| antranigv | the USB port | 00:00 |
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| klopsi-u3 | as if i needed to ask :/ | 00:00 |
| antranigv | :D | 00:00 |
| antranigv | well, I'll fix it as soon as I get to my home country | 00:00 |
| klopsi-u3 | good luck, i heard that can be very difficult | 00:01 |
| klopsi-u3 | where are you from? | 00:01 |
| antranigv | and buy a device, to port Sailfish on it, if my own devices wornt work | 00:01 |
| antranigv | Armenia | 00:01 |
| klopsi-u3 | maybe you would be interested in a droid 4 from ebay. it has a 5 row keyboard and 1GB ram | 00:01 |
| antranigv | cool | 00:01 |
| klopsi-u3 | also called droid xt894 | 00:02 |
| antranigv | klopsi-u3: where did you till now ? Mer is done ? | 00:02 |
| klopsi-u3 | where did I what? | 00:03 |
| antranigv | where did you get till now :D | 00:03 |
| antranigv | damn, it's late night, I can't feel what am I typing. | 00:03 |
| klopsi-u3 | so far i managed to build sailfish OS and boot into it on the device | 00:03 |
| klopsi-u3 | and telnet and ssh to it | 00:04 |
| antranigv | well, you got almost everything then ? | 00:04 |
| klopsi-u3 | no screen working, no keyboard working, no gui | 00:04 |
| antranigv | ohh | 00:04 |
| antranigv | I see | 00:04 |
| klopsi-u3 | no camera, gps, wlan | 00:04 |
| antranigv | SSH via USB ? | 00:05 |
| klopsi-u3 | yes | 00:05 |
| klopsi-u3 | works great | 00:05 |
| klopsi-u3 | hah there is a cellphone with 1440x2560 resolution | 00:06 |
| antranigv | sorry, what? o.O | 00:06 |
| antranigv | or, why ? | 00:06 |
| klopsi-u3 | yeah, why indeed | 00:06 |
| antranigv | who needs that :D | 00:06 |
| klopsi-u3 | motorola Droid TUrbo | 00:06 |
| klopsi-u3 | i am hoping to get the UI up and running in 2015 | 00:07 |
| antranigv | klopsi-u3: how many days are you working on that ? | 00:07 |
| klopsi-u3 | maybe 5 days | 00:07 |
| klopsi-u3 | 7 perhaps | 00:08 |
| klopsi-u3 | within the past few weeks | 00:08 |
| klopsi-u3 | i got a lot of help here | 00:09 |
| antranigv | the phone is sexy | 00:09 |
| klopsi-u3 | droid 4 or droid turbo? | 00:10 |
| antranigv | is there a global version of it? | 00:10 |
| antranigv | droid 4 | 00:10 |
| klopsi-u3 | i think the frequencies work in europe | 00:10 |
| antranigv | Asia ?, we use GSM | 00:10 |
| antranigv | anyway, I wont use it as phone anyway | 00:10 |
| klopsi-u3 | :) | 00:10 |
| antranigv | just internet | 00:10 |
| antranigv | so sometimes I might need | 00:11 |
| klopsi-u3 | yeah i want to chat and stuff with it | 00:11 |
| antranigv | it's GNU after all :P | 00:11 |
| klopsi-u3 | you can buy a droid 4 and we can work on porting sailfish together :) | 00:13 |
| klopsi-u3 | but maybe you prefer to try it on a samsung | 00:14 |
| antranigv | I agree (: as soon as I get home :D | 00:14 |
| antranigv | nop, I need real keyboard | 00:14 |
| klopsi-u3 | yaay! | 00:14 |
| antranigv | how much are they ? | 00:14 |
| klopsi-u3 | 100-140 euro used | 00:14 |
| antranigv | ah very cheap! | 00:14 |
| klopsi-u3 | they arent that bad | 00:15 |
| klopsi-u3 | on android i can record 1080p video | 00:15 |
| antranigv | I wonder if we can port maeomo on it :P | 00:16 |
| klopsi-u3 | i dont think so | 00:16 |
| antranigv | so now you have mer and sailfish running, no GUI and no touch ? | 00:17 |
| antranigv | so just the core | 00:17 |
| antranigv | ah and no WiFi | 00:17 |
| klopsi-u3 | yes | 00:18 |
| klopsi-u3 | there are two stages to initialize the debug mode | 00:19 |
| klopsi-u3 | first stage free shows only 24 MB used | 00:19 |
| antranigv | MB of ram ? | 00:19 |
| klopsi-u3 | then second stage between 200 and 400 MB depending on what gets started | 00:19 |
| klopsi-u3 | yes | 00:19 |
| antranigv | you get full os just by 400 cool | 00:20 |
| antranigv | hmm | 00:20 |
| antranigv | now many MB you see now ? | 00:20 |
| antranigv | in top, or free -h anyway | 00:20 |
| klopsi-u3 | phone is off at the moment | 00:20 |
| antranigv | damn | 00:21 |
| antranigv | the last time ? | 00:21 |
| klopsi-u3 | i think 300 roughly | 00:21 |
| antranigv | ahh cool | 00:22 |
| antranigv | so with full GUI we'll get like 400-500 ? | 00:22 |
| klopsi-u3 | i think it is supposed to be below 400 | 00:22 |
| antranigv | wow (: | 00:23 |
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| klopsi-u3 | but i hope that tomorrow some people are here who know more about sailfish, to answer your questions | 00:25 |
| antranigv | well, now I hope I'll buy droid 4, then port Jolla | 00:26 |
| antranigv | Sailfish I mean | 00:26 |
| antranigv | but | 00:26 |
| antranigv | I miss GTK | 00:27 |
| antranigv | I'd like to have Pidgin, but sailfish is just Qt (I think) | 00:27 |
| antranigv | klopsi-u3: where are you from ? | 00:27 |
| klopsi-u3 | germany | 00:27 |
| antranigv | klopsi-u3: I'm next to you | 00:28 |
| antranigv | netherlands | 00:28 |
| antranigv | stuck here :D | 00:28 |
| klopsi-u3 | why stuck? | 00:28 |
| antranigv | lost my passports | 00:28 |
| klopsi-u3 | oh dear | 00:29 |
| klopsi-u3 | can your consulate help? | 00:29 |
| antranigv | what consulate ? I'm a Syrian citizen :D | 00:29 |
| antranigv | no consulate, no embassy, anyway | 00:30 |
| antranigv | so hope Armenia will get me in (cz I'm etnic Armenian) | 00:30 |
| klopsi-u3 | good luck! | 00:30 |
| antranigv | and buy a Droid 4 from there :P | 00:30 |
| antranigv | thanks! I'll need luck! :D | 00:30 |
| antranigv | klopsi-u3: how did you "port" till now ? | 00:31 |
| antranigv | I mean, you made a package and then using SD you booted it like flashing roms ? | 00:32 |
| klopsi-u3 | i dont remember all the steps. I used the Hardware Adaptation Guide and got a lot of help | 00:32 |
| klopsi-u3 | yes basically | 00:32 |
| klopsi-u3 | first i flashed Cyanogenmod 10.1 to the phone | 00:32 |
| antranigv | aha | 00:32 |
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| klopsi-u3 | antranigv: when will you find out where you can live? | 00:37 |
| antranigv | klopsi-u3: tomorrow I have some studd to check, if everything goes fine, I might be home after one-two weeks | 00:41 |
| antranigv | and buying (and money) is not a problem, after I get home | 00:41 |
| klopsi-u3 | good to hear, do you have some experience with redhat or .rpm based distributions?> | 00:42 |
| antranigv | yupp (: | 00:43 |
| klopsi-u3 | that will help | 00:43 |
| antranigv | I use Funtoo | 00:43 |
| antranigv | it's a Gentoo varient | 00:43 |
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| antranigv | used RPM for work | 00:43 |
| antranigv | but I still hate systemd. :P | 00:44 |
| klopsi-u3 | good so you have some background with linux and shell scripts and stuff | 00:45 |
| klopsi-u3 | here is the basics of porting https://sailfishos.org/develop/hadk/ | 00:46 |
| antranigv | aha aha (: more, I don't use X much :P also browsing in Shell | 00:46 |
| antranigv | yupp I saw that, just reading it | 00:46 |
| antranigv | it's soo detailed lucky us | 00:47 |
| antranigv | klopsi-u3: and the nice thing is, it can run Android apps. | 00:49 |
| antranigv | but to be honest, I wont need that, since most of programs are non-free | 00:49 |
| klopsi-u3 | the sailfish for android phones does not include alien dalvik, so we cant run android apps | 00:49 |
| antranigv | ahh why ? | 00:49 |
| klopsi-u3 | alien dalvik costs money and they dont sell it to end-users, only OEMs | 00:50 |
| klopsi-u3 | as far as I know | 00:50 |
| antranigv | too bad | 00:50 |
| klopsi-u3 | yes i would have likes mapfactor navigator for offline GPS navigation | 00:51 |
| antranigv | well, it would be nice, if programmers port their apps to Sailfish | 00:51 |
| antranigv | not the other way around | 00:52 |
| klopsi-u3 | yup | 00:52 |
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| klopsi-u3 | maybe there is an openstreetmap client that can be ported | 00:54 |
| antranigv | there is for maemo | 00:55 |
| antranigv | it GTK | 00:55 |
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| klopsi-u3 | yeah i still use n900 for my main phone | 00:56 |
| klopsi-u3 | the gps is pretty bad though | 00:56 |
| antranigv | it's an old phone for these days, but still works good | 00:56 |
| klopsi-u3 | cool, gPodder works on sailfish | 00:58 |
| antranigv | hah! | 00:58 |
| antranigv | there is something name openrepo I think ? | 00:59 |
| antranigv | aha, open repos | 01:00 |
| antranigv | any idea if there is python in sailfish ? | 01:01 |
| antranigv | so I can run python code there | 01:02 |
| klopsi-u3 | there must be, gpodder uses python iirc | 01:02 |
| antranigv | didn't know that. cool | 01:02 |
| antranigv | real hacker phone :P | 01:02 |
| klopsi-u3 | i would be happy to have a webbrowser, terminal+ssh+wlan, a youtube player | 01:05 |
| antranigv | and an email client | 01:06 |
| antranigv | there is a music player. | 01:07 |
| klopsi-u3 | yeah that too, and music player and podcast client | 01:07 |
| antranigv | you can make it a piratebox :D | 01:07 |
| antranigv | just compile lighttpd and iw | 01:07 |
| antranigv | and here you go, a web server | 01:07 |
| antranigv | for some people, a phone is a phone | 01:08 |
| antranigv | for some other, a phone is a mobile computer | 01:08 |
| klopsi-u3 | hehe | 01:09 |
| klopsi-u3 | we will see how it goes with the porting | 01:10 |
| antranigv | sleeping time (: c ya tomorrow with good news! | 01:17 |
| klopsi-u3 | ok nice to meet you antranigv | 01:17 |
| antranigv | me too klopsi-u3 ! ^^ | 01:19 |
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| jerpelea | hi all | 07:03 |
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| jerpelea_ | anyone around? | 08:33 |
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| locusf | yap | 08:34 |
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| jerpelea_ | locusf: how do i add a new packages for my device (aries) on the Mer OBS | 08:56 |
| jerpelea_ | i have succesfuly configured it and compiled helo | 08:57 |
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| zGrr | moin :) | 08:58 |
| locusf | jerpelea_: you need to contact lbt to get them to mer obs | 09:03 |
| locusf | jerpelea_: I'd recommend testing the packages locally first when generating the image | 09:03 |
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| carepack | morning | 09:06 |
| uhhimhere | http://www.linaro.org/blog/linaro-14-05-available-download/ | 09:06 |
| uhhimhere | i thought linaro was just a compiler | 09:06 |
| uhhimhere | can someone explain to me what kind of additional source/drivers are needed for a CM port to a samsung device? after all samsung puts all their source on opensource.samsung.com | 09:17 |
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| Guest94628 | Can anyone confirm that cm11 works when porting to an android device? Been reading the HADK and it states 10.1.X. | 09:36 |
| mal- | the Nexus 5 port of sailfish is based on cm11 | 09:37 |
| Guest94628 | Thats good to know, thanks. | 09:38 |
| carepack | uhhimhere: sure that samsung also provide device drivers? Since not every driver came from samsung theire als working with blobs. | 09:38 |
| mal- | I have also a partially working port on another device based on cm11 | 09:38 |
| Guest94628 | That's cool, I was just wondering. I didn't think there would be an issue with cm11 however you can never be so sure. | 09:40 |
| Sail0r | I didn't get my Kindle Fire HD to boot with my cm11 mod | 09:40 |
| Sail0r | it immediatly gets do bricked | 09:40 |
| Sail0r | *to | 09:40 |
| Guest94628 | softbrick or...? | 09:41 |
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| jerpelea_ | locusf: explain please howto get package localy | 09:49 |
| uhhimhere | Sail0r: isnt that the BCM28155 SoC based USB thingy | 09:50 |
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| Sail0r | only soft brick | 09:52 |
| Sail0r | I can flash it afterwards with cm11 | 09:52 |
| Sail0r | and it's running cm11 perfectly fine | 09:52 |
| Sail0r | but when I flash sailfishos it immediatly goes to recovery mode | 09:52 |
| Guest90975 | Ahh | 09:54 |
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| sledges | Sail0r: debug time;) | 10:40 |
| Sail0r | yeah ;) | 10:41 |
| Sail0r | but without any output it's a bit hard to debug *g* | 10:41 |
| Sail0r | I think the installed cm11 version differs from the one I build against | 10:41 |
| sledges | Sail0r: lsusb method in hadk ;) i; sure cm version miss will be last thing you'll worry about;) | 10:46 |
| Sail0r | ok | 10:47 |
| Sail0r | ^^ | 10:47 |
| Sail0r | I thought that could maybe a problem *g* | 10:47 |
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| vgrade_ | jerpelea: for local build, chapter 13 then chapter 8 | 11:19 |
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| antranigv | \o | 11:32 |
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| sledges | morn! | 11:33 |
| antranigv | sledges: I see that you ported Sailfish to Nexus 4, right ? | 11:33 |
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| sledges | antranigv: it was team effort | 11:36 |
| sledges | *jolla team;) | 11:36 |
| antranigv | I see (: cool | 11:36 |
| sledges | now community is bringing bluetooth to it | 11:37 |
| antranigv | too bad there's no dalvik on it. | 11:38 |
| antranigv | yesterday klopsi-u3 said that ported sailfish has no dalvik, some OEM stuff. anyways | 11:39 |
| sledges | it seems chicken and egg: hardcore developers who would be able to come up with android layer are just happy with native apps instead, and everyone else is asking for dalvik support :D | 11:39 |
| antranigv | oh btw, after long conversation, I decided to buy Droid 4 to port Sailfish to it. | 11:40 |
| antranigv | I'll be honest and say, I don't care either, we need native apps, not Java stuff :P | 11:40 |
| sledges | ;) | 11:40 |
| sledges | it's a matter of time before major part of users will be having a set of apps they need | 11:41 |
| antranigv | I want GTK :( | 11:41 |
| antranigv | for pidgin | 11:41 |
| antranigv | and pidgin-otr | 11:41 |
| sledges | congrats on droid4! i think there were graphics issues | 11:41 |
| antranigv | yes, no GUI. | 11:41 |
| sledges | sailfish has unified messages hub, and a separate irc client | 11:42 |
| sledges | and hopefully soon the messaging plugins go opensource so community can integrate telepathy and what not | 11:42 |
| antranigv | but is it possible to port GTK ? | 11:42 |
| antranigv | just compile and go | 11:42 |
| antranigv | ? | 11:42 |
| sledges | Xorg has already been ported;) | 11:42 |
| sledges | but simply looks ugly :P | 11:43 |
| antranigv | wow | 11:43 |
| sledges | and impractical | 11:43 |
| antranigv | yea, sure. | 11:43 |
| sledges | for touch | 11:43 |
| sledges | etc | 11:43 |
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| antranigv | sledges: you have Jolla ? or just sailfish on N4 ? | 11:44 |
| sledges | jolla it is :) | 11:44 |
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| sledges | i use 2 android apps on it ;) | 11:45 |
| antranigv | which one? | 11:45 |
| sledges | ok 3 | 11:45 |
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| antranigv | or, which 3 ? :D | 11:45 |
| sledges | google maps (in my city traffic dodging is a must, and gmaps is unbeatable in real-time traffic and avoidance) | 11:45 |
| sledges | viber | 11:46 |
| sledges | and instant car check, to lookup car engine data by its licence plate when i see a nice one:) | 11:46 |
| sledges | thinking to implement an OCR after camera shots:)) | 11:46 |
| antranigv | hmm cool | 11:47 |
| antranigv | viber - we have XMPP anyway | 11:47 |
| antranigv | some people think that viber/skype/etc is a magic | 11:47 |
| antranigv | OCR ? | 11:47 |
| sledges | optical character recognition | 11:47 |
| sledges | for them licence plates | 11:48 |
| antranigv | yea, like, can you OCR books? :D | 11:48 |
| sledges | my eyes do my best, but it just never happens with books :D | 11:49 |
| antranigv | I will be also happy to port maemo to Droid 4 haha | 11:50 |
| antranigv | right now there's no encryption for chatting, right ? | 11:51 |
| antranigv | some empathy bug they said. or what. | 11:52 |
| sledges | ? | 11:52 |
| antranigv | like, OTR :) | 11:52 |
| antranigv | on Sailfish | 11:52 |
| sledges | probably guys at #sailfishos would know better:) | 11:53 |
| antranigv | oh, yea | 11:54 |
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| klopsi-u3 | hi antranigv and sledges and mal- | 13:15 |
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| locusf | bootlogger: can't write into /var/log/systemboot.log <- I get this kind of error while booting huawei p6 | 14:28 |
| locusf | device reboots straight after this | 14:28 |
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| Taaeem | locusf: problems with accessing storage in huawei p6? | 14:47 |
| locusf | Taaeem: nope, system mount works fine | 14:48 |
| locusf | it just doesn't get that far as systemd dies to dsme error above | 14:49 |
| Taaeem | locusf: ah okay because we had some problems in the last few month that after flashing some ROM, you couldn't access the storage and to fix that you've had to wipe/format data and the internal storage | 14:50 |
| locusf | oh | 14:51 |
| locusf | Taaeem: if you are the person from twitter, other update is that minimer works, although again with EGL_PLATFORM=null and it is not going to launch apps with that configuration | 14:53 |
| locusf | so the situation is the same with cm11 | 14:53 |
| Taaeem | locusf: yes same person ;) | 14:53 |
| Taaeem | okay sad | 14:54 |
| locusf | Taaeem: yup it is, I wonder what surdupetru tried with the CM11 vivante open source drivers though | 14:56 |
| locusf | he has removed those now as it contained proprietary files | 14:57 |
| Taaeem | locusf: oh you're right just saw that on xda | 15:01 |
| Taaeem | but for now you mean that it's still impossible to get a port working right? | 15:01 |
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| locusf | Taaeem: yes | 15:12 |
| locusf | unfortunately | 15:12 |
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| Taaeem | Then I have to wait until I buy me a new phone which will be a Jolla ;) or maybe Vsenn | 15:20 |
| Taaeem | Does anyone here know about somebody trying to port to a HTC? Because these phones are looking great and the speakers are also very very good | 15:21 |
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| locusf | there is just one guy doing the ace, I don't know his name though | 15:24 |
| locusf | ah its piggz | 15:25 |
| Taaeem | ahh yeah but nobody tried for one of the htc one's? | 15:26 |
| locusf | afaik no | 15:26 |
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| locusf | Taaeem: best bet is to buy a Jolla, you can get one now with 199 off of shop.jolla.com with discount code FOSDEM2015 | 16:00 |
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| antranigv | klopsi-u3: I found a Droid 4 for 60 euros | 16:44 |
| antranigv | here in NL | 16:44 |
| klopsi-u3 | wow! | 16:44 |
| klopsi-u3 | is it in good condition? | 16:44 |
| antranigv | can you check it ? I have the link, it;s in netherlands language | 16:45 |
| klopsi-u3 | sure | 16:45 |
| antranigv | maybe you can translate | 16:45 |
| antranigv | this is for 60 http://kg.am/uu38l7b | 16:45 |
| antranigv | this is new for 160 8c285449651fa109c354bbabe740c1b&previousPage=lr | 16:46 |
| antranigv | oops | 16:46 |
| antranigv | sorry | 16:46 |
| klopsi-u3 | https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=nl&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.marktplaats.nl%2Fa%2Ftelecommunicatie%2Fmobiele-telefoons-motorola%2Fm865572653-motorola-droid-4-xt894.html%3Fc%3D8c285449651fa109c354bbabe740c1b%26previousPage%3Dlr&edit-text= | 16:46 |
| antranigv | this is new for 160 http://kg.am/wuptrib | 16:46 |
| antranigv | and another one for 85 http://kg.am/atenhx | 16:46 |
| antranigv | maybe the 85 is good | 16:47 |
| antranigv | I can buy it after tomorrow, or next week | 16:47 |
| klopsi-u3 | just enter the url into translate.google.com | 16:47 |
| antranigv | need another laptop, this one is without X :D | 16:47 |
| klopsi-u3 | oh dear ok | 16:48 |
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| antranigv | the 80 euros one is clean :) | 16:50 |
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| antranigv | OR I should buy the 60 one, what do you think ? | 16:51 |
| klopsi-u3 | the 60 euro one has a problem with the power button, apparently | 16:51 |
| antranigv | I can diassamble and check that | 16:51 |
| antranigv | wait, I have a techinchan friend | 16:52 |
| antranigv | a friend in need is a friend indeed :P | 16:52 |
| klopsi-u3 | i cannot make the decision for you | 16:54 |
| antranigv | ah, I'll buy the 85 one, cool. | 16:54 |
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| Taaeem | locusf: I would buy a jolla but my problem is as a student 200€ for a OS I didn't used before with hardware which is not soo good, I wait til the next Jolla phone drops or buy a Android with a stable sailfish port | 17:40 |
| locusf | Taaeem: understood :) | 17:41 |
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| erikys | Lietuviu yra? | 18:06 |
| sledges | english pls :P | 18:06 |
| sledges | bet yra;P | 18:07 |
| erikys | sorry, please tell me: are HTC have sailfish? | 18:08 |
| sledges | np, we have a port for Desire HD | 18:08 |
| sledges | and Desire Z (with hw keyboard) | 18:08 |
| erikys | I are from mobili Erikas_Trick | 18:08 |
| sledges | i recognised you;) welcome aboard! | 18:09 |
| erikys | Yeah thanks:P | 18:09 |
| sledges | I'm sledge/Simonas who keeps spamming that lithuanian mobile forum about jolla and stuffs;D | 18:09 |
| erikys | ;D | 18:10 |
| sledges | so what phones have you got lying around? | 18:10 |
| erikys | I home have Sony, LG, and HTC I must buy | 18:11 |
| sledges | which sony? | 18:11 |
| erikys | Xperia Z1 Compact | 18:11 |
| sledges | if you want hardcore saifish experience and no android apps - buy nexus4;) | 18:11 |
| sledges | whoops, check the link under "More info" at https://sailfishos.org/hadk | 18:12 |
| sledges | you'll see z1 compact is all red :( | 18:12 |
| erikys | I want nexus 4 but I didn't found cheap | 18:12 |
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| sledges | strange, nexus4 is quite an oldish phone already | 18:13 |
| sledges | must be still popular/hackable as we see:) | 18:13 |
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| erikys_ | sorry i lost connection and page restar:( | 18:14 |
| sledges | click on 2nd link in the topic for channel log in case you missed anything | 18:14 |
| ZeDestructor | it s a case of everyone has a nexus 4 lying around they have no issues permabricking | 18:14 |
| sledges | the onle phone which got permabricked on this channel was oneplus one, and only once ;) | 18:14 |
| sledges | it should be totally mindless to permabrick a nexus i think:) | 18:15 |
| erikys_ | Meaby be Jolla jolla2? | 18:16 |
| sledges | but yea, since they are -so- hackable | 18:16 |
| sledges | easy to go careless:) | 18:16 |
| sledges | erikys_: jolla tablet is the next thing;) | 18:16 |
| sledges | this week you can get jolla for 199€ with special discount code;) | 18:16 |
| erikys_ | I want Jolla! | 18:16 |
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| erikys_ | But I don't have money... :( | 18:17 |
| sledges | code for sailfish ;) this is how one guy got rich: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/sailfishos-individual-developer-support | 18:18 |
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| jerpelea | hi all | 18:18 |
| sledges | o/ | 18:18 |
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| erikys | what inch is Jolla screen? | 18:18 |
| sledges | well, specs is the wrong way to start assessing a full-blown sailfish (linux) device ;) or you won't go far :) | 18:19 |
| sledges | https://jolla.com/jolla/ | 18:19 |
| sledges | 4.5" (specs are on the bottom - intentionally;)) | 18:20 |
| erikys | thanks, sorry I dont wery good write English :) | 18:20 |
| sledges | no problem, you can message me in PM in Lithuanian ;) | 18:21 |
| erikys | But I don't now where is PM... Here | 18:21 |
| sledges | i just PMd you:) | 18:21 |
| erikys | ok | 18:22 |
| sledges | see the next tab in your browser with my nickname | 18:22 |
| erikys | Meaby yes | 18:22 |
| jerpelea | does anyone have a comparison betwen android and sailfish | 18:32 |
| jerpelea | performance and battery impact ? | 18:32 |
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| erikys | are in stella imposible chanche wallpaper? | 18:52 |
| jerpelea | sledges:i am confident that we will change that red to green in z1 compact | 18:53 |
| erikys | sledges? | 18:53 |
| jerpelea | Error <creator>: Unable to find pattern: Jolla Configuration aries | 18:53 |
| erikys | lithuania | 18:54 |
| piggz | sledges: tested jewelrush on ace with fixed Qt ... it much better, but performance sucks a bit | 18:56 |
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| sledges | jerpelea: that's good news;) | 19:07 |
| sledges | erikys: you might be able to hack the wallpaper yourself, young android tinkerer;) | 19:08 |
| sledges | piggz: good to know it was some timer-related qtdeclarative stuff also in your case | 19:08 |
| piggz | sledges: possible to get actual dpi instead of 100? | 19:10 |
| sledges | jerpelea: sailfishos battery life on nexus4: http://www.merproject.org/logs/%23sailfishos-porters/%23sailfishos-porters.2015-01-16.log.html#t2015-01-16T20:43:24 | 19:11 |
| sledges | piggz? | 19:11 |
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| piggz | sledges: QGuiApplication::primaryScreen()->physicalDotsPerInch() returns 100 | 19:12 |
| piggz | should be ~217 | 19:12 |
| sledges | piggz: i'll ask our internal guy he's been looking at this lately | 19:12 |
| jerpelea | sledges:i thought that you have a comparison not just a thread | 19:13 |
| piggz | sledges: cool ... makes it difficult to draw gui items at reasonable size | 19:13 |
| sledges | jerpelea: didn't arrive at such level of PR, probably never will;) unless dalvik support gets in so we can sell this to masses | 19:14 |
| sledges | linux has been good enough keyword | 19:14 |
| sledges | with obvious expectations that no java means good battery;) | 19:14 |
| jerpelea | i know what you mean but i want to research also this aspect | 19:15 |
| jerpelea | by the way do you pack dalvik in comunity builds? | 19:16 |
| sledges | hasn't been researched in detail | 19:16 |
| jerpelea | lets get it runing on sony devices | 19:16 |
| sledges | what would be a benchmark objectively reflecting performance changes between bionic/dalvik and glibc/qt? | 19:16 |
| jerpelea | yes or no | 19:17 |
| jerpelea | because one of the biggest power hogs is display | 19:17 |
| sledges | fps? | 19:17 |
| jerpelea | the others are gpu and cpu | 19:17 |
| jerpelea | so as less we stress those 2 the better the live is | 19:18 |
| sledges | and we keep optimising;) today for example https://github.com/sletta/qt5-qpa-hwcomposer-plugin/commit/99997f0da5ba226aa204c89036ce2c82b8896bb5 | 19:19 |
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| klopsi-u3 | cool stuff sledges | 19:24 |
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| erikys | sledge atleisk kad lt bet kaip pakeist screen stella? | 19:32 |
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| antranigv | sledges: I ordered a Droid 4 :) is that good news? | 19:43 |
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| sledges | antranigv: very good news! community is all about scratching your own (or a recommended) itch ;) | 20:34 |
| sledges | so whatever floats your boat (sic:)) | 20:35 |
| klopsi-u3 | it will be interesting to see if he gets the same reboot starting droid-hal-init | 20:47 |
| sledges | klopsi-u3: did you disable all *rc ? | 20:49 |
| sledges | services not only in init.rc but all others too;) | 20:49 |
| sledges | binary search | 20:49 |
| klopsi-u3 | not yet | 20:49 |
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| klopsi-u3 | sorry | 20:50 |
| sledges | no worries, maybe antranigv will;) | 20:52 |
| antranigv | after I get the phone, I'll do that everyday :P | 20:55 |
| antranigv | we can have a mobile webserver haha | 20:56 |
| stephg | eveninglydingles | 20:58 |
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| Nokius_ | vgrade: cm has no licince on ther wiki page so fare I saw :-/ (quick checked it yesterday) | 21:21 |
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| * Nokius_ ah found devjerpelea hint | 21:32 | |
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