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| situ | Morning | 04:56 |
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| Xruxa | are there some shortcut keys assigned to gestures? Bit tedious to use in the emulator with mouse :( | 06:10 |
| Stskeeps | are you using mouse or trackpad, out of curiousity? | 06:11 |
| Stskeeps | like, a real mouse :) | 06:11 |
| Xruxa | mouse. RU using a *real* mouse? :) | 06:16 |
| * Xruxa checking calendar, not 1.4. anymore | 06:16 | |
| Stskeeps | yes, i'm actually using a real mouse :P | 06:18 |
| Stskeeps | it's the peek gesture that causes most issues? | 06:18 |
| Stskeeps | or any of the other ones | 06:18 |
| Xruxa | any that starts at the screen borders | 06:18 |
| Xruxa | endlessly resizing the emulator window :( | 06:19 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, that's naturally not good | 06:19 |
| Stskeeps | i'll make a note about it on my whiteboard and talk to some people about it | 06:19 |
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| ishanc | woohoo.. im downloading the SDK for linux now :) | 06:24 |
| ishanc | i have an N9, will my test apps work there? | 06:24 |
| Stskeeps | one of the solutions can be to move the emulator out from virtualbox UI into one of it's one | 06:24 |
| Stskeeps | ishanc: currently the emulator in the SDK is the only target | 06:24 |
| Stskeeps | it's own, that is | 06:25 |
| ishanc | ah okay, thats fine :) | 06:25 |
| * ishanc loves meego! | 06:25 | |
| Stskeeps | Xruxa: besides the gesture issue, any other issues you found? | 06:25 |
| Stskeeps | (and the DNS/timeout problem) | 06:26 |
| Xruxa | there are no apps (except the Components) installed in the emulator, right? | 06:26 |
| Stskeeps | right, it's pretty bare | 06:26 |
| Stskeeps | there might be more in future as to assist in testing sharing methods or whichever | 06:27 |
| Xruxa | As the app does not seem to "install" on the emulator when run (I do not see its launcher icon afterwards) - I guess all the section on icons&packaging is not released yet (?) | 06:29 |
| Stskeeps | i'd have to have lbt fill in on that, but there's a packaging step that's not done in alpha sdk i think | 06:30 |
| Stskeeps | so that's why it doesn't appear, it just deploys to a temp directory | 06:30 |
| Xruxa | BTW good job guys, IMHO much better than BB10 SDK | 06:30 |
| Stskeeps | llvmpipe is damn awesome.. when you get it to work sanely | 06:30 |
| Xruxa | +1 | 06:30 |
| Stskeeps | it turned out that on some setups virtualbox slips through CPUID so it claims AVX instructions.. and then gives a illegal instruction when you try to actually use them | 06:31 |
| Stskeeps | we have to lobotomize llvm/mesa for that | 06:31 |
| covox | heh, I thought I detected a bit of dribble on my screen | 06:42 |
| * dm8tbr needs to have a look at the existing open source apps for sailfish | 06:45 | |
| dm8tbr | I need some inspiration to understand notifications better | 06:46 |
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| Nicd- | yay, SDK works on my laptop :) | 10:06 |
| Nicd- | though pretty laggy | 10:06 |
| Stskeeps | what specs of laptop? | 10:06 |
| Nicd- | MacBook2,1 - 2GHz Intel Core 2 Duo (4MB L2) - 2GB 667MHz DDR2 - Intel GMA 950 64MB shared | 10:08 |
| Nicd- | so not that hot | 10:08 |
| Stskeeps | what's laggy, the sdk, or emulator/build? | 10:09 |
| Nicd- | the emulator | 10:09 |
| Stskeeps | hmm, ok | 10:09 |
| Stskeeps | assign some more cores to it? | 10:09 |
| Nicd- | it doesn't fit on the screen anyway :P | 10:09 |
| Stskeeps | scroll | 10:09 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 10:09 |
| Nicd- | yeah, I didn't look into the settings | 10:09 |
| Nicd- | it died of a kernel panic with APIC the first time | 10:10 |
| Nicd- | but the next runs were fine | 10:10 |
| Nicd- | can the VM resample the screen to a smaller size? | 10:11 |
| Nicd- | I know it's ugly but I could at least see it all | 10:11 |
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| kontio | Nicd-: https://sailfishos.org/develop-faq.html -> " How do I scale it to the window size?" | 10:14 |
| rcg | Nicd-, you can scale the window | 10:17 |
| rcg | kontio, :D | 10:17 |
| Nicd- | kontio: ooh, thanks | 10:17 |
| kontio | :-) my laptop is also to narrow :-) | 10:17 |
| rcg | didn't knew there was even an faq entry for this.. stumbled across that totally by accident :) | 10:22 |
| rcg | shoulda remind myself to read faqs more often | 10:22 |
| Nicd- | http://files.nytsoi.net/lk8a.png -- hehe :) | 10:26 |
| kontio | yeah the FAQ are not that easy to find, somehow... lbt, see rcg comment ^ | 10:26 |
| lbt | kontio: agreed - we'd planned a site redesign but then decided to just do mac/win installers | 10:27 |
| lbt | aslani may know where we are on the site side | 10:28 |
| kontio | yeah even I knew that there are FAQ's now and was searching them, I had problems to find them, but agree the Win and Mac installer have higher prio :-) was just meant as a general feedback | 10:29 |
| rcg | aye, ic | 10:31 |
| rcg | well, i think i even found the faq but failed to read the scaling thing :) | 10:31 |
| rcg | but nvm ;) | 10:32 |
| rcg | bbl | 10:32 |
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| Nicd- | yaay scale mode: http://files.nytsoi.net/1zd3.png :D | 10:36 |
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| hkjh | hello | 12:46 |
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| k00pa | is it possible to use the os normally? | 12:59 |
| k00pa | or just the apps? | 12:59 |
| k00pa | also, it thinks that my emulator is down :/ | 13:00 |
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| k00pa | aah the build machine is different | 13:01 |
| k00pa | kk | 13:01 |
| k00pa | should have read the documentation before I started dicking around :P | 13:02 |
| hkjh | hello how i can changer home folder for sailfishsdk? | 13:18 |
| k00pa | hkjh: installion folder? | 13:20 |
| k00pa | most likely the easiest way to do that is to remove the sdk and reinstall | 13:22 |
| k00pa | and change the folder during the installion | 13:22 |
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| lbt | k00pa: np - it's for playing with | 13:29 |
| k00pa | yah | 13:29 |
| lbt | hkjh: ah, good to see you're on here - I don't check #jollamobile so much | 13:29 |
| lbt | plus it's sunny here so I was outside | 13:30 |
| lbt | very strange experience :D | 13:30 |
| hkjh | ：） | 13:33 |
| hkjh | tools-option-mer home folder | 13:33 |
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| hkjh | i cant chang it | 13:34 |
| Morpog | I heard that was a limitation of alpha sdk | 13:35 |
| hkjh | yep beta. | 13:36 |
| k00pa | hmm | 13:39 |
| k00pa | I have issue, my qml files seem not to do anything | 13:40 |
| k00pa | like I change them but the application doesn't change | 13:40 |
| Morpog | closed the application? | 13:40 |
| k00pa | yeah and recompiled and reran | 13:40 |
| k00pa | if I made mistakes in qml, does it give me compiler error or something? | 13:40 |
| Morpog | really closed, not just pushed away? | 13:40 |
| lbt | k00pa: are you using the green arrow on the left toolbar? | 13:40 |
| k00pa | yes | 13:41 |
| k00pa | and I really closed, hold and pressed the X | 13:41 |
| lbt | the red 'stop' button should work (below the editor pane) | 13:41 |
| lbt | check to make sure your QML is deployed | 13:41 |
| k00pa | yeah but do I really need to stop the emulator just to recompile the app? | 13:41 |
| lbt | no :) | 13:43 |
| k00pa | well how can I know if my qml is bad, or how to even reflect the changes on the application | 13:44 |
| hkjh | sailfish is use QtQuick 1.1？ qtq2.0 is ok？ | 13:45 |
| lbt | hkjh: no, 1.1 only | 13:45 |
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| lbt | k00pa: so I'm not sure what code you're runnign | 13:45 |
| k00pa | just the basic hello world app | 13:45 |
| lbt | normally you edit the qml, redploy and it works | 13:45 |
| k00pa | but changed some qml | 13:45 |
| k00pa | yeah.. | 13:45 |
| k00pa | but how I can spot if I make mistake in qml | 13:45 |
| k00pa | does it give errors about those? | 13:46 |
| lbt | yes it will | 13:46 |
| lbt | both in the editor - highlights | 13:46 |
| lbt | and in the application output window | 13:46 |
| lbt | (Alt+3 ) | 13:47 |
| k00pa | hmmr | 13:48 |
| k00pa | hmm | 13:50 |
| k00pa | if I make invalid code | 13:50 |
| k00pa | in qml, it doesn't report it at all | 13:51 |
| k00pa | well okey if I messup the tokens then | 13:51 |
| k00pa | yeeeh now I get it | 13:52 |
| lbt | what was confusing? | 13:52 |
| k00pa | qml :D | 13:54 |
| hkjh | Project ERROR: Could not connect to Mer SDK Virtual Machine. The remote host closed the connection | 13:54 |
| hkjh | what happen | 13:54 |
| k00pa | and the fact that it didn't update it correctly or something | 13:54 |
| k00pa | but that could be just because my qml was so baad... :P need to read the docs more next time | 13:55 |
| lbt | k00pa: try making a simple change first - just to verify that your redeploy works | 13:56 |
| lbt | change a text string | 13:56 |
| hkjh | me too | 13:56 |
| hkjh | i change the a text string | 13:56 |
| k00pa | lbt: yeh, I think I went too far when I rebuild the whole interface :D | 13:57 |
| lbt | hehe | 13:57 |
| k00pa | is there a way to test the interface before deploying? | 13:57 |
| lbt | hkjh: so are your emulator and build engines running | 13:57 |
| hkjh | but the application doesn't change | 13:57 |
| lbt | k00pa: no, deploying is the test | 13:57 |
| k00pa | allright, going slower next time | 13:58 |
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| hkjh | lbt emulator and build engines running yes | 13:58 |
| lbt | hkjh: there are 2 green 'run' buttons - one big and one small | 13:58 |
| lbt | which do you use? | 13:58 |
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| hkjh | yes one button is run one gree button is debug | 14:00 |
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| hkjh | first button | 14:01 |
| lbt | ok | 14:01 |
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| hkjh | i reboot mer sdk and sailfis sdk ,it is okl | 14:15 |
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| lbt | hkjh: that's not expected and shouldn't be needed | 14:23 |
| hkjh | qtq 2.0 is perfect!:) | 14:29 |
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| karalaine | hi, could someone help with following error in sdk in windows: | 16:34 |
| karalaine | SOFT ASSERT: "!path.isEmpty()" in file ..\..\..\..\src\libs\virtualbox\vboxmanager.cpp, line 39 | 16:34 |
| karalaine | when trying to run first project | 16:35 |
| karalaine | and after that "MerSDK is not running" althou it is | 16:35 |
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| karalaine | nvm, got it running by letting virtualbox running and restarting qtcreator | 17:02 |
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| miksuh | hmm looks like Sailfish sdk for the windows and osx has been released. | 17:57 |
| miksuh | was any updates to linux version released at the same time? | 17:58 |
| MSameer | i don't think there is an updated linux version but i am not sure. lbt would know more | 17:59 |
| MSameer | but yeah, windows and mac are there now :-) | 17:59 |
| lbt | correct; no linux update | 18:00 |
| lbt | karalaine: could you report that to the mailing list please :) | 18:00 |
| karalaine | lbt: sure thing | 18:03 |
| lbt | ty | 18:04 |
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| miksuh | Jollain täytyy olla hiukka yli,äärästä rahaa, jos tämmösen hommaa: | 18:26 |
| miksuh | http://yle.fi/uutiset/maailman_suurin_huvijahti_laskettiin_vesille_-_suuri_mysteeri/6567752?origin=rss | 18:26 |
| miksuh | aika älytöndamn | 18:27 |
| miksuh | sorry | 18:27 |
| miksuh | damn | 18:27 |
| miksuh | wrong channel | 18:27 |
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| ahiemstra | hm.PC.X5 | 18:39 |
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| ahiemstra | buh, crap | 18:40 |
| miksuh | if you saw that link, sorry, I pasted to wrong channel :) | 18:48 |
| miksuh | and then my internet connection stopped to work :P | 18:48 |
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| rawtaz | hi | 23:30 |
| rawtaz | i installed and fired up the SDK (Qt Creator) and the gallery example project. it doesnt run. this is on os x | 23:30 |
| rawtaz | i installed the SDK in /Applications/SailfishOS and the error i get when clicking the run button in with that example project is "Project is outside of shared home '/Users/rawtaz'" | 23:31 |
| rawtaz | surely i mustn't relocate/install the SDK under my home folder? that would be silly, at least in OS X | 23:32 |
| rawtaz | it's very common to have applications in /Applications | 23:32 |
| rawtaz | i did google around but havent found much on this error | 23:32 |
| GentSir | rawtaz, I'm fairly certain it does have to be under your home folder. It does on Linux, so I'd assume so on OSX as well | 23:50 |
| rawtaz | GentSir: do you know a practial reason for that? i dont think i have ever encountered an app before that requires you install it under your home dir | 23:51 |
| rawtaz | i mean seriously.. | 23:52 |
| rawtaz | wtf | 23:52 |
| rawtaz | and if it is just about the project location, then that too shouldnt matter | 23:52 |
| rawtaz | if i want to place them on an external harddrive i should be able to do so | 23:52 |
| GentSir | It IS an alpha release. I'm just small fry around here, but that's the impression I got. The SDK actually mounts your home directory and all your projects have to be on it | 23:52 |
| GentSir | Just blame me, I had nothing to do with that :/ | 23:52 |
| GentSir | *don't blame me | 23:53 |
| rawtaz | yeah i blame you for this. totallt :-) | 23:53 |
| rawtaz | totally* | 23:53 |
| GentSir | haha | 23:53 |
| rawtaz | lol | 23:53 |
| rawtaz | well i htink i will mail them and see :) | 23:53 |
| GentSir | Well, I believe everything has to be under your home directory | 23:53 |
| GentSir | It isn't exactly a final product, so some issues like that are to be expected | 23:53 |
| rawtaz | yeh | 23:53 |
| rawtaz | its fine, im in no hurry | 23:54 |
| rawtaz | so they will have time to fix this :) | 23:54 |
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