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| ericcc_ | hi | 08:03 |
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| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:I still have to fix the dialog problem | 08:58 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:Your idea was to let the dialog send a signal to the questionPage and then let the questionPage close the dialog, right? | 09:00 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:This doesn't work either, it freezes the transition from the dialog to the questionPage: http://paste.kde.org/p63fb01ba/ | 09:07 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Superpelican: hum | 09:09 |
| Superpelican | Yes, I know it's probably a very dirty hack | 09:09 |
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| ericcc | dialog have problem? | 09:20 |
| Superpelican | ericcc:Yes, the dialog remains on the pagestack after accepting it | 09:21 |
| Superpelican | where it should be popped | 09:21 |
| Superpelican | ericcc:The problem can be seen here: http://ubuntuone.com/7MIfo6vKsdqg9PmgSQ9iH4 | 09:22 |
| faenil | to Jollaians: are you aware that playing with SSU can screw the setup? changing to devel results in pointing to 404 repos | 09:27 |
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| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:ping | 09:33 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Superpelican: pong | 09:33 |
| Superpelican | :) | 09:33 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:I've tried your idea | 09:34 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | imo, try | 09:34 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | yeah | 09:34 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | hum | 09:34 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:Doesn't work | 09:34 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:it doesn't recognize the signal | 09:34 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Superpelican: worth sending in ML | 09:34 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | ping devs | 09:34 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:Is it a bug? | 09:34 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | not sure | 09:34 |
| Superpelican | ok | 09:35 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | but the behaviour with dialog in two pages is (imo) a bug | 09:35 |
| Culain | hello guys :) | 09:35 |
| Superpelican | I still have to report the bug on the docs too | 09:35 |
| faenil | can anyone do "ssu repos" for me on their sailfish emu? | 09:40 |
| Morpog_ | sure | 09:40 |
| faenil | lbt, w00t what about an SSU disclaimer? :P | 09:41 |
| Morpog_ | http://pastie.org/8205014 | 09:41 |
| faenil | Morpog_, what does "release" say when doing ssu status? | 09:42 |
| faenil | Morpog_, thanks anyway ;) | 09:42 |
| faenil | Morpog_, also "ssu fl" | 09:42 |
| Morpog_ | Release: 0.20130731 | 09:42 |
| faenil | flavour? | 09:43 |
| lbt | faenil: yeah ssu is ... fun | 09:43 |
| faenil | lbt, lol | 09:43 |
| Morpog_ | Device flavour is currently: release | 09:44 |
| faenil | oh damn! now I have nemo repos | 09:44 |
| faenil | lbt, is there a way to reset to jolla repos? | 09:44 |
| lbt | don't expect 'obvious' things ... eg you may see %(arch) in some template - and you may see arch=VALUE in some config file ... and sometimes the resulting file has VALUE where %(arch) used to be .... but it's just messin' with your head ... | 09:45 |
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| lbt | faenil: ssu re 0.20130731 ; ssu ur | 09:46 |
| lbt | if you changed it that way | 09:46 |
| faenil | lbt, not helping | 09:46 |
| lbt | in general ssu has a list of repos | 09:46 |
| faenil | well I played with it a bit | 09:46 |
| faenil | changed to rnd, then back to release | 09:47 |
| faenil | then devel, bla bl abla | 09:47 |
| lbt | then ... the command "ssu ur" says "now tell zypper about them" | 09:47 |
| faenil | yeah I'm aware of ur :) | 09:47 |
| lbt | sorry - bad timing too - my SDK is off and I'm about to pop out ... I'll be back later - ping me | 09:48 |
| faenil | lbt, np, my fault, was on wrong terminal window, your command did it ;) | 09:48 |
| ericcc | my mer sdk sometime will auto stop | 09:49 |
| faenil | so, well, don't change repos people :) | 09:50 |
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| faenil | lbt, still, a disclaimer could avoid troubles for tinkerers :D | 09:51 |
| faenil | Morpog_, thanks ;) | 09:52 |
| Morpog_ | np | 09:52 |
| ericcc | hey guys how can setting the sdk to let my sdk connnet internet? | 10:00 |
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| Superpelican | ericcc:Eh, why do you need to connect your sdk to the internet? | 10:01 |
| Morpog_ | sdk or emulator? | 10:02 |
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| ericcc | sailfish emulator | 10:08 |
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| Morpog_ | should work already | 10:08 |
| Morpog_ | using linux? | 10:08 |
| ericcc | use win | 10:09 |
| Morpog_ | hmmm | 10:09 |
| ericcc | i have app it need connnet internet | 10:09 |
| Morpog_ | can you ping websites? | 10:09 |
| ericcc | win7.... | 10:09 |
| Morpog_ | in emulator | 10:09 |
| ericcc | ping? how use? | 10:09 |
| Morpog_ | right ctrl + F2 | 10:10 |
| Morpog_ | (or ssh) | 10:10 |
| rollersmb | hey all. hope this is the right place for this question.. is there any way to run sailfish sdk without virtualbox? on win 8 vbox is very buggy, as in, bsod buggy. could we use hyperv? | 10:10 |
| Morpog_ | don't think so rollersmb | 10:10 |
| Stskeeps | rollersmb: we use specific box features such as custom screen resolution and shared folders | 10:11 |
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| ericcc | morpog thank you | 10:12 |
| rollersmb | :( Ok. guess its time to install ubuntu on an old laptop :P | 10:13 |
| Stskeeps | rollersmb: if it doesn't work under w8, please report to mailing list | 10:13 |
| rollersmb | there are already several issues on virtualbox issue tracker (11712, 11464), so hopefully they're already looking into it. bsod and forced restore occured to me too after installing vbox, so just not going to risk it again on my main laptop. | 10:16 |
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| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:Mail sent to ML | 10:43 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Superpelican: cool | 10:43 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:Reported both the error in the Silica Reference and the possible Dialog bug | 10:43 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:In the mean time I'll continue development on other parts of my app and just ignore the sandwiched Dialog | 10:45 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | ok | 10:47 |
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| ericcc | host+c的效果太模糊了 | 10:52 |
| ericcc | 我想直接在参数里面改 | 10:53 |
| ericcc | 您改过不 | 10:53 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | ericcc: wrong window ! | 10:54 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:How would you get an icon for your app? | 10:58 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Superpelican: *.desktop | 10:58 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | field Icon= | 10:58 |
| Superpelican | :nod: | 10:58 |
| Superpelican | but I mean the actual icon | 10:58 |
| Superpelican | Are you going to create your own? | 10:58 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | search in /usr/share/theme/jolla-ambiant/icons | 10:58 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | yes, I'm gonna | 10:58 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I wanted a fish that is ina sun | 10:59 |
| Superpelican | so you're going to draw your own fish? | 10:59 |
| Superpelican | I really suck at drawing | 10:59 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:http://fritzing.org/media/fritzing-repo/users/s/superpelican/images/Superpelican logo.jpg | 10:59 |
| Superpelican | home drawn :( | 10:59 |
| Superpelican | with the GIMP | 10:59 |
| Superpelican | it looks very amateurish | 11:00 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Superpelican: "The requested URL /media/fritzing-repo/users/s/superpelican/images/Superpelican was not found on this server." | 11:00 |
| Superpelican | ah | 11:00 |
| Superpelican | add "logo.jpg" to the url | 11:00 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | ah | 11:01 |
| Superpelican | the link's broken | 11:01 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | yep | 11:01 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | cute :) | 11:01 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I like it | 11:01 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | amateurish, but cute | 11:01 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | Superpelican: can't be worse than www.infoslinux.abdev.fr/img/articles/logo_gcc2.png | 11:01 |
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| Superpelican | hmm, personally I think the GNU's better | 11:02 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Superpelican: Qt logo is horrible as well | 11:03 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | don't show the futuristic, fast and beautiful aspect of Qt | 11:03 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Qt logo is too ... basic | 11:03 |
| Superpelican | Really? | 11:03 |
| Superpelican | it's basic | 11:03 |
| Superpelican | but unless you zoom in too much | 11:03 |
| Superpelican | I think it looks pretty decent | 11:04 |
| Superpelican | I should really draw a new superpelican | 11:04 |
| spider-mario | what do you think of the old one? | 11:04 |
| Superpelican | a less amateurish one | 11:04 |
| spider-mario | where the Q and the T were merged | 11:04 |
| Superpelican | a the circle knive thing? | 11:04 |
| Superpelican | like in the Razor-Qt logo? | 11:04 |
| Superpelican | lol, http://mynokiablog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/qt-logo.jpg | 11:05 |
| spider-mario | a little like that | 11:05 |
| spider-mario | this: https://vision.eng.shu.ac.uk/mmvl/viewfinder/30px_qt_logo.png | 11:05 |
| Superpelican | http://ext4.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/rqt.png | 11:05 |
| Superpelican | ah that | 11:05 |
| Superpelican | I've seen that one once | 11:05 |
| Superpelican | Qt3 logo, isn't it? | 11:06 |
| spider-mario | yes | 11:06 |
| Superpelican | hmm, maybe I should draw a Clamshell first | 11:06 |
| Superpelican | I have the "The souce is open" badge from Jolla as temporary replacement anyway | 11:07 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I prefer thje old one :) | 11:08 |
| Superpelican | the Superpelican? | 11:08 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | old Qt logo | 11:08 |
| Superpelican | ah | 11:08 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | ooooh, razor Qt is a pizza knife :O ? | 11:08 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I thought it was like a sword with a power glow | 11:08 |
| Superpelican | yes | 11:08 |
| Superpelican | lol | 11:09 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | it is a pizza knife :O :( | 11:09 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :(:( | 11:09 |
| Superpelican | it's both | 11:09 |
| Superpelican | a Qt pizza knife | 11:09 |
| Superpelican | look closer :) | 11:09 |
| Morpog_ | Sfiet_Konstantin, how was the command again to kill a process as root user on N9? | 11:09 |
| Superpelican | killall maybe? | 11:09 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Morpog_: dunno | 11:09 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | devel-su + kill ? | 11:09 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :D | 11:09 |
| Morpog_ | I get permission denies when i try as user and killall | 11:09 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Morpog_: you need devel-su | 11:09 |
| Morpog_ | I get also permission denied when I try kill as root | 11:09 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Morpog_: what are you trying to kill ? | 11:10 |
| Morpog_ | harmattan-power-menu | 11:10 |
| Morpog_ | I cannot uninstall it while it runs. Thats why I try to kill it. | 11:10 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Morpog_: use the develsh ? | 11:11 |
| Morpog_ | to uninstall or to kill? | 11:11 |
| Superpelican | seriously | 11:12 |
| Superpelican | I can barely find actual clamshell pictures | 11:13 |
| Morpog_ | wtf, now it worked as user :( | 11:13 |
| Superpelican | only huge "clamshell buckets" | 11:13 |
| Superpelican | and old Apple powerbook g3s | 11:13 |
| Superpelican | nicknamed "Clamshell" | 11:13 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :D | 11:13 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | Morpog_: ... | 11:14 |
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| Superpelican | http://longreachhighreach.com/images/cyclamshell03a.jpg | 11:14 |
| Superpelican | http://www.jericoconcretecutting.com/images/equip/clamshell.jpg | 11:14 |
| Morpog_ | damn, uninstaller still tells me that it still runs and thus it won't uninstall it :( | 11:14 |
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| Superpelican | http://media.gdgt.com/img/product/9/6y0/apple-ibook-g3-clamshell-bv5-460.jpg | 11:15 |
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| Morpog_ | aah, it got restarted with a new PID :( | 11:15 |
| Superpelican | ah "clamshell sea" is more successfull | 11:15 |
| Superpelican | Morpog_:That usually happens | 11:15 |
| Superpelican | when you kill that kind of processes | 11:16 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | Morpog_: is it run as a daemon ? | 11:16 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | kill it many times | 11:16 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | IIRC there is a limit of how much times it got restarted | 11:16 |
| Morpog_ | how in hell am I supposed to uninstall this thing then? :) | 11:16 |
| Morpog_ | ah ok, i try | 11:16 |
| Superpelican | ah, this is a nice candidate: http://i.istockimg.com/file_thumbview_approve/12207552/2/stock-photo-12207552-clam-shell-sea-and-sand.jpg | 11:16 |
| Superpelican | a drawing aid :) | 11:17 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | ah :) | 11:17 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | beware of copyrights | 11:17 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | but if you plan to draw on it it do not apply :P | 11:17 |
| Superpelican | I'm not even going to draw on it | 11:17 |
| Superpelican | just as inspiration | 11:17 |
| Superpelican | a rough sketch | 11:17 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:Do you think 400*400 is large enough? | 11:18 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Superpelican: it is huge | 11:19 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | for an ... icon | 11:19 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | that is usually <128 | 11:19 |
| Superpelican | yeah but you can always scale it down | 11:19 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | yep | 11:19 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | 400 imo is ok | 11:19 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Morpog_: what do you think of ^ | 11:19 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:I'm also gonna use it for the Cover | 11:19 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Superpelican: don't hesitate to ping other people out there | 11:19 |
| Superpelican | ok | 11:20 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I'm maybe good at Qt / QML, but I'm not a graphic guy :D | 11:20 |
| Superpelican | me neither | 11:20 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Morpog_ drawn some good icons for CuteFox, so he might be the one to ping :) | 11:20 |
| Morpog_ | best would be to go for SVG | 11:20 |
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| Morpog_ | and 256x256 as base size | 11:21 |
| Superpelican | Morpog_:http://abload.de/img/cutefoxnxcpp.png ? | 11:21 |
| Morpog_ | when going for pixel graphics I would start at 512x512 and then scale down for smaller sizes | 11:21 |
| Superpelican | :nod: | 11:22 |
| Superpelican | well then I'll choose SVG | 11:22 |
| Morpog_ | yep, thats made by me in SVG (my first SVG icon) | 11:22 |
| Superpelican | Morpog_:Anything to keep in mind when drawing in SVG? | 11:23 |
| Superpelican | Is it any different from an "artist" PoV? | 11:23 |
| Superpelican | (I'm not an artist) | 11:23 |
| Morpog_ | don't draw too fine details, as it will be gone when scaling down for smaller sizes | 11:23 |
| Superpelican | Morpog_:Any comments: http://fritzing.org/media/fritzing-repo/users/s/superpelican/images/Superpelican logo.jpg | 11:25 |
| Superpelican | oh add "logo.jpg" to the url when you click the link | 11:25 |
| Superpelican | otherwise it won't work | 11:25 |
| Morpog_ | still doesn't work | 11:26 |
| Morpog_ | http://fritzing.org/media/fritzing-repo/users/s/superpelican/images/Superpelicanlogo.jpg | 11:26 |
| Superpelican | eh | 11:26 |
| Superpelican | give me a sec | 11:26 |
| Superpelican | I'll upload a new one | 11:26 |
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| Superpelican | Morpog_:http://ubuntuone.com/3TCt1tRqOCCJ0AiK4ru10z | 11:29 |
| Superpelican | Made with the GIMP | 11:29 |
| Superpelican | note:I didn't draw the NEON text myself | 11:29 |
| Superpelican | that's just a GIMP script thingy | 11:29 |
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| Superpelican | too bad my Wacom tablet broke a few years ago :( | 11:30 |
| Superpelican | would've been very handy | 11:31 |
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| Morpog_ | Superpelican, better use inkscape for SVG | 11:33 |
| Superpelican | why | 11:33 |
| Superpelican | ? | 11:33 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | Superpelican: because it is a tool designed to draw svgs | 11:34 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and it is a nice tool | 11:34 |
| * Sfiet_Konstantin <3 inkscape | 11:34 | |
| Superpelican | ok | 11:34 |
| Morpog_ | gimp is for pixel graphics | 11:34 |
| * Superpelican is downloading inkscape | 11:34 | |
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| Superpelican | (zypper in inkscape) | 11:35 |
| Morpog_ | will take you some time to learn it when you are used to pixel graphics programs | 11:35 |
| Superpelican | :( | 11:35 |
| Superpelican | I liked GIMP | 11:35 |
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| Morpog_ | Is that a pelican wearing a superman cape? | 11:36 |
| Superpelican | eh yes | 11:36 |
| Morpog_ | lol :) | 11:36 |
| Superpelican | :) | 11:36 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Morpog_: it is Superpelican | 11:36 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :) | 11:36 |
| Superpelican | :) | 11:36 |
| Superpelican | Want to the know how it all started? | 11:36 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | :D | 11:37 |
| Superpelican | Well | 11:37 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | sounds like a nice history | 11:37 |
| Superpelican | I wanted to create an email account | 11:37 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | let's tell the stories of uou nics | 11:37 |
| Superpelican | but had no idea how what nick to use for it | 11:37 |
| Superpelican | so I picked a random animal | 11:37 |
| Superpelican | a pelican | 11:37 |
| Superpelican | there nice | 11:38 |
| Superpelican | s/there/they're | 11:38 |
| Superpelican | but that was a Hotmail account | 11:38 |
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| Superpelican | and I wanted to move to Gmail | 11:38 |
| Superpelican | so I had to create a new email account :) | 11:38 |
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| Superpelican | I decided to add the word "super" | 11:38 |
| Superpelican | to it | 11:38 |
| Superpelican | don't ask me why | 11:38 |
| Superpelican | then it became "superpelican12@gmail.com" | 11:39 |
| Superpelican | no, I'm not afraid to publicize my email address | 11:39 |
| Superpelican | I closed the account a while ago ;) | 11:39 |
| Superpelican | so spammers | 11:39 |
| Superpelican | have fun | 11:39 |
| Superpelican | well | 11:39 |
| Superpelican | then I wanted to create a weblog | 11:39 |
| Superpelican | but I needed a nick | 11:39 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :D | 11:39 |
| Superpelican | so I thought | 11:39 |
| Superpelican | hmmm | 11:40 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | superpelican's blog ! | 11:40 |
| Superpelican | what should I choose | 11:40 |
| Superpelican | and then I thought | 11:40 |
| Superpelican | let's stop wasting time | 11:40 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | idid you created your email when you were 12 ? :D | 11:40 |
| Superpelican | and I just chose my email address | 11:40 |
| Superpelican | as name | 11:41 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :) | 11:41 |
| Superpelican | and I became a member of more and more sites | 11:41 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | easy | 11:41 |
| Superpelican | and chose for consticency | 11:41 |
| Superpelican | or however you spell it | 11:41 |
| Superpelican | and used the name Superpelican everywhere | 11:41 |
| Superpelican | but I needed a nick logo | 11:42 |
| Superpelican | so... | 11:42 |
| Superpelican | I fired up GIMP | 11:42 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :) | 11:42 |
| Morpog_ | bbl need to eat | 11:42 |
| Superpelican | ok | 11:42 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Morpog_: see ya | 11:42 |
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| Superpelican | hey | 11:45 |
| Superpelican | inkscape is a lot like LO draw | 11:45 |
| Superpelican | that's nice | 11:46 |
| * Superpelican <3 too | 11:46 | |
| * Superpelican Superpelican <3 inkscape too | 11:46 | |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:But why is the Inkscape canvas not square? | 11:50 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | Superpelican: you can choose the size of the canevas | 11:52 |
| Superpelican | where? | 11:52 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | file > something | 11:54 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | search :P | 11:54 |
| Superpelican | ok | 11:55 |
| Superpelican | ah file > document properties | 11:56 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:I've made it 512*512 like Morpog_ suggested | 11:57 |
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| Morpog_ | yep, set the canvas to your base image size | 12:00 |
| Morpog_ | for example 256x256 | 12:00 |
| Morpog_ | or 512x512 | 12:00 |
| Morpog_ | powers by 2 size is in my brain since I worked on skins/textures for a UT2004 Mod :) | 12:01 |
| Morpog_ | made me shudder when i noticed harmattan icons where 80x80 | 12:01 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | Morpog_: :D | 12:02 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | 80x80 is strange (no pwoer of 2) | 12:02 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | but enough | 12:02 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | (IMO) | 12:02 |
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| Morpog_ | sure | 12:06 |
| Morpog_ | I noticed in Sailfish emulator, they are now 90x90 :) | 12:06 |
| Morpog_ | would have prefered 96x96 :) | 12:07 |
| Superpelican | How do you change the color of the pen in Inkscape? | 12:07 |
| Superpelican | It keeps being black | 12:07 |
| Superpelican | It doesn't matter if I choose "Set stroke" or "Set fill" | 12:08 |
| Superpelican | It doesn't affect the pen | 12:08 |
| Superpelican | only the calligraphic pen | 12:08 |
| Morpog_ | look on top toolbar | 12:08 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | Superpelican: right click on the color | 12:10 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | select contour | 12:10 |
| Superpelican | ah | 12:11 |
| Superpelican | I've discovered it | 12:11 |
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| Superpelican | the bottom toolbar | 12:11 |
| Morpog | no, not there | 12:12 |
| Morpog | shift+ctrl+f | 12:12 |
| Superpelican | And then click on the Stroke color | 12:12 |
| Superpelican | Morpog:But it works | 12:12 |
| Superpelican | I can now change the pen color | 12:12 |
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| Morpog | yes, when you click the stroke color first | 12:12 |
| Superpelican | ah | 12:13 |
| Superpelican | so you draw first | 12:13 |
| Superpelican | and then select the color | 12:13 |
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| Morpog_ | Superpelican, | 12:13 |
| Morpog_ | shift+ctrl+f | 12:13 |
| Morpog_ | contour color (or how they call it in english) | 12:13 |
| Superpelican | yes | 12:13 |
| Superpelican | but you have to click the stroke color rectangle first | 12:14 |
| Superpelican | in the bottom toolbar | 12:14 |
| Superpelican | otherwise it'll say "No objects" | 12:14 |
| Superpelican | and you can't select a color | 12:14 |
| Morpog | ah works ok too | 12:15 |
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| Morpog | i always used the right menu :) | 12:15 |
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| Superpelican | it's useless, I can't draw :( | 12:18 |
| Superpelican | the clamshell looks like a mushroom | 12:18 |
| Superpelican | and a very ugly one too | 12:19 |
| Superpelican | I can't draw with a mouse | 12:21 |
| Superpelican | hmm | 12:24 |
| Superpelican | maybe I can use some alternate tools | 12:24 |
| Superpelican | like bezier curve mode | 12:25 |
| Morpog | you can use paths | 12:25 |
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| ericcc | hi fanweijie | 12:25 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | ericcc: who is fanwenjie ? | 12:28 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | sounds like another chinese :) | 12:28 |
| ericcc | yep others qt programer | 12:28 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | cool | 12:28 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | that's awesome | 12:28 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | china people in #SailfishOS \o/ | 12:29 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | cybette: ^ | 12:29 |
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| Superpelican | Morpog:Can you rotate an object a little bit? | 12:35 |
| Superpelican | a few degrees | 12:35 |
| Morpog | yes | 12:36 |
| Morpog | click in it with select tool | 12:36 |
| Morpog | then click again | 12:36 |
| Morpog | notice the rotation symbols | 12:36 |
| Superpelican | thanks awesome | 12:36 |
| Superpelican | inkscape is a lot like LO Draw | 12:36 |
| Superpelican | which I've used quite a few times | 12:36 |
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| Superpelican | hmm | 12:38 |
| fanwenjie | Hello ,I'm fanwenjie ,developer of sailfishos | 12:38 |
| Superpelican | I think my bezier drawed base form is pretty decent | 12:38 |
| fanwenjie | https://github.com/fan-wenjie/FoiMarket | 12:38 |
| fanwenjie | An appmarket on sailfishos | 12:38 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | hello fanwenjie, wanna present yourself ? | 12:38 |
| fanwenjie | Maybe | 12:39 |
| fanwenjie | but I face some problem | 12:39 |
| fanwenjie | so I need help | 12:40 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | fanwenjie: na | 12:41 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | first, present yourself :) | 12:41 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Sfiet_Konstantin < Enthusiastic Dev for Nemo project, currently intern at Jolla, I'm french and have chinese blood :) | 12:41 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:http://ubuntuone.com/1Ku4GWdDOxSdb7Kg5cDQ : What do you think? :) | 12:42 |
| Nicd- | Sfiet_Konstantin: in a bucket in your attic? | 12:42 |
| fanwenjie | nice to meet you | 12:42 |
| Superpelican | note:It's a screenshot | 12:43 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Superpelican: we couldn't t find that page :D | 12:43 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | fanwenjie: :) | 12:43 |
| Superpelican | oh | 12:43 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:http://ubuntuone.com/1Ku4GWdDOxSdb7Kg5cDQ5e | 12:44 |
| Superpelican | something went wrong | 12:44 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | so, if you want to skip the presentation step, fanwenjie, what's your problem ? | 12:44 |
| Nicd- | Superpelican: put a space after : so your links are clickable | 12:44 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :) | 12:44 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Superpelican: -_- | 12:44 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | blue and acircle ? | 12:44 |
| Superpelican | it's not finished | 12:44 |
| Superpelican | it's the base | 12:44 |
| Superpelican | What do you think of the form? | 12:44 |
| Superpelican | Is it neat enough? | 12:45 |
| Superpelican | Or should I redo it? | 12:45 |
| Superpelican | blue is the background | 12:45 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin: ^ | 12:45 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Superpelican: :D | 12:45 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Superpelican: you know, it is something artistic | 12:45 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | so it will never be finished | 12:45 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :P | 12:45 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | redoing is not the good idea | 12:46 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | try to enhance it | 12:46 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :) | 12:46 |
| Superpelican | ok | 12:46 |
| Superpelican | I'll edit it a little bit | 12:46 |
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| piggz_ | hi, just installed the sailfish qt5 sdk, getting qmake error: Fatal: This specfile does not have the qtc_* macros defined | 12:47 |
| piggz_ | any tips? | 12:47 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | piggz_: :) | 12:47 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | yes, open the .spec | 12:47 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | not the spec, the yaml | 12:47 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | search for the "Builder: xxx" line | 12:48 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | replace with "Builder: qtc5" | 12:48 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | compile, hjave fun :) | 12:48 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :D well it should work piggz_, but if it do not, complain at me :P | 12:49 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | fanwenjie: what is the aim of your app ? | 12:50 |
| piggz_ | Sfiet_Konstantin: i'll try ... unlikely i'll have much fun today :/ it turns out im an idiot ... family holiday to geneva today, but yesterday we discovered my passport expired in June! so, ive had to see everyone off, and will get a passport on tuesday, to fly on wednesday ... hopfully i wont miss it all! | 12:50 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | piggz_: :/ | 12:51 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | piggz_: what is your nationality ? | 12:52 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | european ? | 12:52 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:http://ubuntuone.com/25VZTFeItEi5N9EPxwgeRv enhanced a bit :) | 12:54 |
| Superpelican | disclaimer:It's always going to look bad | 12:55 |
| Superpelican | I don't think I can make it much better than this | 12:55 |
| Superpelican | if I had a Wacom tablet | 12:55 |
| Superpelican | ... | 12:55 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :D | 12:56 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | better | 12:56 |
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| Superpelican | ok | 12:56 |
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| Superpelican | thanks for the feedback | 12:56 |
| Superpelican | then I'll keep it like this | 12:56 |
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| Superpelican | I'll try to enhance it a tiny bit | 12:56 |
| Superpelican | and finish it | 12:56 |
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| piggz_ | Sfiet_Konstantin: ah, found it ... it is set correctly in a new project, but not set when opening an old, non-sailfush project | 13:00 |
| piggz_ | is qt5svg on sailfish? | 13:01 |
| piggz_ | /opt/sdk/pgz-spaceinvaders-qt5/usr/bin/pgz-spaceinvaders-qt5: error while loading shared libraries: libQt5Svg.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory | 13:01 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | piggz_: Qt += svg ? | 13:02 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | it is an addon module, not sure if it is in sailfish | 13:02 |
| piggz_ | Sfiet_Konstantin: yes, ive got that line | 13:03 |
| piggz_ | (btw, my connectivity is due to trail travel) | 13:03 |
| piggz_ | s/train | 13:03 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | np piggz_ | 13:04 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | go in SDK control (or better SSH into MerSDK vm) | 13:04 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | and "zypper se qt5-qtsvg" | 13:04 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | or search "qt5-qtsvg" in SDK control | 13:04 |
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| piggz_ | Sfiet_Konstantin: what s the login to login at the vm console? | 13:07 |
| Superpelican | Morpog:How do you stop the bezier pen? | 13:08 |
| faenil | piggz_, ssh -o port=2223 root@localhost | 13:08 |
| Superpelican | when I click on it again, everything I drawed with it is gone | 13:08 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | piggz_: nemo nemo | 13:08 |
| faenil | or root/nemo | 13:08 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | root/<blank> IIRC | 13:09 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | not sure | 13:09 |
| faenil | oh right, root/blank on emulator | 13:09 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | aaah, it might be impossible to SSH into MerSDK | 13:09 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | you need the key | 13:09 |
| faenil | Sfiet_Konstantin, his error is on running, not building, from what I see | 13:10 |
| Morpog | mer port is 2222 | 13:10 |
| faenil | so he wants to ssh into Emulator, not MerSDK, imho | 13:10 |
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| Morpog | and root login on mer sdk is root + rootme | 13:11 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: running ? | 13:11 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | missed it | 13:11 |
| faenil | Sfiet_Konstantin, he gets what error at runtime | 13:11 |
| faenil | well, it's about loading shared libs | 13:11 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | piggz_: add qt5-qtsvg in Requires ? | 13:11 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | (in the yaml file) | 13:11 |
| faenil | exactly | 13:11 |
| faenil | that's what I was about to say | 13:11 |
| Morpog | Superpelican, press enter key when done | 13:12 |
| Superpelican | wished I knew that earlier :( | 13:12 |
| Superpelican | I drawed half the Clamshell with the bezier pen | 13:12 |
| Superpelican | now everything's gone | 13:13 |
| Superpelican | bbl | 13:13 |
| Superpelican | lunch :) | 13:13 |
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| Morpog | :-) | 13:15 |
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| piggz_ | Sfiet_Konstantin: faenil: can the emulator run landscape? http://imgbin.org/index.php?page=image&id=14679 | 13:26 |
| piggz_ | not bad for a first compile/run tho | 13:27 |
| faenil | piggz_, are you using QtQuick2? | 13:27 |
| faenil | or QtQuick1 compatibility? | 13:27 |
| faenil | that looks like QtQuick1 orientation issue | 13:28 |
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| piggz_ | faenil: was a port of 1->2 | 13:29 |
| faenil | so it's using QtQuick2 | 13:29 |
| faenil | but it's landscape only right? | 13:30 |
| piggz_ | faenil: it should be landscape only ... im maybe missing something | 13:31 |
| faenil | the thing is the resolution of the emulator is fixed, afaik | 13:31 |
| piggz_ | for BB10 landscape i used BB api, not qtquick | 13:31 |
| faenil | and it's set with a VBoxManage command, at least that's how I do it in Nemo Wayland VM | 13:32 |
| faenil | (how I was told to do, actually) | 13:32 |
| faenil | I guess SailfishEmul does the same | 13:32 |
| piggz_ | btw, how is your nemo work going? | 13:32 |
| faenil | piggz_, good, good, finished porting voicecall-ui-reference yesterday, been debugging other stuff and fixing few packaging issues today | 13:33 |
| zetaz | I don't know if the emulator window size is fixed, but the application window can be changed. It is was is done for hardware adaptation like on the ExoPC | 13:37 |
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| zetaz | piggz_ : take a look here at the part with width/height parameters : https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Sailfish/Exopc | 13:38 |
| zetaz | not sure it is really what you want to do, but could be a hack the time to make some tests before using the proper API for landscape | 13:39 |
| zetaz | on the new SDK, the file as moved to "/usr/lib/qt5/qml/Sailfish/Silica/ApplicationWindow.qml" | 13:39 |
| piggz_ | this has no silica code, just plain qml/qtquick2 | 13:43 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | zetaz: you shouldn't use hard coded sizes | 14:00 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | IMO better use ApplicationWindow as a basis to draw your app | 14:00 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | put your app inside and it isok | 14:01 |
| zetaz | Sfiet_Konstantin: I agree. I just proposed it as a hack for testing only | 14:04 |
| zetaz | I am using the new sdk emulator image on my tablet, so was doing these kind of hack to make it work... | 14:04 |
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| zetaz | Sfiet_Konstantin: by the way, don't know if you tried, but qt5/wayland on my packard bell butterfly works like a sharm, almost out of the box ! | 14:05 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | zetaz: with what ? | 14:05 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Mer ? | 14:05 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Sailfish OS ? | 14:06 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Nemo ? | 14:06 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | did not looked about it yet | 14:06 |
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| zetaz | like with the ExoPC. Use the sailfish SDK emulator image on x86 devices | 14:07 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | zetaz: you just loaded it and it booted ? | 14:09 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | with the latest SDK ? | 14:09 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | hum ... | 14:09 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | mine needs hw adaptation, since it is an AMD cpu / gpu | 14:09 |
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| zetaz | Sfiet_Konstantin : I just finished to update the wiki page : https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Sailfish/ButterflyTouch | 14:14 |
| zetaz | Sfiet_Konstantin: I had a lot to adapt on my try with last SDK, and some issues (stability mainly), but it seems perfect with this new one. | 14:15 |
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| zetaz | I'll try to make a video to show the improvements, like the graphical effects that now work (glow for example) | 14:17 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | zetaz: cool | 14:18 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | sounds nice | 14:18 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | awesome :) | 14:18 |
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| zetaz | Sfiet_Konstantin: the bug in the first sdk that didn't allowed to use port 22 on remote devices (default to 65535...) is now corrected. | 14:41 |
| zetaz | I can compile, upload and run from my desktop computer directly to my tablet | 14:41 |
| zetaz | great ! | 14:41 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | that's awesome news | 14:42 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | will do a port asap i think | 14:42 |
| zetaz | Sfiet_Konstantin: I will document what I have done in the afternoon (still trying to understand some things now) | 14:43 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | zetaz: cool | 14:43 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | thanks ! | 14:43 |
| faenil | great zetaz :) | 14:43 |
| zetaz | Sfiet_Konstantin: Do you know why the app doesn't appear in the app list ? | 14:43 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | zetaz: yes, if you did not compiled it with "deploy as RPM" | 14:43 |
| zetaz | said differently, do you know where the list of app shown is ? | 14:43 |
| zetaz | ok, thanks | 14:44 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | in /usr/share/applications/*.desktop | 14:44 |
| zetaz | Sfiet_Konstantin: when it upload through sftp, there is the "/usr/share/applications/HelloWorld.desktop" file, but it doesn't appear | 14:46 |
| zetaz | wait, it is here, but with no icon | 14:47 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | zetaz: icons might appear with reboot | 14:47 |
| zetaz | I can click on it and something tries to run, but crash... | 14:47 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | su | 14:47 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | journalctl -fa | 14:47 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and you might check the Icon=xxxxx field of the .deskop file | 14:47 |
| zetaz | ok, seems the icon didn't exist | 14:50 |
| zetaz | changed it with one that exist, and rebooting to see if it displays it now... | 14:50 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | zetaz: check in /usr/share/icons/theme/jolla-ambiant/meegotouch/icons | 14:50 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | btw, boot speed ? | 14:50 |
| zetaz | Sfiet_Konstantin: not the fastest I have seen, but it is probably not tuned to my hardware | 14:51 |
| zetaz | Icon now appears ! | 14:51 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | zetaz: :) | 14:51 |
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| zetaz | Sfiet_Konstantin: still crashing if I launch it from the icon... | 14:53 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | zetaz: journal ? | 14:53 |
| zetaz | it works when launched from QtCreator remotely however. | 14:54 |
| zetaz | I have some trouble to decipher the journal, I am on it | 14:54 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | zetaz: just paste all the events :D | 14:56 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | start journal, launch app, wait it to crash, paste the journal | 14:56 |
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| zetaz | Sfiet_Konstantin: give me one minute to try to understand what it outputs, and then I will use all the available help ! :D | 14:57 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | zetaz: :) | 14:58 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I'm guessing: cannot load shared object | 14:58 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | so you might just need to do invoker --type=j (or q) | 14:58 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | right now | 14:58 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | because you need to compile with support of mapplauncherd | 14:58 |
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| zetaz | ok, I dig a bit in the differences between QtCreator and the icon shortcut. QtCreator directly launch /usr/bin/HelloWorld (work perfectly if i launch it by hand with ssh), whereas the shortcut launches "invoker --type=silica-qt5 -s /usr/bin/HelloWorld" | 15:01 |
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| zetaz | never seen this invoker command before. The help says "Launch applications compiled as a shared library (-shared) or a position independent executable (-pie) through mapplauncherd." | 15:03 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | zetaz: yep | 15:05 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | not using mapplauncherd | 15:05 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | invoker actually helps your app loading faster | 15:05 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | it uses precreated instances of QQuickView and sailfish components, so your app just uses these precreated stuff | 15:06 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | you need to do some additional stuff for making it use invoker | 15:06 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | but i forgot what | 15:06 |
| zetaz | So the messages of use in the journal must be the ones of the command "booster-silica-qt5" | 15:07 |
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| zetaz | Sfiet_Konstantin: here is the journal output : http://pastebin.com/eNzg46Yr | 15:08 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | zetaz: as a workaround use invoket --type=j in the desktop file | 15:08 |
| zetaz | "/usr/bin/HelloWorld: cannot dynamically load executable" | 15:09 |
| zetaz | Sfiet_Konstantin: ok | 15:09 |
| zetaz | Sfiet_Konstantin: do I need to keep the -s flag (single instance) ? | 15:10 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | yep | 15:10 |
| zetaz | ok | 15:10 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | if you want it to be single instance | 15:10 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | it do not change anythign | 15:10 |
| zetaz | it works now ! | 15:10 |
| zetaz | Sfiet_Konstantin: can you explain me what is the difference with this type ? | 15:11 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | zetaz: well, I'm not really sure, but it depends on the level of stuff loaded. -q is trying to preload Qt stuff (like QGuiApplication etc) | 15:16 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | -j might be trying to load jolla stuff, and sailfish-silica is for the whole silica machinery | 15:16 |
| Superpelican | Ah Sfiet_Konstantin I see you've already sent your main.cpp to the ML :) | 15:18 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Superpelican: trying to be helpful | 15:18 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | that's all | 15:18 |
| Superpelican | :nod: :) | 15:19 |
| Superpelican | I was just thinking | 15:19 |
| Superpelican | if I shouldn't mail your solution ;) | 15:19 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :) | 15:19 |
| Superpelican | with of course the credits :D | 15:21 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I don't care about credits | 15:21 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | here it is more about providing the solution :) | 15:22 |
| Superpelican | Yes, but I think it would be a bit evil of me to steal your solution | 15:22 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | it is not stealing :) | 15:22 |
| Superpelican | Well, it would look just like I invented it | 15:22 |
| Superpelican | which is not true | 15:23 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :) | 15:23 |
| sardini | well, how to close "hello sailors" app ? | 15:24 |
| sardini | forget it | 15:25 |
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| Superpelican | swipe from the left edge to the right | 15:26 |
| Superpelican | just like all Sailfish apps | 15:26 |
| Superpelican | then when your on the homescreen | 15:26 |
| Superpelican | longpress the cover on the homescreen | 15:26 |
| Superpelican | and then a X will appear | 15:26 |
| sardini | not very easy with a mouse | 15:26 |
| sardini | but it's ok, ty | 15:27 |
| Superpelican | true | 15:27 |
| Superpelican | sardini:What's your screen resolution? | 15:27 |
| sardini | 1080 | 15:27 |
| Nicd- | Superpelican: oh so that's how you close a cover app | 15:27 |
| Superpelican | ok | 15:28 |
| Superpelican | then your emulator should fit on the screen | 15:28 |
| Superpelican | :) | 15:28 |
| ibins | sardini: Alternatively you could swipe from the edge on the top down to the bottom while being in the app itself | 15:28 |
| Superpelican | on my computer there are scrollbars | 15:28 |
| Superpelican | ibins:Isn't that Harmattan only? | 15:28 |
| ibins | Superpelican: In Alpha 2 this is implemented like in Harmattan | 15:29 |
| Superpelican | Ah nice | 15:29 |
| Superpelican | didn't know :) | 15:29 |
| Superpelican | awesome it works! :D | 15:29 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:chris responded on the ML :) | 15:30 |
| Superpelican | oh looks like he responded to Martin | 15:31 |
| Morpog | swipe down to close sardini, just like on N9 | 15:31 |
| Morpog | oh, i should read to the end before posting :) | 15:31 |
| sardini | :) | 15:31 |
| * Superpelican loves new close way | 15:31 | |
| sardini | Sfiet_Konstantin, the app launch (with warning) but I see nothing | 15:32 |
| ibins | Morpog: As nice as this feature is, it couldn't be repeated too often :-) | 15:32 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | sardini: what do you mean nothing ? | 15:32 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | not even a place hoder saying pull the pulley menu ? | 15:32 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | sardini: try to pull the pulley menu | 15:33 |
| sardini | I ll try again | 15:34 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | what are the warnings ? | 15:34 |
| sardini | http://pastebin.com/z7peUPXL | 15:34 |
| sardini | qtC say it's run, and in emulator I see nothing | 15:35 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | sardini: damn | 15:35 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | that qt graphical effects | 15:35 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | go to the CityPage.qml | 15:35 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and remove the import QtGraphicalEffects 1.0 | 15:36 |
| sardini | compil http://pastebin.com/3Uhvudim | 15:36 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | sardini: ^^ | 15:37 |
| zetaz | Sfiet_Konstantin: I wrote down what I have done, with your help : https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Sailfish/ButterflyTouch#Interface_with_QtCreator | 15:37 |
| zetaz | Sfiet_Konstantin: Hope I didn't forget anything | 15:37 |
| zetaz | Sfiet_Konstantin: thanks for the help !! | 15:37 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :) | 15:37 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | zetaz: for the help ? :D | 15:37 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | you are helping us :) | 15:37 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | will look at it when having time | 15:38 |
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| zetaz | Sfiet_Konstantin: damn, never write this line, it makes me remember that I actually forgot something.... ;) | 15:38 |
| zetaz | Sfiet_Konstantin: I mean never write : "Hope I didn't forget anything" | 15:38 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :D | 15:39 |
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| stephg | hihi anyone about? | 15:39 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | stephg: anyone about ? | 15:39 |
| stephg | hola Sfiet_Konstantin | 15:40 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | sardini: any news ? | 15:40 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | that should work ? | 15:40 |
| stephg | I'm on holiday but I just wanted to drop in and say woo about the SDK release :) | 15:40 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:WIP:http://ubuntuone.com/19dz65Hqogimi1rP4yDveC | 15:40 |
| zetaz | Sfiet_Konstantin: It's great that I can help the community, but you really helped me here ;) | 15:40 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Superpelican: hihi :D | 15:40 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | still very amateurish :) | 15:41 |
| Superpelican | I know | 15:41 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | but at least it looks like something | 15:41 |
| Superpelican | but it's the best it'll get | 15:41 |
| Superpelican | :D | 15:41 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | remove the background and make the lines thicker | 15:41 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | zetaz: :) | 15:41 |
| Superpelican | :nod: | 15:41 |
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| sardini | oops big bug, when I try to add a city | 15:43 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | sardini: that is ? | 15:44 |
| sardini | now it's ok | 15:44 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:Not sure what I did, but it look pretty nice :D : http://ubuntuone.com/5qXQdngy8eTvhKtdMTAnqa | 15:45 |
| Superpelican | accidently pressed some button | 15:45 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Superpelican: hihi | 15:45 |
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| sardini | ok nice Sfiet_Konstantin :) | 15:46 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | sardini: so ? | 15:47 |
| sardini | sdk a bit slow, that's why sometimes I don't understand the app | 15:47 |
| sardini | perfect | 15:47 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | sardini: swipe left to right to see attached page :) | 15:47 |
| sardini | note for jolla-guy, when we must enter a text, it's not very clear | 15:48 |
| sardini | maybe a fine line to show where to type text | 15:49 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | sardini: there is a placeholder text | 15:50 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | i find it ok | 15:50 |
| sardini | need to do the thumbnail | 15:52 |
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| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:And what do you think of this one: http://ubuntuone.com/2nxHDwUjcXsAiuQ08ZpyXJ ? | 15:58 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | remove the background blue D: | 15:58 |
| Superpelican | Really? | 15:58 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | very pretty :) | 15:58 |
| Superpelican | I already changed the color | 15:58 |
| Superpelican | So you think it's good enough if I remove the background? | 15:59 |
| piee | why usr pic？ | 15:59 |
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| piee | use why not | 15:59 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | piee: are you chinese (as well ?) :) | 16:00 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:Seriously: Inkscape > Help > About Memory :D | 16:01 |
| Superpelican | most geeky drawing program ever ;) | 16:02 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Superpelican: useful | 16:02 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | to debug | 16:02 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | or see thazt you have a lot of memory used | 16:02 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | i like it | 16:02 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | it is not really geeky | 16:03 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | it is a good program that's all :) | 16:03 |
| Superpelican | you have a system monitor :) | 16:03 |
| Superpelican | for that purpose | 16:03 |
| Superpelican | what!?? | 16:03 |
| Superpelican | it eats 819 mb | 16:03 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | yes | 16:03 |
| Superpelican | aaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh | 16:03 |
| piee | i am ericccc | 16:04 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | piee: haha | 16:04 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :) | 16:04 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | wb piee ericcc | 16:04 |
| piee | lol | 16:04 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | piee: they are drawing stuff for their apps | 16:04 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | nothing interesting | 16:04 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Superpelican is learning how to use inkscape (a drawing sw) | 16:05 |
| piee | use picture is fast | 16:05 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | piee: what do you mean ? | 16:06 |
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| piee | draw is too dificult | 16:07 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:lol, Inkscape > Help > Ask us a question : "Why does your program eat as much memory as my whole OS + Firefox + Thunderbird + Konversation uses!?" | 16:07 |
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| Superpelican | nah | 16:09 |
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| Superpelican | I'm not that bad | 16:09 |
| Superpelican | I didn't actually ask that question | 16:09 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Superpelican: :D | 16:09 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:Should I add numbers to the clamshell? | 16:19 |
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| Superpelican | it is a multiplication table practising app after all :) | 16:19 |
| Superpelican | each area a number on it? | 16:20 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Superpelican: why not :) | 16:20 |
| Superpelican | 1,2,3,4,5...10 | 16:20 |
| Superpelican | I'm worried it'll ruin it | 16:20 |
| Superpelican | of course I can do save as... | 16:20 |
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| Superpelican | but | 16:20 |
| Superpelican | still | 16:21 |
| Superpelican | I'll use the awesome new oxygen kde font :D | 16:22 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | oxygen kde font ? | 16:24 |
| Superpelican | yeah | 16:25 |
| Superpelican | At least on openSUSE 12.3 with KDE 4.10 I have it | 16:25 |
| Superpelican | maybe it's an openSUSE font then | 16:25 |
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| zetaz | Sfiet_Konstantin: now running from hard-drive with multi-boot (From a Fedora 19 Grub2) ;) (It must be the first time where almost everything I touch works from the first time !) | 16:36 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Superpelican: oxygen don't have a font, do they ? | 16:36 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | zetaz: :) | 16:36 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | zetaz: I'm doing some triple boot on my tab now | 16:36 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | like fedora 18 / sailfish SDK alpha X / Sailfish SDK alpha WL | 16:37 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | but the WL version don't want to bring the wifi on | 16:37 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | :( | 16:37 |
| zetaz | there must be about 10 entries in my grub (several kernels for each distrib), with 2 fedora version, a Win8 (I don't know why it's still here ;) ) and now sailfish | 16:38 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | zetaz: the iconia don't have enough hdd to do that :( | 16:38 |
| zetaz | Sfiet_Konstantin: didn't tried the wifi yet, as I a working at 1 meter from my box... | 16:39 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | zetaz: how did you get internet working on your device ? wired connecton ? | 16:39 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | mine don't have an ethernet port | 16:39 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | so wifi needed :( | 16:39 |
| zetaz | Sfiet_Konstantin: you made me think that there are a lot of connectors on my tabletPC, so I just tried another one : HDMI | 16:43 |
| zetaz | Sfiet_Konstantin: I works ! | 16:43 |
| zetaz | I have a 24" Sailfish :D | 16:43 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :D | 16:43 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | IMO the hdmi port is hw managed, so sailfish don't need to care about it | 16:44 |
| zetaz | Should I say "#IAmTheFirstOne" ? ;) | 16:44 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | but I might be wrong | 16:44 |
| zetaz | Sfiet_Konstantin: yes probably, it works as a pure copy | 16:44 |
| zetaz | I have both screens displaying the same thing | 16:44 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | zetaz: good for a presentation | 16:46 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | zetaz: first app to install on it: ambiancechanger | 16:46 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :) | 16:47 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and I wonder how weatherfish would look on that kind of screens | 16:47 |
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| zetaz | Sfiet_Konstantin: I am still playing with an empty Hello World project, but sure, once everything is ok, I have to test with real apps ! | 16:48 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | zetaz: git clone some of the apps in the sailfishapps github repo | 16:49 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | most of them are pretty good | 16:49 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | tweetian is also awesome | 16:49 |
| * Superpelican checks out sailfishapps on github | 16:49 | |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | (sadly I never really made it work :() | 16:49 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and I wonder if it is ported | 16:49 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | mine are more demo-like than pure apps | 16:50 |
| zetaz | thanks for the github repo name, I will try | 16:51 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:Too bad for grrok | 16:53 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Superpelican: yep | 16:55 |
| Superpelican | Maybe they can modify it | 16:55 |
| Superpelican | so it can become a stand alone RSS reader | 16:55 |
| Stskeeps | zetaz: got a photo of the 24" sailfish, ooi? | 16:56 |
| zetaz | Stskeeps: not yet, I have to take some capture on both the device and it | 16:57 |
| Stskeeps | oki | 16:57 |
| zetaz | Stskeeps: you want to see something in particular ? | 16:57 |
| Stskeeps | nah, just curious | 16:57 |
| zetaz | Stskeeps: If you want to smile, I managed to make Sailfish run on my computer, but can't even found how to make some text to wrap on the next line in QML... ;) | 16:58 |
| zetaz | shouldn't "wrapMode: Text.Wrap" do it ? | 16:58 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | zetaz: you also have to set the size of the text / label component | 16:59 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | like with: parent.width | 16:59 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | or anchors.left: parent.left; anchors.right: parent.right | 17:00 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | by default, the size is null, if you do word wrapping | 17:00 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | it is non-null if you don't do word wrapping | 17:00 |
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| zetaz | Sfiet_Konstantin: thanks, I will try | 17:09 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | zetaz: :) | 17:10 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | QML is beautiful and fast | 17:10 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and sometimes arcanic | 17:10 |
| zetaz | perfect ! | 17:11 |
| zetaz | Sfiet_Konstantin: Learning QML is on my todo list for a while, but as I mainly work with desktop devices, it is less needed than on sailfish. Now that I have a complete working setup, I think it will be easier to learn it | 17:12 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:I'm (not quite proud) to present you the final version of my clamshell logo: http://ubuntuone.com/65eb1RW1HvmY2LFSeZOnlE | 17:12 |
| Superpelican | and this time it's the actual image in SVG | 17:13 |
| Superpelican | :D | 17:13 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | zetaz: I started to learn with Qt4 desktop | 17:13 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and done most of my work on desktop | 17:13 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | imo qml dev on desktop is easier to learn | 17:13 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Superpelican: it is super cute and nice | 17:13 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | i like it actually :) | 17:13 |
| Superpelican | I'm happy to hear that :) | 17:13 |
| Superpelican | Now I finally have a Cover for my app | 17:14 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:But which size are covers on Sailfish? | 17:14 |
| Superpelican | I'll need to scale it down a bit I think | 17:14 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Superpelican: dunno | 17:14 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | better read the docs for that | 17:14 |
| Superpelican | lol | 17:14 |
| Superpelican | you can actually open a query with yourself :D | 17:15 |
| Superpelican | it echoes everything you say | 17:15 |
| Superpelican | ok thanks | 17:15 |
| Superpelican | I'll read the docs then | 17:15 |
| Superpelican | hmm this doesn't mention anything about the actual image: https://sailfishos.org/sailfish-silica/qml-sailfishsilica-coverbackground.html#details :( | 17:16 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | Superpelican: :D ? | 17:17 |
| Superpelican | ? | 17:17 |
| Superpelican | ok | 17:17 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:I removed the temptation | 17:18 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | Superpelican: : | 17:19 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :D | 17:19 |
| zetaz | Sfiet_Konstantin: It is probably simpler, but I never actually needed it on desktop, so didn't spent time to learn it. But on mobile devices, to benefit of all the animations and gestures I will need it. | 17:19 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | zetaz: imo, on desktop, it is good to do some small eyecandy sometimes | 17:20 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and honestly, widgets are sometimes pita | 17:20 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I was first like everyone out there: declarative SCRIPT language in Qt ? | 17:20 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | are you kidding me, C++ is the way to go, performances blabla | 17:21 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and then I tried QML, and when my dev time got cut by 3 I understood the benefits of QML :) | 17:21 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:Is it possible to use a .svg as cover? | 17:25 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Superpelican: think so | 17:25 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | but better use png | 17:25 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | it will be faster to load a png than to render a (complex) png | 17:26 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | svg | 17:26 |
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| Superpelican | ok | 17:26 |
| zetaz | Sfiet_Konstantin: I have the habit to generate interface from xml config files or other dynamical data. Can you do it in QML ? ;) But on the whole I agree with you. Only that I can't be everywhere... | 17:27 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | zetaz: can't you do that | 17:28 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | zetaz: no, it can be but like widgets, it is about 85-95% of the usage | 17:29 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | you still have corner cases of cause | 17:29 |
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| Morpog | Superpelican, are you still working on your clamshell icon? | 17:33 |
| Superpelican | nope | 17:33 |
| Superpelican | Morpog:I finished it | 17:33 |
| Morpog | ah fine :) | 17:33 |
| Superpelican | Morpog: http://ubuntuone.com/65eb1RW1HvmY2LFSeZOnlE | 17:33 |
| Morpog | I made one too, because I was bored | 17:33 |
| Superpelican | nice | 17:34 |
| Superpelican | Have to leave now though :( | 17:34 |
| Superpelican | Maybe bbl | 17:34 |
| Morpog | Superpelican, http://abload.de/img/clamshell-finalg1x8a.png | 17:34 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Superpelican: night the super hero for the birds | 17:34 |
| Morpog | can send you the SVG, If you like it | 17:35 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Morpog: are you serious :O | 17:35 |
| Morpog | ? | 17:35 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | it is so awesome | 17:35 |
| Morpog | thx, was more of a learning session for me :) still need to learn alot in inkscape | 17:36 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Morpog: :O | 17:37 |
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| Morpog | I guess he missed it :) | 17:39 |
| zetaz | Sfiet_Konstantin: it takes about 20 seconds to boot from grub | 17:41 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | zetaz: ok | 17:42 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | seems to be slower than with the X11 version | 17:42 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | 20s is still ok though | 17:42 |
| zetaz | how is it possible to make a video of a glossy screen .... | 17:48 |
| zetaz | think it will be easier to film the 24" monitor | 17:48 |
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| sardini | hello, a trick to reload the Cover ? | 19:38 |
| sardini | maybe this is done automatically | 19:39 |
| sardini | ? | 19:39 |
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| Yaniel | what cover? | 19:45 |
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| sardini | cover when app is reduced | 19:50 |
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| zetaz | Sfiet_Konstantin: just tried the ambiancechanger. works ok, only had to hack it a bit to add "DEPLOYMENT_PREFIX=/usr/" in the globals.pri file (and in *.desktop), so it deploys somewhere where it has write access | 20:25 |
| zetaz | but for tweetian, more work is needed to make it Qt5 compatible... | 20:26 |
| zetaz | first error is that it says that the dbus module is not availlable, then there are classes that moved from gui to widgets module. Didn't go in the details. | 20:27 |
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| sardini | seems there is no Timer {} qml with saiilfish sdk | 20:49 |
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| special | did you forget 'import QtQuick 2.0'? | 20:50 |
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| sardini | no no, but if you tell me there is Timer{} the error is mine | 20:54 |
| special | Timer is provided by QtQuick, it is there and does work | 20:57 |
| zetaz | Sfiet_Konstantin: weatherfish app runs perfectly too, and it looks good ! However, to build it I had to comment the line "import QtGraphicalEffects 1.0" in the file "pages/CityPage.qml". | 21:00 |
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