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| mikelima | Hello everybody | 11:55 |
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| mikelima | I have updated the SDK yesterday... | 11:57 |
| mikelima | After that, I could not deploy the application because of a missing dependency. | 11:57 |
| mikelima | Today, I updated the repositories as suggested on the mailing list | 11:58 |
| mikelima | however, now I cannot run my program anymore... | 11:58 |
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| mikelima | That is the green triangle icon in QtCreator is grayed out, and the "run" section of the project says "remote path not set" with every field disabled. | 11:59 |
| mikelima | My application stays in a subdir of the project, that is I have a project of type subdir, with an "application" folder where the TARGET is set. can this be a problem? | 12:00 |
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| MMori | hi there, if anyone has an example on how to work with sqlite databases with javascript I'd be more than happy to take a look | 15:26 |
| MMori | https://github.com/sailfishapps/SilicaNote/blob/master/pages/js/storage.js or could tell me how many things here are going wrong | 15:27 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | MMori: sorry I don't know much about JS stuff | 15:38 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | usually I use C++ / Qt | 15:38 |
| MMori | :) thanks anyways for answering | 15:39 |
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| artemma | MMori: I think your code is generally fine | 15:50 |
| artemma | I used to work with HTML5 databases from Qt4.7, was pretty much the same | 15:50 |
| artemma | Nowadays I like wrapping LocalStorage in a more QMLish way as I find property bindings useful and stand-alone JS libraries are fine, but not as comfortable - https://github.com/amarchen/Wikipedia/blob/master/components/DbDictionary.qml | 15:51 |
| artemma | locusf: ping | 15:52 |
| MMori | artemma, that's not my code but I've been using it as a base for my code. It doesn't seem to return anything when I fetch data from the database. But I'll take a look at your code :) | 15:54 |
| artemma | MMori: you can compile whole project. Runs fine, saves data (that is in the prev SDK at least) | 15:54 |
| MMori | I shall do that | 15:55 |
| MMori | This will be a great help for me, thanks again ^^ | 15:55 |
| artemma | I plan releasing just the db component under a permissive license for ppl to reuse once I improve it more.. and find time | 15:57 |
| artemma | right now it's free for non-commercial share-alike and certainly ideas are free to borrow | 15:57 |
| artemma | what was the way to get to build machine console in the new sdk again? | 15:58 |
| dm8tbr | I think it starts hidden. so you either SSH to it or you change the settings for the machine in the VBox ui | 16:00 |
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| artemma | dm8tbr: there used to be some special key combination.. | 16:03 |
| artemma | I don't mind just (I use it for emulator anyway), but then I need to install some public RSA key from somewhere | 16:03 |
| artemma | can't quite see instructions in the sdk | 16:03 |
| dm8tbr | if you see the machine. hostkey-F1 or hostkey-F2 | 16:03 |
| artemma | that used to be the way, but Mer machine starts headless in the new sdk | 16:04 |
| artemma | dm8tbr: BTW, just watched deacon video about Mer today, was fun to see you and @achipa asking questions :) | 16:05 |
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| dm8tbr | :) | 16:06 |
| artemma | dm8tbr: devcon* | 16:06 |
| dm8tbr | yeah, so you either change settings in the VBox ui so it doesn't start headless | 16:06 |
| dm8tbr | or you SSH in | 16:06 |
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| artemma | I would actually prefer opening Mer console in just SSH, can use my favorite terminal then, but I understand nearly nothing about where to get the proper keys from | 16:06 |
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| dm8tbr | the FAQ has that | 16:07 |
| artemma | ah, raw that was! | 16:07 |
| dm8tbr | https://sailfishos.org/develop-faq.html | 16:07 |
| artemma | recalled it now, thanks | 16:08 |
| artemma | somehow I was expecting SDK docs to be in the SDK - stupid non-open source dev habits :D | 16:08 |
| dm8tbr | ;) | 16:08 |
| artemma | arrgh, how come both mer and sailfishes decide to speak finnish to me? | 16:10 |
| artemma | My mac is in English | 16:10 |
| dm8tbr | lol | 16:10 |
| artemma | Some NSA assistance? | 16:10 |
| dm8tbr | never had that problem | 16:10 |
| artemma | as a side note, everybody's life would be so much easier if we could use NSA-ids, no more hell with multiple accounts for multiple service anymore and they identify you properly anyway | 16:11 |
| Nicd- | artemma: maybe it picks it up from your system location | 16:12 |
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| artemma | yeah, my Region is set to Finland | 16:13 |
| artemma | Mac understands that location and language are different things, *nix terminal maybe not | 16:13 |
| Nicd- | I have strange preferences | 16:14 |
| Nicd- | I'm in Finland, I want programs in English but I want Finnish dates and times | 16:14 |
| Nicd- | many programs don't understand that | 16:14 |
| artemma | Nicd-: similar things here :) | 16:14 |
| artemma | most preferably I want console messages in English :) | 16:15 |
| artemma | ok, now I am in the console, checked some stuff and tools work. Now I need some help with packages and deployment and QtC integration to Mer | 16:15 |
| artemma | it used to work in the prev sdk, but not anymore | 16:15 |
| artemma | I have template=SUBDIRS project | 16:15 |
| artemma | with the main app and its tests (and it's really a hello world designed to illustrate the project structure) | 16:16 |
| artemma | two subpackages inside .spec file (and no .yaml) | 16:16 |
| MMori | artemma: your code did help :) thanks once more. I don't know how many hours I've been wondering why it doesn't work | 16:16 |
| artemma | ah, shit, the problem seems to be happening at earlier step than I thought, I'll get back with the better question later | 16:17 |
| artemma | MMori: what was the problem? | 16:18 |
| locusf | artemma: pong | 16:18 |
| artemma | locusf: I am messing with the tests subproject deployment in the new SDK (you seemed to be interested in helping yesterday) | 16:18 |
| MMori | I was just trying to read the data fetched from the database wrong. Didn't even think about using result.rows instead of returning the result | 16:18 |
| artemma | but right now I figured problem seem to be happening earlier, as stuff isn't generated in /home/deploy/installroot | 16:19 |
| MMori | I've still got a lot to learn | 16:19 |
| artemma | MMori: good that it works for you now! | 16:19 |
| MMori | :) yes, progress is always good | 16:19 |
| locusf | artemma: yes, wasn't sure that the tests subdir does work or not | 16:20 |
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| artemma | locusf: I don't get it. QtCreator run configuration isn't even offering "Run (on remote device)", only "Run (on Mer device)" | 16:23 |
| artemma | for both src and tests subprojects | 16:23 |
| locusf | artemma: yes | 16:23 |
| artemma | but somehow src does get started in emulator! | 16:24 |
| artemma | even if deployed via RPM package | 16:24 |
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| artemma | and I verified, new code actually gets deployed (changed some labels in the app to verify changes get to the emulator) | 16:25 |
| artemma | apparently RPM generation steps somehow changed. Stuff used to be picked up from /home/deploy/installroot, now it's empty | 16:26 |
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| artemma | where on earth does RPM packager fetch files from? | 16:28 |
| artemma | maybe installroot is now cleaned right after rpm generation.. | 16:30 |
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| artemma | checker RPM contents via rpm -qlp, seems correct though RPMs are supsiciosly small - test one is just 6.6KB | 16:36 |
| artemma | HA, test package does get generated, installs fine and binary can actually be run in the device! | 16:39 |
| artemma | So the problem is just QtCreator integration then | 16:39 |
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| artemma | How do I make QtC recognize what's the runnable binary in the device? | 16:40 |
| artemma | I mean it parses something (.spec file?) somehow | 16:40 |
| artemma | and does it fine for the main package, but not for the subpackage | 16:40 |
| artemma | or could it be parsing .yaml (that I deleted, because .yaml->.spec toolchain seems to not support multiple packages in sailfish SDK)? | 16:41 |
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| artemma | Why can't I at least specify "Alternative executable on device | 16:52 |
| artemma | ???? | 16:52 |
| * artemma angry | 16:52 | |
| artemma | Alternate exe field is disabled when QtC "don't know what to run" | 16:52 |
| artemma | isn't it the whole point of "Alternative executable on device" to be used when automatic detection fails?! | 16:53 |
| artemma | Okay, I will create the custom executable configuration (hopefully it works) | 16:54 |
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| artemma | okay, TEMPLATE = app was missing in the tests.pro | 17:01 |
| artemma | old sdk was fine with it, new one isn't | 17:01 |
| artemma | I specified TEMPLATE = app and now I am able to set alternative executable (default one is still guessed wrong) | 17:01 |
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| artemma | Find in creator's .user file for Sailfish app <value type="QString" key="Qt4ProjectManager.MaemoRunConfiguration.Arguments"></value> | 17:11 |
| artemma | old projects don't just die :) | 17:11 |
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| artemma | no, it was not missing TEMPLATE = app, restarted from scratch and cannot make creator make alternative executable settable for tests :( | 17:14 |
| artemma | and Custom Executable configuration seems to try starting app.. on a build machine? | 17:18 |
| artemma | How do I create configuration (on Mer device)? Or (on remote device) in QtCreator? | 17:20 |
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| artemma | arrgh, I give up. Will just write instructions to start tests manually from console, not from QtC | 17:25 |
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| artemma | How can you check the current SDK version? | 17:34 |
| artemma | I'd like to specify it in readme? | 17:34 |
| Nicd- | help -> about qt creator | 17:34 |
| artemma | that tells about creator only | 17:36 |
| artemma | I can also see about plugins and, well, can see there mer 2.8.1 | 17:36 |
| artemma | Okay, I recalled that current sdk name is "SDK Alpha Qt5". Still wondering where it's specified if anywhere though | 17:36 |
| Nicd- | creator version is what they asked me to tell when I had problems | 17:37 |
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| Nicd- | the "built from commit" or whatever | 17:37 |
| artemma | ah, ok, thanks | 17:37 |
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| artemma | shit, now that I started writing docs on how to run tests binary manually, Qt Creator allows me to set alternative executable for tests | 17:41 |
| artemma | ah, it drives me crazy | 17:41 |
| * artemma wants sailfish public bugtracker to be started some time soon | 17:41 | |
| artemma | or maybe I had the wrong target selected on the project page.. | 17:43 |
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| artemma | A-and, minimal [supposedly good] Sailfish pure QML app template with tests is ready and documented (sort of)! | 19:04 |
| artemma | Go clone, use, fork, whatever! :) | 19:04 |
| artemma | https://github.com/amarchen/sailfish-app-with-qml-test | 19:04 |
| artemma | and improve too, pull requests are very welcome | 19:05 |
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| kratton | mmh, how do i login to emulator via filezilla? | 19:48 |
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| artemma | Was thinking about adding my apps to https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Sailfish#App_List , but.. | 20:36 |
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| artemma | why are Sailfish apps listed on mer wiki? | 20:37 |
| artemma | Should we develop sailfish wiki instead? | 20:37 |
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| dm8tbr | artemma: that's a question for lbt_ and Stskeeps why there is no public wiki nor tracker nor other infrastructure than the mailing list | 20:40 |
| artemma | actually there is sailfish wiki | 20:40 |
| artemma | but it looks like not a wiki (part of main website) and there's no life there | 20:41 |
| artemma | bug tracker is promised, should come at some point | 20:41 |
| dm8tbr | isn't it read only? | 20:41 |
| artemma | I'd submit some bugs to it | 20:41 |
| artemma | hum, I never tried logging it :) | 20:41 |
| dm8tbr | also mailing list reported bugs are happily ignored | 20:42 |
| artemma | You know, doesn't look like a wiki -> my contribution is likely to go extinct when it dies because nobody believes it's wiki :) | 20:42 |
| artemma | I guess they don't have enough hands for public support yet | 20:43 |
| artemma | or say it the other way, they've got enough internal-detected bugs to work on :) | 20:43 |
| dm8tbr | https://lists.sailfishos.org/pipermail/devel/2013-February/000001.html - reported, acknowledged, reminded, acknowledged. still there in latest SDK | 20:43 |
| lbt_ | hmm | 20:43 |
| lbt_ | dm8tbr: not me ... I've been complaining since last january | 20:44 |
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| lbt | the sailfish wiki is a wiki but it's not open to public yet | 20:44 |
| dm8tbr | lbt: who do I kick then? | 20:44 |
| dm8tbr | lbt: here's a magic number btw: 5312 ;) | 20:45 |
| lbt | frankly we don't have the spare manpower to set this stuff up so Stskeeps and I let Jolla community use Mer BZ and wiki | 20:45 |
| lbt | sdk is on there | 20:45 |
| artemma | I remember reporting a couple of things that just died. I guess there's just no monitoring of list for bugs, so it's up to luck whether an issue gets really noticed | 20:45 |
| dm8tbr | lbt: has that been publicly announced? | 20:45 |
| lbt | dm8tbr: not heavily - we're mainly supporting dev side atm | 20:45 |
| artemma | mer BZ even? Oh, so we can try reporting sailfish-specific issues there? | 20:46 |
| lbt | artemma: and that's why it's not public :) | 20:46 |
| lbt | we'd rather keep the Mer BZ for mer/OSS issues | 20:46 |
| artemma | public dev tracker VS working on internal device is the same as app dev/infra support VS building first device | 20:47 |
| artemma | I guess I'd focus more on the first device too :) | 20:47 |
| dm8tbr | I can try to make sure bugs get to jolla. I have my channels for that. but for that they need to be well laid out. I won't verify them myself. | 20:47 |
| lbt | so if you have a problem with SDK *tools* which come from mer-tools then Mer BZ is OK | 20:47 |
| lbt | for silica components though - it's the wrong place | 20:47 |
| artemma | OK, then I can post by QtCreator related issues to mer bz | 20:48 |
| artemma | th | 20:48 |
| artemma | x | 20:48 |
| lbt | yep | 20:48 |
| * dm8tbr should read the sailfish list more. was too busy lately. | 20:48 | |
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| * artemma wants shadow build enabled by default. Don't like checking in .pro.user, but setting up shadow build for end users - not good | 21:03 | |
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| artemma | Looking at my app RPM installation log. Something required Package:qt4-default-4.8.3-1.1.70.i486.. wow | 21:11 |
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| artemma | Hmm, qml stuff wasn't really meant to reuse each other | 23:05 |
| artemma | My app uses stats and db to-be-submodules | 23:05 |
| artemma | while stats would also like to use db (for storing not-yet-send stats api calls between app runs) | 23:06 |
| artemma | and it is all pure qml | 23:06 |
| artemma | how do I make stats submodule use db module from another not known in advance place in hierarchy? | 23:06 |
| artemma | #againACaseForContitionalQmlImports | 23:07 |
| artemma | or maybe C++ side could register types from QML too.. | 23:07 |
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