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| AdiGandhi | HI Dev's, I had a quick question regarding Dalvik RunTime on Nexus % (Hammerhead) | 02:44 |
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| AdiGandhi | Nexus5* | 02:44 |
| AdiGandhi | Do you know the status of the open source frame-work for Dalvik, where can I go and chack | 02:44 |
| AdiGandhi | where can I help? | 02:44 |
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| jcbjoe | AdiGandhi: does everything work on the n5 with sailfish ? | 03:22 |
| * jcbjoe is not a dev just wondering how the n5 works well with salifish | 03:22 | |
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| Aditya | No, I just got started with the developement | 04:02 |
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| alin | sledges: ping | 07:10 |
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| alin | sledges: alpha11 has .28 | 07:38 |
| carepack | morning!!! | 07:42 |
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| sledges | good morn!! | 08:07 |
| sledges | alin: m? http://images.devaamo.fi/sfe/hammerhead/alpha11/Jolla-1.1.4.29-hammerhead-armv7hl.urls | 08:07 |
| alin | sledges: I do not know I installed it and ssu lr | 08:13 |
| alin | showed .28 repos | 08:13 |
| sledges | .29 here | 08:13 |
| alin | sledges: ok maybe I messed up | 08:13 |
| sledges | is not early morning in Bucuresci :) | 08:17 |
| alin | sledges: i tried in early morning | 08:18 |
| sledges | ah:) | 08:18 |
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| alin | MSameer: question... is there any reason why the flash does not work? | 08:20 |
| sledges | alin: add /etc/gst-droid/gstdroidcamsrc.conf from https://github.com/foolab/gst-droid/blob/droidmedia/data/gstdroidcamsrc.conf | 08:24 |
| sledges | and flash will work | 08:24 |
| alin | sledges: ok then I did something wrong... I will look into it again | 08:24 |
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| alin | sledges: now that things more or less work | 08:37 |
| alin | sledges: maybe we shall think on a set of applications that shall work | 08:38 |
| alin | compass/torch/maps | 08:38 |
| alin | things like this | 08:38 |
| sledges | alin: or start working on OTA instead | 08:38 |
| sledges | of concentrating on workarounds | 08:38 |
| alin | OTA? what is that? | 08:38 |
| sledges | over-the-air update | 08:38 |
| alin | sledges: oooo mobile world bs... I do my updates over a cable | 08:39 |
| sledges | minimum %) | 08:39 |
| alin | sledges: but I do not understand the issue with that? | 08:39 |
| alin | sledges: rolling linux existed for years now even the troubleweed works | 08:39 |
| sledges | kernel wouldn't flash | 08:40 |
| sledges | now it should work because preinit's been sorted | 08:40 |
| sledges | needs test, and done | 08:40 |
| alin | sledges: that involves a lot of testing... | 08:42 |
| alin | sledges: you never know what apps repos and other merdre the user did | 08:42 |
| sledges | repo isolation | 08:42 |
| alin | sledges: he he... i am sure users will find a way to break it | 08:43 |
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| alin | sledges: that is fine with few repos... but with the approach from open repos and other home brewed crap | 08:44 |
| alin | can be tricky | 08:44 |
| zGrr | moin :) | 08:44 |
| sledges | 11:42 < sledges> repo isolation | 08:44 |
| alin | I think some fallacy happened when you allowed both harbour and obs | 08:45 |
| alin | sledges: yes that is fine... and if you break app k from openrepos y then users will complain like hell | 08:45 |
| alin | despite the only thing you did not account for was their idiocy... | 08:45 |
| sledges | alin: 5th page warning box: http://releases.sailfishos.org/sfe/SailfishOS-HardwareAdaptationDevelopmentKit-1.0.3.0.pdf | 08:46 |
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| alin | sledges: but you know actually having apps to work I do not think is irrelevant | 08:50 |
| sledges | ? | 08:50 |
| alin | sledges: once things work like is now people will complain about missing apps | 08:50 |
| sledges | if it breaks, users backup and reflash, already used to | 08:50 |
| alin | sledges: they removed the 1.5 icons... that is not nice | 08:53 |
| sledges | they? | 08:53 |
| alin | yes cause I suspect may be more than one... | 08:54 |
| alin | i do not see in zypper the 1.5 ambient | 08:54 |
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| sledges | alin: https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=814#c1 | 08:54 |
| merbot | Nemo bug 814 in Hybris-ing "if pixel_ratio is not from a predefined set, icons will default to 1.0 resolution" [Major,New] | 08:54 |
| alin | sledges: yes I read... one thing is default... which we have 2.0 | 08:56 |
| alin | other thing is 1.5 available | 08:56 |
| alin | the xul runner installed it but no luck | 09:00 |
| sledges | i tried too | 09:02 |
| sledges | same no luck, sound on black screen though | 09:02 |
| sledges | on youtube | 09:02 |
| sledges | and h264 videos spinner indefinitely | 09:02 |
| sledges | alin: 1.5 packages are available | 09:02 |
| alin | sledges: strange I cannot see them | 09:02 |
| sledges | zypper se 1.5 | 09:03 |
| sledges | did you refresh your repos? | 09:03 |
| alin | sledges: nope I did not refresh | 09:03 |
| alin | sledges: maybe this is the issue | 09:03 |
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| sledges | alin: could you please tweet an explanatory tweet that a11 is only a hotfix for jolla store and libhybris upgrade? | 09:04 |
| alin | sledges: done sorry | 09:08 |
| sledges | alin: thank you \o/ | 09:13 |
| alin | sledges: one issue i noticed | 09:14 |
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| alin | after a while the touch becomes untouchable | 09:14 |
| alin | i can get the notification screen up but I cannot touch anythingg | 09:15 |
| sledges | alin: pls find sequence to reproduce | 09:15 |
| sledges | sounds like device lock relics? | 09:15 |
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| alin | sledges: I cannot after few hours simply does not work happened 3-4 rimes | 09:34 |
| alin | never foudn a pattern | 09:34 |
| alin | but keep in mind if someone else complains | 09:35 |
| sledges | did it happen after excessive usage? | 09:35 |
| sledges | or was the phone just resting? | 09:35 |
| vgrade_ | I've seen this twice in two weeks | 09:38 |
| sledges | thanks vgrade_, ok, so not a super recent image | 09:39 |
| vgrade_ | have to double click power to enable lock screen to be bypassed to allow phone reboot | 09:39 |
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| alin | sledges: resting | 09:46 |
| vgrade_ | sledges: no , its the image before the split | 09:46 |
| alin | vgrade_: sledges seens in on the split image too | 09:47 |
| alin | I have no lock | 09:47 |
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| nh1402 | morning | 09:52 |
| sledges | hello nh1402 | 09:52 |
| nh1402 | hello sledges | 09:53 |
| sledges | nh1402: alpha11 is out | 09:55 |
| sledges | latest libhybris update and jolla store hotfix | 09:55 |
| sledges | tell the world the good news:) | 09:55 |
| nh1402 | I'll make a post right now. | 09:55 |
| sledges | cheers:) | 09:55 |
| sledges | alin: vgrade_: file a bug? | 09:57 |
| sledges | (i just closed a myriad of nexus5 bugs \o/ well done everyone!) | 09:57 |
| sledges | (and no, no pun intended ;)) | 09:57 |
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| nh1402 | just noticed in log someone was asking about open source dalvik runtime, whose willing to help is he still online? | 10:03 |
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| alin | sledges: will 2.0 have multiuser> | 10:40 |
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| sledges | alin: i see no motivation for that | 10:41 |
| sledges | and don't know the answer/can't tell:)) | 10:41 |
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| alin | sledges: now on the fllash think... that file may not be enough... it needs to be implemented in camera | 10:44 |
| sledges | alin: worked for Nokius_ | 10:45 |
| alin | sledges: ok now the 66k question.... why we do not ship that file? | 10:47 |
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| alin | sledges: wo\rks for me too... cool | 10:49 |
| alin | let us test other things | 10:49 |
| sledges | alin: we forgot | 10:49 |
| alin | sledges: good work nowadays... | 10:50 |
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| Nokius|mobile | sledges: i have no working flash ='( | 10:51 |
| Nokius|mobile | is on my list | 10:52 |
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| alin | Nokius|mobile: ok then I have | 10:55 |
| sledges | alin: new upstream: https://github.com/mer-hybris/droid-config-hammerhead | 10:55 |
| alin | sledges: I see no data is installed but I will not touch it | 10:55 |
| stephg | hm so I've found my /data but I apparently don't have a boot | 10:56 |
| sledges | alin: data? | 10:56 |
| stephg | is /fstab.qcom per device or is it the same everywhere | 10:56 |
| sledges | stephg: depends where it resides | 10:56 |
| sledges | can be multiples | 10:56 |
| alin | sledges: the folder data | 10:56 |
| alin | sledges: for gst-droid | 10:57 |
| stephg | sledges: ah oh actually I do have a udev path there let me see where that goes | 10:57 |
| alin | stephg: which has the conf | 10:57 |
| alin | sledges: ^ | 10:57 |
| sledges | alin: it should go into sparse/ | 10:57 |
| sledges | as it will be per-device | 10:57 |
| stephg | cool it appears I have a pair of blockdevices: /boot: mmcblk0p33 and /data mmcblk0p37 | 10:57 |
| sledges | for all those fancy effects you see | 10:57 |
| sledges | (and fine tunings) | 10:57 |
| alin | sledges: the ones from droidmedia? | 10:58 |
| Nokius|mobile | will ping u later than enjoy for vocations =) | 10:58 |
| sledges | alin: what? | 10:58 |
| sledges | Nokius|mobile: have a good one! | 10:58 |
| alin | sledges: https://github.com/foolab/gst-droid/tree/droidmedia/data | 10:58 |
| alin | sledges: installed the camera one by hand and works | 10:58 |
| sledges | alin: put https://github.com/foolab/gst-droid/blob/droidmedia/data/gstdroidcamsrc.conf under https://github.com/sledges/droid-config-hammerhead/tree/master/sparse | 10:59 |
| sledges | done | 10:59 |
| alin | sledges: ok I see | 10:59 |
| alin | sledges: now | 11:03 |
| alin | sledges: back to your oTA | 11:04 |
| alin | in principle the OTA shall not be complicated if all rpms are ok | 11:04 |
| alin | ssu up | 11:04 |
| alin | already does some nice jobs | 11:05 |
| alin | we shall temporarly disable all user repos | 11:05 |
| sledges | alin: version --dup disables (but i might be mistaken) | 11:06 |
| sledges | store-client certainly does isolation | 11:06 |
| sledges | but we can't get OTA through store | 11:06 |
| sledges | anyhow, needs testing | 11:06 |
| alin | sledges: yap | 11:07 |
| alin | sledges: so tell me the issues... zypper dup is a mess... | 11:07 |
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| alin | sledges: one needs to be 100% | 11:07 |
| alin | sledges: that the enabled repos are kosher... | 11:07 |
| alin | sledges: what I think can be an issue is that zypper dup may want to remove things if the deps indicate that | 11:08 |
| sledges | alin: can't tell you the issues; testing can tell you them | 11:08 |
| alin | sledges: i did zypper dup on normal linux for 10y now | 11:08 |
| alin | sledges: and can be tricky once other repos that the normal ones were added | 11:09 |
| sledges | ssu release $NEW_RELEASE | 11:09 |
| sledges | version --dup | 11:09 |
| sledges | flash 1.1.4.28 | 11:10 |
| sledges | and run | 11:10 |
| sledges | ssu release 1.1.4.29 | 11:10 |
| sledges | version --dup | 11:10 |
| sledges | then repeat the same with some dodgy repos | 11:10 |
| alin | sledges: Your device is now in release mode! | 11:11 |
| sledges | also possible to run ssu lr during version --dup process, to see if it isolates anything at all | 11:11 |
| alin | sledges: i have your experimental and mine | 11:11 |
| alin | are they dodgy enough? | 11:11 |
| sledges | they should be in | 11:11 |
| sledges | in case they have updates | 11:11 |
| alin | sledges: Changing release from 1.1.4.29 to 1.1.4.29 | 11:11 |
| sledges | 14:10 < sledges> flash 1.1.4.28 | 11:11 |
| sledges | 14:10 < sledges> and run | 11:11 |
| sledges | 14:10 < sledges> ssu release 1.1.4.29 | 11:11 |
| sledges | 14:10 < sledges> version --dup | 11:11 |
| sledges | and other repos should be disabled | 11:11 |
| sledges | create a conflicting repo | 11:11 |
| sledges | having something which updated from .28 to .29 | 11:12 |
| alin | sledges: ok.. this was good enough to show one issue | 11:12 |
| alin | sledges: http://paste.opensuse.org/35539769 | 11:12 |
| alin | sledges: now practically the device is dead | 11:12 |
| alin | sledges: since the dhdpolicy settings was not provided by any repo | 11:13 |
| sledges | perfect, first bug foudn;) | 11:14 |
| alin | sledges: yap but this is the one I was saying earlier... if you have a package installed from some random repo that does not exist anymore... insanity | 11:15 |
| alin | sledges: this is artificial since dhd shall come from the dhdrepo | 11:15 |
| sledges | of coure | 11:15 |
| sledges | that'ß why we'll build from obs | 11:16 |
| alin | sledges: yap | 11:16 |
| alin | sledges: anyhow this is the most common issue that one has with dup | 11:16 |
| stephg | how/where do TARGET_DEVICE and TARGET_KERNEL_CONFIG get picked up | 11:17 |
| stephg | I seem to be left only with 'generic' so my hybris-hal make fails | 11:17 |
| stephg | ignore me | 11:18 |
| stephg | I needed to breakfast again | 11:18 |
| * sledges goes to lunch | 11:19 | |
| stephg | (tho it is lunchtime, hohoho) | 11:19 |
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| * sledges smirks | 11:19 | |
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| yangm | I... can't install warehouse on the latest nexus 5 build? | 12:29 |
| sledges | yangm: did you try with alpha11 | 12:30 |
| sledges | (just out this morning) | 12:30 |
| yangm | oh | 12:30 |
| yangm | I'm using alpha10 | 12:30 |
| sledges | it has jolla store hotfix | 12:30 |
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| yangm | downloading it | 12:34 |
| yangm | also, is there a way to dirty-flash rom updates? | 12:34 |
| sledges | not at the moment | 12:35 |
| yangm | ok | 12:35 |
| sledges | there is a way to make backup and transfer all your data though | 12:35 |
| yangm | and also skip setup and tutorial? :) | 12:35 |
| sledges | skip tutorial by tapping on corners clockwise, starting with top-left | 12:36 |
| sledges | during very first screen | 12:36 |
| yangm | awesome | 12:37 |
| sledges | :) | 12:37 |
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| nh1402 | thank you, I've had to go through the tutorial every single time, shall I post it on xda for others to know too? | 12:39 |
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| iKozzz | o/ | 12:48 |
| klopsi-u3 | hi iKozzz | 12:48 |
| yangm | also, is the "choose jolla apps" working? mine just sits there, loading | 12:51 |
| iKozzz | sledges: i made img with mounted Android storage to /sdcard. but it still not accessable | 12:51 |
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| yangm | sorry for the n00b question but why do we need to flash sailfish on top of cyanogenmod? | 13:02 |
| iKozzz | sledges: but wait, No it actually mounted and 'nemo' can access it. Cool now i can see content through Mediaplayer an Gallery )) | 13:03 |
| iKozzz | yangm: because it uses "some drivers" from it | 13:04 |
| yangm | updated to alpha11 but still get "Fatal error: nothing provides libsailfishapp.so.1 needed by harbour-warehouse-0.3-30.armv7hl" | 13:05 |
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| yangm | iKozzz, and we can't bundle them for, let me guess, legal reasons? | 13:06 |
| iKozzz | i'm not an expert in this, maybe) | 13:06 |
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| yangm | luckily, nexus 9 has a drivers partition | 13:07 |
| yangm | this should have been standard for a long time | 13:07 |
| iKozzz | yangm: i suggest you to read HADK pdf to make your self more familiar with whole process | 13:08 |
| iKozzz | https://sailfishos.org/develop/hadk/ | 13:09 |
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| yangm | alpha9 installed warehouse with no problems whatsoever but seemed to have some audio issues, now alpha10/11 has some audio fixes but won't install warehouse ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | 13:10 |
| yangm | gonna read it | 13:10 |
| sledges | nh1402: why don't you just link them to http://bit.ly/port-user-faq | 13:14 |
| sledges | yangm: check that link too ^ (question 4 on warehouse - you should use that method to install) | 13:16 |
| iKozzz | sledges: how did you fix mp3 ? I'm missing it in my IMG (cameraplus is working), or please tell me how to debug | 13:18 |
| sledges | iKozzz: when did you build it/which .zip? | 13:18 |
| sledges | you need to update to latest libhybris | 13:18 |
| iKozzz | today | 13:18 |
| yangm | nvm | 13:19 |
| yangm | installing any jolla store app fixed the error | 13:19 |
| sledges | cool | 13:22 |
| iKozzz | sledges: i added 2 lines to init-script and built "mkdir /target/sdcardmount --bind /data/media/0 /target/sdcard" | 13:22 |
| sledges | iKozzz: perfect, now how to make it per-device? ;) because not every device will have /data/media/0 ... :/ | 13:22 |
| iKozzz | then ln -s when booted | 13:22 |
| sledges | ln -s to where? | 13:23 |
| nh1402 | sledges: done | 13:23 |
| sledges | nh1402: cool | 13:23 |
| iKozzz | [nemo@Jolla ~]$ ln -s /sdcard/Music/ /home/nemo/Music/ | 13:23 |
| iKozzz | [nemo@Jolla ~]$ ln -s /sdcard/Pictures/ /home/nemo/Pictures/ | 13:23 |
| sledges | iKozzz: aaaa | 13:23 |
| iKozzz | [nemo@Jolla ~]$ ln -s /sdcard/DCIM/ /home/nemo/Pictures/ | 13:23 |
| yangm | CuteSpot won't work still, "Fatal error: harbour-cutespot-1.5.4-1.armv7hl requires qt5-qtmultimedia-plugin-audio-pulseaudio, but this requirement cannot be provided" | 13:24 |
| yangm | even though audio works with some random radio app from jolla store | 13:24 |
| iKozzz | sledges: at least we have it on hammerhead) | 13:25 |
| nh1402 | screenshots should really be built-in, but there are of course more important things to work on. | 13:25 |
| yangm | yep, a power menu wouldn't hurt anyone | 13:26 |
| sledges | iKozzz: but in this way you overwrite your current content | 13:26 |
| sledges | it's good that all goes into same place, but probably ln -s /sdcard/ /home/nemo/from_android | 13:27 |
| sledges | would work too | 13:27 |
| sledges | iKozzz: and probably your method would break camera and others, as it could no longer write to Pictures | 13:29 |
| iKozzz | you mean Adroid side? | 13:30 |
| sledges | sailfish side | 13:31 |
| iKozzz | i took a picture just now on camera plus and it stored on SF | 13:31 |
| sledges | as /home/nemo/Pictures/ becomes no longer writeable | 13:31 |
| iKozzz | ls /home/nemo/Pictures/Camera/ | 13:32 |
| iKozzz | has my photo | 13:32 |
| sledges | did you chmod /data/media/0 ? | 13:32 |
| iKozzz | no | 13:32 |
| sledges | ls -ld /android/media/0/Pictures | 13:32 |
| iKozzz | when i did so a broke system again last time | 13:32 |
| iKozzz | i don't have /android folder | 13:33 |
| sledges | ls -ld /android/Pictures | 13:33 |
| sledges | ls -ld /sdcard/Pictures | 13:33 |
| iKozzz | no it's /sdcard =) | 13:34 |
| sledges | :p | 13:34 |
| iKozzz | ls -ld /sdcard/ | 13:34 |
| iKozzz | drwxrwxrwx 23 media_rw media_rw 4096 1970-09-04 07:40 /sdcard/ | 13:34 |
| sledges | and Pictures? | 13:34 |
| iKozzz | same for Pictures | 13:35 |
| sledges | so it's chmodded | 13:35 |
| sledges | it's not like that on standard layout | 13:35 |
| iKozzz | ls -ld /sdcard/Pictures/ | 13:35 |
| iKozzz | drwxrwxrwx 2 nemo media_rw 4096 1970-08-08 07:50 /sdcard/Pictures | 13:35 |
| sledges | that's why it works for you | 13:35 |
| sledges | drwxrwxr-x media_rw media_rw 2015-01-15 12:41 Pictures | 13:35 |
| sledges | on my n5 | 13:35 |
| iKozzz | so that is what i need | 13:36 |
| iKozzz | already chmoded | 13:36 |
| sledges | nemo is not in media_rw groups | 13:36 |
| sledges | could you confirm? | 13:36 |
| sledges | (type groups) | 13:36 |
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| iKozzz | have a "media" | 13:37 |
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| sledges | so it won't work if you chmod 775 | 13:40 |
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| iKozzz | if i make chmod i will broke the system | 13:41 |
| iKozzz | *brake | 13:41 |
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| nh1402 | break* | 13:42 |
| sledges | chmod 775 /sdcard/Pictures | 13:42 |
| sledges | that's safe | 13:42 |
| sledges | and it will not be able to store your taken photos anymore | 13:42 |
| sledges | my point being, that a fresh install on other devices won't be able to use your ln -s method | 13:42 |
| sledges | without careful chmodding | 13:43 |
| iKozzz | maybe, but it works with N5 as temporary solution | 13:44 |
| iKozzz | sledges: where is jolla's sdcard is located? | 13:45 |
| yangm | talking 'bout solutions, anyone got cutespot working on n5? | 13:45 |
| nh1402 | talking about solutions has anyone thought of any other ideas to get android app support working? ;) | 13:47 |
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| locusf | port art to wayland and glibc? | 13:49 |
| sledges | yangm: how are you installing cutespot ? | 13:49 |
| nh1402 | bad that's soo hard | 13:49 |
| yangm | dalvik should be good enough | 13:49 |
| locusf | theres no easy way out | 13:50 |
| yangm | sledges, tried from warehouse and pkcon | 13:50 |
| locusf | apkenv is only for jni apps | 13:50 |
| sledges | yangm: try zypper in qt5-qtmultimedia-plugin-audio-pulseaudio | 13:50 |
| yangm | zypper? | 13:50 |
| nh1402 | how about chroot into android with GUI?, a script could be written to show the icon in sailfish, and another script to chroot into android, and run the app. No idea how one would get out of chroot though. | 13:51 |
| sledges | yangm: solves deps better | 13:51 |
| sledges | yangm: or just pkcon install qt5-qtmultimedia-plugin-audio-pulseaudio | 13:52 |
| yangm | installed with zypper | 13:52 |
| yangm | sledges for president! | 13:54 |
| yangm | installed cutespot | 13:55 |
| * yangm wonders why warehouse didn't try to use zypper | 13:55 | |
| sledges | pkcon would've worked too | 13:55 |
| sledges | warehouse just didn't know how to resolve repo problem | 13:56 |
| yangm | when on alpha9 I got some nasty problems | 13:56 |
| yangm | it may be that alpha11 fixed it though | 13:56 |
| locusf | nh1402: would android run inside chroot? | 13:56 |
| vgrade_ | cutespot working here nicely, while stationary | 13:56 |
| nh1402 | locusf: This slideshare.net/tetsu.koba/android-on-ubuntu-for-developer suggests that it is possible. | 13:57 |
| yangm | why is ubuntu touch buggy and sailfish os smooth? | 14:00 |
| Stskeeps | built by company with a clue? | 14:00 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 14:00 |
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| yangm | lol | 14:03 |
| locusf | nh1402: init needs to be pid 1 for android, systemd takes it after switch_root instead | 14:05 |
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| nh1402 | locusf: pid being process id?, I'm guessing that means it won't be possible to chroot then. | 14:08 |
| locusf | nh1402: yes | 14:09 |
| locusf | its curious that myriad already had the capability of running dalvik on X in 2010, when it announced android apps compatibility in MeeGo | 14:16 |
| nh1402 | haven't they also demonstrated that it could work on iOS as well? | 14:16 |
| locusf | dunno about that | 14:17 |
| locusf | it was in 2011 sorry | 14:17 |
| nh1402 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YH26BQvhwRU | 14:19 |
| yangm | iOS apps in linux? this could be helpful even for android | 14:21 |
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| nh1402 | that's not what this is | 14:22 |
| nh1402 | there was a different project that does that, but like many, it was abandoned. | 14:23 |
| yangm | if we put together all devs that tried running iOS apps without iOS, we would have this thing running in weeks | 14:24 |
| yangm | or another abandoned project | 14:24 |
| yangm | dunno | 14:24 |
| locusf | myriad apparently had the effort significant enough to build a business on | 14:26 |
| locusf | licensing their software to Jolla is a good deal | 14:26 |
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| nh1402 | well Microsoft announced yesterday that with some slight modifications to both iOS and Android code, you could get those apps working on Windows 10. If you can find out exactly how that works then we could be on to something. | 14:26 |
| locusf | no | 14:27 |
| yangm | nope | 14:27 |
| nh1402 | exactly | 14:28 |
| yangm | windows apps are ported from iOS or android | 14:29 |
| yangm | not emulated iOS or android | 14:29 |
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| yangm | so we would need access to the source code of every app and mod it accordingly | 14:30 |
| locusf | as I said, art or dalvik on wayland glibc | 14:31 |
| nh1402 | I didn't say they were emulated. I said slight modifications to iOS and Android code. | 14:31 |
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| locusf | art would be good if dalvik some day gets deprecated | 14:32 |
| nh1402 | well it is kind of deprecated already with Android Lollipop. | 14:33 |
| yangm | yep | 14:33 |
| yangm | but just like gingerbread, it's going to float around forever | 14:33 |
| yangm | so we can work on dalvik first if it end up being easier | 14:34 |
| nh1402 | ART has a bit more native code conversion than Dalvik. | 14:35 |
| nh1402 | and won't require a JIT compiler | 14:36 |
| nh1402 | http://goo.gl/tRMMeI | 14:36 |
| yangm | how chrome is running android apps again? | 14:37 |
| locusf | archon | 14:38 |
| nh1402 | ARC, App Runtime for Chrome | 14:38 |
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| nh1402 | but there are a whole bunch of dependency issues that come along with building a version of chromium that works on wayland and ARM devices, and running it on Sailfish, and even after all that we could just find that it just won't work on chromium. | 14:40 |
| yangm | I see | 14:42 |
| nh1402 | so we are left with 2 options, activating Android via CM, or getting the Dalvik Runtime or to get ART to work on Sailfish, and I don't know how to go about doing that. | 14:44 |
| nh1402 | I have a little bit of experience programming with C++, so I could help if someone else who knew what they were doing would lead the project. | 14:47 |
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| locusf | yep thats the problem, nobody does :/ | 14:48 |
| nh1402 | I've just sent a PM to Tungstwenty as he helped with Xposed, as I can't contact rovo89. Let's see what happens. | 14:50 |
| lukedirtwalker | hm I recently saw the chromium running in the SailfishOS emulator https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8tjBpWCM0E but that is not arm. Anyway from the userame I would say it is this code: https://github.com/tworaz/quicksilver | 14:51 |
| yangm | I heard about this port too | 14:53 |
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| yangm | does it even compile to arm? | 14:55 |
| nh1402 | chromium in itself does | 14:56 |
| vrutkovs | disable_nacl=1 there would forbid running ARC afaik | 14:56 |
| vgrade_ | https://github.com/tworaz/quicksilver/commit/512c2d3b322d895f45653a5b0ae41ce356265a19#diff-e2d5a00791bce9a01f99bc6fd613a39dL146 looks like it disables native client | 14:56 |
| vgrade_ | vrutkovs: snap | 14:56 |
| vrutkovs | hivemind ;) | 14:56 |
| nh1402 | again if someone knew what they were doing, they could write the necessary code to enable NaCl along with support for Chrome Extensions | 14:58 |
| vgrade_ | nh =0 | 14:58 |
| vgrade_ | nh1402: =0 | 14:58 |
| nh1402 | is that supposed to be a shocked face? | 14:59 |
| yangm | [insert it's something meme here] | 14:59 |
| nh1402 | I don't understand what's going on | 14:59 |
| vgrade_ | disable_nacl=0 | 15:00 |
| nh1402 | it surely can't be that simple | 15:00 |
| locusf | cool, could somebody do a test build? | 15:00 |
| vgrade_ | nh1402: who knows | 15:01 |
| nh1402 | locusf: I have no idea how, and don't have linux installed on my laptop anymore. | 15:01 |
| vgrade_ | until one tries | 15:01 |
| yangm | http://www.openmobileww.com/#!acl/c1o3z | 15:02 |
| yangm | "Soonâ„¢" | 15:02 |
| nh1402 | yangm: That's another paid solution | 15:02 |
| nh1402 | that's how Tizen is getting Android app support irrc | 15:02 |
| locusf | I believe we've got ablemachined individuals here | 15:02 |
| nh1402 | iirc* | 15:03 |
| yangm | oh | 15:04 |
| vgrade_ | does the arc stuff work on chromium I've only seen it on chrome | 15:07 |
| locusf | good question | 15:08 |
| vgrade_ | "App Runtime for Chrome is a partially open-sourced project being developed by Google@ | 15:09 |
| yangm | partial open soure | 15:09 |
| yangm | partial open soure everywhere | 15:09 |
| yangm | *source | 15:09 |
| yangm | "Jolla should be offering AD as a paid add-on via the store, not expecting the community to whisk a decent alternative into reality from thin air." | 15:13 |
| yangm | some random guy @ xda | 15:13 |
| locusf | damn, dead end | 15:15 |
| nh1402 | well until ARC isn't fully open source we could use ARChon | 15:27 |
| yangm | what about http://wiki.maemo.org/Apkenv | 15:27 |
| nh1402 | https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/archon/ | 15:28 |
| nh1402 | this suggests that it should work on chromium | 15:28 |
| locusf | yangm: its jni native apps only, no jvm normal android apps | 15:34 |
| yangm | oh | 15:35 |
| nh1402 | whats the problem with using archon, or even arc welder? | 15:36 |
| yangm | looks like the main problem is getting native client and chromium playing nice | 15:37 |
| iKozzz | sledges: is libhybris/releases/0.0.5.2 is latest ? | 15:40 |
| sledges | yes | 15:40 |
| locusf | it just needs a mb2 run | 15:43 |
| iKozzz | i rebuild it by hand and now making new IMG with some magic for sdcard. Also tell me please how to debug my mp3 issue if it's not works | 15:43 |
| sledges | iKozzz: you can just sideload libhybris to old | 15:44 |
| sledges | no need for new img | 15:44 |
| locusf | if anyone else won't take it, I could take a spin saturday | 15:44 |
| nh1402 | locusf: about quicksilver and archon? | 15:44 |
| sledges | iKozzz: scp all libhybris* (except devel) packages to phone and do devel-su rpm -Uvh --force --oldpackage libhybris*.rpm | 15:44 |
| locusf | yeah | 15:44 |
| iKozzz | sledges: i made some changes for init-script, that's why i'm rebuilding | 15:45 |
| sledges | iKozzz: i have a feeling mount via init scripts is just for convenience | 15:46 |
| sledges | and security | 15:46 |
| sledges | but if you have no multirom, whole /data is mounted anyway | 15:46 |
| nh1402 | well looks like I still have the linux mint ISO, I could try and build it in virtualbox, but would need instructions of what to do | 15:46 |
| sledges | i feared that tracker may index all /data, if it's put somewhere like /sdcard | 15:46 |
| sledges | but it looks tracker is only interested in /home/nemo/* | 15:47 |
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| iKozzz | sledges: i'm trying this trick (mount --bind /data/media/0 /target/run/user/100000/media/sdcard) to see what's happen then | 15:49 |
| nh1402 | locusf: Do you have to build it in the Sailfish VM, or Linux Mint alright? | 15:49 |
| locusf | nh1402: you could use sfos mer sdk vm | 15:49 |
| sledges | iKozzz: i see what you did there. but this doesn't require any changes to init-scripts. you could revert them and do like #16 in http://bit.ly/port-user-faq | 15:50 |
| iKozzz | nh1402: i'll try to build quicksilver soon | 15:50 |
| nh1402 | iKozzz: thanks | 15:52 |
| iKozzz | sledges: this is not exactly what i want. I came from this to that point where i am now) I'd like to rech effect as it would be a native sdcard or so... | 15:53 |
| yangm | arc welder won't even open amazon app store -_- (tried on chromium at a mac) | 15:54 |
| sledges | iKozzz: yes, i see what you are trying to do. just saying that in the end it would all be equivalent if you did --bind in early init, or later during systemd boot. Moreover, i think /run (tmpfs) moutnpoints won't be ready so early in boot as you're trying to do. lastly, /sdcard is taken care by sdcard hotplug script | 15:56 |
| locusf | iKozzz: thanks | 15:56 |
| sledges | iKozzz: https://github.com/nemomobile/sd-utils | 15:57 |
| sledges | iKozzz: but tracker might pick /sdcard already, if it's contentful, so best of success for you! now you got all info you need (maybe even more:P) | 15:58 |
| iKozzz | sledges: thanks, i'll read more about it | 15:58 |
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| locusf | if I could get a proof-of-concept chromium with Android apps running on Raspberry Pi 2, for Happy Hacking Day, that would be quite nice :) | 16:03 |
| yangm | can't we just qemu the crap of stripped down android? | 16:03 |
| locusf | qemu doesn't run with wayland | 16:03 |
| iKozzz | sledges: my mp3 problem is still exist. How can i debug? Sorry i forgot that cmd (DEBUG "2") something | 16:11 |
| yangm | nh1402, how is the progress on this? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=59264010&postcount=14 | 16:16 |
| nh1402 | yangm: same place stuck at setup screen with no input, tried multiple things with no success | 16:19 |
| yangm | I think you can skip the setup screen but can you use any other kind of input? like a usb mouse? | 16:21 |
| yangm | maybe flash sailfish on top of an already set up cyanogenmod with adb enabled should give us more info | 16:22 |
| nh1402 | I don't have a usb OTG cable | 16:22 |
| nh1402 | I tried that and it wouldn't boot | 16:22 |
| yangm | copying data from another cyanogenmod partition also don't work? | 16:22 |
| nh1402 | what would that do? | 16:23 |
| yangm | so you could enable adb and go past install screen | 16:23 |
| sledges | iKozzz: are your droidmedia and gst-droid very latest? | 16:23 |
| iKozzz | don't know actually | 16:24 |
| iKozzz | i did repo sync today, is that it? | 16:24 |
| yangm | nh1402, have you documented your method? I think this is the best solution at the moment | 16:25 |
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| nh1402 | yangm: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1463633#post1463633 | 16:25 |
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| nh1402 | it's also at the bottom of the first post in the XDA thread | 16:27 |
| yangm | got flashing red light while booting cyanogenmod | 16:30 |
| nh1402 | on the odd occasion it doesn't work, but most of the time it does | 16:30 |
| nh1402 | yangm: Are you using Nexus 5? | 16:31 |
| yangm | yep | 16:31 |
| nh1402 | and the modified init.rc in the Sailfish ROM | 16:31 |
| nh1402 | renaming it to "init.rc" replacing the existing one | 16:32 |
| yangm | looks like I need to drink some coffee | 16:33 |
| yangm | just realized I forgot the init.rc | 16:33 |
| yangm | I mean, it's there but I forgot to rename it | 16:33 |
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| nh1402 | if you're running the commands through ssh then it'll break once it "boots", so you'll be on your own | 16:37 |
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| nh1402 | if you're running it from the phone, you'll need to stop lipstick and run surfaceflinger in the same line, otherwise you'll lose input to sailfish too. | 16:37 |
| nh1402 | before you boot into CM | 16:37 |
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| yangm | I'm going to google what's the adb authorized file and try to paste it drom my lollipop rom into cm | 16:40 |
| yangm | and see if I get adb access | 16:40 |
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| nh1402 | well if you're plugging it in the first time a dialog box should pop up on the phone saying to trust the RSA key thing, and you need to click OK, which you can't do since you don't have input | 16:41 |
| yangm | just like a ssh authorized_hosts | 16:42 |
| yangm | I didn't lose ssh access though | 16:43 |
| yangm | after booting cm | 16:43 |
| yangm | nh1402, did you use usb ssh or wireless ssh? | 16:44 |
| nh1402 | I'm not actually sure | 16:45 |
| yangm | I'm using wireless ssh | 16:46 |
| nh1402 | that would explain why it would break, how would you connect via usb ssh then? | 16:46 |
| nh1402 | I use usb ssh, but it still breaks | 16:48 |
| yangm | wireless ssh didn't break | 16:48 |
| yangm | but I just connected it to usb and adb sees no device | 16:49 |
| yangm | only if I knew where authorized RSA keys are stored at... | 16:54 |
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| nh1402 | where are you running adb devices? | 16:59 |
| nh1402 | if you're using the Android SDK, it recognises it as unauthorised | 17:00 |
| nh1402 | it doesn't recognise it on if you're running adb on the phone itself. | 17:00 |
| yangm | I'm running on a mac | 17:01 |
| yangm | [~]$ adb devices | 17:03 |
| yangm | List of devices attached | 17:03 |
| yangm | [~]$ | 17:03 |
| nh1402 | can't help you there I'm afraid | 17:03 |
| yangm | it may be because I booted sailfish without usb cable on | 17:05 |
| yangm | so it's stored at /data/misc/adb/adb_keys | 17:05 |
| yangm | you can authorize your pc on a working rom | 17:06 |
| yangm | and copy it to sailfish | 17:06 |
| phdeswer | yangm: your phone runs sailfish now? As it is booted in Sailfish? | 17:07 |
| phdeswer | Then there should not be adb | 17:07 |
| Stskeeps | btw, you guys who are hacking on android.. mce will hook the input devices so android can't get to them | 17:07 |
| yangm | phdeswer, we are booting cyanogenmod inside sailfish | 17:07 |
| phdeswer | yangm: ah ok. | 17:07 |
| phdeswer | Well sometimes adb devices works better when running as admin/root | 17:08 |
| nh1402 | Stskeeps: I did try to kill mce when booting into CM but that didn't make a difference either, still got no input. | 17:08 |
| phdeswer | But not sure who has control of the usb now, sailfish or cyanogenmod | 17:08 |
| phdeswer | And I do not know if on mac there are similar tools like lsusb to tell what is maybe connected | 17:08 |
| Stskeeps | nh1402: okay, then you might want to see if /dev input devices are where they're, as they'd be in android.. | 17:10 |
| Stskeeps | and see if there's any /etc hardcoding | 17:10 |
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| yangm | brightness adjustment works surprisingly well | 17:12 |
| nh1402 | Stskeeps: I'm afraid I don't know what that means | 17:12 |
| yangm | phdeswer, installing lsusb | 17:12 |
| Stskeeps | nh1402: okay.. try systemctl mask mce.service, reboot, and then the startup | 17:13 |
| yangm | lsusb gave me Bus 250 Device 006: ID 18d1:0afe Google Inc. Nexus 5 Serial: | 17:14 |
| phdeswer | Yep looks like cyanogenmod has it controlled. Not sure which interface that is though. | 17:15 |
| phdeswer | Depends what is set as default in /init.usb.rc usually | 17:16 |
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| yangm | I could try booting ubuntu, but then I would need to install ubuntu... | 17:16 |
| yangm | (on pc, to try adb) | 17:17 |
| phdeswer | yangm: Not sure if that would help much, if that usb interface on the phone is not set to adb anyway | 17:18 |
| yangm | because it seems to work with nh1402 "out of the box" | 17:18 |
| yangm | so even though there is no problem on my machine, it could be some kind of bizarre incompatibility | 17:19 |
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| yangm | funny to see sailfish and cyanogen fighting each other for the led control | 17:27 |
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| yangm | sailfish wants a blinking red for some reason, while cyanogen wants it light up because it's charging | 17:27 |
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| vgrade_ | locusf: looks like missing source in quicksilver git, https://build.merproject.org/package/live_build_log/home:vgrade:test/quicksilver/latest_armv7hl/armv8el | 17:33 |
| locusf | vgrade_: try to edit .spec to have ./configure | 17:35 |
| nh1402 | yangm: Well I copied the adb_keys file like you said, and did systemctl mask mce.service like Stskeeps said, but still nothing, same RSA fingerprint dialog box, and no input. | 17:37 |
| vgrade_ | locusf: wonder why it has extra path | 17:37 |
| yangm | nh1402, strange | 17:37 |
| nh1402 | here's hoping quicksilver works | 17:38 |
| locusf | vgrade_: did you mod the nacl? | 17:40 |
| vgrade_ | not yet, wanted to see how far I got building on OBS | 17:40 |
| locusf | ok | 17:40 |
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| yangm | nh1402, I think the android input daemon didn't even get a chance to start because when I hold power button it goes trough the jolla shutdown process | 17:47 |
| locusf | vgrade_: obviously build instructions required, shucks | 17:47 |
| nh1402 | it doesn't for me | 17:47 |
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| yangm | I mean, no spash screen, but red led and times are the same | 17:49 |
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| yangm | nh1402, as an alternative to copying the adbfile from another rom | 17:49 |
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| vgrade_ | locusf: looks like that repo is not complete and requires the main chromium repo https://github.com/martinbrook/quicksilver/blob/master/DEPS | 17:50 |
| nh1402 | yangm: What's the alternative to copying the adbfile from another rom? | 17:50 |
| yangm | you can, on your pc, cat ~/.android/adbkey.pub and paste the contents on the phone | 17:50 |
| vgrade_ | locusf: so a quick OBS build is not a quick win | 17:50 |
| yangm | I'm looking forward disabling authentication altogether | 17:51 |
| yangm | but this may work | 17:51 |
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| yangm | as long as the new file has the right permissions | 17:51 |
| yangm | -rw-r----- system shell 2163 2014-12-20 19:11 adb_keys | 17:52 |
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| nh1402 | yangm: Have you at least gotten to the same stage as me? | 17:55 |
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| yangm | nope, still trying to get adb to see my device | 17:55 |
| nh1402 | doesn't even say unauthorised? | 17:56 |
| yangm | it sees no device at all | 17:56 |
| nh1402 | I'm guessing you don't have another machine to test on | 17:57 |
| yangm | just another os x machine | 17:57 |
| yangm | I may install a linux/windows just to test this | 17:57 |
| vgrade_ | locusf: so it looks like qt_port directory should be placed in https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src.git/+/master | 17:58 |
| vgrade_ | and then the configure patches the main chromium source tree | 17:59 |
| vgrade_ | and builds | 17:59 |
| locusf | okay | 17:59 |
| vgrade_ | nh1402: are you following? | 18:00 |
| nh1402 | vgrade: as much as I understand, yes | 18:01 |
| vgrade_ | do you have a mer/sailfish build environment/ | 18:02 |
| nh1402 | MerSDK, and Sailfish VM from SDK | 18:02 |
| yangm | looks like booting sailfish with usb plugged on makes the device appear on adb | 18:03 |
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| yangm | going to have a lunch | 18:04 |
| vgrade_ | nh1402: if you grab https://github.com/tworaz/quicksilver/blob/master/DEPS | 18:04 |
| vgrade_ | then add the quicksilver repo into a directory called qt_port you may be able to build an rpm | 18:05 |
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| nh1402 | vgrade_: is it literally the command "grab https://github.com/tworaz/quicksilver/blob/master/DEPS" | 18:11 |
| locusf | :) | 18:14 |
| nh1402 | i'm having issues getting root on sailfishvm | 18:14 |
| nh1402 | using putty on windows | 18:15 |
| nh1402 | nm, finally in | 18:17 |
| vgrade_ | nh1402: probably better to use mersdk and a sailfish target, and no grab is not a command | 18:17 |
| vgrade_ | I meant get the chromium source from that git repo at that revision | 18:17 |
| tathhu | new events view on next update? :--------D | 18:17 |
| tathhu | Wtf | 18:17 |
| tathhu | I was like two days behind | 18:17 |
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| yangm | back | 18:23 |
| nh1402 | with my internet connection it's going to take a damn long time | 18:25 |
| vgrade_ | nh1402: you may want to use the gclient and use the DEPS file directly as this may limit the source it pulls | 18:26 |
| nh1402 | vgrade_: Unfortunately I don't know what that means | 18:27 |
| yangm | "Unfortunately I don't know what that means" is the history of my life, bro. | 18:28 |
| vgrade_ | nh1402: well I did not know about DEPS files until 10 mns ago, just did a quick google https://www.chromium.org/developers/how-tos/depottools | 18:28 |
| yangm | nh1402, so.. | 18:30 |
| yangm | I got adb using that method | 18:31 |
| yangm | now what we can do? | 18:31 |
| nh1402 | you can try and use adb to get input working | 18:31 |
| vgrade_ | locusf: sent the quicksilver guy an email | 18:31 |
| locusf | vgrade_: ok thanks for that :) | 18:32 |
| yangm | nh1402, "Unfortunately I don't know what that means" | 18:32 |
| yangm | I never tinkered with android this way | 18:32 |
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| nh1402 | neither have I, I've just been doing research to try and learn enough to get it working. | 18:32 |
| vgrade_ | locusf: thought I'd email first before jumping in | 18:34 |
| yangm | nh1402, gonna try this http://marian.schedenig.name/2014/07/03/remote-control-your-android-phone-through-adb/ | 18:34 |
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| yangm | nh1402, http://i.imgur.com/HXQOdJa.png | 18:45 |
| yangm | :D | 18:45 |
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| nh1402 | brb | 18:49 |
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| nh1402 | back | 19:05 |
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| nh1402 | yangm: anything? | 19:10 |
| yangm | nh1402, I got to remote control it over adb | 19:10 |
| yangm | and that's it | 19:10 |
| yangm | I don't know how to debug it | 19:10 |
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| yangm | what I do understand is: sailfish is holding input control | 19:12 |
| yangm | nh1402, how far have you gone? | 19:12 |
| nh1402 | I'm in the process trying to build quicksilver, trying to find out how to use gclient for the deps file | 19:13 |
| yangm | what it does? | 19:14 |
| yangm | did you get adb working? | 19:14 |
| nh1402 | I believe its gets the relevant files from the git repo, rather than clone the entire repo, and no I have not | 19:15 |
| yangm | have you tried alternative way? | 19:15 |
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| nh1402 | for adb? I have not. | 19:19 |
| yangm | my sailfish is acting strange after booting cyanogenmod | 19:29 |
| yangm | cutespot seems to stop playback after the first seconds of a song | 19:29 |
| yangm | SkyFm crashes at any station | 19:30 |
| nh1402 | well I can't get anywhere with gclient and the quicksilver deps file, and I can't seem to find how to get android input working from adb | 19:30 |
| nh1402 | yangm: how did you get back into sailfish, restart?, or kill surfaceflinger? | 19:31 |
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| yangm | reboot | 19:31 |
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| nh1402 | check top and see what's running | 19:32 |
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| yangm | I think it may be because of some config file being modified after booting cm | 19:33 |
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| yangm | nh1402, http://i.imgur.com/JCxzYgX.png | 19:34 |
| nh1402 | kill zygote | 19:35 |
| yangm | mm-qcamera-daemon is used by sailfish? | 19:35 |
| nh1402 | I'm not sure | 19:35 |
| yangm | [root@Jolla nemo]# pidof zygote | 19:37 |
| yangm | 8205 | 19:37 |
| yangm | [root@Jolla nemo]# kill -stop 8205 | 19:37 |
| yangm | bash: kill: (8205) - No such process | 19:37 |
| yangm | [root@Jolla nemo]# pidof zygote | 19:37 |
| yangm | 9227 | 19:37 |
| yangm | [root@Jolla nemo]# kill -stop 9227 | 19:37 |
| yangm | bash: kill: (9227) - No such process | 19:37 |
| yangm | uh... wat? | 19:37 |
| nh1402 | it wants to restart | 19:38 |
| nh1402 | setprop ctl.stop zygote | 19:38 |
| nh1402 | I think thats how it works | 19:38 |
| yangm | worked | 19:39 |
| yangm | what zygote is? | 19:39 |
| nh1402 | scientifically speaking its the first stage of a baby being developed | 19:41 |
| yangm | lol | 19:41 |
| nh1402 | so in Android it's what kickstarts the system server which in turn starts the dalvikvm and runs all the other services | 19:41 |
| yangm | oh | 19:43 |
| yangm | I wanted to start a playlist in spotify and start android to check how multitask is going | 19:43 |
| nh1402 | I don't think that's safe to do yet, they are kind of interlocked | 19:45 |
| yangm | oh | 19:45 |
| yangm | so... what and how we should debug? | 19:46 |
| nh1402 | need to find a way to switch input between sailfish and android | 19:48 |
| yangm | isn't there an easy way to forward the input? | 19:48 |
| nh1402 | From the research I've done it looks like Eventhub gets it from /dev/input/ much like how in Sailfish its done by mce | 19:48 |
| nh1402 | Eventhub being Androi | 19:48 |
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| nh1402 | Android* | 19:48 |
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| yangm | looks like booting cyanogen causes the system to run android process | 19:49 |
| nh1402 | well switching between Lipstick and Surfaceflinger wasn't supposed to be that cooperative to begin with. Input is going to be a struggle. | 19:49 |
| yangm | camera won't launch | 19:50 |
| yangm | and music playback have been having some hiccups | 19:50 |
| nh1402 | that's why I have an android testing sailfish rom in multirom, and a normal usage sailfish rom | 19:50 |
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| yangm | hehe | 19:51 |
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| yangm | nh1402, what if both OSes used lipstick or surfaceflinger? | 19:59 |
| nh1402 | I'm not sure, I think Sailfish uses surfaceflinger for debugging purposes but I don't think they want to stick with it because of Lipstick using Wayland, and I don't think Android will work with anything but surfaceflinger | 20:01 |
| yangm | but if it did, would it be easier to plug one inside another? | 20:03 |
| nh1402 | I think the input works independently of of them, well surfaceflinger does anyway. | 20:04 |
| yangm | have you already tried starting surfaceflinger as nemo? | 20:10 |
| yangm | don't seem to work | 20:11 |
| nh1402 | well using the original init.rc file, killing lipstick and starting surfaceflinger just results in an endless loop of the CM boot animation | 20:12 |
| yangm | what did you mod? | 20:12 |
| yangm | suddenly, I can't boot into cm anymore | 20:13 |
| nh1402 | yh, sometimes its flakey | 20:14 |
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| yangm | nh1402, what was needed to change in init.rc? | 20:18 |
| nh1402 | I enabled the android services that were disabled by sailfish | 20:19 |
| nh1402 | then surfaceflinger is the last piece of the puzzle, and then gets CM booting, with all the necessary services | 20:20 |
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| yangm | it's like watching DragonBall :P | 20:23 |
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| yangm | nh1402, what if you boot surfaceflinger from another cyanogen partition? | 20:41 |
| nh1402 | that might be safer, any ideas? | 20:42 |
| yangm | I don't know how multirom "partitioning" system works | 20:45 |
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| Nokius | evening o/ | 20:47 |
| nh1402 | evening | 20:47 |
| yangm | sup | 20:47 |
| Nokius | vgrade_: Oh the second smile in my face done by M$ today | 20:51 |
| Nokius | vgrade_: like this tweet | 20:51 |
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| yangm | nh1402, chrooting wasn't sucessful? | 21:16 |
| nh1402 | locusf, found that it wasn't possible | 21:17 |
| yangm | how come? | 21:19 |
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| nh1402 | conflict of process id, systemd and init want pid 1, but after booting into Sailfish systemd takes pid 1 | 21:20 |
| yangm | oh | 21:23 |
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| nh1402 | Well today was pretty good, yangm managed to get adb access when booting into CM, and ssh doesn't break if using ssh over wifi AND quicksilver is promising, if configured to play nice with NaCl then we could get Android app support working via ARChon | 21:35 |
| yangm | :) | 21:39 |
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| nh1402 | well that's me done for the night, I'll probably be around tomorrow. Good Night! | 21:59 |
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