| chriadam | nothing good ever came of staring into the mouth of a gift-horse :-P | 00:01 |
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| chriadam | I never really understood that saying. Is it to look at the teeth of the horse so you know how old it is? | 00:02 |
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| covox | I thought it was so you could determine if he's either got peanut butter on his gums or if he's a real talking horse | 00:03 |
| chriadam | ahah! | 00:04 |
| chriadam | makes sense now ;-) | 00:04 |
| ljp | chriadam: yes, that or the trojan horse thing | 00:04 |
| chriadam | too high to look in its mouth | 00:05 |
| chriadam | well, maybe from the walls or something. | 00:05 |
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| situ | Morning | 05:41 |
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| MFaro-Tusino | how's everyone? | 12:57 |
| Stskeeps | good, thanks | 12:58 |
| MFaro-Tusino | what's new on the great sea? (Sorry for the bad attempt at a Sailfish joke :p ) | 12:59 |
| Stskeeps | sailors sitting around a table, hacking | 13:00 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 13:00 |
| MFaro-Tusino | YAY! Just what I like! | 13:00 |
| MFaro-Tusino | Any new hardware adapted lately? | 13:00 |
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| Stskeeps | hehe, ;) | 13:01 |
| MFaro-Tusino | Good man :D | 13:01 |
| MFaro-Tusino | Anyone here good with getting Qt Creator set up for BB10 ( I know its the wrong place but It will make porting efforts a lot easier - Harmattan > Sailfish >BB10) | 13:02 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | MFaro-Tusino: http://qt-project.org/wiki/Setting-up-Qt-Creator-for-BlackBerry-and-QNX | 13:17 |
| MFaro-Tusino | Thanks Lucien :D | 13:18 |
| MFaro-Tusino | There isn't a Sailfish plugin yet for 2.7 right? | 13:26 |
| MFaro-Tusino | s/2.7/QtC 2.7 | 13:26 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | use QtC shipped with Sailfish OS SDK | 14:25 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | should work | 14:25 |
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| Hartzi | Sfiet_Konstantin: why there are no qml designer in sailfish sdk? | 14:55 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Hartzi: dunno | 14:55 |
| Hartzi | is the sdk too alpha atm and designer will be added later? | 14:56 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | not sure | 14:57 |
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| Hartzi | is here anyone who is sure? | 14:58 |
| Yaniel | probably, but they won't tell | 14:58 |
| Hartzi | they should tell | 14:59 |
| Yaniel | I assume they will add it | 14:59 |
| Hartzi | otherwise it's like giving a finger to the developer community | 15:00 |
| Yaniel | or change the setup to something that is simple to add to a "vanilla" qt creator | 15:00 |
| Jonni | nobody in real life uses designer to develop qml | 15:00 |
| Yaniel | s/qt creator/qt setup | 15:00 |
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| Hartzi | Jonni: dont be so sure | 15:01 |
| MFaro-Tusino | I don't use designer, in fact in setting up Qt C 2.7 with BB10, I hate designer | 15:02 |
| MFaro-Tusino | Looking forward to seeing the Sailfish Plugin come out later | 15:02 |
| MFaro-Tusino | That will make everyone happy :d | 15:02 |
| Jonni | well anything more complex than helloworld has been pain earlier for designer. Unless digia has improved designer functionality lately, since its been a while since I last saw it. | 15:02 |
| Hartzi | Jonni: okay Nokia-version didn't even work | 15:03 |
| Hartzi | so i unterstand that no-one used it | 15:03 |
| Jonni | when you are doing pixel perfect ui, you dont use designer, since you quite often need to do some custom tricks and designed gets confused on those. | 15:05 |
| Hartzi | yes but it should work fine with basic things | 15:06 |
| Hartzi | and for lazy people | 15:06 |
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| Jonni | that said, QtC is opensource project, so you can fix and contribute on designer implementation :) | 15:07 |
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| Hartzi | :D | 15:07 |
| Hartzi | maybe i just put my trust in digia | 15:09 |
| Hartzi | but i think the hell will freeze faster than they'll make it work as it should | 15:09 |
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| sledges | digia announced new QtCreator version, boasting Designer to deal with QtQuick 2.0 along with the qt5 craze | 15:32 |
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| MFaro-Tusino | sailfish is a lot nicer to code for than bb10 (QML stand point) | 17:02 |
| MFaro-Tusino | maybe its because I'm yet to fully learn, not sure | 17:02 |
| MFaro-Tusino | but like ListView, so far all documentation shows its needs a XML file to dictate the model | 17:03 |
| ajalkane | It doesn't | 17:08 |
| ajalkane | You can do C++ model | 17:08 |
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| ajalkane | But that's not really the proper topic for this channel :) | 17:08 |
| MFaro-Tusino | No, i know. I was simply stating that to me, Sailfish > BB10 from a coding stand point (actually from every stand point but since I'm yet to use a device - is it fair to make that call? ) | 17:09 |
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| ajalkane | Well, I dislike BB's totally different QML model from the QtQuick one too. And I have the BB10 LE and regarding OS I like N9 more. So hopefully the same stands for Sailfish also. | 17:14 |
| ajalkane | That said, BB10's Cascades is not bad, but I think it's without good reason different from QtQuick. And the OS is nice too, but it didn't excite me. | 17:14 |
| MFaro-Tusino | I want the LE | 17:15 |
| MFaro-Tusino | Hopefully Vivek will come through and get me one | 17:15 |
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| ajalkane | It's a good looking phone. I haven't really used it much yet as mobile data doesn't work in Finland with it. | 17:15 |
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