Monday, 2013-08-26

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sillygirl96Hi guys, are Jolla build-in apps (gallery, media players, address book) available for emulator?08:22
Stskeepsthey're not, but i think there's an example gallery in the SDK examples?08:23
sillygirl96ok, it would be nice to test some ui designs of sailfish apps. Do you know any good examples that could be checked out on how to do UI on sailfish?08:27
Stskeepsyes, the SDK and component galleries etc are quite good :)08:27
sillygirl96yeah, I mean real world designs but I guess we need to wait for the device to actually get the feel and then see what kind of ui designs people come up08:29
Yanielthere are a bunch of opensource projects around already08:29
sillygirl96can you give any links to apps that you think have good/neat ui design08:31
sillygirl96I'm sure there are some neat ui tricks out there08:31
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veskuhMany open source apps are here: https://github.com/sailfishapps08:39
veskuhMost are not yet updated to Qt5 though08:39
veskuhthose are community apps and quality varie08:39
veskuhvaries08:39
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bzarecan somebody tell me what's the CPU in latest SDK phone emulator?09:05
Stskeepsbzare: your own host one09:05
Stskeepsit's a X86 emulator09:05
bzaredoes it mean Jolla phone will have x86, too?09:05
Stskeepsnop09:05
Stskeepsjust that the emulator is x86, nothing more, nothing less09:05
bzareafair Harmattan had ARM cpu in emu. kinda strange why Jolla chose to stick to x86 in emu09:06
Stskeepsbzare: it comes down to LLVMpipe and SW rendering09:06
Stskeepsbzare: most of the development work happens on QML side; and you want to have 60fps UI to develop correctly09:07
bzaremakes sense09:07
bzarethank you09:07
Nicd-I'm sure the phone will have ARM09:09
bzarehopefully, it's not TI :)09:09
Nicd-yay, up to 64 GB microsd, I'll be able to fit all my music09:09
dm8tbrTI doesn't have a mobile phone SoC offering anymore09:10
bzareso they might get big discounts on that and put it in09:10
bzareI doubt they'll go qualcomm, as I heard Nokia engineers had trouble relationships with them09:11
dm8tbrOMAP5 was repurposed as a high price IVI SoC aka Jacinto609:12
dm8tbralso you would need to latch a modem to it09:12
Stskeepsbzare: if you have to have close relationship with your SoC vendor in this day and age, you're doing it wrong..09:12
Stskeeps:P09:12
dm8tbr:>09:13
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fk_lxprobably no one wants to be depended from one SoC vendor, it didn't worked in case of TI09:14
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Yaniely/win 2612:22
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dr_gogeta86hi14:29
dr_gogeta86guys14:29
dr_gogeta86anyone here runs sailfish os sdk on windows 714:30
dr_gogeta86i've problems with merssh14:30
dr_gogeta86since first alpha14:30
dr_gogeta86due some request i need to use windows to develop14:30
dr_gogeta86can anyone help me to fix this problem14:30
dr_gogeta86????14:31
Sfiet_Konstantindr_gogeta86: maybe be more precise ?14:36
Sfiet_KonstantinI don't have a windows machine, but some devs around does have14:36
Sfiet_Konstantinwhat's the issue dr_gogeta86 ?14:36
dr_gogeta86merssh crash during copy files  to sailfish virtual machine14:39
Sfiet_Konstantindr_gogeta86: any trace ?14:39
Sfiet_Konstantinwhich deployment mode ?14:39
dr_gogeta86nothing more than windoze appcrash14:40
Sfiet_Konstantindid you tried with "rpm" or "rsync" modes ?14:40
Sfiet_Konstantinlbt: ^14:40
dr_gogeta86Firma problema:   Nome evento problema:APPCRASH   Nome applicazione:merssh.exe   Versione applicazione:0.0.0.0   Timestamp applicazione:51fa373a   Nome modulo con errori:kernel32.dll   Versione modulo con errori:6.1.7601.17965   Timestamp modulo con errori:506dbe4f   Codice eccezione:c0000005   Offset eccezione:00011389   Versione SO:6.1.7601.2.1.0.256.48   ID impostazioni locali:1040   Informazioni aggiuntive 1:01f14:40
Sfiet_Konstantingreat :D14:40
Sfiet_Konstantinare you running 32 bits SDK on 64 bits machine maybe ?14:40
Sfiet_Konstantinsorry dr_gogeta86, I won't be very helpful. But posting on the ML can be great as well14:41
Sfiet_Konstantindr_gogeta86: https://lists.sailfishos.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devel14:41
dr_gogeta86yep14:41
dr_gogeta86you still in intern ?14:41
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Sfiet_Konstantinyes14:43
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dr_gogeta86I hope you make something great out there14:46
dr_gogeta86sometimes i saw some test tweets14:46
dr_gogeta86last week I've found an Idea for sailfish14:46
dr_gogeta86and for old n9 too14:46
dr_gogeta86I wanna post a PoC asap14:47
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Sfiet_Konstantindr_gogeta86: great to see devs on board :)14:49
dr_gogeta86I'm not a dev14:49
Sfiet_Konstantindr_gogeta86: you can learn14:49
dr_gogeta86I'm just a freak sysadmin14:49
Sfiet_Konstantinenough :)14:49
dr_gogeta86the strange thing14:53
dr_gogeta86regenerated keys14:53
dr_gogeta86test emulator14:53
dr_gogeta86done14:53
dr_gogeta86show remote process done14:53
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artemmaHi all20:30
artemmaDo you know how browse SDK for the headers installed :/20:30
artemmaI tried sshing to ~/SailfishOS/vmshare/ssh/private_keys/engine/mersdk mersdk@localhost and the result is.. strange20:31
artemmait looks like I logged in into something, yet it shows bash for my host pc20:31
Stskeepsartemma: shared folders20:31
artemmaah, indeed20:32
artemmain targets etc20:32
artemmaChecking if there's some Jolla or Mer replacement for MeeGo's MGConfItem20:32
artemmait was quite convenient20:33
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faenilartemma, you can still use MGConfItem ;)20:35
artemmareally? wow20:35
faenilit's in mlite5, which is still used in Nemo, don't know about sailfish20:35
artemmaI sort of expected that all things harmattan should be forgotten20:35
faenilartemma, trying to, I guess :D20:35
faenilbut something will stay, if I understood correctly20:35
faenilartemma, look at the qtquick2 port of qtcomponents (running on nemo) https://github.com/nemomobile/qt-components/blob/qtquick2/src/meego/mdeclarativescreen.cpp#L20220:37
artemmabrowsing SDK for headers..20:37
artemmawow, indeed, in mlite20:38
artemmanot sure what mlite is, but I like the header :)20:38
artemmathanks!20:38
Stskeepsit's useful classes from libmeegotouch20:38
Stskeepswhich is surprisingily few!20:38
Stskeeps:P20:38
faenilartemma, this is mlite :D https://github.com/nemomobile/mlite/tree/master/src20:39
faenilStskeeps, ahah20:39
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artemmaTrying to set wallpaper via gconf (worked fine in harmattan)20:57
artemmaall the same gconf keys exist20:58
artemmaand look good20:58
artemmabut modifying them has no effect even after reboot20:58
artemmaInterestingly even replacing wallpaper.jpg with something else doesn't change a thing :)20:58
artemmaprobably is cached somewhere20:59
faenilmaybe because it's not used anymore :) I don't know about the keys20:59
artemmaand systemctl restart graphical.target doesn't help21:02
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artemmaSfiet_Konstantin's blog indicated that at least something is in effect still21:02
artemmahttp://sfietkonstantin.wordpress.com/2013/03/07/dev-ambiance-changer-my-first-sailfish-os-app/21:03
artemmathere are only a few gconf keys in the whole emulator and couple of them are about wallpaper and they point to a valid wallpaper.jpg21:03
artemmaactually he even has source code that does almost same (just without keys) https://gitorious.org/qt-hacks/sailfishsdk-ambiance-changer/source/10e0443c5d4b324f8bb01b8b8ebe3664124ade50:helper/main.cpp#L2421:05
artemmahmm, interesting21:05
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artemmaoh well, maybe I ask him when he's online21:08
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