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| edgars_ | yoo! | 07:25 |
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| edgars | when we will see 1st phone with sailfish? :) | 07:28 |
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| jake9xx | edgars: when it's ready, pls be patient :) | 07:49 |
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| niqt | morning | 07:55 |
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| Yaniel | wow, iekku has been up early today | 07:58 |
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| pyksy | isn't she always up early | 08:03 |
| iekku | pyksy, :O | 08:04 |
| iekku | Yaniel, little bit earlier than normall | 08:04 |
| pyksy | iekku: what, is my memory failing me?-) | 08:04 |
| iekku | pyksy, usually i wake 5:40 | 08:04 |
| iekku | this morning 4:30 | 08:04 |
| pyksy | iekku: ouch | 08:05 |
| iekku | needed to make coffee to wife and wake him up :) | 08:06 |
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| pyksy | iekku: errr did he actually need to wake up so early or was it because you didn't want to get out of bed alone?-) | 08:08 |
| iekku | he woke up finally at 5:10 , 30 minutes later than he was supposed to wake | 08:09 |
| Yaniel | wife, he? | 08:09 |
| pyksy | hahah a true morning person, just like me | 08:09 |
| iekku | Yaniel, yes, i call my husband as a wife | 08:09 |
| Yaniel | ah | 08:09 |
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| iekku | pyksy, i haven't notice earlier that you have joined here :) welcome | 08:27 |
| pyksy | iekku: thanks. i joined when you published the alpha sdk and tested my old qt project on it, the porting process was a breeze. | 08:28 |
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| iekku | pyksy, ah, that's why i didn't notice. was bit busy that week | 08:29 |
| pyksy | iekku: i bet you were :) | 08:30 |
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| iekku | pyksy, when we can wait more projects from you? :P | 08:31 |
| pyksy | iekku: you never know ;) | 08:33 |
| iekku | :D | 08:34 |
| iekku | maybe i should send you finally those stickers :P | 08:34 |
| pyksy | iekku: hahah yes you should, i've been waiting for your letter for ages :D | 08:34 |
| iekku | :oops: | 08:35 |
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| edgars | jake9xx: can't wait :/ my old htc desire is almost dead | 09:20 |
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| vgrade_ | lbt: did you see the note about /home/user , looks like some harmatten apps assume that exists | 11:18 |
| lbt | silly apps | 11:18 |
| Stskeeps | yes, they're broken if they rely on that | 11:18 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 11:18 |
| lbt | it's /home/nemo of course! | 11:18 |
| lbt | oh, wait | 11:19 |
| Stskeeps | getenv("HOME")... | 11:19 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 11:19 |
| * lbt looks at internal code and asks about people and glasshouses... | 11:21 | |
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| nsuffys | Hi all ! :) | 11:25 |
| lbt | o/ | 11:25 |
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| nsuffys | Very good news this morning : http://www.zdnet.com/jolla-hires-designers-behind-huawei-devices-nokia-e-series-for-sailfish-phone-7000012395/ :) | 11:29 |
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| sledges | +100 :) | 13:15 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | sledges: +100 on what ? :) | 13:17 |
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| sledges | last said phrase ;) | 13:23 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | sledges: :( I'm missing it | 13:24 |
| Yaniel | the news sure spread fast | 13:24 |
| sledges | 11:29 < nsuffys> Very good news this morning : | 13:24 |
| sledges | http://www.zdnet.com/jolla-hires-designers-behind-huawei-devices-nokia-e-series-for-sailfish-phone-7000012395/ :) | 13:24 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | sledges: but I hate the design of the Ascend P2 :( | 13:25 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | however, I loved the E71, E72, E63 etc | 13:25 |
| sledges | and since people in Jolla used to be behind Nokia ;) you'd expect more E-y design, fingers cross(compile)d :) | 13:26 |
| Yaniel | :D | 13:27 |
| sledges | I still hope they are going to go this direction: http://mynokiablog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/rm-742-4.jpg :) | 13:27 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | sledges: I'm not fan of QWERTY | 13:28 |
| nsuffys | :) | 13:28 |
| sledges | at least a bit ;) for the full edge-swipe screen | 13:28 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | not for the first phone | 13:28 |
| sledges | Sfiet_Konstantin, you're the only tech-savvy saying that :P | 13:28 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | because the N9 is simply beautiful | 13:28 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | sledges: I hate landscape QWERTY | 13:28 |
| sledges | yh, so is Lumia D: | 13:28 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | sledges: no, I'm talking about the overall design | 13:28 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | OS included | 13:28 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :P | 13:28 |
| sledges | we're talking about hw design now | 13:29 |
| sledges | :P | 13:29 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I prefer Palm PRE's portrait QWERTY style | 13:29 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | sledges: you cannot separate HW from SW | 13:29 |
| sledges | the article/news do ;P | 13:29 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and if you have something like silica | 13:29 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | sledges: sad | 13:29 |
| sledges | you'll get sailfish, that's a fact | 13:29 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | you need a shell (phone) that have the same style | 13:29 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | transparency maybe ? | 13:29 |
| sledges | so now in what clothes will you put it in? | 13:29 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | dimmed colors ? | 13:29 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | sledges: :D | 13:30 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I don't think that silica suits something like plastic (N9 - Galaxy etc) | 13:30 |
| sledges | jolla cannot replicate n9 (infringement, and even if they could, JOlla phone would not stand out of lumia's crowd and would get misinterpreted) | 13:30 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | sledges: +1 | 13:30 |
| sledges | I completely second N9 is a masterpiece of design | 13:30 |
| sledges | and overall HW/SW 'roundedness' is just spot on | 13:30 |
| sledges | whilst WP does not even support edge-side swipes | 13:30 |
| sledges | so lumias shape is redundant by SW design | 13:31 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | sledges: yeah | 13:31 |
| sledges | but we are where we are, I belive I saw even a Lauta's successor :) and posted that pix randomly (I dislike hw kb as well ;D just didn't say that out loud ) | 13:31 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | sledges: :D | 13:32 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I won't be against a Lauta successor either | 13:32 |
| sledges | I think I saw another nice picture, another concept model, lemme search around :) | 13:32 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :) | 13:32 |
| sledges | http://wallpapersget.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Nokia-Lumia-1001-Smartphones-Concept-Phone.jpg | 13:34 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | sledges: without WP of cause :D | 13:35 |
| sledges | :D | 13:35 |
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| sledges | still not the phone I had in mind, probably I dream that other one :D | 13:37 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I'm thinking about a partially transparent one :) | 13:37 |
| sledges | so Sfiet_Konstantin why do you dislike Ascend P2 ? | 13:37 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | something that was not done by any OEM | 13:37 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | sledges: let's say simply because it is "basic" | 13:38 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | lookts a bit like a S3 | 13:38 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | or basically like any cheap Android device | 13:38 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | of cause, the phone itself is not that bad, tried it at MWC | 13:38 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | but the design is ... meh | 13:38 |
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| suosaaski | I do think that those pics of some wp phones on infinitys website do look ok. Well, the phone in them, at least. :) | 13:50 |
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| sledges | and the edges don't look as sharp. Still hope for full roundedness on final Jolla product for convenient swipes :) | 13:53 |
| lbt | would you mind taking the jolla/infinity chat to #jollamobile? that way I don't miss sailfishos/sdk chat in the backlog :) | 13:53 |
| suosaaski | :) | 13:53 |
| sledges | yeah, already 4 times wanted to suggest that :)) however, what chat though lbt ? ;) | 13:54 |
| lbt | suosaaski: not picking on you btw | 13:54 |
| lbt | yeah - I keep seeing 'activity' and checking back... | 13:54 |
| suosaaski | (PS. The windows phone in the pics is not the Jolla phone, so I doubt it will look the same. But I do think it looks ok, so it is possible that they would be able to design a decent looking jolla phone, too.) | 13:54 |
| lbt | it is quiet - we need more SDK talk ... | 13:55 |
| sledges | ( suosaaski, +1 ) | 13:56 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | well | 13:56 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | if it is quiet in the SDK side, it means that everything works | 13:56 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | that's pretty much the case :P | 13:56 |
| * sledges gets facebook app flashback through my head, any developments on qfb->nemo-qml-plugins / Friends , Sfiet_Konstantin ? | 13:57 | |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | however, lbt or Stskeeps, do you think that we will get features like the BB10 emu, or QtSDK Nokia emu (aka emulating GPS, GSM network, orientation etc) ? | 13:57 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | sledges: sadly no :( I do not have much time, being sick most of the time + uni | 13:58 |
| lbt | Sfiet_Konstantin: we will - but not in the beta | 13:58 |
| sledges | ok. I currently have two choices - finalise Pandaboard HA for Nemo (Sage ?) or look into social apps/mw for sailfish | 13:58 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | sledges: well, look at chriadam|away's code on github | 13:59 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :) | 13:59 |
| sledges | yes, that's what I meant by saying that :) | 13:59 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | it is already pretty good I think | 13:59 |
| sledges | still remember mediating between you two :D | 13:59 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :D | 13:59 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | yeah but I really want to contribute to it but no time :(:(:( | 13:59 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I'm a bit mad about uni these days :D | 13:59 |
| sledges | mmmm, if QML is sort-of open-source (even when it's embedded in a binary), could I peep into Nokia FB Client intestines? ;) | 14:00 |
| Naranek | btw are there any potential PIM applications for sailfish? I'm just guessing that Jolla won't have enough resources to build one in house. | 14:00 |
| sledges | it will all pass Sfiet_Konstantin :) | 14:00 |
| sledges | Naranek, I believe Nemo's will be coded on | 14:00 |
| Stskeeps | define PIM | 14:01 |
| sledges | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_information_manager#Scope | 14:01 |
| sledges | :) | 14:01 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | sledges: nokia FB one is not on QML | 14:01 |
| sledges | 8-O | 14:01 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | it is based on meegotouch | 14:01 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | IIRC | 14:01 |
| VDVsx | Sfiet_Konstantin, no, is QML, same for twitter | 14:01 |
| sledges | looked qmly.. anyway, will be exciting :) | 14:01 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | VDVsx: :O | 14:01 |
| Naranek | yeah... the calendar is my main interest though | 14:02 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | because it feels very different in use | 14:02 |
| VDVsx | they are both quite "heavy" imo, better start somewhere :) | 14:02 |
| sledges | Naranek, qmlcalendar https://github.com/nemomobile/qmlcalendar | 14:02 |
| Naranek | thanks | 14:03 |
| Naranek | I'll check it out | 14:03 |
| sledges | I think Jolla will take what's best of Nemo, and add what's better :) | 14:03 |
| sledges | meanwhile it can be developed on, (hands-on try rite now - have Nemo running), whilst we are chatting here :)) | 14:03 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | sledges: you can even develop them inside the Sailfish SDK isn't it ? | 14:08 |
| sledges | O | 14:09 |
| sledges | I reckon so :) | 14:09 |
| sledges | I'd imagine Nemo being a sandbox - all the apps are already there, they do lack of integration, but for first dabbing around one could try integrating Contacts(People app) e.g. into Messages (qmlmessages) app :) etc. Surely all could be done even on Sailfish SDK+VM | 14:11 |
| Naranek | seems like a nice way to get to know the sailfish sdk as well | 14:14 |
| sledges | sure | 14:14 |
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