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| miksuh | nahka: Yeat, Tweetian is wery goof twitter client. I'm using it on Symbian. It's great that Tweetian will be available on Sailffish too. | 01:37 |
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| miksuh | yeat == yeah | 01:39 |
| miksuh | goof == goof | 01:39 |
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| miksuh | damn typos, well it's 4:40am... | 01:41 |
| miksuh | time to sleep a bit %) | 01:41 |
| miksuh | goof == good | 01:42 |
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| m4g0g | hi | 04:46 |
| m4g0g | I have problem with intallation of new SailfshSDK | 04:46 |
| m4g0g | http://bpaste.net/show/fBZLVDNhHCl9rTLfzh2f/ | 04:47 |
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| ericcai | hello | 06:44 |
| dm8tbr | moo | 06:46 |
| fk_lx | serwus | 06:47 |
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| Khertan | Morning | 07:00 |
| Khertan | while using the sailfish sdk i got a qt5 problem, maybe you can help me : erreur : Python.h: No such file or directory ... and python-devel is installed in mer vm, Python.h is in /usr/include/python2.7 and i use in the .pro QMAKE_CXXFLAGS += $$system(python$${PYTHON_VERSION}-config --includes) ... any idea ? | 07:01 |
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| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:Just copied your query from my N900 with scp | 09:00 |
| Superpelican | <3 N900 | 09:00 |
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| Juice__ | Hi, can everybody else debug their QML applications? | 09:37 |
| Stskeeps | what error do you gt? | 09:37 |
| Stskeeps | +e | 09:37 |
| Juice__ | I get remote debugger plugin not enabled | 09:37 |
| Juice__ | "QML Debugger: Ignoring "-qmljsdebugger=port:10000,block". Remote debugger plugin has not been found." | 09:37 |
| Stskeeps | can you try to install a package on vm? | 09:37 |
| Juice__ | I just try to run it on sailfish emulator | 09:38 |
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| Juice__ | Stskeeps: how do I do that? | 09:38 |
| Stskeeps | zypper install qt5-qtdeclarative-plugin-qmlinspector | 09:38 |
| Stskeeps | as root | 09:38 |
| Juice__ | in the emulator or sdk? | 09:38 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin: Adding CoverPage{} to ApplicationWindow{} leads to the Cover being displayed in my app! :( | 09:40 |
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| Superpelican | Plus creating the pages at app startup violates Jolla's: "only load when needed" ideology :( | 09:40 |
| alci | Hi all | 09:41 |
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| alci | I looking for help to install latest alpha SDK... I get get this error when installing: | 09:41 |
| alci | Error during installation process (org.merproject.mersdk): | 09:41 |
| alci | Error while extracting installer://org.merproject.mersdk/0.0.6-7mersdk.7z: Extraction failed.. | 09:41 |
| alci | This is on Ubuntu 64bit. Known problem ? | 09:42 |
| Juice__ | I installed the qt5-qtdeclarative... package on sdk, no help | 09:43 |
| Juice__ | How do I get root in the emulator? | 09:43 |
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| aknight | Juice__: are you ssh'd in? | 09:43 |
| aknight | su | 09:44 |
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| Juice__ | aknight: no | 09:46 |
| aknight | Juice__: are you at the console then? | 09:47 |
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| Juice__ | aknight: I just have the emulator running | 09:47 |
| Juice__ | I am trying to think the default ssh port for it | 09:47 |
| aknight | Juice__: https://sailfishos.org/develop-faq.html | 09:47 |
| aknight | the ssh command is there | 09:48 |
| Juice__ | nice | 09:48 |
| aknight | and once you are logged in as nemo, you can su to root | 09:48 |
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| Juice__ | yeah, now I can debug. Thanks a lot | 09:50 |
| Juice__ | Maybe this stuff should be there on the FAQ because I think I searched quite hefty for it | 09:50 |
| Juice__ | apparently it is not wiki or anything, maybe I search for contact information | 09:51 |
| Stskeeps | Juice__: yes | 09:52 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: jake9xx: ^ | 09:52 |
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| alci | Ok. I was trying to override an existing installation. Cleaning up things beforehand and reinstalling went fine. | 10:04 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | Superpelican: then don't create it, but encapsulates it well (expose properties functions to make it good) | 10:07 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:I've fixed the problems partially | 10:07 |
| Superpelican | it's a bit difficult to explain | 10:07 |
| Superpelican | but I'll push the changes to Bitbucket | 10:07 |
| Superpelican | so you can have a look | 10:07 |
| kaltsi | Juice__: what do you want to see in the faq? | 10:08 |
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| Juice__ | kaltsi: that zypper install tip | 10:13 |
| kaltsi | Juice__: right.. it's mentioned in here https://sailfishos.org/wiki/SDK_Alpha_Qt5_Known_Issues | 10:13 |
| Juice__ | whoa | 10:13 |
| kaltsi | maybe the faq could have a link to there.. how do you find the faq? :) | 10:14 |
| Morpog_PC | maybe add a big link from FAQ to known issues? | 10:14 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:I pushed the changeset to Bitbucket | 10:14 |
| Juice__ | google, like anyone else | 10:14 |
| Juice__ | I also searched for "remote debugger plugin not installed" and nothing game up | 10:14 |
| Morpog_PC | juice_, i think he asked how you like the FAQ :) | 10:15 |
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| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:Check the main.qml and CoverPage.qml pages | 10:15 |
| kaltsi | no, I asked how can I find the faq by clicking around the site.. I've never seen it before :) | 10:16 |
| aknight | lbt gave me the faq link iirc :) | 10:16 |
| Juice__ | yeah, you can't actually find it by navigating | 10:17 |
| Superpelican | kaltsi: http://sailfishos.org > Develop > Explore SDK > FAQ | 10:17 |
| kaltsi | ahh! | 10:17 |
| kontio | yeah that is really hidden... we should have that more prominent... | 10:17 |
| lbt | kontio: ROFL - you're welcome to edit the raw html of every single page manually to change the menu structure :) | 10:19 |
| kaltsi | I think we could add the link to known issues to the faq | 10:20 |
| fk_lx | some of the stuff is well hidden | 10:21 |
| fk_lx | and you ran into it by chance | 10:22 |
| fk_lx | or someone gives you direct link | 10:22 |
| fk_lx | ;-) | 10:22 |
| aknight | so add a known issue that the faq is hard to find? | 10:23 |
| Morpog_PC | rofl | 10:24 |
| fk_lx | proposal for question in FAQ: | 10:25 |
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| fk_lx | Why is the FAQ so hard to find? | 10:25 |
| fk_lx | :-) | 10:25 |
| kontio | A: so people are forced to go to IRC a make new friends. | 10:26 |
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| kaltsi | hehe :) | 10:28 |
| kaltsi | maybe we could have a big FAQ tab on the Develop page | 10:28 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:No reply yet on the ML about the bug in the Silica Reference and Dialog compoent :( | 10:30 |
| fk_lx | Superpelican: "all our specialist are busy at the moment, please call later" | 10:32 |
| chriadam | Superpelican: didn't matt respond? | 10:32 |
| chriadam | "In your Clamshell dialog, you do not need to explicitly pop() the dialog page in response to the accept action; it is popped by the user's interaction (either a drag or an 'Accept' click), and the accepted signal is generated in response to this event" | 10:32 |
| chriadam | "you should use the onDone() handler to react to the user's actions, leaving the accepted() signal to be handled by users of your dialog" | 10:32 |
| Superpelican | I never got a reply | 10:33 |
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| Superpelican | I'll check my web mail | 10:33 |
| chriadam | hrm, maybe the mailman got held up. anyway, I pasted most of the reply from mvogt. He also said thanks for mentioning the bugs in the docs, and he'll endeavour to fix them asap. | 10:33 |
| Superpelican | chriadam:I've missed the mail | 10:36 |
| Superpelican | never knew it came in | 10:37 |
| Superpelican | chriadam:Don't understand the last part of the mail though | 10:37 |
| Superpelican | Looks like he thinks I'm creating a custom dialog derived from Dialog{} | 10:37 |
| Superpelican | instead of an app | 10:37 |
| chriadam | Yes, I think that's what he's assuming | 10:37 |
| chriadam | Maybe that bit isn't applicable to you | 10:38 |
| Superpelican | and the dialog isn't popped | 10:38 |
| Superpelican | it's still on the pageStack | 10:38 |
| chriadam | eh? | 10:38 |
| chriadam | how did you push it? | 10:38 |
| Superpelican | well the dialog is accepted | 10:38 |
| Superpelican | because the action I defined in onAccepted | 10:38 |
| Superpelican | occurs | 10:39 |
| Superpelican | but the dialog is still on the pageStack | 10:39 |
| Superpelican | the user just switches to a new page | 10:39 |
| chriadam | if you reimplement onDone instead of onAccepted, does it work "properly"? | 10:39 |
| chriadam | just wondering whether the signal gets delivered to you, instead of to the pagestack which should do the popping etc.. (although that sounds crazy, both should be called) | 10:39 |
| Superpelican | chriadam:https://bitbucket.org/Superpelican/quick_clamshell/src/51aca89bc663b00f84ccd806003d9a0e4a073baf/pages/EnterMultiplicationTableDialog.qml?at=default | 10:40 |
| Superpelican | chriadam:http://ubuntuone.com/7MIfo6vKsdqg9PmgSQ9iH4 | 10:41 |
| Superpelican | a video of it | 10:41 |
| Superpelican | it's very laggy though | 10:41 |
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| chriadam | hrm pageStack.push(Qt.resolvedUrl("EnterMultiplicationTableDialog.qml"), {"startPage": startPage}) | 10:42 |
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| chriadam | that... seems fine. I wonder if the fact that you're holding a reference to it, makes a difference? it shouldn't, but perhaps the pageStack won't destroy it in that case (and so it won't get popped) | 10:43 |
| chriadam | but.. I dunno, that would be strange, I think, since the pagestack explicitly owns it | 10:43 |
| chriadam | hrm, not sure. I suggest sending matt another email, asking what's going on there. It should be popped automatically, tbh. | 10:43 |
| Superpelican | chriadam:CoverPage.qml is broken currently, so please ignore it for now ;) | 10:43 |
| chriadam | ah | 10:45 |
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| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:I've fixed all the issues! :D | 11:19 |
| Superpelican | I've updated the Bitbucket repo too | 11:20 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | Superpelican: :) | 11:40 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | awesome :):) | 11:40 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:I'm thinking about removing the cover actions again though | 11:41 |
| Superpelican | they're pretty useless | 11:41 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Superpelican: do what you want :) | 11:41 |
| Superpelican | they don't maximize the app again | 11:41 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | it is your app afterall | 11:41 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Superpelican: they should | 11:41 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | or it is a bug | 11:41 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | (in Sailfish side) | 11:41 |
| Superpelican | :nod: | 11:41 |
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| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:I'll record all the bugs I have | 11:46 |
| Superpelican | ffmpeg screen recording works decently | 11:47 |
| Superpelican | I've written a short script for it | 11:47 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | mind sharing it to the ML ? | 11:48 |
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| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:Oh, turns out Matthew Vogt responded to my mail about the bug in Dialog{} | 12:03 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:But he misunderstood me | 12:03 |
| Superpelican | now he thinks I'm creating a custom dialog instead of an Sailfish app -_- | 12:03 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | Superpelican: make yourself clear. | 12:09 |
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| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:I'm having problems with porting the C++<->QML part of my app to Qt5 | 13:53 |
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| Superpelican | QObject * QMLrootobject = view->rootObject() doesn't work anymore for example | 13:53 |
| Superpelican | it's complaing about that you can't convert a QQuickItem pointer to a QObject pointer | 13:54 |
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| Superpelican | Changed QObject -> QQuickItem | 13:54 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | view.data()->rootObject() ? | 13:54 |
| Superpelican | will try | 13:55 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | or not | 13:55 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | well, maybe not | 13:55 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | you need some includes | 13:55 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | try including <QtQuick/QQuickItem> ? | 13:55 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:Isn't there a guide for QML<->C++ for Qt5? | 13:56 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Superpelican: that's not a guide problem | 13:56 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | this should work | 13:56 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | and a QQuickItem is a QObject | 13:56 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | so the compilter is complaining because it might not understand what is a QQuickItem | 13:57 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | so, my guess is that QQuickItem is forward declared | 13:57 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and you need an include | 13:57 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:But in Qt4 everyone used QObject | 13:57 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Superpelican: compile with the incude | 13:58 |
| Superpelican | I've never seen QDeclarativeItem * rootobject = view.rootObject() | 13:58 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | Superpelican: please comile with the include and see if it work or not | 13:59 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:error: no matching function for call to 'QQuickItem::findChild(const char [10])' | 13:59 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Superpelican: try to manage :) | 14:01 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | at least the error is not the same :) | 14:01 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | (actually, your code was good, but you just did not had the good include) | 14:01 |
| piggz_ | if i put the source for my news reader online, would anyone test it on a device? (the acceptible responses are 1) yes 2) no, but i know someone who will send you a device) | 14:01 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | piggz_: 3) | 14:01 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | piggz_: do you have an owncloud instance ? | 14:01 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | or you can test with emulator can't you ? | 14:02 |
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| piggz_ | Sfiet_Konstantin: of course, thats why i made the app in the first place...to free ymself from google reader :) | 14:02 |
| piggz_ | Sfiet_Konstantin: yes, its working ok in the emulator | 14:02 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | piggz_: an owncloud instance that i can have access O:) ? | 14:02 |
| Morpog_PC | lol | 14:02 |
| Morpog_PC | :-) | 14:02 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I have no owncloud instance, but i might be able to test | 14:02 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | (might) | 14:02 |
| piggz_ | i think i will merge the code back into the main project, it doesnt seem difficult supporting qt4 and 5 in one base | 14:03 |
| piggz_ | Sfiet_Konstantin: lets see how i get on in the next hour, and you can ofcouse have a user account on my owncloud | 14:03 |
| piggz_ | (patiently waiting for windows vm to boot up so i can control my sonos speakers ... all the android tablets are on holiday!!!) | 14:04 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | piggz_: :D | 14:04 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_konstantinhttp://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5.0/qtqml/qtqml-cppintegration-interactqmlfromcpp.html QObject *object = view.rootObject() really should work | 14:05 |
| Superpelican | oops | 14:05 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin: http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5.0/qtqml/qtqml-cppintegration-interactqmlfromcpp.html | 14:05 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Superpelican: it works | 14:05 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | just that your code do not | 14:05 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and you are doing it wrong | 14:05 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | sorry :( | 14:05 |
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| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:http://paste.kde.org/p67df54e6/ Have a look yourself ;) | 14:07 |
| piggz_ | honestly, the sonos speakers are great, but youd think that a product with linux at its core could come with a linux client! | 14:07 |
| Superpelican | :nod: | 14:08 |
| Superpelican | piggz:That's the problem with lots of stuff | 14:09 |
| Superpelican | I heard N9 doesn't work with Linux well either | 14:09 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | Superpelican: what do not works ? | 14:09 |
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| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:error: cannot convert 'QQuickItem*' to 'QObject*' in initialization | 14:10 |
| Superpelican | it keeps complaining about that | 14:10 |
| Superpelican | Also I noticed that I get different errors | 14:10 |
| Superpelican | when QObject *object | 14:10 |
| Superpelican | and QObject * object | 14:10 |
| Superpelican | using | 14:10 |
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| Superpelican | hmmm | 14:11 |
| Superpelican | iirc in Qt4 I also had <dynamic_cast> | 14:11 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Superpelican: well | 14:11 |
| Superpelican | too bad I just deleted the Qt4 version this morning | 14:11 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | actually, please read the doc for findchild :) | 14:11 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | you will find out yourself | 14:11 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:Should you know the "C++ and QML docs by heart"? :P | 14:12 |
| Superpelican | s/should/shouldn't | 14:12 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Superpelican: well, if you don't, read them | 14:12 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | (but for QML docs, you will quickly learn them by heart, there is no much stuff) | 14:12 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | for C++ docs, it is harder, honestly :P | 14:13 |
| Superpelican | ah | 14:13 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin: "QObject *rect = object->findChild<QObject*>("rect");" | 14:13 |
| Superpelican | I knew ->findChild("startPage") looked a bit too clean and short ;) | 14:13 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | yep, it is a templated call | 14:14 |
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| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:I'm sure I'm doing it right this time: error: cannot convert 'QQuickItem*' to 'QObject*' in initialization | 14:16 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | sounds strange | 14:16 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:I'm really sure: http://paste.kde.org/p649918dc/ | 14:17 |
| aknight | QQuickItem's header needs to be included to make that cast work | 14:17 |
| Superpelican | from the Qt docs | 14:17 |
| Superpelican | for Qt5 | 14:17 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | aknight: it is included | 14:18 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and that puzzles me | 14:18 |
| Superpelican | oh | 14:18 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:I forgot to tell you | 14:18 |
| Superpelican | that I changed the QQuickItem to QObject | 14:18 |
| Superpelican | the last 2 times | 14:18 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Superpelican: ... | 14:19 |
| Superpelican | :) | 14:19 |
| Superpelican | it works now though | 14:19 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:Adding the objectName broke main.qml | 14:22 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:file:///opt/sdk/Quick2Clamshell/usr/share/Quick2Clamshell/main.qml:14: ReferenceError: startPage is not defined | 14:22 |
| Superpelican | arggghhh | 14:23 |
| Superpelican | when does this endless stream of errors stop? | 14:23 |
| Superpelican | everything single thing I change causes an error | 14:23 |
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| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:Fixed it | 14:52 |
| Superpelican | I did objectName: startPage instead of objectName: "startPage" | 14:52 |
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| piggz | is there a qmake directive for a sailfish section? | 15:00 |
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| piggz | Sfiet_Konstantin: is there any ifdefs for sailfish (and qmake) ? | 15:19 |
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| m4g0g | hi | 16:15 |
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| piggz | lo | 16:19 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | piggz: there is one iirc | 16:56 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | like checking for pkgconfig with sailfishsilica | 16:56 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and from here you can define an ifdef | 16:56 |
| piggz | Sfiet_Konstantin: i found one that used qmake load to check for sailfishsilicabackground .. but that didnt seem to work, and i couldnt see any .prf files for such a thing in the sdk .. maybe pgkconfig will work | 16:57 |
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| piggz | putting my inkscape skill to the test http://imgur.com/0mronbB | 17:00 |
| Yaniel | piggz: awesome! | 17:01 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | really nice | 17:01 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | maybe make the owncloud logo smaller and emphasize on the fish ? | 17:01 |
| Yaniel | now add a sailfish icon shape as background | 17:01 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | alright, after the mae-<something> | 17:01 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | mee-<something> | 17:01 |
| Yaniel | maybe the "tombstone" shape | 17:01 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | here is the <something>-fish | 17:01 |
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| piggz | Sfiet_Konstantin: the name came from somone on twitter complianing about -fish of siail- names .... so i did it as a joke and it stayed | 17:02 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | there is nothing to complain about it imo | 17:03 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and I thought about doing a blowfish that looks like a sun as a logo | 17:03 |
| piggz | anyway, back to coding, ive spent too much time on the icon! | 17:04 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :D | 17:06 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | piggz: worthj it | 17:06 |
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| piggz | Sfiet_Konstantin: looking thru the sdk pckgonfig files, i cant see anything for silica ... best thing so far is qdeclarative5-boostable.pc .... there is a good chance that is sailfish only? | 17:10 |
| Stskeeps | not sailfish only, it's in mapplauncher | 17:10 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | piggz: interesting ... | 17:11 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | no sailfishsilica thing ? | 17:11 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :/ | 17:11 |
| piggz | not that i can see in /srv/mer/targets/sailfishos..../usr/lib/pkgconfig | 17:12 |
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| Khertan | Hello | 17:19 |
| Khertan | i require some help ... i ll going mad trying to understand a simple problem ... items from my model isn't displayed in my SilicaListView | 17:20 |
| Khertan | and none error | 17:20 |
| piggz | Khertan: im, ive had no problems...did you use qmlregistertype ? | 17:21 |
| Khertan | qmlregistertype ? model is filled in qml | 17:22 |
| piggz | ah, not a c++ model then | 17:22 |
| Khertan | http://pastebin.com/HhxhtGdt <<< firstpage.qml | 17:23 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Khertan: ooc | 17:23 |
| Khertan | http://pastebin.com/g2Fygptf <<< main.qml | 17:23 |
| Khertan | Sfiet_Konstantin: hi | 17:23 |
| Khertan | ooc? | 17:23 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | console.debug(notesModel.length ?) | 17:24 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | out of curiosity | 17:24 |
| Khertan | 1 | 17:24 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | hello Khertan :) | 17:24 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | so there is something | 17:24 |
| Khertan | Sfiet_Konstantin: yep there is something | 17:24 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Khertan: try to just draw a big and ugly rectangle ? | 17:24 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | delegate: Rectangle { width: parent.width; height: 100: color: "red" } ? | 17:25 |
| Khertan | i have even try Label { text : 'test' } | 17:25 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Khertan: I wonder if you have to reset the model when populated | 17:25 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | (like notesView.model = notesModel) | 17:26 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | ever tried to just add dummy entries in the model ? | 17:26 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | using something like JS N | 17:26 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | ? | 17:26 |
| Khertan | oh ... hum... that s not the case in harmattan :) | 17:26 |
| Khertan | will try | 17:26 |
| Khertan | let s see what ugly rectangle do .... | 17:27 |
| Khertan | test is slow | 17:27 |
| Khertan | to run in the vm | 17:27 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | it is rather fast when you only change qml | 17:27 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | but yeah, I have seen faster | 17:27 |
| Khertan | oh that not fast when changing only qml ... the slow part is deploy | 17:28 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Khertan: IMO the slow part is parsing the spec, pro etc file | 17:28 |
| Khertan | lol no ugly rectangle | 17:28 |
| Khertan | let see with a sync() | 17:28 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | hum | 17:29 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | something interesting: | 17:29 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | why a silicaflickable ? | 17:29 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | just use the silicalistview | 17:29 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | (I think that your silicalistview is anchoring to something empty | 17:30 |
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| Khertan | QML ListModel: List sync() can only be called from a WorkerScript | 17:31 |
| Khertan | oh | 17:31 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | Khertan: remove the flickable ? | 17:32 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | you can put pulley in siicalistview | 17:32 |
| Khertan | yep ... don't know why it s here :) | 17:33 |
| Khertan | probably result of my while True: | 17:33 |
| Khertan | try: | 17:33 |
| Khertan | except: | 17:33 |
| Khertan | pass | 17:33 |
| Khertan | methodology :) | 17:33 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :/ | 17:33 |
| Khertan | Sfiet_Konstantin: thx a force de chercher on finit par ne plus rien trouver :p | 17:34 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Khertan: hehe, that's true | 17:34 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and good to see you in the Jolla ship | 17:34 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | hunting for sailfishes | 17:34 |
| Khertan | LOL that s works no | 17:34 |
| Khertan | mouarf ! | 17:34 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Khertan: ?? | 17:35 |
| Khertan | that s work | 17:35 |
| Khertan | why b | 17:35 |
| Khertan | arg ... never let your kid touch a laptop keyboard | 17:35 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | b ? | 17:35 |
| Khertan | key broken :) | 17:35 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :D | 17:35 |
| Khertan | i mean : that's work now | 17:36 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :D | 17:36 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | hihi | 17:36 |
| Khertan | space can trigger alt key, b or v ... * can trigger return and w trigger shift | 17:37 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | hum | 17:37 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | that's nice | 17:37 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | time to change kbd it seem | 17:37 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | s | 17:37 |
| Khertan | and laptop | 17:37 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | ah | 17:38 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | if it is a laptop, just plug an external kbd :) | 17:38 |
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| Khertan | Sfiet_Konstantin: need a bluetooth keyboard as usb is broken ... | 17:39 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Khertan: alright | 17:39 |
| Khertan | and bluetooth chipset didn't work in linux | 17:39 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | time to change laptop | 17:39 |
| Khertan | yep | 17:40 |
| Khertan | :) | 17:40 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :D | 17:40 |
| Khertan | 3 year old... and battery discharging too fast | 17:40 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Khertan: well, I had to change the battery of my LX200 | 17:41 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | because it was holding 15 min | 17:41 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | it had 4 yo | 17:41 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | but close to anything were perfectly working | 17:41 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | (but the CPU was rather old) | 17:41 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | now I upgraded to a LX20...1 ! | 17:41 |
| Khertan | that s a toshiba portege m800 ... too hot, bad trackpad, bad keyboard | 17:41 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Khertan: time to grab Lenovo, I tell you | 17:42 |
| Khertan | Sfiet_Konstantin: yep ... just need the money | 17:42 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | well, it is not the IBM era of unkillable computers | 17:42 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | however the Lenovo Thinkpads are pretty good | 17:42 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | the T series is affordable | 17:42 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Khertan: buy an old X2xx | 17:42 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | 201, 210 etc | 17:42 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | they should be rather inexpensive | 17:43 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and are pretty good | 17:43 |
| Khertan | Sfiet_Konstantin: AMD Fusion E450 ? | 17:46 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Khertan: don't know much about AMD | 17:47 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | but sn't fusion something made for mobility | 17:47 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | (tablets etc) | 17:47 |
| Khertan | Sfiet_Konstantin: X121e model ... i like 11" | 17:47 |
| Khertan | and now the dvd reader is broken too | 17:51 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | haha | 17:51 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | 11 isn't it a bit small ? | 17:52 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I prefer 13' | 17:52 |
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| Khertan | Sfiet_Konstantin: in rer i prefer to have small screen | 17:54 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | Khertan: true | 17:55 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | but 11 is IMO too small | 17:55 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | (just imo) | 17:55 |
| Khertan | yeah indeed ... can't display completely qtcreator dialog you can't see button on the bottom | 17:56 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :D | 17:57 |
| yunta | use emacs, problem solved ;P | 17:58 |
| Khertan | yunta: even the sailfish sdk installer | 17:59 |
| yunta | ow | 17:59 |
| Khertan | yunta: but yes qtcreator is used only for the build/run button | 17:59 |
| Khertan | yunta: else i code in vim | 17:59 |
| Khertan | :) | 17:59 |
| Khertan | and i write qml in qtcreator (but writing qml isn't coding) | 18:00 |
| yunta | ah, you can easily build/run from script I think, if that would help you | 18:00 |
| Khertan | yunta: i ve enought strange problem to add more by not using provided tools :) | 18:00 |
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| yunta | ok | 18:07 |
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| piggz | Sfiet_Konstantin: i think i have: 1 Codebase for 2 Qt versions supporting 3 platforms | 18:17 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | piggz: :) | 18:22 |
| piggz | Sfiet_Konstantin: my .pro file is a bit of a mess tho! ;) | 18:23 |
| piggz | and lets not talk about main.cpp! | 18:23 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :D | 18:24 |
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| Khertan | Sfiet_Konstantin: did u have example of source targetting qt4 harmattan and qt5 ? | 18:58 |
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| Juice__ | hi, can someone please hint how can I extend qt quick canvas element | 19:12 |
| Juice__ | in C++ | 19:12 |
| Khertan | The TextArea type provides a display for multiple lines of editable rich text. but it look like it didn't support richtext | 19:13 |
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| Khertan | or which format is it ? | 19:15 |
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| piggz | Sfiet_Konstantin: id be interested to know if you can build this code https://github.com/owncloud/News-Qt-App | 19:18 |
| piggz | just pushed the sailfish support | 19:18 |
| piggz | it seems to mostly work | 19:18 |
| piggz | just in time for me to go on holiday at 5am tomorrow morning! | 19:18 |
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| Khertan | piggz: if u are interested in a note taking application with ownCloud sync, i'm currently porting KhtNotes | 20:30 |
| Khertan | http://khertan.net/KhtNotes | 20:30 |
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| M4rtinK | Khertan: I'm following your PyOtherSide progress | 20:37 |
| M4rtinK | Khertan: good job ! :) | 20:37 |
| Khertan | M4rtinK: thx | 20:37 |
| Khertan | ownNotes (the KhtNotes clones is already working in harmattan ... i test it a bit more and i ll release it) | 20:38 |
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| Khertan | M4rtinK: i currently discovering Silica components | 20:38 |
| M4rtinK | using PyOther side ? | 20:38 |
| Khertan | M4rtinK: and having bad surprise | 20:38 |
| Khertan | M4rtinK: yep using pyotherside | 20:38 |
| Khertan | M4rtinK: i should name it pyotherotherside ... as thp4 will probably update pyotherside, but use a different way i do it | 20:39 |
| Khertan | :) | 20:39 |
| Khertan | M4rtinK: http://github.com/khertan/ownNotes | 20:39 |
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| M4rtinK | well, we will see :) | 20:39 |
| M4rtinK | I guess you can merge it once he releases his stuff :) | 20:40 |
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| Khertan | M4rtinK: probably | 20:40 |
| M4rtinK | I'll check out ownNotes - example code is what I need at the moment :) | 20:40 |
| Khertan | M4rtinK: but the idea was so interesting that i couldn't wait he release it :) | 20:41 |
| M4rtinK | btw, what was that bad surprise with Silica ? | 20:41 |
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| M4rtinK | yep, same sentiment :) | 20:41 |
| Khertan | M4rtinK: i'm writing mail to the devel mailing list | 20:41 |
| Khertan | M4rtinK: TextArea look like not supporting richtext | 20:41 |
| M4rtinK | yesterday is too late :D | 20:41 |
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| special | Khertan: for input? | 20:42 |
| M4rtinK | could be that it is not yet supported | 20:42 |
| Khertan | M4rtinK: And same problem as in Harmattan in managing textarea and flickable | 20:42 |
| Khertan | special: for input yes | 20:42 |
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| M4rtinK | well, my current plan is just to use the built in Controls, at least initially | 20:42 |
| M4rtinK | due to cross platform compatibility | 20:43 |
| special | Khertan: TextArea is built on QtQuick's TextEdit, it should support the same as that does. | 20:43 |
| Khertan | special: didn't know what QtQuick's TextEdit support, but it couldn't be worse than in Qt4 :p | 20:45 |
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| special | Khertan: I'm not sure of the details for editing, yeah. | 20:46 |
| Khertan | special: hum textedit have a property textFormat: and a enum TextEdit.RichText | 20:47 |
| special | it's able to display basic HTML formatting, but I don't know how well it'll handle editing. | 20:47 |
| Khertan | special: on qtquick1 it was handling well editing | 20:47 |
| special | well, then you can expect at least that much :p | 20:47 |
| Khertan | special: i ve even made a source code editor with it :p | 20:48 |
| Khertan | special: http://khertan.net/static/medias/khtsimpletext_screenshot_4.png | 20:48 |
| special | hm, nice. | 20:48 |
| special | qt 5.1 does actually allow you to get access to the QTextDocument for a TextEdit from C++ code | 20:49 |
| special | which means you can use QSyntaxHighlighter and all of the extensive rich document support QTD has | 20:49 |
| special | but that's quite a bit more elaborate. | 20:49 |
| Khertan | special: oh... this mean i could use QSyntaxHighlighter | 20:49 |
| Khertan | interesting | 20:49 |
| special | http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5.1/qtquick/qml-qtquick2-textedit.html#textDocument-prop | 20:50 |
| Khertan | specially when i will port KhtSimpleText | 20:50 |
| Khertan | :) | 20:50 |
| Khertan | special: file:///opt/sdk/ownNotesForSailfish/usr/share/ownNotesForSailfish/pages/EditPage.qml:25 Cannot assign to non-existent property "textFormat" | 20:51 |
| Khertan | special: so it s didn't herit all TextEdit property | 20:51 |
| special | Khertan: hmph, yeah, it's aliasing some of them | 20:52 |
| special | the technically-private-API workaround is _editor.textFormat | 20:52 |
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| piggz | argh, gotta boot up my windows vb again, jsut to control my speakers! | 20:54 |
| Khertan | special: source of silica components are available ? | 20:56 |
| special | Khertan: not as far as I know, unfortunately. | 20:57 |
| Khertan | special: will be difficult to fork for my own needs so :p | 20:57 |
| Khertan | special: _editor.textformat : Cannot assign to non-existent property "textFormat" | 20:59 |
| Khertan | .... | 20:59 |
| special | you might need to do it imperatively, as in Component.onCompleted: _editor.textFormat = Text.RichText | 20:59 |
| Khertan | the fact that cascade didn't support richtext in their text components was the reason why i didn't want to do apps for bb10 ... | 21:00 |
| Khertan | :) | 21:00 |
| Khertan | i ll try | 21:00 |
| special | we should be aliasing that property, probably. | 21:00 |
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| Khertan | special: any advice on how to use a textarea in a silicaflickable whitout using a scroll mode and a input mode ? | 21:01 |
| special | hm, what do you mean? | 21:02 |
| Khertan | special: when i ve a long textarea i put it in a flickable item, but as textarea take input and focus | 21:03 |
| Khertan | i can't scroll the text | 21:03 |
| Khertan | on qtquick flickable there was a pressDelay property | 21:04 |
| Khertan | if delay was higher the textarea got the input | 21:04 |
| Khertan | else the flickable catch it | 21:05 |
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| special | do you mean scrolling while editing, or scrolling without the area being focused? | 21:05 |
| Khertan | special: both :) | 21:05 |
| special | I don't have any trouble doing either with the expanding text area in component gallery's input page | 21:05 |
| Khertan | special: oh ... maybe that my implementation | 21:06 |
| M4rtinK | Khertan: I've just finished a first pass through the ownNotes source | 21:06 |
| M4rtinK | Khertan: looks fabulous ! :D | 21:06 |
| Khertan | special: youhou! the _editor.textFormat in onCompleted works! thx a lot | 21:07 |
| M4rtinK | even in this state, it would be usable for a modRana & Mieru port | 21:07 |
| M4rtinK | with some hacks though | 21:07 |
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| Khertan | M4rtinK: even in this state it should be usable for everythings i think | 21:07 |
| Khertan | M4rtinK: which hack did you think of ? | 21:08 |
| M4rtinK | Khertan: it is currently basically one way, when not counting running the code in a (Qt) thread | 21:09 |
| M4rtinK | my apps do all threading in Python | 21:09 |
| M4rtinK | so I need to make the QtQuick aware that for example an address search just finished | 21:10 |
| M4rtinK | or offline route lookup, etc. | 21:10 |
| Khertan | M4rtinK: the onMessage is here for that | 21:10 |
| Khertan | with threadedCall | 21:10 |
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| Khertan | M4rtinK: one problem is that i lock the GIL so only one threadedCall is executed at the same time | 21:12 |
| M4rtinK | well, sure, I could just run a blocking version of the search with threadedCall | 21:12 |
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| Khertan | M4rtinK: if you have better idea or patch your welcome ;) | 21:12 |
| M4rtinK | Khertan: well, the problem is I'm not really that fond of C++ :) | 21:13 |
| Khertan | M4rtinK: I was using a python thread for the sync of KhtNotes ... in ownNotes i didn't thread it, but i use it with threadedCall | 21:13 |
| M4rtinK | I've done some simple modifications to the QtC C++ code to get rotation work on BB10 and Android | 21:13 |
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| M4rtinK | but that qpython C++ looks seriously crazy in comparison :) | 21:14 |
| Khertan | M4rtinK: i wasn't too ...that why i made that modification to PyOtherSide ... to avoid doing my apps in c++ | 21:14 |
| Khertan | M4rtinK: you didn't know how segfault i ve made during the exploration of GIL | 21:14 |
| Khertan | python has a silly capi | 21:15 |
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| M4rtinK | I think some way will be needed to just kinda start a "Python thread", that can bot react to signals from QML and trigger signals in QML | 21:17 |
| Khertan | special: source of components gallery is available somewhere? | 21:17 |
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| M4rtinK | something like threadedCall that can send multiple onMessage signals | 21:18 |
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| Khertan | M4rtinK: hum ... yep and not just on return | 21:19 |
| M4rtinK | Khertan: yeah, and you can send it events | 21:19 |
| Khertan | so this mean exposing a c extension to python interpreter | 21:19 |
| special | Khertan: hmm, is it in the SDK examples or something? | 21:19 |
| M4rtinK | Khertan: yeah, that would be that way I think | 21:20 |
| special | Khertan: anyway, it's just a SilicaFlickable { contentHeight: column.height; Column { ... TextArea { } } }. TextArea will size itself with implicitHeight as long as you don't set height | 21:20 |
| special | Khertan: contentHeight on the flickable is important | 21:20 |
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| M4rtinK | any it should communicate asynchronously - just passing data in queues or something similar | 21:20 |
| Khertan | special: lol indeed it s in the example ;) | 21:21 |
| Khertan | special: that's what i do ... with contentHeight: childrenRect.height | 21:21 |
| special | avoid childrenRect | 21:21 |
| special | or if you use it, you need to do contentItem.childrenRect.height | 21:21 |
| M4rtinK | this would enable stuff like telling the Python backend: "fetch me these 30 images", backend launches a 10 thread pool, fetches the data and sends a message once done | 21:22 |
| Khertan | special: oh ... | 21:22 |
| Khertan | this explain that :) | 21:22 |
| Khertan | thx | 21:22 |
| Khertan | M4rtinK: yep but should be complicated to implement | 21:22 |
| Khertan | M4rtinK: extending python in a embedded python... | 21:23 |
| Khertan | ;p | 21:23 |
| M4rtinK | Khertan: it is a challenge :) | 21:23 |
| Khertan | M4rtinK: yep... | 21:23 |
| M4rtinK | Khertan: while the current implementation covers most of the ground needed, I think something like that needs to be done eventually :) | 21:26 |
| M4rtinK | Khertan: worst case I'll have to learn some C/C++ :D | 21:26 |
| M4rtinK | to make it happen :) | 21:26 |
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| Khertan | M4rtinK: i ll try to find some time this weekend to do it | 21:26 |
| Khertan | M4rtinK: will be busy next days | 21:27 |
| M4rtinK | Khertan: BTW, the other stuff missing that is quite critical for my use cases is image loading | 21:27 |
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| M4rtinK | Khertan: while some horrible hack like passing path to temporary files can be probably used as a workaround | 21:28 |
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| M4rtinK | Khertan: being able to pass file objects with images to the QML context will be really handy | 21:29 |
| Khertan | M4rtinK: it s not horrible... that s a nuclear strike | 21:29 |
| M4rtinK | Khertan: but doable with current state o POS :) | 21:29 |
| M4rtinK | two Python calls - first returns the path | 21:30 |
| Khertan | M4rtinK: and the neutrino version : encoding your image in b64 and decoding it in qml | 21:30 |
| M4rtinK | once the image finishes loading, you do a "image loaded" call, and that's it, it can be removed | 21:30 |
| Khertan | what is the type of the image ? | 21:30 |
| Khertan | pil...qt | 21:31 |
| Khertan | that mean import this libs | 21:31 |
| M4rtinK | Khertan: well, I have a localhost tileserver for passing images from Python to QML :) | 21:31 |
| M4rtinK | in modRana | 21:31 |
| Khertan | M4rtinK: you can also create an http server and access it in qml | 21:31 |
| M4rtinK | not used at the moment once I got ImageProvider working acceptably | 21:31 |
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| M4rtinK | Khertan: that's what I've done when I was having some issues with image providers :) | 21:32 |
| M4rtinK | Khertan: would certainly be less hacky than using temporary files | 21:33 |
| M4rtinK | Khertan: but not sure how it would interact with GIL | 21:33 |
| M4rtinK | Khertan: regarding the image type | 21:34 |
| M4rtinK | I think just making a simple ImageProvider in C++ accessible as Python extension will work | 21:35 |
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| Khertan | M4rtinK: or use a native python type | 21:36 |
| M4rtinK | now when I think about it, it might be a bit more complicated :D | 21:36 |
| Khertan | M4rtinK: like bitarry | 21:36 |
| M4rtinK | Khertan: how do you mean it ? | 21:36 |
| M4rtinK | well, it could "consume" file objects and convert them internally | 21:37 |
| Khertan | an image is just a pack of bits | 21:37 |
| M4rtinK | well, sure | 21:37 |
| M4rtinK | but you have to somehow get them displayed on the Image element | 21:38 |
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| M4rtinK | at least in Qt4, the onyl way was to have them: on filesystem, on network or on a image provider URI | 21:38 |
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| M4rtinK | *only | 21:38 |
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| M4rtinK | if it was just accepting the content of js variables, it would be easier | 21:39 |
| Khertan | M4rtinK: you could not use a QImage? | 21:39 |
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| M4rtinK | Khertan: how ? | 21:43 |
| Khertan | M4rtinK: indeed even in qt5 you can't | 21:44 |
| Khertan | M4rtinK: that was a question, never tryed | 21:44 |
| Khertan | :) | 21:44 |
| M4rtinK | Khertan: I'm checking the docs at the moment | 21:44 |
| Khertan | M4rtinK: i was checking the doc | 21:44 |
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| Khertan | i don't think they add http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5.0/qtquick/qquickimageprovider.html just for fun | 21:44 |
| M4rtinK | Khertan: I think I remember some hacks for image loading in early QtQuick bot nothing possible at the moment | 21:45 |
| Khertan | look like i got some work for the next release of pyotherotherside | 21:45 |
| Khertan | :) | 21:45 |
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| Khertan | special: look like the most difficult part for implementing ownNotes is now working ... thx a lot, i just have to make qml binding for the other part of the apps. | 21:47 |
| special | you're welcome :) | 21:48 |
| M4rtinK | Khertan: just checked the Qt 5 image provider | 21:48 |
| M4rtinK | Khertan: looks like you can finally set that an image should not be cached | 21:48 |
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| M4rtinK | Khertan: you don't have to mutilate the URIs to reload an image ! :D | 21:49 |
| M4rtinK | Khertan: but still no progress support when loading images from image provider | 21:49 |
| Khertan | :) | 21:50 |
| Khertan | look like it s time to go sleeping | 21:50 |
| M4rtinK | well, now how to fit it all together :D | 21:50 |
| M4rtinK | good point ! :) | 21:50 |
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| Khertan | M4rtinK: i ll look at the signal bothway in pyotherside this weekend | 21:51 |
| Khertan | good night all | 21:51 |
| M4rtinK | BTW, looking forward to testing your PyOtherSide improvements :) | 21:51 |
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| M4rtinK | Khertan: yeah, I think thats the most important stuff at the moment | 21:51 |
| M4rtinK | the rest can be worked around somehow | 21:52 |
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