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SuperpelicanSfiet_Konstantin: Do you remember the discussion we had a while ago about me choosing the GPLv3 for my Sailfish app (and also desktop Qt app now)10:39
Sfiet_Konstantinyes10:40
SuperpelicanSfiet_Konstantin:well recently10:40
SuperpelicanI stumbled across an app of yours with the GNU GPLv3 as licence10:41
Superpelicanwhy did you choose it back then?10:41
Superpelicanit's not that old IIRC10:41
Sfiet_KonstantinSuperpelican: yes, but I changed :)10:41
Sfiet_Konstantinthe headers are old10:41
Sfiet_Konstantin(if you see 2012 on it)10:41
Superpelicanhow?10:41
Sfiet_KonstantinI used to use GPLv3, thinking about myself, and feeling safe10:41
Sfiet_Konstantinbut I found that GPLv3 is not the best license to collaborate10:42
Sfiet_Konstantinthat's all10:42
Sfiet_Konstantinmost of my newer code is BSD10:42
Superpelican:nod:10:42
Superpelicanwell I've changed too :D10:42
Sfiet_Konstantin(maybe there are GPL code, but it is usually about UI)10:42
Sfiet_Konstantindon't want people to mess with my UI :P10:42
Superpelicanbut not as much10:42
SuperpelicanI think that my next app (which is non-Sailfish)10:43
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Superpelican(but I'll port it when I have more time again)10:43
Superpelican:D10:43
Superpelicanis going to use the MPL10:43
SuperpelicanSfiet_Konstantin: Mozilla Public License10:44
Nicd-why MPL?10:44
Superpelicanwell10:44
Superpelicanbecause it's a best of both worlds license10:44
Sfiet_Konstantindon't know much about MPL10:45
Sfiet_Konstantinit might be good10:45
SuperpelicanNicd-: I like the fact of of the GPL that the code can't be made closed source10:45
Sfiet_KonstantinSuperpelican:10:45
Sfiet_KonstantinI'm not afraid of that anymore10:45
Superpelicanbut I don't like the fact that the GPL is viral10:45
Sfiet_KonstantinLGPL10:45
Nicd-Superpelican: but it needs to be viral to ensure your first point10:46
Superpelicanwell not exactly10:46
Sfiet_Konstantinif people want to make the code closed source, it is ok, as in BSD license I still retrain part of the copyright10:46
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Superpelicanbut10:46
SuperpelicanI think the GPL should be more friendly to other open source licences10:47
Nicd-Superpelican: then someone will just relicense it as MIT and then use it in a closed source project10:47
Superpelicanfor example allow linking GPL to BSD/Apache/MIT/X1110:47
Superpelicanso10:47
Superpelicannote: that I've not done a terrible amount of research just yet about the MPL10:47
SuperpelicanI've just read some introduction on Wikipedia10:48
Superpelicanthat's why I said: "I think"10:48
SuperpelicanI'm not sure yet10:48
SuperpelicanSfiet_Konstantin: but are you relicensing your old code?10:49
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Sfiet_KonstantinI will, if I pick it up10:49
Sfiet_KonstantinI want to reborn publictransportation10:50
Sfiet_Konstantinand friends as well10:50
Sfiet_Konstantin(even if I'm a bit fed up with this facebook thing)10:50
Sfiet_Konstantinonce again, license doesn't matter, code is the most important :)10:51
Sfiet_Konstantinand if someone asks me: can I use your code under GPLv3 under any other license, I'm likely to accept10:52
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SuperpelicanSfiet_Konstantin: some interesting parts of the Mozilla Public License FAQ:http://paste.kde.org/pec2f96b5/11:41
Superpelicanoops11:41
Superpelicannooo11:41
Superpelicanspace11:41
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maxamillionis there a way to install SailfishOS on any devices other than the Jolla?17:10
Yanielif the bootloader is not locked17:10
Nicd-yes, but not yet since the OS is not released17:10
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wmaroneand there are no public ARM builds that I am aware of17:15
wmaronesome have loaded the VM image on actual x86 hardware17:15
Nicd-there are no public builds at all except for the emulator17:15
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maxamillionah ok17:24
maxamillionthanks for the information17:24
maxamillionI've got a handful of unlocked android devices and a couple geeksphone firefoxos devices I'd be interested in checking out sailfish on one of them ... didn't realize there wasn't an official release but certainly didn't see much info in how to get sailfishos on the site17:26
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