| Sazpaimon_ | so mb2 -s ../rpm/libhybris.spec -t $VENDOR-$DEVICE-armv7hl build doesn't allow the packages to install, but mb2 -t $VENDOR-$DEVICE-armv7hl -s rpm/droid-hal-device.inc build does | 00:11 |
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| Sazpaimon_ | the latter gives me "Header V3 DSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID f2633ee0: NOKEY", the former gives me "Header V3 DSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID f2633ee0: NOKEY" | 00:12 |
| Sazpaimon_ | err, the former gives me "Header V3 DSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID f2633ee0: BAD" | 00:13 |
| Sazpaimon_ | okay, this doesnt make sense, I'm building droid-hal-device.inc from /parentroot, and its fine, but when I build libhybris from /srv/mer/sdks/sdk/devel/mer-hybris/libhybris/libhybris I get a bad rpmdb | 00:20 |
| Sazpaimon_ | i guess this is why you shouldnt install the mer sdk in root | 00:20 |
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| Sazpaimon_ | moving the directory to /parentroot makes it build fine, i have no idea why | 00:24 |
| Sazpaimon_ | okay, how how do I deal with "#error "No valid ANDROID_VERSION found." in pulseaudio-modules-droid? | 00:43 |
| beidl | someone still here? almost there with audio support, need someone with a working device though. | 01:13 |
| Sazpaimon_ | okay, I'm past that point, but where do I generate my kickstart file? Where do I find/run ssuks? | 01:15 |
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| vakkov | wtf... i can't post in the dev section in xda because i have less than 10 posts | 06:38 |
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| junnuvi | beidl_: I have working device without working audio :) | 07:35 |
| swl | I just got a working device without anything working on it. ;D | 07:37 |
| junnuvi | only amateurs needs gui :) | 07:41 |
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| Nokius1 | junnuvi: true 11 | 07:56 |
| Nokius1 | cu later guys | 07:59 |
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| oh1jty | swl: same here :D | 08:05 |
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| alin | morgen | 08:27 |
| phdeswer | hi alin | 08:27 |
| alin | there is a good news... my battery seems to have better life than with android | 08:36 |
| alin | usually took around 10% from home to office... streaming... | 08:36 |
| alin | today I have seen only 4% | 08:36 |
| alin | now I do not know if this happens because of a lot of things not working | 08:36 |
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| sledges | morniin! | 09:35 |
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| blackjack4it | mornin :D here it's raining :( | 09:35 |
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| sledges | alterego_: is it lot work to audio grouper? cc junnuvi | 09:36 |
| alterego | Nope | 09:36 |
| sledges | blackjack4it: it's neverending heatwave here, summer of 25 deg, in decades :D | 09:36 |
| situ | Morning all | 09:36 |
| alterego | Presumably it just needs to be configured like mako, etc. | 09:36 |
| blackjack4it | sledges: lucky you :D | 09:37 |
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| sledges | situ: updated pp on nasty bootstuck | 09:46 |
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| situ | sledges: pp ? | 09:48 |
| sledges | piratepad | 09:48 |
| swl | someone had promised rain here as well. but the heatwave rolls on. | 09:49 |
| dr_gogeta86 | fellow ... good morning | 09:50 |
| sledges | swl: whereabouts're you? | 09:51 |
| swl | sledges: Stockholm, Sweden | 09:51 |
| sledges | Volvo ftw \m/ | 09:51 |
| swl | haha | 09:51 |
| swl | Never gotten the fascination for volvos that my fellow swedes have. They are expensive and boring. ;) | 09:53 |
| swl | Although, they are quite practical | 09:53 |
| dr_gogeta86 | better then my seat leon | 09:53 |
| swl | haha | 09:53 |
| sledges | my friend is into >20yo ones ;) has made 230HP engine on his effort, very easily tinkerable (hey what channel are we in? :))) | 09:53 |
| swl | sledges: haha, always wondered what happens if a Volvo 240 collides with a Nokia 3310.. immovable object meets the unstoppable force? :P | 09:54 |
| dr_gogeta86 | porters ... = hacker of everything | 09:54 |
| sledges | swl: lol! and exactly 240 he owns :)) | 09:55 |
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| swl | sledges: how usable is sailfish on the nexus4 compared to on the jolla device? | 09:59 |
| vakkov | swl: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris | 10:00 |
| swl | vakkov: cheers. My jolla would need a screen replacement, but that costs more than to buy a nexus4, hence the question. ;) | 10:01 |
| vakkov | swl: sorry to hear that. Is the jolla repair really that expensive | 10:02 |
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| swl | yeah.. 210€ + postage to get the screen replaced. Quite steep. Probably originating in the fact that there are quite a few devices on the market still. | 10:03 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | swl samsung for every crap device they made | 10:03 |
| dr_gogeta86 | there are almost 10M pieces | 10:03 |
| dr_gogeta86 | just on first month of production | 10:03 |
| swl | dr_gogeta86: yeah. I'm just comparing to Apple. replacing the screen on my girlfriends phone was quite a bit cheaper. | 10:04 |
| dr_gogeta86 | sledges, typical biscuits from my city | 10:04 |
| dr_gogeta86 | https://scontent-b-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10524723_10203786304010555_6528059953069040391_n.jpg?oh=4e274d5dbfa7366e47e4098a2a081f8f&oe=544ABF7F | 10:04 |
| dr_gogeta86 | swl, is the law of numbers | 10:05 |
| vakkov | swl: you have to know that there is no dalvik for these hadk devices... yet | 10:05 |
| sledges | dr_gogeta86: good im already being a cereal killer atm :) | 10:05 |
| sledges | swl: and camera... yet :) | 10:05 |
| dr_gogeta86 | its broke your teeth | 10:05 |
| swl | vakkov: i know. That's not much of an issue tho. It's my personal phone which is quite the "secondary" for me. my workphone usually is my go to-device anyways. mostly since it rings much more. ;D | 10:05 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | pulseaudio-modules-droid | 10:10 |
| dr_gogeta86 | ouch | 10:10 |
| dr_gogeta86 | :-( | 10:10 |
| swl | Well.. time to take the dog out for a walk. bbl | 10:12 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | so strange | 10:31 |
| dr_gogeta86 | Warning: repo problem: pattern:jolla-configuration-c8813q-0.0.6-201407301012.noarch requires pattern:jolla-hw-adaptation-c8813q, but this requirement cannot be provided, uninstallable providers: pattern:jolla-hw-adaptation-c8813q-0.0.6-201407301012.noarch[adaptation0-c8813q-1.0.8.19] | 10:31 |
| dr_gogeta86 | Error <repo>: found 1 resolver problem, abort! | 10:31 |
| sledges | dr_gogeta86: bottom of page 24 | 10:32 |
| dr_gogeta86 | i'm reading | 10:32 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | Error <creator>: Unable to find pattern: jolla-hw-adaptation-$DEVICE | 10:34 |
| sledges | dr_gogeta86: replace $DEVICE with your $DEVICE | 10:35 |
| dr_gogeta86 | we need to collect my yellings | 10:35 |
| beidl | hello hello dear porters | 10:36 |
| dr_gogeta86 | hi beidl | 10:37 |
| beidl | soooo... audio routes to the speakers now... the problem is: only to the speakers. and I have an idea why. | 10:39 |
| beidl | could someone with a working device (doesn't even need to have working audio) test something for me really quickly? | 10:40 |
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| sledges | beidl: fire away | 10:44 |
| sledges | which dev? :)) | 10:44 |
| beidl | run: cat /proc/bus/input/devices | 10:44 |
| beidl | and look for the event handler of the headset jack (event$NUM) | 10:44 |
| beidl | then run: /system/bin/getevent /dev/input/event$NUM | 10:44 |
| beidl | and check if there's output if you continuously pull and plug the headset | 10:44 |
| beidl | sledges: doesn't matter :) | 10:45 |
| dr_gogeta86 | in next days | 10:45 |
| dr_gogeta86 | i still cant' compile pulseaudio droid | 10:45 |
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| sledges | beidl: yes: i9305: https://pastee.org/v9erf | 10:50 |
| beidl | sledges: thanks! looks like maguro/tuna platform code actually prevents events from being printed :/ | 10:51 |
| sledges | hm :/ | 10:51 |
| sledges | how does android work then? | 10:51 |
| sledges | beidl: good job on audio re-route though! (i just noticed, with headphones in, system sounds are still via speakers on sailfish - like charging started, cunning isn't it ;) | 10:52 |
| beidl | android has the h2w driver | 10:52 |
| beidl | sledges: yeah that's what I noticed as well :D | 10:53 |
| beidl | sledges: android checks the h2w state at /sys/devices/virtual/switch/h2w | 10:53 |
| beidl | so I'll probably add a patch to the OHM accessories plugin to check the state there | 10:53 |
| beidl | might work much better for android devices | 10:53 |
| sledges | beidl: yup | 10:53 |
| sledges | well, for now your device is 'the first one' with such symptom | 10:54 |
| beidl | sledges: I figured that :/ | 10:54 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | is pulseaudio-modules-droid in buildable stage | 11:01 |
| dr_gogeta86 | http://pastie.org/9431424 | 11:08 |
| dr_gogeta86 | all you pulses are belong to situ | 11:13 |
| dr_gogeta86 | i need this version due 4.4.2 base | 11:14 |
| sledges | dr_gogeta86: https://github.com/siteshwar/pulseaudio-modules-droid/commit/55ae90a532c7c74efd83a4d51ad60ec06b4e1ede et al. | 11:16 |
| dr_gogeta86 | already done | 11:16 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | jolla-hw-adaptation | 11:45 |
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| Nokius_afk | sledges: hope all right ^^ looks like i fixed the cvlc issue (got it now on debian 6 will try now debian7 and then deplay later today) | 12:44 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/07/nokia-agps-ubuntu-phones | 12:48 |
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| sledges | Nokius1: fun stuff | 12:57 |
| dr_gogeta86 | sledges, i've told you i've build all with centos7 | 12:57 |
| sledges | good man | 12:58 |
| dr_gogeta86 | mine mer-sdk is centos7 | 12:58 |
| dr_gogeta86 | Linux localhost.localdomain 3.10.0-123.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Mon Jun 30 12:09:22 UTC 2014 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux | 12:58 |
| dr_gogeta86 | outside | 12:58 |
| dr_gogeta86 | Linux localhost.localdomain 3.10.0-123.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Mon Jun 30 12:09:22 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux | 12:58 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | why ? | 13:04 |
| dr_gogeta86 | Problem: nothing provides /system/bin/sh needed by droid-hal-c8813q-0.0.6-201407301012.armv7hl | 13:04 |
| dr_gogeta86 | i don't care | 13:04 |
| sledges | 23:04 < sledges> gogeta: but if your /init.ril.sh has #!/system/bin/sh change it to #!/bin/sh | 13:04 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | i've remembered | 13:04 |
| dr_gogeta86 | now I must recompile hybris-hal | 13:07 |
| dr_gogeta86 | :-( | 13:07 |
| dr_gogeta86 | Info: Installing: mtp-vendor-configura + [ 30/566]/var/tmp/rpm-tmp.r0rcYM: line 7: rm: command not found | 13:29 |
| dr_gogeta86 | Info: Installing: feature-xt9 ++ [ 34/566]/var/tmp/rpm-tmp.KYyfJS: line 1: touch: command not found | 13:29 |
| dr_gogeta86 | why | 13:29 |
| sledges | safe | 13:32 |
| dr_gogeta86 | sledges, for a phone with just 4 custom rom | 13:33 |
| dr_gogeta86 | this huawei is not bad | 13:34 |
| dr_gogeta86 | miui based on stock | 13:34 |
| dr_gogeta86 | lewa os based on stock | 13:34 |
| dr_gogeta86 | cm11/mokee | 13:34 |
| dr_gogeta86 | and now jolla | 13:34 |
| dr_gogeta86 | *sorry sailfishOS | 13:34 |
| * sledges nods | 13:34 | |
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| sledges | locusf: try to play around with /etc/dconf/db/vendor.d/screen-rotation.txt | 14:01 |
| sledges | just stumbled upon while searching for something else :) | 14:01 |
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| alin | sledges: so... are you happy with the restarts? | 14:15 |
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| * dr_gogeta86 finger crossed | 14:16 | |
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| sledges | alin: yes, they are gone | 14:20 |
| sledges | :DD | 14:21 |
| sledges | sadly, because i didn't do anything since yesterday | 14:21 |
| Sazpaimon | sledges, for pulseaudio-modules-droid on cm11, I used your repository's rebase branch, is that correct? | 14:22 |
| dr_gogeta86 | I've used | 14:26 |
| dr_gogeta86 | situ one | 14:27 |
| Sazpaimon | link? | 14:27 |
| dr_gogeta86 | git clone https://github.com/siteshwar/pulseaudio-modules-droid.git -b testing | 14:27 |
| Sazpaimon | ok | 14:29 |
| Sazpaimon | have you gotten to building the kickstart yet> | 14:29 |
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| sledges | Sazpaimon: good call, the rebase takes latest from master, because, well, rebase :)) | 14:37 |
| sledges | 11.0 branch highly experimental, so even without rebase it seemingly works | 14:37 |
| Sazpaimon | okay | 14:37 |
| Sazpaimon | I'm basically stuck at the kickstart step now, I don't know where I need to run ssuks | 14:38 |
| sledges | Sazpaimon: cmdline output paste :) | 14:41 |
| Sazpaimon | sledges, output from what? I don't have any commands I'm running | 14:43 |
| Sazpaimon | I want to know where I actually run these commands | 14:43 |
| sledges | Sazpaimon: chapter? :) | 14:44 |
| Sazpaimon | oh, 8.2 | 14:44 |
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| Sazpaimon | specifically, "The kickstart file is generated using ssuks, which is part of the SSU utility." | 14:44 |
| sledges | yes | 14:44 |
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| sledges | do not launch any commands unless hadk explicitly lists them :) | 14:45 |
| Sazpaimon | okay, so where does Jolla-@RELEASE@-$DEVICE-@ARCH@.ks come from? | 14:45 |
| dr_gogeta86 | from 7.1.4 | 14:46 |
| dr_gogeta86 | droid-hal-configs | 14:46 |
| Sazpaimon | i could have sworn i ran this step | 14:47 |
| locusf | sledges: okay | 14:59 |
| Sazpaimon | I can't telnet into my hybris-boot image, I get connection refused | 15:02 |
| sledges | Sazpaimon: delete usb-moded from rootfs /lib/systemd/system/ | 15:03 |
| sledges | (it shouldn't be there by now really) | 15:05 |
| Sazpaimon | err, where do I find this? I don't see it in my droid folder | 15:06 |
| Sazpaimon | when I booted the image, it also mounted every partition on the phone, but I dont see that file either | 15:07 |
| sledges | Sazpaimon: can you access your rootfs e.g. via cwm ? | 15:11 |
| Sazpaimon | i can boot a twrp or cwm image via fastboot and use that, I haven't flashed a bootloader onto the phone though | 15:11 |
| Sazpaimon | I'm pretty sure the rootfs is mounted here though | 15:12 |
| dr_gogeta86 | start twrp | 15:12 |
| dr_gogeta86 | and then use | 15:12 |
| dr_gogeta86 | adb shell | 15:12 |
| Sazpaimon | when i booted hybris-boot, I got 6 partitions mounted | 15:12 |
| sledges | Sazpaimon: great don't flash | 15:13 |
| sledges | just boot hybris-recovery.img instead | 15:13 |
| sledges | and we'll take it from there | 15:13 |
| Sazpaimon | hybris-recovery does the same thing, all of the phone's partitions are mounted, and telnet gives connection refused | 15:16 |
| sledges | Sazpaimon: telnet 192.168.2.15 | 15:17 |
| sledges | not .1 | 15:17 |
| Sazpaimon | I was actually trying .20 | 15:18 |
| Sazpaimon | im dumb, i didnt realize that wasn't the gateway | 15:18 |
| sledges | it is a gateway, but to a slightly different world ^_^ | 15:18 |
| Sazpaimon | okay, everything seems to be in order here, that's a good sign | 15:19 |
| Sazpaimon | next issue, the generated kickstart file has http://releases.merproject.org/releases/1.0.8.19/builds/armv7hl/packages/repodata/repomd.xml as the mer-core repository. Naturally mic doesn't like this, what do I need to change it to? | 15:21 |
| dr_gogeta86 | this way | 15:22 |
| dr_gogeta86 | repo --name=adaptation0-c8813q-@RELEASE@ --baseurl=file:///home/gogeta/mer/android/system/droid-local-repo/c8813q | 15:22 |
| dr_gogeta86 | repo --name=apps-@RELEASE@ --baseurl=https://releases.jolla.com/jolla-apps/@RELEASE@/@ARCH@/ | 15:22 |
| dr_gogeta86 | repo --name=hotfixes-@RELEASE@ --baseurl=https://releases.jolla.com/releases/@RELEASE@/hotfixes/@ARCH@/ | 15:22 |
| dr_gogeta86 | repo --name=jolla-@RELEASE@ --baseurl=https://releases.jolla.com/releases/@RELEASE@/jolla/@ARCH@/ | 15:22 |
| Sazpaimon | actually, the kickstart doesn't have any jolla specific repos, odd | 15:22 |
| dr_gogeta86 | remove remote | 15:22 |
| sledges | Sazpaimon: what does this say: grep domain $ANDROID_ROOT/hybris/droid-hal-configs/rpm/droid-hal-configs.spec | 15:22 |
| dr_gogeta86 | you still have local | 15:22 |
| sledges | ? | 15:22 |
| Sazpaimon | nope, sales | 15:22 |
| sledges | can i see your whole .ks pls? | 15:23 |
| Sazpaimon | http://paste.ubuntu.com/ | 15:23 |
| Sazpaimon | err | 15:23 |
| Sazpaimon | http://paste.ubuntu.com/7905723/ | 15:24 |
| Sazpaimon | I don't doubt that I may have done something out of order to cause this | 15:24 |
| Sazpaimon | i also don't know what the heck I did to make my android root directory so weird | 15:25 |
| sledges | Sazpaimon: how did you manage to build that .ks then? | 15:28 |
| sledges | with repo.pub.meego.com etc :) | 15:28 |
| Sazpaimon | from droid-hal-configs.spec | 15:30 |
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| sledges | Sazpaimon: sorry, build image with mic using that .ks | 15:33 |
| sledges | how did you manage :) | 15:34 |
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| sledges | Sazpaimon: you probably used a non-sailfish-os target? | 15:43 |
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| alin | sledges: hi | 15:48 |
| sledges | hoy | 15:51 |
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| alin | sledges: who focked the ubuntu image? | 15:59 |
| alin | Unknown ubuntu version | 16:00 |
| sledges | alin: because you are update-happy ;) mer-tools stable does not yet have the fix and it well, gotten overwritten :) | 16:01 |
| alin | sledges: ok... | 16:01 |
| sledges | you know how to fix right? | 16:02 |
| beidl | OMAP is driving me nuts | 16:04 |
| sledges | ahh good ole omap, you wanna change for closed qualcomm? :)) i'd be the first :))) | 16:05 |
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| tbr | omap was nice in ways. TI effed up royally though. | 16:06 |
| beidl | I mean, how usefull is that: have an input event device that does not throw events | 16:07 |
| sledges | oh well, every chip has its can'o'worms, but one's bigger than other :) | 16:07 |
| beidl | meanwhile, TI is putting it's sunglasses on and like "deal with it" | 16:09 |
| sledges | maybe the bug was in sammy's ref design? anyhoo, google isn't being helpful? | 16:10 |
| beidl | we all need an allwinner board, just for curation purposes :D | 16:10 |
| sledges | :} | 16:10 |
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| beidl | sledges: well. I found a little guide on how the SoC jack detection is supposed to work. | 16:11 |
| beidl | problem is: the authors english is worse than mine | 16:11 |
| sledges | you speak english better than we does | 16:11 |
| sledges | it does involve a wee bit of decrypting in our day2day work :) | 16:12 |
| beidl | que? | 16:12 |
| beidl | :D | 16:12 |
| vakkov | HAHA :d | 16:14 |
| beidl | they see me grep'ping, they hatiiin | 16:14 |
| beidl | but the nice thing is: at least we can call now without a headset :) | 16:15 |
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| Sazpaimon | sledges, I'll probably start over, now that I kinda know what I'm doing | 16:15 |
| vakkov | no te entiendo | 16:15 |
| vakkov | ;D | 16:15 |
| vakkov | beidl: que has hecho? | 16:16 |
| beidl | vakkov: ahahah :D | 16:16 |
| beidl | Ich habe Hunger :) | 16:17 |
| sledges | ir aš | 16:17 |
| beidl | :D | 16:17 |
| vakkov | beidl: soporte de audio que es adecuado and yo puedo usarlo? | 16:17 |
| vakkov | Млъквайте, бе! | 16:18 |
| beidl | vakkov: Kopfhörer funktionieren noch nicht :/ | 16:18 |
| beidl | xD | 16:18 |
| vakkov | por que? | 16:18 |
| alin | vakkov: beidl foff... | 16:18 |
| vakkov | k bro :D | 16:19 |
| beidl | yeah, sry :D | 16:19 |
| beidl | I'd like to put all maguro related packages (bluetooth, systemd) into an OBS repo, just for simplicity and easier self-compilation for users. | 16:29 |
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| vakkov | sledges: lbt: beidl and I are wondering what would the best solution for our modded systemd be | 16:29 |
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| vakkov | where should it be hosted, built, etc | 16:29 |
| dr_gogeta86 | hybris boot is not bootable | 16:30 |
| dr_gogeta86 | i need to check | 16:30 |
| vakkov | in such a way that it gets updated | 16:30 |
| sledges | vakkov: beidl: for now build it on Mer OBS just like situ does (on obs he's siteshwar) and eventually it will be promoted to nemo hw repos | 16:32 |
| beidl | sledges: alright, great :) the problem now: I'd really need an OBS account :D | 16:32 |
| sledges | beidl: silence from other porters means consent, im about to merge which LGTM: https://github.com/mer-hybris/droid-hal-device/pull/39 | 16:32 |
| beidl | sledges: nice, thank you :) | 16:33 |
| sledges | beidl: ah you haven't https://github.com/beidl/droid-hal-device/commit/0637196478b058f6ed845dd0e97cbc214cc288e4#diff-3644b8ee0098a32d192981312c3b21ecR37 ;p | 16:34 |
| beidl | oh yeah, right, will do it real quick | 16:34 |
| sledges | kl | 16:34 |
| lbt | beidl: see obs front page for details on account | 16:36 |
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| beidl | sledges: added tmpfiles for skipping the SUW on bootup | 16:50 |
| beidl | lbt: I will, thank you | 16:50 |
| sledges | beidl: what digests the ? /usr/lib/tmpfiles.d/skip-suw.conf | 16:56 |
| sledges | at any rate, this looks like best way to do it, rather than adding files to -maguro-configs/home/nemo messing up perms :) | 16:57 |
| sledges | so if it works/tested, i'm bout to merge | 16:57 |
| beidl | sledges: yup, tested. twice :D | 16:59 |
| sledges | merged once :) | 17:06 |
| beidl | sledges: nice, thanks :D | 17:07 |
| alin | sledges: did you commit the last systemd things? | 17:07 |
| * beidl hands beer to sledges | 17:07 | |
| sledges | beidl: Porter pls :)) | 17:08 |
| beidl | sledges: haha :D | 17:08 |
| sledges | alin: nope, still testing as we speak | 17:08 |
| alin | sledges: so you are in a reboot loop? | 17:08 |
| sledges | alin: can you reproduce the nasty stuck? | 17:08 |
| alin | sledges: which one? | 17:08 |
| sledges | alin: i never have gotten stuck today, but i keep rebooting | 17:08 |
| sledges | alin: see in wiki (word 'nasty') | 17:08 |
| alin | sledges: ok | 17:09 |
| sledges | *i keep rebooting manually to test | 17:09 |
| alin | sledges: nope never seen that one | 17:09 |
| alin | sledges: dmt finished his magic script | 17:10 |
| sledges | alin: i have all mods except sed -i "s;WantedBy;RequiredBy;g" /lib/systemd/system/system.mount | 17:10 |
| sledges | could you revert too and reboot couple of times to confirm we don't need this ^ ? | 17:11 |
| alin | sledges: ok you remove it from from wiki? | 17:11 |
| sledges | no so fast ;) | 17:11 |
| alin | sledges: ok... keep it there | 17:11 |
| alin | so you want to keep practically only the two lines sed and totally remove the system.mount sed ? | 17:12 |
| sledges | yes | 17:12 |
| alin | ok... I will have to go for a beer now.. but once home I will do | 17:12 |
| sledges | np, i'm to remove system.mount sed soon; enjoy porters beer! :)) | 17:17 |
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| dmt | after running the sdk and sdk ubu | 17:41 |
| dmt | a bunch of times | 17:41 |
| dmt | no more than 10 | 17:41 |
| dmt | mount | grep dbus | wc -l | 17:41 |
| dmt | 1022 | 17:41 |
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| sledges | dmt: i think you might've hit https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=842 | 17:44 |
| Merbot | Mer bug 842 in SDK "SDK mounts duplicates" [Major,New] | 17:44 |
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| dmt | my be i'm imagining, but i feel like my computer is getting a little jammed, and this hasn't happened before | 17:46 |
| dmt | before the recent messing with the sdks | 17:46 |
| sledges | dmt: pls report to that bug | 17:49 |
| sledges | also, do you have many mounts/rootfs splits in different partitions? | 17:50 |
| locusf | must be related to my system not being able to fork | 17:52 |
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| Sazpaimon | okay, time to re-do this port with a fresh ubuntu VM | 17:54 |
| Sazpaimon | Im guessing a lot of my issues were because I was using a system-wide mer sdk | 17:55 |
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| sledges | Sazpaimon: just make sure you are in the right target (search hadk for ssu lr) | 18:03 |
| locusf | I was rather wondering if hybris-11.0 would be another ubuntu chroot + targets | 18:04 |
| sledges | locusf: same ubuntu chroot | 18:04 |
| sledges | targets are one per device | 18:04 |
| locusf | sledges: ok | 18:05 |
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| swl | sledges: I've decided to start over yet again, and this time read the manual carefully. :P | 18:28 |
| swl | after a few more tries i should get a hang of this. :P | 18:28 |
| sledges | ;) have fun! | 18:34 |
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| piggz | vgrade: sledges: so, im ready for debugging pt 2! | 18:41 |
| piggz | any ideas? | 18:41 |
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| sledges | piggz: where did we stop? | 18:44 |
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| piggz | sledges: boot loops after a minute or so ... no net device is brought up | 18:48 |
| piggz | i can get the init.log | 18:48 |
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| piggz | this is the last init.log http://pastebin.com/R0Fk7k5v | 18:50 |
| sledges | piggz: boot into cm (if applicable, fastboot boot cm-boot.img from its .zip) and run /sbin/ifconfig there | 18:55 |
| sledges | (via adb will be fastest) | 18:55 |
| vgrade | hey | 18:55 |
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| dwangoAC | I've been completely out of touch - is there anything new for the Nexus 4? Please feel free to tell me to read an article or post. | 18:57 |
| vgrade | anyone plannig on attending, http://xda-devcon.com/ | 18:59 |
| vgrade | last day today to get deal on hotel package | 18:59 |
| sledges | piggz: or change /target/init-debug ifconfig line to read ifconfig -a | 19:01 |
| sledges | (that fix is already in master btw) | 19:01 |
| sledges | vgrade: hoy! | 19:02 |
| vgrade | sledges: | 19:02 |
| sledges | dwangoAC: hello and wb! is on its way out ;) | 19:02 |
| vgrade | \o | 19:02 |
| piggz | sledges: ifconfig prints nothing | 19:03 |
| sledges | piggz: ifconfig -a | 19:06 |
| piggz | sledges: no such device -a | 19:06 |
| piggz | netcfg however does print | 19:06 |
| sledges | piggz: are you in cm? | 19:06 |
| sledges | ok, what are the if names | 19:07 |
| piggz | http://uhanov.blogspot.co.uk/2009/11/android-ifconfig-vs-netcfg.html | 19:07 |
| piggz | cm 10.3 sr3 | 19:07 |
| sledges | fair play | 19:07 |
| piggz | sledges: http://pastebin.com/eM2fYGrT | 19:08 |
| sledges | piggz: connect usb cable, best if you enable dev mode and adb shell into it | 19:10 |
| sledges | and re-run netcfg | 19:10 |
| piggz | sledges: i am running in adb shell already | 19:10 |
| sledges | via usb or wlan? | 19:11 |
| piggz | usb | 19:12 |
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| sledges | how weird | 19:14 |
| vgrade | sledges: indeed | 19:15 |
| dwangoAC | sledges: As in, you are on your way out, or a release is on its way out? | 19:16 |
| sledges | piggz: what is on your host dmesg?? | 19:16 |
| dwangoAC | sledges: And, thanks for the welcome! | 19:16 |
| sledges | s/??/?/ | 19:16 |
| sledges | dwangoAC: the confusion bit was intended ;) | 19:16 |
| sledges | away from "soon" for a change :D | 19:17 |
| piggz | sledges: http://pastebin.com/5BcvdZvQ | 19:17 |
| dwangoAC | sledges: Heh - well, as always, I greatly appreciate all of your hard work on this | 19:17 |
| beidl | sledges: I just noticed we are missing one maguro-related repo in github/mer-hybris | 19:18 |
| beidl | <project path="device/samsung/tuna" name="CyanogenMod/android_device_samsung_tuna" revision="cm-10.1"> | 19:18 |
| sledges | beidl: ah the manifest, yes, still missing ;) as everything you kept so far was in your local one | 19:19 |
| beidl | it's split because tuna has a different revision for CDMA (toro, GSM=tuna) | 19:19 |
| sledges | any other repos? we need sorting BT and rfkill integration | 19:19 |
| beidl | I'll look into integrating the android patchram_plus repo into the build process | 19:19 |
| beidl | I guess we can ignore the rfkill one. a simple echo 1 > state should be enough | 19:20 |
| piggz | sledges: | 19:20 |
| piggz | piggz@linux-teo5:~> adb devices -l | 19:20 |
| piggz | List of devices attached | 19:20 |
| piggz | HT0C3RX22683 device usb:3-2 product:htc_ace model:Desire_HD device:ace | 19:20 |
| sledges | beidl: junnuvi_ has re-used both ;) just fyi | 19:20 |
| beidl | sledges: oh, alright then :) I'll look into it then. | 19:21 |
| beidl | sledges: means that device.mk's would have to be modified though, right? | 19:21 |
| piggz | sledges: if i enable usb-tethering on the phone then i get a net device, usb0 | 19:22 |
| piggz | usb0 UP 192.168.42.129/24 0x00001043 2e:53:3a:b5:bb:84 | 19:22 |
| vgrade | piggz: do you have a link to your android device repo/ | 19:23 |
| vgrade | ? | 19:23 |
| piggz | vgrade: https://github.com/AceEnablementProject | 19:23 |
| piggz | there are tags for 10.1 | 19:24 |
| sledges | piggz: don't see rndis/cdc_*/usb0 devices/modules appearing on your host dmesg when you plug cable into cm in order to adb.... | 19:24 |
| beidl | sledges: do we want to build brcm_p_p and rfkill as part of the kernel/hal build or as part of the pattern/rootfs build? | 19:24 |
| sledges | beidl: projects with Android.mk - mka build | 19:25 |
| sledges | beidl: projects with Makefiles - rootfs, but no idea how to automate those | 19:25 |
| beidl | sledges: I'll make repos with a Android.mk and be done ;) | 19:26 |
| vgrade | piggz: in adb can you look in the stowaway root for init.rc | 19:27 |
| vgrade | I'm wondering if its including https://github.com/AceEnablementProject/android_device_htc_msm7x30-common/blob/cm-10.1/init.htc7x30.usb.rc | 19:27 |
| piggz | hmm, i dont have permission in /data | 19:28 |
| beidl | sledges: I found one in the old android-wifi-tether project, but it's in a sub directory. means we would have to go without its git history | 19:28 |
| beidl | for rfkill | 19:28 |
| sledges | is fine, as you said, trivial | 19:29 |
| piggz | vgrade: http://pastebin.com/r5V7hUbc init.tc taken from my build dir | 19:33 |
| sledges | piggz: how does your host show the usb0, could you grep dmesg for it pls? | 19:34 |
| piggz | sledges: after enbling usb-techer? | 19:35 |
| sledges | piggz: yes | 19:35 |
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| sledges | whoops :) | 19:37 |
| piggz | sledges: http://pastebin.com/NUY4krNq | 19:37 |
| piggz | sledges: thats what usb-tethering does :) | 19:37 |
| sledges | piggz: ok cool | 19:37 |
| sledges | piggz: and dmesg on target? | 19:37 |
| beidl | sledges: patchram_plus is in here: https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_system_bluetooth | 19:37 |
| piggz | sledges: i havnt got permission on target | 19:38 |
| beidl | sledges: should we straight up fork it or get rid of the other components? | 19:38 |
| sledges | piggz: did you disable iirc ANDROID_PARANOID_NETWORK CONFIG_ flag? | 19:38 |
| sledges | beidl: are those massively coming in a way? | 19:38 |
| sledges | piggz: su | 19:38 |
| piggz | sledges: | 19:40 |
| piggz | piggz@linux-teo5:~/mer/android/droid> cat kernel/htc/htc7x30-3.0/arch/arm/configs/spade_defconfig | grep PARAN | 19:40 |
| piggz | # CONFIG_ANDROID_PARANOID_NETWORK is not set | 19:41 |
| piggz | CONFIG_MMC_PARANOID_SD_INIT=y | 19:41 |
| beidl | sledges: they wouldn't block the build I guess. but things like bluez headers and bluedroid (things that nobody other than android uses) are not really needed | 19:41 |
| sledges | vgrade: i remember when commenting out #import *usb* in /init*.rc worked to get network back, but it should be there in -recovery regardless.. something is not creating if.. (cc piggz ) | 19:41 |
| piggz | sledges: should i try to boot the recovery img? | 19:42 |
| sledges | piggz: go for it, touch /init_enter_debug in stowaways/sailfoshos | 19:43 |
| sledges | and reboot - boom you're in recovery | 19:43 |
| piggz | ah, i found how to enable su in adb :) | 19:45 |
| sledges | gud :) | 19:45 |
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| piggz | sledges: init.log with that option set http://pastebin.com/usQ8GEYQ | 19:51 |
| sledges | piggz: which option sorry? | 19:54 |
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| piggz | sledges: init_enter_debug | 20:17 |
| sledges | 22:01 < sledges> piggz: or change /target/init-debug ifconfig line to read ifconfig -a | 20:18 |
| sledges | piggz: (in stowaways/sailfishos/init-debug that is) | 20:19 |
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| alin | sledges: reboot time | 20:24 |
| alin | sledges: I reverted on the live system | 20:24 |
| alin | sledges: I did not build a new image | 20:24 |
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| alin_ | sledges: done | 20:28 |
| alin_ | sledges: unfortunately not porter beer... just normal german beer | 20:28 |
| alin_ | sledges: just a short meeting with a friend who came from iceland... | 20:28 |
| sledges | ;) and not guiness!? :D | 20:28 |
| alin_ | sledges:no guiness... that is for tourists | 20:29 |
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| alin_ | sledges: anyhow the points is.... replaced reuired by wanted and booted three times in a row | 20:29 |
| alin_ | no loop | 20:29 |
| alin_ | sledges: also can we disable time_daemon? | 20:30 |
| sledges | alin_: btw it's not loop, it's stuck ;) | 20:30 |
| sledges | alin_: but time_daemon for now if it's there or not - doesn't disturb? | 20:30 |
| sledges | and maybe we'll need to use it to program clock in a ways we can't imagine (remember it's qcom's closed blob) | 20:31 |
| alin_ | sledges: maybe | 20:31 |
| alin_ | sledges: if its there spams the log | 20:31 |
| alin_ | sledges: if is not there does not seem to mind | 20:31 |
| alin_ | situ: any progress on the rime? | 20:32 |
| alin_ | sledges: anyhow let us sort the systemd first | 20:32 |
| sledges | tbr: is there a serial console guide for nexus5? | 20:34 |
| sledges | i think you've had a link | 20:34 |
| sledges | in addition to mako | 20:34 |
| piggz | vgrade: btw, you mentioned that init file | 20:40 |
| piggz | /data/.stowaways/sailfishos # ls init* | 20:40 |
| piggz | init-debug init.log init.usb.rc | 20:40 |
| piggz | init-debug-stderrout init.rc init_enter_debug | 20:40 |
| piggz | init.cm.rc init.spade.rc | 20:40 |
| piggz | init.htc7x30.usb.rc init.trace.rc | 20:40 |
| sledges | piggz: nah, you should first get into recovery | 20:42 |
| sledges | just edit init-debug and add -a to ifconfig | 20:42 |
| sledges | reboot, and paste /init.log | 20:43 |
| vgrade | piggz: was just checking if the usb rc had been correctly commented out | 20:44 |
| tbr | sledges: not aware, but should be the same | 20:44 |
| tbr | sledges: refer to that other blog post how to apply the 3V (to avoid frying) | 20:45 |
| tbr | sledges: if there are schematics or a service manual, then it can be checked | 20:46 |
| sledges | vgrade: in recovery it doesn't get to init scripts yet | 20:47 |
| sledges | :/ | 20:47 |
| vgrade | sledges: was checking for switch_root=yes case | 20:48 |
| sledges | m? | 20:49 |
| sledges | both his recovery and post switch_root are without network interfaces | 20:49 |
| sledges | but | 20:49 |
| vgrade | oh I'd not seen recovery log | 20:49 |
| sledges | because we don't have it at hand | 20:49 |
| sledges | because it never stop there :) | 20:49 |
| sledges | but | 20:50 |
| sledges | was gonna say | 20:50 |
| sledges | we should make one by redirecting to /target/from_recovery.log | 20:50 |
| sledges | (unless there is something like that already?) | 20:50 |
| vgrade | nod | 20:50 |
| vgrade | looking at .config now | 20:51 |
| sledges | oki | 20:51 |
| sledges | it has to run config check in recovery too | 20:51 |
| vgrade | so manu usb options | 20:52 |
| vgrade | many | 20:52 |
| sledges | yep, but since it re-uses cm's .config, usb gadget and cdc/ether should be in and work | 20:53 |
| sledges | we could double-check how "write $ANDROID_USB/functions" & Co look in cm | 20:53 |
| piggz | sledges: i chnged that line, but i dont think init.log is being generated | 20:55 |
| piggz | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 46.1K Jul 29 21:34 init.log | 20:55 |
| sledges | piggz: remove init_enter_debug | 20:55 |
| vgrade | sledges: piggz hamerhead , https://github.com/siteshwar/android_kernel_lge_hammerhead/blob/hybris-11.0/arch/arm/configs/cyanogenmod_hammerhead_defconfig#L1462 | 21:01 |
| piggz | vgrade: sledges: http://pastebin.com/daLwQTeJ | 21:01 |
| vgrade | mako, https://github.com/siteshwar/android_kernel_lge_hammerhead/blob/hybris-11.0/arch/arm/configs/cyanogenmod_hammerhead_defconfig#L1462 | 21:01 |
| vgrade | mako | 21:02 |
| vgrade | https://github.com/mer-hybris/lge-kernel-mako/blob/hybris-10.1/arch/arm/configs/mako_defconfig | 21:02 |
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| vgrade | ace does not have this option set | 21:02 |
| piggz | vgrade: ta | 21:02 |
| vgrade | tuna, https://github.com/mer-hybris/android_kernel_samsung_tuna/blob/hybris-10.1/arch/arm/configs/cyanogenmod_tuna_defconfig#L1238 | 21:03 |
| piggz | vgrade: I already set that locally, here is y config http://pastebin.com/gqZvc4ix | 21:06 |
| piggz | vgrade: this is the .config from the build http://pastebin.com/BswRQbKp | 21:08 |
| vgrade | piggz: sorry I was looking at one of you old pasties | 21:10 |
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| piggz | so, what do you make of my net devices? | 21:20 |
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| vgrade | piggz: same as sledges , don't know where usb0 and rndis are. Interestig that tether gievs you usb0 | 21:23 |
| sledges | vgrade: is fine, they can be called at will | 21:24 |
| Nokius | sledges: What about adding the WIP Devices to the Mer/wiki section SailfishOS ? | 21:25 |
| sledges | piggz: googling looks promising: gannet0(DOWN) 192.168.1.2/2 | 21:25 |
| sledges | 4 | 21:25 |
| sledges | piggz: change rmdis0 to gannet0 in init-debug and reboot | 21:25 |
| sledges | Nokius: hmmm we could! | 21:27 |
| sledges | systemise from http://tinyurl.com/xda-hadk-news if you volunteer | 21:27 |
| sledges | ;) | 21:27 |
| Nokius | okay will have a look there tomorrow :) | 21:30 |
| Nokius | ah get an acc via MerBugzilla :) | 21:32 |
| Nokius | sledges: just see the find5 lacks http://tinyurl.com/xda-hadk-news need to get this fixed too ^^ | 21:35 |
| sledges | ;DP | 21:35 |
| sledges | if only it was that easy, it'd be already up and running ;) | 21:35 |
| sledges | i suggest you take approach of https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris | 21:36 |
| sledges | and create https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris-WIP | 21:36 |
| sledges | with extra columns | 21:36 |
| sledges | like porters | 21:36 |
| sledges | link to piratepad/wiki if that effort | 21:36 |
| sledges | *of | 21:36 |
| sledges | keep it simple, i don't think we need those hw components - too much to maintain | 21:37 |
| sledges | just few columns in general | 21:37 |
| sledges | codename | device | porters | status | links | 21:37 |
| Nokius | sounds like a plan | 21:38 |
| sledges | suggestions welcome :) | 21:38 |
| Nokius | had the same idea | 21:38 |
| sledges | good man, thanks! | 21:39 |
| Nokius | may a column for for problems | 21:39 |
| sledges | that would go to status/links no? but you can add extra column - notes; for anything immediately needed | 21:40 |
| sledges | ah also, a column of status upstream | 21:40 |
| vgrade | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris is WIP | 21:40 |
| sledges | we might even subdivide into: droid-hal-device | hybris-boot | android manifest | | 21:40 |
| sledges | vgrade: but we need staging if that makes sense | 21:41 |
| Nokius | but we can add more latter guess this will help other posible poters to see if the can help other or can start with a new device | 21:41 |
| sledges | with porters' names etc | 21:41 |
| vgrade | not really | 21:41 |
| vgrade | its all WIP | 21:41 |
| sledges | vgrade: well today we had a case of guys nearing a release of maguro, but not remembering to commit android manifest upstream | 21:42 |
| Nokius | guess "codename | device | porters | status | notes | links" will do the most for now | 21:42 |
| sledges | it will also help promoting within obs to nemo:hw | 21:42 |
| sledges | also, when someone new comes, asks what devices are we working and who is on a team for a device - such table will be handy as can't fit in brain anymore :)) | 21:43 |
| vgrade | sledges: so which devices would you have on https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris | 21:43 |
| vgrade | and what is the criteria | 21:43 |
| sledges | vgrade: those whose adaptations landed on nemo:hw | 21:43 |
| Nokius | sledges: yeah guess this will help the can see how is working on what and may he can help | 21:43 |
| sledges | so they are reprodicible | 21:43 |
| vgrade | for moving from staging to stable | 21:44 |
| sledges | alterego wanted such table on the day we released hadk already :)) | 21:44 |
| sledges | vgrade: you'd like to add columns to existing table instead? | 21:45 |
| vgrade | sledges: if we have two tables we need to set rules | 21:45 |
| sledges | 00:43 < sledges> vgrade: those whose adaptations landed on nemo:hw | 21:46 |
| sledges | 00:44 < vgrade> for moving from staging to stable | 21:46 |
| sledges | :) | 21:46 |
| vgrade | nemo:hw | 21:47 |
| vgrade | or nemo:devl:hw | 21:48 |
| sledges | nemo:devel:hw lbt is promoting encore as a role model now | 21:48 |
| alin_ | sledges: vgrade gps is listed as yes... which is not really accurate? | 21:49 |
| vgrade | ok then we need to slim down https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris and set some gate criteris | 21:49 |
| vgrade | alin_: works for me | 21:49 |
| piggz | sledges: vgrade: my boot no stops at: | 21:50 |
| piggz | + /sbin/ifconfig gannet0 192.168.2.1 | 21:50 |
| alin_ | vgrade: are you sure> | 21:50 |
| vgrade | yes, on u5 | 21:50 |
| alin_ | vgrade: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Building_Sailfish_OS_for_Nexus_5 | 21:50 |
| alin_ | vgrade: now works no more | 21:50 |
| sledges | vgrade: Nokius: o dear people already updated that, haven't opened it for ages, which we can see as positive ;) now i see where you're coming from vgrade | 21:51 |
| vgrade | test_gps took a few mins to get lock but after that I got nmea sat and position data | 21:51 |
| sledges | and now i'd veer to keep it all in a single multi-massive column table x) to minimise effort and set of rules, yet table will be huuge :) | 21:51 |
| vgrade | sledges: maybe the top level page lists all devices and then you can drill down to detail | 21:52 |
| alin_ | vgrade: time stamp is crazy | 21:52 |
| sledges | ah, alterego said something about collapsing columns fu ^_^ | 21:52 |
| piggz | gnight gents :) | 21:53 |
| sledges | every device having its own wiki page would swing us back to the nice Mer/Nemo Community_Workspace times :) | 21:54 |
| vgrade | alin_: maybe related to wall clock issue. If device does not have approx time then it wont fetch the right almanac and assisted GPS won't work | 21:54 |
| sledges | piggz: nnight, well first stab at ifconfig didn't work, continue next time! | 21:55 |
| vgrade | sledges: I discussed this with lbt a few days ago where would be best to capture the WIP, porters | 21:55 |
| Nokius | but is this not to much page with pure quality ? newbies are not intreated in checkin dozen of wikipages :-/ or? | 21:55 |
| sledges | Nokius: newbies will go to the page of their device, job done | 21:56 |
| Nokius | yeah | 21:56 |
| vgrade | I like http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Devices | 21:56 |
| sledges | if extra curious, they will browse around, just for better | 21:56 |
| Nokius | but the mer wiki is a bit far away from the quality of the cm one :-/ | 21:56 |
| sledges | i like the table as-is, with hyperlinks to each device's wiki in the name column | 21:57 |
| sledges | if number of devices grow, we'll install plugins that cm's wiki has ;) | 21:57 |
| Nokius | but we can try to get a wiki like this (quality and usability) | 21:57 |
| vgrade | Nokius: but concept, device, drill down, get repos, build instructions, test results | 21:57 |
| sledges | vgrade: they use templates, heavily | 21:57 |
| Nokius | sure | 21:57 |
| sledges | which is a good thing | 21:57 |
| sledges | lots of infra though | 21:57 |
| sledges | a longer term project ;) | 21:58 |
| Nokius | yes | 21:58 |
| sledges | now we just need to contain the flood gates of initial info pouring in | 21:58 |
| vgrade | sledges: nod. and current table is not sustainable | 21:59 |
| Nokius | may we / you have to discuses how the wiki will look like in future than we can try to get this done | 21:59 |
| sledges | we can offer a Device_template wiki page, with all those porters/issues/upstream-status columns as sections | 21:59 |
| vgrade | good idea , and that would allow future beutification (sp) | 22:00 |
| sledges | yep, some easing | 22:01 |
| Nokius | for me the mer wiki looks a bit messy and its hard to get information (may user will go away just dune to this fact) | 22:01 |
| Nokius | oky will leave here | gn8 cu tommorow | 22:02 |
| vgrade | Nokius: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris is a wel known starting point | 22:02 |
| vgrade | Nokius: nn | 22:02 |
| vgrade | sledges: if you go to the http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Device page | 22:05 |
| Nokius | vgrade: but its not linked to main page | hm so i was saying messy I know its hard to get a good wiki | 22:05 |
| vgrade | Nokius: I suppose its not really Mer | 22:06 |
| vgrade | but thats another conversation | 22:06 |
| Sazpaimon | sometimes i feel like I'm reading a "choose your own adventure" book when reading the HADK with all the page jumping I have to do | 22:06 |
| vgrade | sledges: bottom right link [Expand] | 22:06 |
| sledges | Sazpaimon: Chapter 2, bottom ;p | 22:07 |
| Sazpaimon | indeed | 22:07 |
| Nokius | bad liking of articles creates a lot of hidden information but may a a few of them are useful but invisebile | 22:07 |
| sledges | vgrade: my thought exactly, though solidified, nice! | 22:08 |
| vgrade | Sazpaimon: I think that comes because its trying to cater for two readeships, a) people who want to create their own images from existing HA and b) people who want to create a new HA | 22:08 |
| Nokius | Sazpaimon: true ^^ | 22:08 |
| Nokius | cu | 22:08 |
| sledges | Nokius: this time, from libhybris/Adaptations landing page PoV we're gonna do everything "right"! ;D | 22:09 |
| vgrade | nn all | 22:13 |
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