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| canurabus | hi. i had a some questions regarding app development for sailfish... 1. are dynamic libs allowed? 2. what does the application directory structure/layout look like? can i access files as normal or do I need to pack them into 'assets' or something special? 3. do i have to use silica if i have an existing qt application with my own qml components? i cant find a lot of details on this stuff... so if ive missed obvious documentation | 02:17 |
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| canurabus | please point me in the right direction :) | 02:17 |
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| Yaniel | as far as I know.. | 02:47 |
| Yaniel | 1) yes | 02:47 |
| Yaniel | 2) I don't know for sure but I think pretty standard unix stuff | 02:48 |
| Yaniel | 3) not necessarily but it is advised to use silica for an optimal user experience & integration with the system | 02:48 |
| Yaniel | which is a very important thing for most apps these days | 02:49 |
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| Yaniel | canurabus: ^ | 02:51 |
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| canurabus | i understand there's a desire for UI consistency but if I already have an application id rather not redo the whole thing to use different UI elements | 02:51 |
| Yaniel | if you come from harmattan the difference should not be big | 02:52 |
| canurabus | im actually just a pure qt/linux guy. i was interested in how to manage the app lifecycle and so on... but i really dont see any documentation outside of the one sample application they have | 02:53 |
| Yaniel | but if you have your entirely own stuff then it may be quite a bit of work | 02:53 |
| canurabus | well given that they accept android applications i doubt that there's mandatory UI guidelines | 02:53 |
| Yaniel | also for some apps, like games it often is better to use a custo UI | 02:53 |
| canurabus | i read... "Every Sailfish application must have a single ApplicationWindow component defined at the root of its hierarchy" | 02:55 |
| canurabus | from here: http://sailfishos.org/sailfish-silica/qml-sailfishsilica-applicationwindow.html | 02:55 |
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| Yaniel | I guess that is SailfishApplication specific stuff | 02:56 |
| Yaniel | but I might be wrong | 02:56 |
| Yaniel | I haven't experimented with the sdk too much | 02:56 |
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| canurabus | im surprised that they've launched a store already but the general documentation on their site is pretty lacking | 02:59 |
| Yaniel | harbour is not exactly a store | 02:59 |
| Yaniel | but I agree that there could be more documentation by now | 03:00 |
| canurabus | i guess i'll just have to grab the SDK and play with it... or maybe even email devel@lists.sailfish.org | 03:00 |
| canurabus | thanks for the info though :) | 03:01 |
| Yaniel | that is likely for the best | 03:01 |
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| situ | Morning | 05:06 |
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| coderus | i'm here. connection problems last day :) | 06:30 |
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| miksuh | can anyone access the harbour.jolla.com? I have tried to visit that page since it was announced but I always get the errorpage with error: HTTP 502 Bad Gateway | 09:49 |
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| jukkaeklund | miksuh, it is down for everybody still | 09:50 |
| dm8tbr | miksuh: seems the rush made some bugs surface and it's been on dry-dock since. | 09:50 |
| dm8tbr | would be nice if jukkaeklund could provide some insight on expected ETA though | 09:51 |
| jukkaeklund | dm8tbr, don't look at me I would share if I could | 09:51 |
| jukkaeklund | Jolla will tell when it's back | 09:51 |
| dm8tbr | I have less insight than you, that's why I look your way | 09:52 |
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| miksuh | ah okey, thabks. Well I have no hurry :)'ll try to visit harbour later. | 09:57 |
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| coderus | miksuh: just wait for official announcement. no reason to F5 every time :) | 09:59 |
| miksuh | yep | 10:03 |
| cybette | yes please wait, thanks for all your patience, I know it's a lot to ask :) | 10:03 |
| jukkaeklund | thanks cybette, we will surely make it clear when its back up :) | 10:06 |
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| MMori | so can anyone reveal how strict will the quality control be in jolla store. Is it more like "program builds and runs smoothly" or is it like "this program hasn't been made using all the latest coding stanadards, let's give it a red card" | 10:24 |
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| situ | Anybody still working on to improve Tweetian ? | 11:36 |
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| SK_mobile | Ha | 11:39 |
| SK_mobile | It works ! | 11:39 |
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| coderus | situ: Tweetian not, but Rocket is under heavy development :) | 11:44 |
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| situ | repository ? | 11:45 |
| situ | Ohh ok, looks like it's closed source. | 11:46 |
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| coderus | both are closed | 11:48 |
| situ | coderus: https://github.com/veskuh/Tweetian ? | 11:50 |
| veskuh | Yeah, I did port on Qt4 sdk. Haven't had time to do for qt5 | 11:51 |
| veskuh | and that was not complete | 11:51 |
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| jukkaeklund | would be great to get some initial port on qt5 | 11:53 |
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| veskuh | jukkaeklund, yeah, have been quite busy at work to do anything about it. | 11:55 |
| jukkaeklund | veskuh, I can understand :) | 11:56 |
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| situ | veskuh: I am taking a shot at compiling Tweetian with Qt5. I can't find a replacement for QInputContext in Qt5. Can you tell me how should I port the code which is using this class ? | 16:52 |
| Jonni | situ: http://www.qtcentre.org/threads/55428-Qt5-custom-input-contexts-gone-How-to-convert-from-Qt4-QInputContext?p=247950#post247950 But depends ofcourse what your doing, or if you just want to use maliit. | 16:57 |
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| Jonni | situ: http://blog.jpetersen.org/2011/12/07/maliit-and-qt5/ | 16:58 |
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| special | why does a QML application need it? | 16:59 |
| situ | Jonni: Thanks | 17:00 |
| situ | I believe I need to spend good amount of time reading about it. | 17:05 |
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| situ | Progress, somehow I was able to compile it. Now stuck at this error http://pastie.org/8472383 | 17:19 |
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| situ | Used spec files from sample sailfish project to fix that error. | 17:36 |
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| artemma | Harbour is up! | 20:48 |
| Yaniel | woot | 20:48 |
| artemma | reading the developer terms.. | 20:48 |
| artemma | HERE positioning is in, there's clear confirmation in terms | 20:51 |
| artemma | hmm, jolla has right to remove your apps for violating quality criteria, but no link to what these criteria are | 20:54 |
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| * dm8tbr waits to see if it stays up before mentioning it on social networks... | 20:54 | |
| Stskeeps | harbour: now with free cookies | 20:54 |
| Stskeeps | soon: http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01951/Pearl-Harbour_1951695c.jpg | 20:55 |
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| artemma | let's storm twitter. Harbour can't fall down second time in a row | 21:00 |
| artemma | so icon for app is 90x90, but for store it's 86x86? Funny :/ | 21:01 |
| dm8tbr | ugh, that's going to see some scaling artifacts | 21:02 |
| Stskeeps | artemma: i think that's fairly reasonable to ask on mailing list | 21:02 |
| artemma | After apple's app store experience, I am fairly sure that 86x86 just looks better in the app store ui | 21:03 |
| artemma | the fact that app store client was design with such requirements is just funny | 21:04 |
| * artemma anyway doesn't have a real icon yet.. will try using the default one maybe | 21:05 | |
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| artemma | hmm, reinstalling RPM to emulator doesn't seem to change icon.. | 21:21 |
| artemma | shall I manually uninstall it somehow with zypper> | 21:21 |
| artemma | ? | 21:21 |
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| artemma | nope, zipper rm and reinstall didn't help. Then something is wrong with the package.. | 21:23 |
| artemma | funny, PNG file is actually deployed to emulator and it's correctly mention in .desktop | 21:26 |
| artemma | and same thing works with another app | 21:26 |
| artemma | or should it the app icon be somehow specifically formatted PNG? | 21:27 |
| Yaniel | Stskeeps: isn't that basically what it looked like until now | 21:27 |
| artemma | ? | 21:28 |
| Nicd- | oh yeah harbour \o/ | 21:28 |
| * artemma uninstalls package and reboots emulator. Let's see if it gets proper icon to app launcher | 21:29 | |
| Yaniel | mysterious are the ways of qt sometimes | 21:30 |
| artemma | arrgh.. now the app icon is just.. empty % | 21:30 |
| artemma | must be some PNG format peculiarities | 21:30 |
| artemma | like they require alpha or no alpha or 8 bit or something | 21:30 |
| Nicd- | is the harbour account the same as the other jolla account? | 21:30 |
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| artemma | Nicd-: yes | 21:31 |
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| artemma | hmm.. how come my icon looks just empty in the emulator launcher.. Another app of mine next to it looks fine | 21:37 |
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| * artemma fails to understand app icon requirements :( One of them just works, another one doesn't and "creative" copy-pasting objects in graphics editors doesn't help | 22:00 | |
| artemma | even rob profiles are identical. Still one works and another one is displayed as empty | 22:03 |
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| artemma | rgb* profiles | 22:05 |
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| artemma | Okay, submitted two apps. Primitive, but working.. I think :) | 22:42 |
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