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| YnG | Hello. I have a question about Sailfish OS. | 12:17 |
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| YnG | Whether there will be the same method of killing apps in background like in Android? | 12:17 |
| YnG | Or much similar to Symbian (killing only during very low amount of RAM)? | 12:18 |
| YnG | In Android this method of RAM management is for me too "strict". | 12:20 |
| YnG | It is difficult to use 2 or 3 apps same time. | 12:21 |
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| thesignal | hi, i'm trying to add items (Rows with GlassItems in them) dynamical with a slider (slider value = number of rows). I have tried multiple things, and not really made any progress, could someone give me a hint how to do this? | 12:25 |
| thesignal | i first thought i should do this with javascript and passing the value of the slider to the js function, then create the components. but i fail at inserting them to the view it should appear, and also i fail at calling the function in "onressourcechanged" | 12:26 |
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| thesignal | anyone? | 12:50 |
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| thesignal | how do i get rid of the "fpixw is not defined" error? i have this exactly like it is defined in the componentgallery example... | 14:20 |
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| praeconium | Hi, guys, are there any available phones for purchase with SailfisfOS | 15:34 |
| disharmonic | preloaded? Not yet, afaik. Jolla should ship to ppl who preordered before the end of the year | 15:37 |
| praeconium | Not preloaded, I missed the preorder thing, but would it be possible to install it in some other phone?> | 15:38 |
| Yaniel | not really yet | 15:39 |
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| praeconium | And will there be any additional preorder any time soon? | 15:43 |
| Yaniel | maybe, maybe not | 15:44 |
| Yaniel | but the phone should be generally available soonish too | 15:45 |
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| disharmonic | Do we know what other phone unlock options there will be aside from double-tap? | 15:52 |
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| Yaniel | voice recognition? | 15:54 |
| Yaniel | no | 15:54 |
| Yaniel | at least I don't remember hearing anything | 15:54 |
| disharmonic | Yaniel, now that would be cool :P Well i'm hoping we do at least get a pattern unlock. Double-tap isn't really all that secure | 15:56 |
| Yaniel | pattern unlock is just as secure | 15:57 |
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| Yaniel | I know the patterns of multiple people's phones without really having tried to find them out | 15:58 |
| Yaniel | and without them knowing that I know | 15:58 |
| Yaniel | unless you mean secure as in "won't accidentally unlock in my pocket" | 15:58 |
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| disharmonic | Yaniel, depends on the situation. In case of a random theft i think it's unlikely the thief will know your pattern. | 15:59 |
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| Yaniel | depends on the situation | 16:02 |
| Yaniel | if they bother following you around for a while they are quite likely to see it | 16:02 |
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| dm8tbr | hmmm, I'm trying to port an app from harmattan and running into some include issues with the SDK targets | 17:15 |
| dm8tbr | I managed to convince it to include <gconf/2/gconf/gconf-client.h> | 17:20 |
| dm8tbr | but then that file tries to include glib-object.h and fails because it's in glib-2.0/glib-object.h | 17:21 |
| dm8tbr | I guess it's either adjusting include paths or something else? | 17:21 |
| dm8tbr | suggestions on how to do that in the QtC setup? | 17:21 |
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| dm8tbr | meh, just needed the proper PKCONFIG line | 18:07 |
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| saildev | Hey there! Soon we're able to send the applications to Harbour, right? ;) | 19:56 |
| Yaniel | yese | 19:56 |
| Yaniel | assuming you can load the page ^^ | 19:56 |
| saildev | Yeah, indeed. :D | 19:56 |
| saildev | I was just wondering that do I need to do anything else than selecting arm7hl - Release - Deploy as RPM package. | 19:57 |
| saildev | It creates a new folder called RPMS in my project folder which as this .rpm file, but not sure is it enough? | 19:57 |
| saildev | Do you have any idea, Yaniel? | 19:59 |
| Yaniel | the rpm file should be just fine | 20:00 |
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| saildev | Yeah, but it doesn't push it to the emulator but it do creates the RPM file. So not sure is it working properly then, though... And I can't see the custom images in any source files, but when I select i486-x86 and run the application on emulator it shows the images. | 20:04 |
| saildev | So basically everything should work so I'll just cross my fingers and hope for the best. :D | 20:04 |
| saildev | Weird because I've only tested these applications on an emulator. Used to test them on N9 when I developed apps on MeeGo for my own use only.. | 20:04 |
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| dm8tbr | saildev: it's all new here, so just try it out and send it off for review | 20:07 |
| dm8tbr | or put up the RPM for download and you might get told by someone with a device if it works. *wink* *wink* *nudge* *nudge* | 20:07 |
| saildev | Oh yeah, totally forgot that they test them.. :o It's not a common rule in a mobile industry so I totally forgot it. :D | 20:07 |
| saildev | Do you have a Jolla device? ;) | 20:07 |
| dm8tbr | on IRC nobody knows if you are a jolla device ;) | 20:08 |
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| saildev | Now that wasn't very fair... You got my interest! | 20:10 |
| Nicd- | so... is harbour opening next week? | 20:12 |
| saildev | Hope so.. I thought it went down only for a day. But still nothing.. :( | 20:14 |
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| dm8tbr | saildev: no RPM, no answer ;) | 20:22 |
| saildev | dm8tbr: Ah, I knew I've seen your nickname somewhere before.. I tried to list your name (starting with dm8) in Twitter but couldn't find anything. Suddenly I remember that it's only tbr and got ya! | 20:22 |
| saildev | Oh.. ;) | 20:22 |
| saildev | Hold on a second.. | 20:22 |
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| saildev | dm8tbr: https://www.dropbox.com/s/adkr8v7jddfut7k/yahtzee-0.1.rpm | 20:23 |
| saildev | *fingers crossed* | 20:23 |
| saildev | It still has a default icon, though.. :( Jolla still haven't provided any template for the icon pack. Just images how they're done but not an empty icon of any kind. | 20:25 |
| dm8tbr | saildev: it does 'stuff™' | 20:27 |
| saildev | Oooh.. | 20:27 |
| dm8tbr | given that I don't remember yahtzee rules (it's been a decade) it seems to do what it should | 20:28 |
| saildev | Excited like a little, happy boy on a Christmas eve.. ^^ | 20:28 |
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| saildev | Also it was kinda hard to provide the good looking dices and a scoreboard that would match the current ambiance theme so I'm not sure how it works with a darker ambiance themes.. I might have to change it as soon as I get the device on my hand as well. :) | 20:31 |
| saildev | But other applications are built using the ambiance theme. :) | 20:31 |
| dm8tbr | saildev: the contrast between enabled/disabled is a bit low on a dark ambience | 20:33 |
| saildev | Yeah, that's what I afraid of.. :/ | 20:34 |
| saildev | Hmm.. I think I need to try something else.. | 20:34 |
| saildev | What the application is called by the way? | 20:34 |
| dm8tbr | qt5_yahtzee | 20:35 |
| dm8tbr | and it says "Default cover" might want to replace that with e.g. a die or some dice | 20:36 |
| saildev | Yes, I know that one.. I've tried few alternatives to use as a cover. :) | 20:36 |
| saildev | Damn, it's hard to provide a good looking interface for dices because they can not be done with HTML codes - that way I just could've use it and a correct option for theme color. | 20:38 |
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| saildev | But since I have to use images and it's not able to use the ambience on them (at least I don't know how to..) it's hard. | 20:38 |
| dm8tbr | btw you could put just a dice cup on the cover | 20:38 |
| saildev | Hey, that might be a great idea. :) Thanks for the hint. | 20:39 |
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| saildev | Is it easy to use? | 20:49 |
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| Jonni | saildev: I would add throw-button in screen as there is room in bottom, and would make game faster to use as pulldown menu takes time | 21:05 |
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| dm8tbr | anyone know if sailfish has anything like QSystemAlignedTier? | 21:08 |
| dm8tbr | QSystemAlignedTimer | 21:09 |
| dm8tbr | that seems to have been a harmattan thing | 21:09 |
| saildev | I thought about that as well, Jonni. But in the end I thought to keep the screen 'clean' as the user may throw the dices simply from anywhere.. | 21:10 |
| saildev | And to think that this is just one variation of Yatzy out of many which I'm about to include in future releases.. And some of those variations have more options to choose from than those 13 on Yahtzee. | 21:11 |
| Jonni | dm8tbr: in Sailfish we use https://github.com/nemomobile/libiphb instead. QML api for that might be coming later. | 21:12 |
| dm8tbr | very uuuh, informative readme ;) | 21:13 |
| dm8tbr | Jonni: I'm trying to get this to work on sailfish/nemo: https://gitorious.org/sowatch/sowatch/source/c34471994d7393cba9840feb04d250f179cf815a:libsowatchbt/bluetoothwatch.h | 21:15 |
| dm8tbr | I can probably rip out the aligned timer thing | 21:15 |
| dm8tbr | but if there is a simple way to use that iphb thing | 21:15 |
| saildev | tbr, what do you think about the throw button? Would it be better on screen or via pulley menu? | 21:17 |
| dm8tbr | it follows the "clean" philosophy of sailfish of moving many 'additional' things out of the way | 21:18 |
| dm8tbr | I'm pretty much on the fence | 21:18 |
| saildev | Okay.. Then I wait for more reviews once we get the device as well. :) | 21:21 |
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| saildev | Any idea why I get these errors? If I get these (when compiling arm - release - rpm) I need to create a whole new project and compile it again when it works. | 21:24 |
| saildev | 1. make: warning: Clock skew detected. Your build may be incomplete. | 21:24 |
| saildev | 2. Error while building/deploying project qt5_yahtzee (kit: MerSDK-SailfishOS-armv7hl) | 21:25 |
| saildev | 3. When executing step 'Rpm' | 21:25 |
| dm8tbr | ah, that's probably clock synchronization of virtual machine and host | 21:25 |
| saildev | So how do I fix it? | 21:26 |
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| saildev | I've been struggling with this since the update where arm build were added.. | 21:27 |
| dm8tbr | hmm could be also qemu then | 21:27 |
| dm8tbr | don't remember how much is cross-build and how much in qemu | 21:28 |
| saildev | I have no problems at all if I only use i486-x86.. But if I use ARM I'm not able to build i486-x86 again and the ARM stops working as well. I've tried to restart the whole QtCreator as well as VB but nothing.. | 21:29 |
| dm8tbr | o.o | 21:29 |
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| dm8tbr | that sounds weird | 21:29 |
| saildev | And I'm not able to push the applicationto emulator if I only use ARM. | 21:29 |
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| saildev | Yeah.. I've also tried to reinstall both VB and QtCreator.. | 21:30 |
| saildev | I even took it a step further by reinstalling whole OS on my computer. :D | 21:30 |
| saildev | Still didn't help, though.. :( | 21:30 |
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| dm8tbr | might be worth checking if it was discussed on the mailing list | 21:31 |
| dm8tbr | and if not bring it up there | 21:31 |
| saildev | I've tried to look over there as well but couldn't find any similar situation. | 21:32 |
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| saildev | Hmm, I'll think of it tomorrow.. :) | 21:40 |
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| dm8tbr | ok, enough porting effort for today, time to catch some sleep | 22:17 |
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