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| MFaro-Tusino | ahoy | 06:58 |
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| chriadam | o/ | 06:59 |
| MFaro-Tusino | Chriadam: How's things? | 06:59 |
| chriadam | things are busy, but good, thanks :-) | 07:00 |
| chriadam | how's things with you? | 07:00 |
| MFaro-Tusino | Yeah, same. Busy with uni, yet still procrastinating so I can code haha | 07:01 |
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| chriadam | ;-) | 07:05 |
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| earman | I really want to work at Jolla ! | 09:12 |
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| MFaro-Tusino | Don't we all hahha | 09:14 |
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| dm8tbr | earman: send them your CV. | 09:41 |
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| earman | dm8tbr thanks,i will try | 09:43 |
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| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:ping | 10:15 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | Superpelican: error: connection timeout | 10:39 |
| Superpelican | lol | 10:39 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:So that's a 503? | 10:39 |
| Superpelican | (Service unavailable) | 10:40 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Superpelican: well, service partly available | 10:40 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | (I'm just hacking at the same time) | 10:41 |
| Superpelican | ok | 10:41 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | so expect latency | 10:41 |
| Superpelican | it won't take to long | 10:41 |
| Superpelican | s/to/too | 10:41 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:Can you make QML objects invisible/hidden? | 10:41 |
| Superpelican | (aside from them always being invisible like Item{} by default) | 10:41 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | Superpelican: visible: false | 10:50 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | opacity: 0 | 10:50 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | etc. | 10:50 |
| Superpelican | ok | 10:50 |
| Superpelican | then I'll try that | 10:50 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | (read docs :)) | 10:50 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:I want to hide the answer_textField | 10:50 |
| Superpelican | after the user has answered all questions | 10:50 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | Superpelican: visible false, or opacity 0 | 10:59 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | opacity 0 can be animated | 10:59 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | so it is more beautiful$ | 10:59 |
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| Khertan_Clone_12 | Hello ! | 11:24 |
| Khertan_Clone_12 | A similar component to InfoBanner made with DockPanel for Silica : http://khertan.net/blog/silica_infobanner | 11:25 |
| Khertan_Clone_12 | but only with text | 11:25 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | Khertan_Clone_12: screen ? :) | 11:48 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | sounds nice :) | 11:48 |
| Khertan_Clone_12 | ______________________________ | ________________________ | | | | | | | This is a infoBanner | | | | Component | | | |________________________| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | 11:51 |
| Khertan_Clone_12 | arg ... | 11:51 |
| Khertan_Clone_12 | loupé | 11:51 |
| Khertan_Clone_12 | ______________________________ | ________________________ | | | | | | | This is a infoBanner | | | | Component | | | |________________________| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | 11:51 |
| Khertan_Clone_12 | grrrr | 11:51 |
| Khertan_Clone_12 | stupid webchat ... can't do ascii art | 11:51 |
| Khertan_Clone_12 | :) | 11:51 |
| Khertan_Clone_12 | Sfiet_Konstantin: did you know any apps to record video on screen on windows 7 ? | 11:53 |
| Superpelican | Khertan_Clone_12:Are InfoBanner's similiar to notifications in Maemo 5/Fremantle? | 11:58 |
| Khertan_Clone_12 | Superpelican: nope | 11:59 |
| Khertan_Clone_12 | InfoBanner is infoBanner | 11:59 |
| Khertan_Clone_12 | :) | 11:59 |
| Superpelican | Well I don't have a N9 | 11:59 |
| Superpelican | :( | 11:59 |
| Khertan_Clone_12 | that a popup box appearing at the top of your apps | 11:59 |
| Superpelican | So I'll have to look it up on a search engine | 11:59 |
| Khertan_Clone_12 | to display information | 11:59 |
| Superpelican | ok | 11:59 |
| Khertan_Clone_12 | Superpelican: http://developer.nokia.com/Community/Wiki/images/thumb/3/31/466421911_thumb.jpg/171px-466421911_thumb.jpg <<< the message at the top is an InfoBanner | 12:01 |
| Khertan_Clone_12 | with an icon | 12:01 |
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| Superpelican | Khertan_Clone_12:Hmm | 12:02 |
| Superpelican | Khertan_Clone_12:I think they actually are pretty similiar to Fremantle notifications | 12:02 |
| Superpelican | like "WiFi off" on the N900 | 12:02 |
| Superpelican | or "Connected to network XXX" | 12:02 |
| Superpelican | it's just that they're more transparent, and gray instead of the dominant color of whatever theme you have on your N900 | 12:03 |
| Superpelican | and they stick to the top instead of at 3/4 of screen height | 12:03 |
| Superpelican | Khertan_Clone_12:http://wiki.maemo.org/images/c/c5/Libdbus-example.png | 12:04 |
| Khertan_Clone_12 | Superpelican: this isn't a notification even on n900, as it didn't stay in the toolbar | 12:05 |
| Khertan_Clone_12 | :) | 12:05 |
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| Khertan_Clone_12 | Superpelican: but more like a InfoBanner | 12:05 |
| Superpelican | Khertan_Clone_12:hmm yeah | 12:06 |
| Khertan_Clone_12 | Superpelican: data:image/jpeg;base64,/9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAQAAAQABAAD/2wCEAAkGBhASEA8QDxAPDxAPDw0NEAwPDw8NDQ0NFBAVFBQQEhIXHSYeFxkkGRQUHy8gIycqLCwsFR49NTAqNSYrLSkBCQoKDgwOFw8PGikcHRwpKSkpKSkpKSkpKSwpKSkvKSkpKSktKSk0KSwpKSwpLCwpKSk1KSkpKSkpLCwpLCwpKf/AABEIAK4BIgMBIgACEQEDEQH/xAAbAAACAwEBAQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAQIDBAUHBv/EAEQQAAICAQMBAwYKBgkFAQAAAAABAgMRBBIhMQUTQQYHFCJRYSMyUnFzgZGhotFilLGys8IVJTNCQ1N0k8EkY2Ry8Bb/xAAbAQADAQEBAQEAAAAAAAA | 12:06 |
| Khertan_Clone_12 | Superpelican: this ! is a notification | 12:06 |
| Superpelican | N900 has 2 sorts of notification | 12:06 |
| Superpelican | system notifications | 12:06 |
| Superpelican | and app notifications | 12:06 |
| Superpelican | like incoming email | 12:06 |
| Superpelican | and "Connected to network XXX" (system notification) | 12:07 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Khertan_Clone_12: sounds nice | 12:07 |
| Khertan_Clone_12 | Superpelican: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pv3fcwx2TUY | 12:07 |
| Superpelican | Khertan_Clone_12:That link doesn't work | 12:07 |
| Khertan_Clone_12 | Superpelican: http://www.mobile-review.com/review/image/nokia/maemo5/scr/conversations-messaging/sms18.jpg | 12:08 |
| Khertan_Clone_12 | :) | 12:08 |
| Superpelican | Khertan_Clone_12:Yes, that's what I meant with app notification | 12:08 |
| Superpelican | the other notification are "system notifications" | 12:09 |
| Superpelican | at least | 12:09 |
| Superpelican | I don't know a better name for them | 12:09 |
| Khertan_Clone_12 | wahou ... vlc encoding is really good a video of 151 Mo is compressed to 203 bytes | 12:11 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Khertan_Clone_12: hehe nice | 12:12 |
| Superpelican | Khertan_Clone_12:that's ffmpeg | 12:12 |
| Superpelican | VLC is based on FFMPEG | 12:13 |
| Superpelican | which is really nice :D | 12:13 |
| Superpelican | ffmpeg -x11grab is the only way I can record my screen | 12:13 |
| Khertan_Clone_12 | Superpelican: can't i 'm at works ... no x11 | 12:14 |
| Superpelican | :nod: | 12:14 |
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| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin: "QML Image: Cannot open: file:///opt/sdk/Quick2Clamshell/usr/share/Quick2Clamshell/images/clamshell-final.png" | 12:19 |
| Superpelican | Qt Creator auto complete found the image | 12:19 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | try to see if it got installed | 12:19 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | my wild guess is: no | 12:19 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:And if it's not installed, what should I do? | 12:22 |
| Superpelican | add it to the .pro in some way? | 12:22 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Superpelican: yes | 12:23 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:I've also read about Qt Resource files .qrc, is that Qt Widgets/Qt4 only? | 12:24 |
| Superpelican | is adding to .pro consired a good style? | 12:24 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | Superpelican: http://paste.kde.org/p148a59e1/ | 12:30 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | this is for deploying the icon | 12:30 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | do the same for other stuff | 12:30 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | change path that's all | 12:30 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | it is pretty easy | 12:30 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Superpelican: yes, one of your code file, so do whatever you want on it | 12:31 |
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| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:ah ok thanks :) | 12:32 |
| Superpelican | that looks pretty understandable and clean | 12:32 |
| Khertan_Clone_12 | Sfiet_Konstantin: pfff it s difficult to found a tool to record screen that s works on windows | 12:33 |
| Morpog_ | Khertan_Clone_12, fraps | 12:33 |
| Khertan_Clone_12 | Sfiet_Konstantin: the better result i got ... slow : http://khertan.net/medias/infobanner2.avi | 12:34 |
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| Khertan_Clone_12 | Morpog_: thx | 12:34 |
| Superpelican | Khertan_Clone_12:yep | 12:34 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Khertan_Clone_12: welcome to the world of 2FPS | 12:34 |
| Morpog_ | or camstudio | 12:34 |
| Superpelican | lol | 12:34 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Khertan_Clone_12: sounds pretty ok | 12:35 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | looks | 12:35 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | but the message is ugly | 12:35 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | but it looks good | 12:35 |
| Khertan_Clone_12 | Sfiet_Konstantin: it s an error message it should be ugly ! | 12:35 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Khertan_Clone_12: make it more transparent ? | 12:35 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | yes, you are right | 12:36 |
| Khertan_Clone_12 | Sfiet_Konstantin: that like big red button | 12:36 |
| Superpelican | lol: [14:34] <Sfiet_Konstantin> but the message is ugly [14:34] <Sfiet_Konstantin> but it looks good :D | 12:36 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | the system looks good | 12:36 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | the message looks ugly | 12:36 |
| Superpelican | ah | 12:36 |
| Khertan_Clone_12 | Sfiet_Konstantin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQczj9Gdk_s | 12:37 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | Khertan_Clone_12: yeah, exactly | 12:39 |
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| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:It didn't work :( | 12:43 |
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| Superpelican | got the same error | 12:43 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | make it work | 12:43 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:I added http://paste.kde.org/p82cbd024/ | 12:44 |
| Superpelican | Isn't that correct? | 12:44 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | yes and no | 12:46 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | ooc | 12:46 |
| Superpelican | ? | 12:46 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | check what's in file:///opt/sdk/Quick2Clamshell/usr/share/Quick2Clamshell/ | 12:46 |
| Superpelican | what's "ooc"? | 12:46 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | is there your image | 12:46 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | ooc is my trial to impose a new word on irc | 12:46 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | (out of curiosity) | 12:46 |
| Superpelican | ah :D | 12:47 |
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| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:Well | 12:48 |
| Superpelican | there's CoverPage.qml | 12:48 |
| Superpelican | and the cover folder | 12:48 |
| Superpelican | and main.qml | 12:48 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | not your image ? | 12:48 |
| Superpelican | and the pages folder | 12:48 |
| Superpelican | nope | 12:48 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | not an icon | 12:48 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | well | 12:48 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | manage | 12:48 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | it is not hard | 12:48 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | a problem about running qmake / path | 12:48 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | read also the content of sailfishapplication.pri | 12:49 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | path are defined here etc | 12:49 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:I replaced "icon" with "image", is that legal? | 12:49 |
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| Khertan_Clone_12 | Morpog_: look like it didn't works on win7 | 12:50 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Superpelican: it is | 12:50 |
| Superpelican | hmm | 12:51 |
| Morpog_ | Khertan_Clone_12, try camstudio, it's opensource | 12:51 |
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| Khertan_Clone_12 | Morpog_: the 2fps movies was made with camstudio :) | 12:52 |
| Morpog_ | oh, lol | 12:52 |
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| Khertan_Clone_12 | Morpog_: oh i got a better result .... 152Mo for 12s of video | 12:54 |
| Khertan_Clone_12 | :) | 12:54 |
| Morpog_ | you can adjust the FPS in video settings | 12:56 |
| Khertan_Clone_12 | i ll let youtube convert it ... then download it again :) | 12:56 |
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| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:The image is in /opt/sdk/Quick2Clamshell/images/clamshell-final.png | 13:01 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:But somehow | 13:01 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:Qt Creator looks for it in /opt/sdk/Quick2Clamshell/usr/share/Quick2Clamshell/images/clamshell-final.png | 13:02 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:But why? | 13:02 |
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| dimitris91 | hello | 13:03 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Superpelican: try to unserstand :) | 13:03 |
| Superpelican | dimitris91:Hello | 13:03 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | dimitris91: hey ! | 13:03 |
| dimitris91 | I installed the Sailfish SDK and I am trying to run an application | 13:03 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | dimitris91: :) | 13:03 |
| dimitris91 | but when I hit the build button it fails | 13:03 |
| Superpelican | dimitris91:What application? | 13:03 |
| Superpelican | dimitris91:The template? | 13:03 |
| dimitris91 | just a simple one | 13:04 |
| dimitris91 | yeah | 13:04 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | dimitris91: what is the error log ? | 13:04 |
| dimitris91 | it says that it can not connect to SailfishOS emulator | 13:04 |
| Superpelican | dimitris91:ah | 13:04 |
| Superpelican | dimitris91:Have you started the Mer SDK and emulator? | 13:04 |
| dimitris91 | yeah both of them | 13:04 |
| Superpelican | dimitris91:Are the buttons red? | 13:05 |
| dimitris91 | no that's the problem I think | 13:05 |
| dimitris91 | when I started them | 13:05 |
| dimitris91 | there were some errors as well | 13:05 |
| Superpelican | dimitris91:Do they have grey stop buttons on them? | 13:05 |
| Khertan_Clone_12 | Sfiet_Konstantin: http://youtu.be/lPfF_hcs2rI | 13:06 |
| dimitris91 | no | 13:06 |
| dimitris91 | when I started Mer SDk | 13:06 |
| Superpelican | hmm | 13:06 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Khertan_Clone_12: :D | 13:06 |
| Khertan_Clone_12 | less ugly ... | 13:06 |
| Superpelican | Khertan_Clone_12:That looks a lot better :) | 13:06 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | yep | 13:06 |
| dimitris91 | it said : Mer SDK: Timeout waiting for server to reply | 13:06 |
| Superpelican | ah | 13:06 |
| Khertan_Clone_12 | Sfiet_Konstantin: and depends on theme | 13:06 |
| Khertan_Clone_12 | :) | 13:06 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Khertan_Clone_12: :) | 13:06 |
| Morpog_ | Khertan_Clone_12, you can record directly to swf files | 13:06 |
| Khertan_Clone_12 | Morpog_: when it s works :) | 13:07 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:You don't need internet connection to SSH to the Mer SDK/emulator, do you? | 13:07 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | don't | 13:07 |
| Superpelican | hmm | 13:07 |
| Yaniel | Superpelican: no, they are on localhost | 13:07 |
| Superpelican | Yaniel:know | 13:07 |
| Superpelican | but I didn't know | 13:07 |
| Khertan_Clone_12 | Morpog_: all i got was boiled pixels | 13:07 |
| Morpog_ | that info banner looks quite good | 13:07 |
| Superpelican | if they would get an ip address assigned then etc. | 13:08 |
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| Superpelican | I'm no network pro ;) | 13:08 |
| Yaniel | you want to use networking from the emulator? | 13:09 |
| Superpelican | Yaniel:no, dimitris91 is having problems with his SDK | 13:09 |
| Yaniel | ah that | 13:09 |
| Superpelican | Yaniel:Qt Creator can't connect to the Mer SDK | 13:09 |
| Superpelican | "Timeout waiting for server to reply" | 13:09 |
| Yaniel | dimitris91: does the SDK VM window show up at all? | 13:10 |
| dimitris91 | Yaniel: yeah | 13:10 |
| dimitris91 | Yaniel: I can also login to it | 13:11 |
| Superpelican | dimitris91:Are you using Windows, Linux or Mac OS X? | 13:11 |
| dimitris91 | Superpelican: Ubuntu 12.04 | 13:12 |
| Superpelican | ok | 13:12 |
| Superpelican | dimitris91:So ssh'ing into the Mer SDK manually does work? | 13:12 |
| dimitris91 | Superpelican: no I don't mean that | 13:12 |
| Superpelican | you mean | 13:13 |
| Superpelican | right ctrl + F1 | 13:13 |
| Superpelican | or right ctrl + F2? | 13:13 |
| dimitris91 | yeah exactly | 13:13 |
| Superpelican | and then logging in | 13:13 |
| Superpelican | hmm | 13:13 |
| dimitris91 | that's right | 13:13 |
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| Superpelican | dimitris91:Then it must be something related to the SSH connection | 13:13 |
| Superpelican | between Qt Creator and the Mer SDK VM | 13:13 |
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| Superpelican | I'm now SSH expert | 13:14 |
| Superpelican | so I can't really help you with that | 13:14 |
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| Superpelican | you should ask someone ask here | 13:14 |
| Superpelican | there are plenty of people that could help you | 13:14 |
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| Superpelican | dimitris91:You can search on Google/<insert_your_favourite_search_engine> with something like "ssh timeout waiting for server to reply" | 13:16 |
| Superpelican | maybe you can find a solution | 13:16 |
| Morpog_ | dimitris91, did you read the FAQ and known issues page? | 13:16 |
| Yaniel | so.. try to SSH into the VM as explained on https://sailfishos.org/develop-faq.html | 13:16 |
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| Superpelican | Khertan_Clone_12:As your InfoBanner on for errors? | 13:18 |
| Superpelican | s/as/is | 13:18 |
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| Superpelican | Khertan_Clone_12:And what's the licence? | 13:18 |
| Superpelican | Khertan_Clone_12:Is it in public domain? | 13:19 |
| dimitris91 | Yaniel: I' ll try it | 13:19 |
| Khertan_Clone_12 | Superpelican: it s for text ... error if you want ... ... licence .... hum .... let me think ... hum | 13:19 |
| Khertan_Clone_12 | MIT License | 13:19 |
| Khertan_Clone_12 | hopla ! | 13:19 |
| Khertan_Clone_12 | that s not complicated :) | 13:19 |
| Khertan_Clone_12 | much more a snippet ... | 13:19 |
| Khertan_Clone_12 | how can i put a licence on that | 13:20 |
| Khertan_Clone_12 | yeah public domain | 13:20 |
| Superpelican | Khertan_Clone_12:You could read something like http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2010/03/24/a-short-guide-to-open-source-and-similar-licenses/ | 13:20 |
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| Superpelican | Khertan_Clone_12:or http://www.zdnet.com/blog/burnette/howto-pick-an-open-source-license-part-1/130 | 13:20 |
| Khertan_Clone_12 | choosealicence.com | 13:20 |
| Khertan_Clone_12 | :) | 13:20 |
| Superpelican | if you can't decide what licence you want | 13:21 |
| Superpelican | but don't want to spend days reading through all licences on the planet ;) | 13:21 |
| Khertan_Clone_12 | :) | 13:23 |
| Khertan_Clone_12 | Superpelican: mit because public domain is more restrictive depending on country | 13:27 |
| dimitris91 | Yaniel: ok manual ssh works on both the SDK and the emulator | 13:27 |
| Superpelican | Khertan_Clone_12:Then you should edit the page on which you distribute the InfoBanner | 13:28 |
| Superpelican | Khertan_Clone_12:And add that you it's licensed under the MIT licence | 13:28 |
| Superpelican | Khertan_Clone_12:Maybe you should add a link to a copy of the licence or upload a copy to your site etc. | 13:29 |
| Superpelican | I'm not sure if that's necessary | 13:29 |
| Superpelican | but IIRC at least the GPLv3 requires that | 13:29 |
| Khertan_Clone_12 | Superpelican: edit is already done ... | 13:29 |
| Superpelican | so it's probably a good idea | 13:29 |
| Superpelican | :) | 13:29 |
| Khertan_Clone_12 | Superpelican: and link available | 13:29 |
| Superpelican | nice :D | 13:30 |
| Khertan_Clone_12 | Superpelican: http://khertan.net/blog/silica_infobanner | 13:30 |
| Khertan_Clone_12 | and thx for advice | 13:30 |
| Superpelican | Khertan_Clone_12:Looks perfect :) | 13:30 |
| Superpelican | Khertan_Clone_12:np, never forget the legal stuff, otherwise it'll comeback some time later and bite you ;) | 13:31 |
| Khertan_Clone_12 | yep | 13:31 |
| Khertan_Clone_12 | :) | 13:31 |
| Khertan_Clone_12 | i discover that some years ago :) | 13:31 |
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| Khertan_Clone_12 | ouch i catch a nasty bug ... | 13:48 |
| Stskeeps | oh? | 13:48 |
| Khertan_Clone_12 | deleting two notes in ownNotes segfault | 13:48 |
| Khertan_Clone_12 | ... | 13:48 |
| Khertan_Clone_12 | Stskeeps: no no ... not a core bug | 13:48 |
| Khertan_Clone_12 | :) | 13:48 |
| Stskeeps | aw | 13:48 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 13:48 |
| Khertan_Clone_12 | keep calm :) | 13:48 |
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| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:Really don't know how to solve the issue :( | 13:56 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:I've searched on the web | 13:56 |
| Superpelican | but couldn't find anything | 13:56 |
| Superpelican | it's all about Qt Resource files | 13:56 |
| Superpelican | I don't want to compile images into my app binary | 13:56 |
| Superpelican | I think it wouldn't even be legal | 13:57 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:Morpog_'s Clamshell logo is licensed under a Creative Commons licence | 13:57 |
| Superpelican | my app under the GPLv3 | 13:57 |
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| Morpog_ | why shouldn't that be legal? | 14:00 |
| Khertan_Clone_12 | deleting two items in ownNotes ... when the first remorseItem is triggered the apps segfault (that s my fault i didn't check in my code if args are acceptable) ... this happen because the path is undefined | 14:02 |
| Khertan_Clone_12 | .... strange | 14:02 |
| Superpelican | Morpog_:Because the GPLv3 is viral | 14:02 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | Superpelican: viral ? | 14:09 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:Yeah, that's how they call it | 14:10 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :/ | 14:10 |
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| Superpelican | it means that work that's part of what's licensed under the GPLv3 should also be licensed under the GPLv3 | 14:10 |
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| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:Otherwise it's illegal | 14:10 |
| Superpelican | don't exactly know how far this stretches | 14:11 |
| Superpelican | but I don't really care | 14:11 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Superpelican: why GPLv3 ? | 14:11 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | why not BSD, LGPL, no license | 14:11 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | etc | 14:11 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstatin:You mean why I chose it? | 14:11 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:You mean why I chose it? | 14:11 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | yes | 14:12 |
| Superpelican | well | 14:12 |
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| Superpelican | I'd rather not have | 14:12 |
| Superpelican | people use my work for commercial purposes | 14:12 |
| Superpelican | I mean | 14:12 |
| Superpelican | if they want to develop closed source | 14:12 |
| Superpelican | software | 14:12 |
| Superpelican | ok | 14:12 |
| Superpelican | but | 14:12 |
| Superpelican | then they're on their own | 14:13 |
| Superpelican | I'm not going to "help" them | 14:13 |
| Superpelican | of course | 14:13 |
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| Superpelican | BSD/MIT/LGPL have their purposes too | 14:13 |
| Superpelican | but | 14:13 |
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| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:I think the GPLv3 fits my case the best | 14:14 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | why v3 ? | 14:15 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | that is very strong | 14:15 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | why not v2 ? | 14:15 |
| Superpelican | why not v3? | 14:15 |
| Superpelican | I just chose the latest and the greatest | 14:15 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | because it is quite strong (imo) | 14:15 |
| Superpelican | they say | 14:15 |
| Superpelican | GPLV3 has better protection | 14:15 |
| Superpelican | against patents | 14:15 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | well, do you know all the implcations of a v3 compared to a v2 etc | 14:15 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | are you scared of patents ? | 14:16 |
| Superpelican | I don't/and can't afford to be sued | 14:16 |
| Superpelican | by someone | 14:16 |
| Superpelican | because I'm infringing | 14:16 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | who will sue you for doing vectors manipulations ? | 14:16 |
| Superpelican | eh | 14:17 |
| Superpelican | plenty of trolls | 14:17 |
| Superpelican | available | 14:17 |
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| Superpelican | who sued Samsung for creating phones with rounded corners? | 14:17 |
| Superpelican | Or who's trying to sue other companies for the use of "Happy Birthday" | 14:18 |
| Superpelican | it happens | 14:18 |
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| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:But does it really matter? I mean BSD/MIT/LGPL/no licence != CC BY 3.0 attribution unported anyway | 14:19 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Superpelican: but the CC BY 3.0 is related | 14:20 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | like you can mix BSD and GPL | 14:20 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | why can't you mix CC BY 3.0 and GPL | 14:20 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I'm not a lawyer | 14:20 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Superpelican: who will find an interest to sue you | 14:20 |
| Superpelican | I'm not a lawyer either | 14:21 |
| IcyTower_ | Is here anyone in Finland??? | 14:22 |
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| ottulo | o/ | 14:22 |
| Superpelican | IcyTower_:plenty | 14:23 |
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| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:Do you have any suggestions for the image issue? | 14:44 |
| * Sfiet_Konstantin is not a lawyer | 14:45 | |
| * Sfiet_Konstantin is tired as well | 14:45 | |
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| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:Well actually I was referring to the technical part | 14:54 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin: ;) | 14:54 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Superpelican: see the second part | 14:55 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | the second /me | 14:55 |
| Superpelican | :nod: :( | 14:55 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | (that actually implied the 1st part, because I was guessing that you wanted the techlical stuff) | 14:55 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | but maybe you should try | 14:55 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | to find it alone | 14:56 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :) | 14:56 |
| Superpelican | But I can't find it alone :( | 14:56 |
| Superpelican | I've already checked sailfishapplication.pri | 14:56 |
| Superpelican | The web doesn't tell me anything about this | 14:56 |
| Superpelican | as it's mostly Sailfish specific | 14:56 |
| Superpelican | And the web barely has Sailfish specific information | 14:57 |
| Superpelican | hmm | 14:57 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | ,p | 14:57 |
| Superpelican | I'll try | 14:57 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | no | 14:57 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | it is deployment speciic | 14:57 |
| Superpelican | if I can find | 14:57 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | read about qmake and deployument stuff | 14:57 |
| Superpelican | the solution in another open source Sailfish app | 14:58 |
| Khertan_Clone_12 | prepare aspirine ... you ll got serious headache reading qmake doc | 14:58 |
| Khertan_Clone_12 | dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of ownnotes: ownnotes depends on libpython2.6; however: Package libpython2.6 is not installed. <<< STUPID QMAKE !!!! YOU LIE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | 14:58 |
| Superpelican | Khertan_Clone_12: :( | 14:59 |
| Khertan_Clone_12 | THAT S HARMATTAN LIBPYTHON2.6 INSTALLED ! | 14:59 |
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| Superpelican | hmm dealing with qmake doesn't sound very rewarding ^ | 15:01 |
| Superpelican | :( | 15:01 |
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| Superpelican | Khertan_Clone_12:Is this that doc you got a headache from: http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5.0/qtdoc/qmake-manual.html ? | 15:09 |
| Superpelican | it doesn't look too bad | 15:09 |
| Superpelican | at least it has colors :D | 15:09 |
| Superpelican | better than RPM max handbook | 15:09 |
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| Khertan_Clone_12 | Superpelican: i got headache trying to find it | 15:09 |
| Superpelican | trying to find the manual? | 15:09 |
| Superpelican | well | 15:10 |
| Superpelican | it was the second result | 15:10 |
| Superpelican | when searching for "qmake" on http://startpage.com | 15:10 |
| Superpelican | (which is Google-based) | 15:10 |
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| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3182767/mixing-gpl-and-creative-commons-licenses | 15:47 |
| Superpelican | looks like it's legal | 15:47 |
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| Superpelican | only applies to linking code | 15:48 |
| Superpelican | not packaging other stuff with GPL code | 15:48 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | of cause | 15:48 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | but if you embed the image in qrc | 15:48 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | is it still legal ? | 15:48 |
| Superpelican | ... | 15:50 |
| Superpelican | But how am I ever going to find out? | 15:50 |
| Superpelican | I mean | 15:50 |
| Superpelican | it's not like the FSF | 15:51 |
| Superpelican | is going to make a seperate clause | 15:51 |
| Superpelican | for usage of GPL code with some specific | 15:51 |
| Superpelican | software library | 15:51 |
| Superpelican | they'll need to make the licence 1000 times as long | 15:51 |
| Superpelican | to cover all that technology | 15:52 |
| Superpelican | and ways | 15:52 |
| Superpelican | hmm but | 15:52 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:But | 15:52 |
| Superpelican | the StackOverflow page | 15:52 |
| Superpelican | also teaches you | 15:52 |
| Superpelican | that the GPL | 15:52 |
| Superpelican | doesn't restrict what the copyright holder does | 15:53 |
| phako | o.O | 15:53 |
| Superpelican | with his code | 15:53 |
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| Superpelican | so | 15:53 |
| Superpelican | I *could* | 15:53 |
| Superpelican | legally distribute it | 15:53 |
| Superpelican | only | 15:53 |
| Superpelican | other people who would | 15:53 |
| Superpelican | like to use my code | 15:53 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:Wouldn't | 15:53 |
| Superpelican | be able to use Morpog_'s clamshell icon with my code | 15:53 |
| Superpelican | because they're not copyright holders | 15:54 |
| Superpelican | so it doesn't really matter | 15:54 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:"The license dictates terms to the licensees. Not to you, who gives out the license. You have the copyright which lets you do everything with your work. " | 15:54 |
| Superpelican | it's just | 15:56 |
| Superpelican | that I don't like embedding random stuff into my app binary | 15:56 |
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| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:Got my app to show the image | 16:08 |
| Superpelican | it's really simple | 16:08 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:But I doubt it'll work on the Jolla | 16:08 |
| Superpelican | /real hw | 16:08 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:Well I found the image in /opt/sdk/Quick2Clamshell/images | 16:09 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:The app searched for it in /opt/sdk/Quick2Clamshell/usr/share/Quick2Clamshell/images | 16:10 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:So | 16:10 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:I figured out | 16:10 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:/opt/sdk/Quick2Clamshell must be $$DEPLOYMENT_PATH | 16:10 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin: so | 16:10 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin: I edited images.path = $$DEPLOYMENT_PATH/images | 16:11 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Superpelican: nice | 16:11 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin: to | 16:11 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | that's what you have to do :) | 16:11 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | congrats :) | 16:11 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin: $$DEPLOYMENT_PATH/usr/share/Quick2Clamshell/images | 16:11 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:but | 16:11 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:It won't work on real hw probably | 16:11 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:because on real hw | 16:11 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:there probably won't be a /opt/sdk/... | 16:12 |
| Superpelican | dir structure :( | 16:12 |
| Superpelican | but at least I have a huge Clamshell on the About page in the emulator | 16:12 |
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| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:Do you think it will work on real hw? | 16:18 |
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| STiAT | is there any way to install libraries into the sdk of sailfish? trying to port one of my programs which requires libaccounts-qt, installed it in the emulator, but can't seem to find "the proper" way to install it to the sdk | 18:01 |
| STiAT | and ye, my first steps on sailfish here :) | 18:02 |
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| yunta | STiAT: I don't know "the proper way", but you can ssh into emu, and use zypper there. | 18:08 |
| STiAT | yunta: that's what i did for the emulator, but that won't work for building the c++ stuff on my machine, at least i'd guess that building is local | 18:09 |
| yunta | building is done on separate vm | 18:09 |
| STiAT | yunta: okay, then i only need to find that one :) .. will dabble a bit more, thanks for the information | 18:10 |
| yunta | somewhere on the left in qt creator, there is button that shows embedded webpage with build targets installed (and such things). look for target management button. | 18:10 |
| yunta | it will allow you to install libs in build vm | 18:11 |
| yunta | (alternatively, just ssh to build vm and zypper in....) | 18:11 |
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| STiAT | yunta: was another problem, the two vms for some reason interfered, it's compiling now. thanks for the hints | 18:29 |
| STiAT | throwing errors, but compiling :) | 18:29 |
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| yunta | STiAT: afaik they should not interfere. you are supposed to have both running all the time while developing. | 19:23 |
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