turned on | 23:25 |
| artemma | it should work at least for a simple taking photo or flash mode on should be not supported | 23:25 |
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| artemma | oh well, then I'll report this issue to mailing list and back to libhybris studies | 23:28 |
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