| PureTryOut[m] | *Looks like Phosh actually. PureOS is just another Linux distribution 😉 | 06:28 |
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| PureTryOut[m] | Silica being proprietary means it'll never be considered by the other Qt based systems | 06:28 |
| Alexander[m]6 | <SergeyChupligin4 "Oh....Qt want be closed-sources"> You're about https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/kde-community/2020q2/006098.html ? | 07:56 |
| PureTryOut[m] | https://github.com/nemomobile-ux/glacier-camera/pull/2 | 07:56 |
| PureTryOut[m] | Desperate times desperate measures I guess. Then again, dropping LTS in the FOSS releases was done before Corona and sounds like it was done for the same reason: more money | 07:57 |
| SergeyChupligin4 | > <Alexander> You're about https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/kde-community/2020q2/006098.html ? | 07:58 |
| SergeyChupligin4 | > Let's wait 💁♂️. I can't believe that The Qt Company management can be that stupid to go this far. 😞 | 07:58 |
| SergeyChupligin4 | Oh kmoon they chose this way over year ago when drop lts versions | 07:58 |
| Alexander[m]6 | <SergeyChupligin4 "> <Alexander> You're about https"> Year ago = this January. | 07:58 |
| Alexander[m]6 | * Year ago = this January. | 07:59 |
| Alexander[m]6 | (ok, the date doesn't matter) | 07:59 |
| SergeyChupligin4 | sed 's/Q/K/' main.cpp as solution ^_^ | 07:59 |
| SergeyChupligin4 | > <Alexander> Year ago = this January. | 07:59 |
| SergeyChupligin4 | > (ok, the date doesn't matter) | 07:59 |
| SergeyChupligin4 | steep by steep like SCO ^_^ | 07:59 |
| PureTryOut[m] | Sergey Игоревич Chupligin: in regards to https://github.com/nemomobile-ux/libglacierapp/pull/4#issuecomment-611351664 | 07:59 |
| PureTryOut[m] | Seems there is something wrong with the Sailfish Qt5Qml packaging? It depends on Qt5Declarative but that doesn't seem to be installed | 07:59 |
| Alexander[m]6 | > <@bart:fam-ribbers.com> Sergey Игоревич Chupligin: in regards to https://github.com/nemomobile-ux/libglacierapp/pull/4#issuecomment-611351664 | 08:00 |
| Alexander[m]6 | > Seems there is something wrong with the Sailfish Qt5Qml packaging? It depends on Qt5Declarative but that doesn't seem to be installed | 08:00 |
| Alexander[m]6 | I'm answering on the github. | 08:00 |
| Alexander[m]6 | * I'm answering on the github. | 08:00 |
| Alexander[m]6 | (not sent yet) | 08:00 |
| PureTryOut[m] | 👍️ | 08:00 |
| SergeyChupligin4 | it maybe my packaging error of qtdeclarative....but i am not shure.... | 08:03 |
| AndrewBranson[m4 | <SergeyChupligin4 "> <Alexander> You're about https"> nah that's not the same. LTS is a business focused thing anyway - FOSS projects like to stay on the bleeding edge. | 08:03 |
| SergeyChupligin4 | <Pablo[m] "Give me the features (and the bu"> use nemo with Qt 5.12 hehe | 08:03 |
| PureTryOut[m] | Sergey Игоревич Chupligin: btw once CMake packaging is in, could you make a new release of the applications that have been switched? | 08:03 |
| AndrewBranson[m4 | exactly. the lts move was a good one. this is insane. | 08:04 |
| AndrewBranson[m4 | they must be really short on cash | 08:04 |
| SergeyChupligin4 | <PureTryOut[m] "Sergey Игоревич Chupligin: btw o"> yea...of cause | 08:04 |
| PureTryOut[m] | Awesome 👍️ | 08:04 |
| Alexander[m]6 | Well, I'll answer here without a link to the source code for now. | 08:08 |
| Alexander[m]6 | In CMake there is one whole Qt5Qml with tools and plugins. In RPM there are a lot of granular files: https://build.merproject.org/package/binaries/home:neochapay:mer:qt56/qtdeclarative?repository=latest_i486 | 08:08 |
| Alexander[m]6 | Qt5QmlConfig.cmake references to many files from many RPMs. | 08:08 |
| PureTryOut[m] | I'm not sure why this wasn't a problem with qmake though | 08:08 |
| PureTryOut[m] | So to fix it, I guess RPM needs `BuildRequires: pkgconfig(QtDeclarative)` or something? | 08:08 |
| Alexander[m]6 | <PureTryOut[m] "So to fix it, I guess RPM needs "> This won't help. CMake FindModule creates targets which reference to all plugins. Later on CMake validates the targets and fails because the referenced files not found. | 08:12 |
| PureTryOut[m] | Or `BuildRequires: qt5-qtdeclarative-tool-qml` I guess? | 08:12 |
| Alexander[m]6 | * I've already spent 20 minutes trying to find this .cmake file and I have to give up. I have to do my own sprint tasks for a demonstration tomorrow. 😞 | 08:38 |
| PureTryOut[m] | Sergey Игоревич Chupligin: something for you to look into then ☝︎ | 08:38 |
| SergeyChupligin4 | [SB2 sdk-build nemo-aarch64] root@neochapay-ThinkPad-T440 lipstick # rpm -qf /usr/lib/cmake/Qt5Qml/Qt5Qml_QDebugMessageServiceFactory.cmake | 08:50 |
| SergeyChupligin4 | qt5-qtdeclarative-devel-5.12.7-1.3.10.aarch64 | 08:50 |
| * SergeyChupligin4 sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/aqgFpIqqKTJcPNgPxDlEFtIT > | 08:51 | |
| Alexander[m]6 | <SergeyChupligin4 "qt5-qtdeclarative-devel"> I don't see how this could be. | 08:51 |
| Alexander[m]6 | <SergeyChupligin4 "> <Alexander> On the other hand,"> Oh, OK. I was looking at https://build.merproject.org/package/view_file/home:neochapay:mer:qt56/qtdeclarative/_service:tar_git:qtdeclarative.spec?expand=1 | 08:51 |
| SergeyChupligin4 | <Alexander[m]6 "Oh, OK. I was looking at https:/"> 5.12 now | 08:51 |
| Alexander[m]6 | <SergeyChupligin4 "qt5-qtdeclarative-devel"> On the other hand, all other factories are part of plugin-qmlinspector so I would say that this file should be moved there too. | 08:51 |
| SergeyChupligin4 | <Alexander[m]6 "Oh, OK. I was looking at https:/"> https://build.merproject.org/package/view_file/home:neochapay:mer:qt/qtdeclarative/_service:tar_git:qtdeclarative.spec?expand=1 | 08:51 |
| PureTryOut[m] | <SergeyChupligin4 "but i think we need move it into"> Yes it does! One place for all information 👍️ | 08:51 |
| PureTryOut[m] | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Glacier/Installing on that page, "Sailfish OS emulator" links to a non existing page. What is the correct URL? | 09:15 |
| aa13q | <PureTryOut[m] "https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki"> probably this: https://releases.sailfishos.org/sdk/emulators/ | 09:20 |
| PureTryOut[m] | Sergey Игоревич Chupligin: https://github.com/nemomobile-ux/nemomobile-ux.github.io/pull/7 | 09:45 |
| SergeyChupligin4 | <PureTryOut[m] "Sergey Игоревич Chupligin: https"> Sweet | 09:46 |
| PureTryOut[m] | The instructions seem a bit dated though, mentioning SailfishOS 2.1.x.x still (3.x.x.x has been out for who knows how long now) and Ubuntu 14.04 as verified SDK platform | 09:46 |
| PureTryOut[m] | Hmm the homepage needs some screenshots really | 09:48 |
| SergeyChupligin4 | <PureTryOut[m] "Sergey Игоревич Chupligin: https"> Mergecd | 10:07 |
| SergeyChupligin4 | need add instuctions how to installing on necunos and other | 10:07 |
| PureTryOut[m] | Yeah same for postmarketOS and Arch once the packaging is finished | 10:07 |
| PureTryOut[m] | I'll add postmarketOS later, others have to do the other distributions | 10:07 |
| SergeyChupligin4 | https://www.qt.io/blog/qt-and-open-source | 10:20 |
| Pablo[m]2 | that's a short post | 10:20 |
| PureTryOut[m] | Way too short... They need to elaborate more | 10:21 |
| PureTryOut[m] | https://github.com/nemomobile-ux/glacier-gallery/pull/8 | 10:33 |
| PureTryOut[m] | Btw Sergey Игоревич Chupligin note that if you make a new release with a CMake package, increase the version in CMakeLists.txt as well | 10:34 |
| PureTryOut[m] | Where does `agent.h` come from? https://github.com/nemomobile-ux/glacier-home/blob/devel/src/bluetooth/bluetoothagent.h#L7 | 11:31 |
| Alexander[m]6 | <PureTryOut[m] "Where does `agent.h` come from? "> Seems to be KF5BluezQt. | 11:33 |
| PureTryOut[m] | Nope | 11:33 |
| PureTryOut[m] | Installed it, linked against it, still not there. KF5BluezQt doesn't have that file either | 11:33 |
| * PureTryOut[m] sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/MlbLzsyTLwNXJVsUreJimhTK > | 11:39 | |
| * Alexander[m]6 sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/CruXVOQgDuTopbiGNAKHealj > | 11:41 | |
| PureTryOut[m] | Well yeah I know, I have that installed, and the required stuff from ECM added to CMakeLists.txt | 11:41 |
| PureTryOut[m] | My current WIP CmakeLists.txt: https://github.com/PureTryOut/glacier-home/blob/cmake/CMakeLists.txt | 11:44 |
| * aa13q sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/MsGLJJWCjADTtwljAmYAYSxI > | 11:51 | |
| PureTryOut[m] | Ah you're reight | 11:52 |
| PureTryOut[m] | * Ah you're right | 11:52 |
| Alexander[m]6 | <PureTryOut[m] "Installed it, linked against it,"> But you said "KF5BluezQt doesn't have that file either" 💁♂️😂. | 11:58 |
| PureTryOut[m] | Alexander: yeah idk my search didn't find it 😂 | 11:58 |
| PureTryOut[m] | Hmm seems glacier-home expects some older version of KF5BluezQt as well. Used API call got removed | 12:00 |
| * aa13q imagines some glacier-home mascot that is happy dancing right now that somebody is talking about to update it to upstream Qt similar to lipstick and other packages 😅 | 12:04 | |
| aa13q | `agent.h` is too abstract to just hope the system will find it automatically by the way. For example, I have several 'agent.h` in my system: from bluez-qt, connman and libnice %) | 12:07 |
| aa13q | * `agent.h` is too abstract to just hope the system will find it automatically by the way. For example, I have several `agent.h` in my system: from bluez-qt, connman and libnice %) | 12:08 |
| PureTryOut[m] | aa13q: btw how did you get libdsme compiling? I have nothing but issues with it | 12:18 |
| PureTryOut[m] | I need https://git.sailfishos.org/mer-core/libdsme/merge_requests/7 to fix the library symlinks and stuff, but then lipstick still links to a non-existent file for some reason | 12:19 |
| PureTryOut[m] | Ah fixed it, that MR was incomplete | 12:26 |
| PureTryOut[m] | Build glacier-home successfully with CMake now | 12:26 |
| PureTryOut[m] | * Built glacier-home successfully with CMake now | 12:26 |
| * aa13q sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/CCyAFjkcFXYVwFUaUfHZSmyd > | 12:27 | |
| PureTryOut[m] | > /usr/lib/libdsme.so.0 | 12:28 |
| PureTryOut[m] | That exists for you? Wut? | 12:28 |
| PureTryOut[m] | * > /usr/lib/libdsme.so.0 | 12:28 |
| PureTryOut[m] | That exists for you? Wut? | 12:28 |
| PureTryOut[m] | * > /usr/lib/libdsme.so.0 | 12:28 |
| PureTryOut[m] | That exists for you? Wut? | 12:28 |
| aa13q | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ should look more careful, but yeah, it's here, rebuilded a minute ago | 12:29 |
| PureTryOut[m] | https://github.com/nemomobile-ux/glacier-home/pull/124 | 12:31 |
| aa13q | <PureTryOut[m] "https://github.com/nemomobile-ux"> awesome! | 12:32 |
| aa13q | * ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I should look more careful, but yeah, it's here, rebuilded a minute ago | 12:33 |
| PureTryOut[m] | <aa13q "¯\_(ツ)_/¯ should look more caref"> Ok wtf. | 12:36 |
| * PureTryOut[m] sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/czjMojlokTOIfDLvgdCRWGqX > | 12:40 | |
| SergeyChupligin4 | <PureTryOut[m] "https://github.com/nemomobile-ux"> But it not broke build on sfos, current nemo? | 12:41 |
| PureTryOut[m] | Sergey Игоревич Chupligin: SFOS, current Nemo, doesn't use Qt 5.14 which probably makes the qDebug thing not as much of a problem. And you're almost definitely using an old BluezQt | 12:41 |
| * PureTryOut[m] sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/iDgxWdFeNITzykLBfDgDWbYH > | 12:53 | |
| PureTryOut[m] | WAit, aa13q do you use https://git.archlinux.org/svntogit/community.git/tree/trunk/PKGBUILD?h=packages/libdsme#n31 or your custom packaging? | 13:04 |
| PureTryOut[m] | * Wait, aa13q do you use https://git.archlinux.org/svntogit/community.git/tree/trunk/PKGBUILD?h=packages/libdsme#n31 or your custom packaging? | 13:04 |
| aa13q | <PureTryOut[m] "WAit, aa13q do you use https://g"> whoah, nice catch! it's my dirty system, sorry for misleading! | 13:20 |
| PureTryOut[m] | 👍️ | 13:22 |
| aa13q | so `/usr/lib/libdsme.so.0` doen't mapped to any package in my system, I hurried and probably added some dirty hack the other day %) I should completly switch to clean chroot, sorry 😅 | 13:22 |
| PureTryOut[m] | As far as I'm concerned, the Sailfish package is broken. Arch fixes it in the packaging, and for now I will too. But we should definitely get a fix upstream | 13:23 |
| aa13q | Sergey, any hints why mer-core is still on bluez4? Looks like bluez5 is GPL2 too? 🤔 Maybe technical limitations or just not in our scope yet? | 13:34 |
| aa13q | Hmm, probably something about old kernels (less than 3.13) for some devices and ble support: https://together.jolla.com/question/8589/proper-bluetooth-le-support/ | 13:38 |
| aa13q | <PureTryOut[m] "Sergey Игоревич Chupligin: SFOS,"> it looks like bluez5 is here https://git.sailfishos.org/mer-core/bluez5 and bluez4 is for compatibility reasons | 13:44 |
| aa13q | > <@bart:fam-ribbers.com> Sergey Игоревич Chupligin: SFOS, current Nemo, doesn't use Qt 5.14 which probably makes the qDebug thing not as much of a problem. And you're almost definitely using an old BluezQt | 13:45 |
| aa13q | * it looks like bluez5 is here https://git.sailfishos.org/mer-core/bluez5 (from Sailfish 2.0 or later) and bluez4 is for compatibility reasons | 13:45 |
| aa13q | <PureTryOut[m] "Way too short... They need to el"> I'm also interested in the details. As far as I understood, the main not solved task in general for a long-long time is not about commercial/open-source. It is more about the gray zone where both commercial and open-source parts are not covering the projects enough (for the projects like qt creator). And it probably is very valuable if all the grey parts would be formalized | 14:09 |
| aa13q | better. I could be wrong with my thoughts. | 14:09 |
| aa13q | > <@bart:fam-ribbers.com> Way too short... They need to elaborate more | 14:10 |
| aa13q | * I'm also interested in the details. As far as I understood, the main not solved task in general for a long-long time is not about commercial vs open-source. It is more about the gray zone where both commercial and open-source parts are not covering the projects enough (for the projects like qt creator). And it probably is very valuable if all the grey parts would be formalized better. I could be wrong with my thoughts. | 14:10 |
| PureTryOut[m] | Nexus 5 runs awesome on mainline actually, so you should probably move to it 😉 | 14:14 |
| PureTryOut[m] | <SergeyChupligin4 "Oh sweeet kfbluez from upstream "> Well of course. KDE has no reason to care about Bluez4 anymore whatsoever | 14:14 |
| PureTryOut[m] | That's not bad at all 😉 | 14:27 |
| PureTryOut[m] | * That's not bad at all | 14:27 |
| PureTryOut[m] | The bad thing is those old devices never being mainlined and using old-ass kernels | 14:28 |
| aa13q | <SergeyChupligin4 "baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad but yea."> cool!) 👍️ | 14:29 |
| mal | PureTryOut[m]: how is the battery life on nexus 5 with mainline? | 14:45 |
| mal | just wondering | 14:45 |
| PureTryOut[m] | No clue, haven't tried it myself yet | 14:46 |
| PureTryOut[m] | And then it of course depends on the userland you're running as well. I can only test Plasma Mobile or Phosh on postmarketOS | 14:46 |
| PureTryOut[m] | https://github.com/nemomobile-ux/glacier-settings/pull/20 | 14:46 |
| PureTryOut[m] | Now let's see if I can get it actually running in some form | 14:48 |
| PureTryOut[m] | Any instructions? | 14:48 |
| SergeyChupligin4 | <PureTryOut[m] "https://github.com/nemomobile-ux"> https://github.com/neochapay/glacier-home/commit/9bb1349e9b07fe88bae051c115f96c12d2a9fdca | 16:17 |
| PureTryOut[m] | Oh sure that'll work too, I'll add it to my PR | 16:17 |
| SergeyChupligin4 | i was try and all is well | 16:23 |
| PureTryOut[m] | Added your changes now | 16:23 |
| SergeyChupligin4 | <PureTryOut[m] "Added your changes now"> Forgot BuildRequires: extra-cmake-modules >= 5.68.0 | 16:25 |
| PureTryOut[m] | Oh you're reight | 16:26 |
| PureTryOut[m] | * Oh you're right | 16:26 |
| SergeyChupligin4 | And -DCMAKE_INSTALL_LIBDIR=%{_lib} -> -DCMAKE_INSTALL_LIBDIR=%{_libdir} | 16:27 |
| PureTryOut[m] | Actually, `data/nemovars.conf` doesn't exist | 16:27 |
| SergeyChupligin4 | <PureTryOut[m] "Actually, `data/nemovars.conf` d"> I make git mv from src to data | 17:00 |
| PureTryOut[m] | I've added it from the master branch for now | 17:00 |
| PureTryOut[m] | Oh, Glacier Home depends on QtFeedback but that hasn't seen a release since 2012, and even that was just a beta release | 19:19 |
| PureTryOut[m] | What exactly is it used for? Could it be replaced by KF5Userfeedback maybe? | 19:20 |
| AndrewBranson[m4 | Maybe vibration? | 19:27 |
| PureTryOut[m] | Oh that makes sense | 19:27 |
| PureTryOut[m] | What package provides "org.nemomobile.ofono" for QML? | 19:27 |
| DylanVanAssche | QtFeedback is vibration support in SFOS/Nemo | 19:27 |
| PureTryOut[m] | I'd think libqofono, but that only provides "MeeGo.QOfono" | 19:27 |
| mal | this is the branch used for qtfeedback in sfos https://git.sailfishos.org/mer-core/qtfeedback/commits/mer-master and here are the plugins used in sfos https://github.com/mer-hybris/qt5-feedback-haptics-droid-vibrator | 19:33 |
| PureTryOut[m] | Oh it's not even an upstream version? | 19:33 |
| PureTryOut[m] | At least the import seems happy with the latest git master from https://github.com/qt/qtfeedback | 19:33 |
| PureTryOut[m] | Oh, ouch. `org.nemomobile.ofono` seems to be provided by Sailfish's fork of `ofono`... No chance of using upstream here I guess either... | 19:36 |
| PureTryOut[m] | Oh never mind, it's libqofonoext. Luckily, pfhew | 19:46 |
| aa13q | Talking about wrappers for the ofono, Alexander notes this details during his investigation in the context of telepathy project: https://github.com/TelepathyIM/telepathy-qt/wiki/Connection-Managers#fragmentation-story-s01e03 | 21:56 |
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