| wirew0rm | Sfiet_Konstantin: ok then i think i'll have to do that. don't like the trend though. im very enthusiastic about sailfishos because i hope for a smartphone os with a more "linux like" user/developer has the control feeling. | 00:04 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | wirew0rm: at least it is easy to support many platform with that method | 00:14 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | wirew0rm: if you have to package your sdk for every linux distro ... | 00:14 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | that would be a pain | 00:14 |
| special | the SDK is only an alpha, and there aren't any sailfish images outside of it | 00:14 |
| special | might be a different situation in the future | 00:15 |
| fmunozs | wirew0rm, the installer doesn't require to be run as root, so you could run it under a different user with less privileges and copy whatever it extracts | 00:23 |
| wirew0rm | Sfiet_Konstantin: I can partly understand the motivation, but i a) don't understand what blackmagic the installer does that couldn't be done in a few comprehensible lines in a bashscript and b) packages don't have to be built upstream, but this is making it very hard to build packages | 00:36 |
| wirew0rm | special: also understandable, but if no one asks, chances are lower for the future, i think | 00:38 |
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| wirew0rm | Sfiet_Konstantin, special, fmunozs: thanks for answering my questions, looking forward to the presentation of the device. (and a future where i can do # pacman -S sailfishos-sdk ;) ) | 00:57 |
| fmunozs | I used to mantain some aur packages for meego image creator :P | 00:58 |
| wirew0rm | fmunozs: I'm only "Contributor" :) | 01:06 |
| wirew0rm | and i've never looked that much into meego as i was quite happy with webOS for a time... but i'm really missing the performance of a new phone, so sailfish could be exactly at the right time | 01:09 |
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| wirew0rm | found a way to get the emulator only: http://jolla.cachefly.net/SailfishOSSDK/alpha/repository/common/org.merproject.emulator/0.0.5-3emulator.7z | 02:00 |
| wirew0rm | unfortionaly this repository is not browsable, so you cannot watch for new versions... | 02:01 |
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| sigmaorion | hi! Is audio working on the SDK? I've read in the documentation that it should work and that the pulley menu should make a sound, but I get no sound at all... | 04:32 |
| sigmaorion | sorry, with "audio on the SDK" I meant "in the emulator" | 04:32 |
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| dm8tbr | sigmaorion: make sure the virtual machine has a sound card | 04:47 |
| dm8tbr | sigmaorion: also check using e.g. alsamixer if the sound levels in the emulator are up | 04:48 |
| sigmaorion | dm8tbr, yeah, in the Wiki it says that the VM doesn't have audio enabled by default, but it was enabled | 04:48 |
| sigmaorion | and alsamixer returns an error, something like "connection refused" | 04:48 |
| sigmaorion | I tried changing the audio card in the emulator, but had no luck | 04:49 |
| dm8tbr | It worked for me back then | 04:49 |
| sigmaorion | what would the audio module be in the emulator? | 04:49 |
| sigmaorion | I mean, it should be there when doing "lsmod", right? | 04:50 |
| dm8tbr | IIRC I used the default | 04:50 |
| sigmaorion | maybe some issue with the VB version :/ | 04:51 |
| sigmaorion | maybe because I'm running the SDK in Windows? (yeah, I know, awful!) | 04:52 |
| sigmaorion | well, no worries about that for now :). What I'm really wondering how to fix is the following: My QML app has a page where there is a grid of colored rectangles (if you look for bbSmile game in Ovi Store, you will see what I'm talking about). Those rectangles rotate a random angle when tapped... when the rectangles in the top rotate, they will cover the pulley menu!!! | 04:56 |
| sigmaorion | so, how do I "cropp" the content of my QML page (or send it backwards) so that it won't cover the pulley menu? | 04:56 |
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| sigmaorion | Pulley menu = PullDownMenu QML element :) | 04:59 |
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| woweric | you can change the example code | 05:34 |
| woweric | silicacomponentgallery | 05:37 |
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| sigmaorion | woweric, was that for me? | 05:50 |
| woweric | can you find the example code? | 05:55 |
| sigmaorion | woweric, yeap, I can find it | 05:55 |
| sigmaorion | which page should I look in? | 05:56 |
| woweric | url C:\SailfishOS\examples\SailfishOS\componentgallery\pages\ | 05:56 |
| woweric | or you can man a sailfishos new example | 05:56 |
| sigmaorion | woweric, well, yeap, but I don't see the point, sorry... are you answering me about the content of my page getting over the pullDownMenu content? | 05:58 |
| woweric | http://paste.kde.org/738434/ like this | 05:59 |
| woweric | use anchors.fill: parent | 05:59 |
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| sigmaorion | woweric, yeap, that's the way it is done, but the content of the SilicaFlickable element is getting out of bounds... | 06:01 |
| sigmaorion | I have a Grid element inside SilicaFlickable, where each element of the Grid is a rectangle | 06:02 |
| sigmaorion | when the rectables in the top rox scale up, they cover the pullDownMenu | 06:03 |
| sigmaorion | *rectangles | 06:03 |
| woweric | let me see you code,in paste.kde.org | 06:03 |
| sigmaorion | yeap, sure | 06:04 |
| Stskeeps | morn all | 06:05 |
| woweric | hi sts. | 06:05 |
| sigmaorion | Stskeeps, morning! | 06:06 |
| sigmaorion | woweric, http://paste.kde.org/738440/ | 06:06 |
| sigmaorion | woweric, each rectangle has a mouseArea and when it is "clicked" it just makes the rectangle to scale, rotate, change color, etc randomly | 06:08 |
| sigmaorion | so, after clicking the rectangles in the top, some of them gets larger (scaling up), which is the desired behavior, that is what the app is about... but the problem is that the rectangles will cover the menu in the top. | 06:09 |
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| woweric | sorry,you can find Stsleeps for help | 06:10 |
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| sigmaorion | I tried making the Grid children of a rectangle, thinking it would probably limit the area where the rectangles are drawn, but it didn't work... | 06:10 |
| sigmaorion | woweric, thank you for your time! | 06:11 |
| sigmaorion | it's 3:11am in the morning here, I'm out to bed, hehe | 06:11 |
| sigmaorion | see you guys, bye | 06:11 |
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| sigmaorion | woweric, I have set clip property of the parent rectangle (the one that fills the screen) to true and now it works just fine! :) | 06:14 |
| sigmaorion | hehe | 06:14 |
| sigmaorion | now I will sleep more happilly... cheers! | 06:15 |
| woweric | :) it is good news | 06:15 |
| sigmaorion | woweric, yeap, thanks for your help! See you, bye bye! | 06:16 |
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| pavi | Just installed the SDK . But the VM is not starting It says MER SDK connecton refused | 07:58 |
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| pavi | Is there no one here who helps with running the SDK ? | 08:03 |
| pavi | I am running it on Open Suse 12.3 | 08:03 |
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| Kondou | pavi: did you start the build-machine? | 08:08 |
| pavi | Kondou, you mean the VM ? | 08:08 |
| Kondou | yeah, the build-vm | 08:08 |
| rcg | pavi, there are two vms | 08:10 |
| pavi | Kondou, I thought the Qt designer startd the VM | 08:10 |
| rcg | thats what Kondou is trying to say | 08:10 |
| Kondou | what rcg says | 08:10 |
| pavi | should it be explicitly started | 08:10 |
| rcg | you have the sdk vm and the emulator vm | 08:10 |
| Kondou | yes | 08:10 |
| Kondou | first start the build vm | 08:10 |
| Kondou | then the emulator | 08:10 |
| Kondou | next time try looking into the FAQ btw x) | 08:11 |
| Kondou | https://sailfishos.org/develop-faq.html | 08:11 |
| pavi | sorry for asking how do I start them ? If I run the first program it tries starting it and fails saying that it cant connect | 08:11 |
| rcg | pavi, there should be buttons for starting the vms in the left bar (pretty close to the bottom) | 08:13 |
| rcg | in qtcreator, that is | 08:14 |
| pavi | rcg, yeah but it still says Mer SDK connection refused | 08:14 |
| pavi | or sailfishos emulator connection refused | 08:15 |
| rcg | hmm ic | 08:15 |
| pavi | rcg, Kondou I went to tools ->options ->devices where I ran the test and it says SSH connection failure: Connection refused | 08:19 |
| pavi | looks like some permission issue ? | 08:19 |
| rcg | pavi, sorry, am pretty busy right now, you could try to look if you find instructions to ssh into the vm from the shell | 08:21 |
| pavi | rcg, yeah thanks . will search for them | 08:21 |
| rcg | once you can log in from the shell, the connection for qtcreator should work as well | 08:21 |
| pavi | Hopefully there is a wiki | 08:21 |
| rcg | i assume either that the vms are not in knownhosts or that the permissions on the mer-sdk ssh keypair are not correct | 08:22 |
| pavi | Should the MER sdk be running already as some ssh service ? | 08:23 |
| rcg | the vms should be running | 08:25 |
| rcg | you connect to localhost on either port 2222 (sdk) or 2223 (emulator) | 08:25 |
| rcg | ssh -p 2222 -i ~/.ssh/mer-qt-creator-rsa root@localhost | 08:26 |
| rcg | e.g. | 08:26 |
| rcg | the vms must be running of course | 08:26 |
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| pavi | ok | 08:27 |
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| pavi | rcg, The VMs are not running at all , so no point in SShing to them . How do I start them ? virtual box says that both devices are shut down and I dont have permissions to sstart them | 09:04 |
| pavi | Is -rw-r--r-- the correct permission for the keys? | 09:11 |
| rcg | pavi, oh, so the problem seems to be even already in virtualbox | 09:23 |
| pavi | rcg, kontio thanks solved it | 09:23 |
| rcg | ah great :) | 09:23 |
| pavi | its because of opensuse and virtual box errors | 09:23 |
| pavi | Have to run it as root | 09:24 |
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| rcg | hmm.. i'm sure that the settings can be adjusted such that it's not required to run as root | 09:48 |
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| achipa | just wondering, is the sailfishos alpha sdk supposed to work anywhere outside the default install path? I figured it has issues when the project dir is outside of home, but it seems the sdk dir itself is picky, too | 10:04 |
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| fk_lx | achipa: best to report that on sailfish-devel mailing list | 10:05 |
| achipa | Well it's an alpha sdk so I'm just curious... it crimps my chroot-based dev setup, that's all | 10:07 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | achipa: I missed it, what's the problem ? | 10:07 |
| achipa | install SDK any place *other* that ~/SailfishOS and it still somehow manages to have the ~/SailfishOS paths in configs and the tooling setup | 10:08 |
| achipa | might be that it's the chroot confusing it, that's why I'm asking | 10:08 |
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| wower | hi | 12:25 |
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| wower | the emulator sometime is unusually to open.must stop it and try again | 12:48 |
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