Tuesday, 2013-07-16

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faenilhey guys! o/08:00
Sfiet_Konstantinwb faenil08:03
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faenilSfiet_Konstantin, thanks mate08:07
faenilSfiet_Konstantin, it's great to be back :)08:07
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Sfiet_Konstantinfaenil: yeah08:09
Sfiet_Konstantinso08:09
Sfiet_Konstantinend of exams ?08:09
faenilSfiet_Konstantin, end of July exams, yeah08:09
Sfiet_Konstantin:/08:10
Sfiet_Konstantinyou have 1 week or IRC ?08:10
faenilgot to start working on a Uni project at 1st of Aug, and study as well from 15th because of exams in september08:10
faenil2 weeks this time :D08:10
faenilI finished earlier than last year :)08:10
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Sfiet_Konstantin:/08:12
Sfiet_Konstantinactually you just never stop working08:12
Sfiet_Konstantin:(08:12
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faenilSfiet_Konstantin, I'm actually very surprised that I never see young peeps on twitter writing about university08:13
faenileveryone is always coding/hacking08:13
Sfiet_Konstantinmaybe uni in italia is slightly crazy08:13
faenilSfiet_Konstantin, it has to be that08:13
Sfiet_Konstantinwe have 1.5 month of true vacation in average08:13
faenila friend of mine has been in Sweden for Erasmus this year08:14
faeniland he said university is much less stressful there08:14
Sfiet_Konstantinfaenil: in it or in sweden ?08:14
fk_lx:-D08:15
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faenilSfiet_Konstantin, university in Sweden is much less stressful08:16
faenil(he said)08:16
Sfiet_Konstantink08:16
Sfiet_Konstantinwell, for me it sounds like uni in italia is über stressful08:16
faenilit IS stressful for sure08:17
faenilbut I wouldn't be able to compare it...I have no clue what university in other countries are like ...08:17
faenilit might be me exaggerating, but I just never find the time to do stuff, and it's not like I study all day during lessons08:17
faenilin fact, during lessons I'm always here, when I'm not at uni08:17
Sfiet_Konstantin:D08:18
faenil:D08:19
faenilbut when exams approach, I just feel too stressed to do other stuff08:19
faenilI'd feel guilty for not studying enough08:19
faeniland the fact that we also have exams in September means you have to study in August...08:20
faenilso you finish summer exams in half-end july08:20
faeniland you have to study for September exams in August :/08:20
Sfiet_Konstantinyeah08:20
Sfiet_Konstantinsounds ... interesting08:20
Sfiet_Konstantinespecially to have exams in sep08:20
faenilyeah :/08:21
faenilthe only chance to not have exams in sep is to do them all in June-July08:22
faenilwhich, at times, is impossible08:22
Sfiet_Konstantin:/08:26
faenillike in my case, I have a P2P project to work on, it will take like 1.5-2months08:26
faenilit's not like I can work on it in June-July and leave all the rest out08:26
fk_lxfaenil: yeah, in Poland there is also exam session in June & September08:26
faenilI HAVE to do it in August08:26
faenilfk_lx, great08:26
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tiduxso what's the deal with the SDK?19:27
tiduxlast time I tried it I had to accept this horrendous EULA19:28
tiduxwhat's the point of a Free OS with a proprietary SDK?19:28
specialkeep in mind that it's an alpha SDK, and the OS isn't actually released anywhere else yet19:28
tiduxso you're saying the SDK will eventually be Free when Sailfish itself releases?19:29
specialmuch of it is opensource already, it's actually using the Mer SDK19:29
Stskeepsthe closed source part is branding and related to the emulator contents and target contents19:29
tiduxI just want to avoid an OS X situation where all the interesting bits are proprietary19:30
Stskeepsfact of life in mobile linux: HW adaptation (excluding kernel and some scripts/configs) will be proprietary; there'll be parts that you need for a complete and modern consumer experience but you simply can't find in the 'open source market' of decent enough quality19:35
tiduxthat's such bullshit19:37
tiduxI don't care if the designs are "open hardware," I just want to make sure everything in software space is Free19:38
Stskeepsit's not, really19:38
tiduxthat sucks19:38
StskeepsHW adaptation: opengl es acceleration, modem interfacing on many, etc; parts: input methods, dictionaries for virtual keyboards, android app compatibility, etc19:39
tiduxthere are plenty of Free IMEs and dictionaries though19:39
tiduxat least on Android19:39
Stskeepsin the end we can argue ourselves to death over details of open vs what's not open -- best thing to do is to take a look at the device or the OS when you have it; and see if you're happy with it and the experience19:40
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tiduxif I can't use it with no binary blobs I won't buy it in the first place19:40
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Stskeepsi should try to sell a phone to richard stallman one day19:41
specialhaha19:44
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Yanielplot twist: he uses a lumia19:52
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