#nemomobile log for Thursday, 2020-03-26

T42<neochapay> Merged07:03
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T42<abranson> there are packages there with 'sailfish' in the title. i think it's a little unfair to only refer to all that as 'mer'.10:59
T42<eekkelund> @neochapay I find the new folder view less aesthetic than the previous. Also I can't move apps out of the folder? Renaming is huge plus but I prefer the old one. That just needs renaming setting11:17
PureTryOut[m]abranson: I missed the memo that Mer got renamed to Sailfish some time ago, and I already got corrected for it. I'm currently making a MR to edit the blog post and I already moved the packages in postmarketOS. Then again, the folder name "mer" there is just a way to distinct the packages from the rest, it doesn't actually matter where it is in11:27
T42<abranson> Thanks. It'd be really great to acknowledge jolla/sailfish for that stuff, and would definitely help the position for making more of sailfish open source.11:33
PureTryOut[m]So just to be sure, SailfishOS is now a "Sailfish" distribution rather than "Mer", and same for Nemo Mobile?11:39
T42<neochapay> @eekkelund [@neochapay I find the new folder view less aes …], Ok....i remake folder view. You right11:39
T42<eekkelund> the previous one is like this : http://play.qwazix.com/grog/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/homescreen-folder.png11:41
T42<eekkelund> other bugs i still have with lockscreen and lockscreen codepad, but i think i could make PR with those issues. maybe you could help @neochapay ? 😊11:42
T42<neochapay> On 5.12?11:43
T42<eekkelund> yeah12:03
T42<neochapay> Oh...fist run it :) make mr!!!!12:05
T42<abranson> @PureTryOut[m] [So just to be sure, SailfishOS is now a "Sailf …], That's really been the case for years - the packaged third-party components and original projects in 'Mer' were really Jolla's open source code. That's why it's been renamed, because the perception was that Sailfish was 'proprietary' and the OSS stuff was Mer.12:13
PureTryOut[m]That was indeed my perception as well, thanks for the clarification.12:13
PureTryOut[m]So now just the SailfishOS specific bits are proprietary? I've always seen it as the UI (e.g. Silica) and most core apps12:14
PureTryOut[m]neochapay: why does the libglacierapp RPM packaging require mlite5? I built it just fine without it12:22
T42<abranson> there's plenty of 'SailfishOS specific bits' that are open, including some new stuff. I guess that would be the homescreen though being conceptually 'Sailfish', which is indeed proprietary with the core apps, though most of them are just UIs on top of OSS middleware (see piggz camera app for example) and their qml is unbundled when i12:23
T42nstalled.12:23
PureTryOut[m]Is there a curated list somewhere of what is open and what is not in a base install of SailfishOS?12:26
PureTryOut[m]neochapay: and this dep, https://github.com/nemomobile-ux/glacier-music/blob/f758a7ce61f8bd9a46fea9e443ed694550af1e50/rpm/glacier-music.spec#L16, is that nemo-qml-plugin-systemsettings or is there a nemo-qml-plugin-settings somewhere?12:38
T42<neochapay> https://github.com/nemomobile-ux/nemo-qml-plugin-settings12:39
PureTryOut[m]Ah thanks12:42
T42<abranson> @PureTryOut[m] [Is there a curated list somewhere of what is o …], There was, but I don't think it's been maintained since the jolla112:48
PureTryOut[m]Darn that is a long time ago12:48
T42<abranson> but basically if it's not on the public git server or the github projects then it's closed12:48
PureTryOut[m]Why is there both a https://git.sailfishos.org and a Github organisation btw? Are there plans to move the Github repos to Gitlab as well?12:49
T42<abranson> i can check things for you though if you can't find them. easy to check the internal obs12:49
T42<abranson> Originally everything was on github, but then was moved to the self-hosted gitlab. The hybris specific stuff tended to stay on github because that was still collaborative.12:50
T42<abranson> some things just never got migrated or got missed. e.g. the qt-mpris project only got moved last year I think. there have been a couple of new projects on github recently though. will have to see what happens there.12:52
PureTryOut[m]Well for example user-managerd is still on Github13:01
PureTryOut[m]Also, nemomobile-ux depends on bits on https://github.com/nemomobile/13:04
PureTryOut[m]What is Qt5Contacts? It doesn't seem to be an actual Qt package, but I can't find it on the git repos13:17
T42<abranson> usermanagerd is very new. prerelease.13:17
T42<abranson> yeah i think the separation between nemo and sailfish is a bit cleaner, though a lot of the sailfish middleware is named 'nemo'13:19
T42<abranson> will check what qt5 contacts is13:19
T42<abranson> but I know that's another model like the camera and mail - OSS middleware and a jolla closed UI on top13:20
T42<abranson> i know chris did a sqlite contacts impl for qt. i think ubports were using it at one point.13:20
T42<neochapay> I fix all qt5contacts13:20
PureTryOut[m]Hmm seems it's part of https://github.com/qt/qtpim?13:22
T42<abranson> which Qt5Contacts did you mean?13:23
PureTryOut[m]Which I don't think is developed anymore13:23
PureTryOut[m]abranson: https://git.sailfishos.org/mer-core/nemo-qml-plugin-contacts/blob/master/rpm/nemo-qml-plugin-contacts-qt5.spec#L1313:23
PureTryOut[m]neochapay: what do you mean you fixed them?13:23
T42<abranson> qtcontacts-sqlite-qt5 is the backend I was talking about. but there's also libcontacts-qt5, nemo-qml-plugin-contacts-qt5 and qt5-qtpim-contacts13:23
T42<neochapay> after finish port qt Qt5.12 i start migrate from qtpim to kf5contacts13:24
PureTryOut[m]Ah now that's music to my ears13:25
T42<abranson> that pkgconfig does point to qt5-qtpim-contacts-devel yes13:25
PureTryOut[m]Well seeing the app I'm packaging this for (glacier-messages) is going to be migrated to kf5contacts anyway, and qt5-qtpim is not being developed anymore, I think I'll just leave this13:26
PureTryOut[m]I'll package glacier-messages when it's ported13:27
T42<abranson> i'm not sure what the UI team intends to replace qtpim with. perhaps the same. i should ask.13:27
PureTryOut[m]Same with glacier-dialer I guess13:28
PureTryOut[m]And glacier-contacts ofc πŸ˜‰13:28
T42<abranson> do you know the official status of QtPIM?13:35
PureTryOut[m]I do not no, but it not being part of the Qt releases would suggest it being dead upstream. Also last commit in 201913:40
T42<neochapay> @eekkelund [yeah], https://github.com/nemomobile-ux/glacier-home/pull/11813:44
T42<abranson> could just be that it's a bit stale. i think as far as sailfish is concerned it might miraculously come back to life once the qt upgrade finally happens :)13:51
T42<neochapay> damn libpng warning: iCCP: known incorrect sRGB profile13:57
T42<saukkom> Just fyi https://git.sailfishos.org/mer-core named to https://git.sailfishos.org/core it has not really been Mer for a long time anymore, as also announced at https://blog.jolla.com/message-in-a-bottle/  :)14:03
T42<eekkelund> (Photo, 1451x2560) https://irc.thaodan.de/.imgstore/rXMCWULYs4.png15:19
T42<eekkelund> Necunos NC_1 with Nemo and glacier-home on Qt5.13 actually15:20
T42<neochapay> @eekkelund can you create article for nemomobile.net suite ?15:20
T42<neochapay> about porting nemo on Necunos ?15:21
locusfgo go @eekkelund !15:40
T42<abranson> nice work!15:50
PureTryOut[m]saukkom: shit now I got to update all the links πŸ˜› thanks though, that's less confusing15:55
PureTryOut[m]eekkelund: Qt 5.13?! Awesome, that means Qt 5.14 is even closer then πŸŽ‰15:55
PureTryOut[m]Is that Qt 5.13 without patches?15:56
T42<neochapay> i think with15:56
PureTryOut[m]That would be a shame... Hopefully that'll be fixed in the future16:20
T42<neochapay> http://nemomobile.net/ oh yeaaaaaaaaaaa18:02
olWhy no redirect to https page?19:19
T42<neochapay> @ol [Why no redirect to https page?], I will try but have error19:55
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T42<aa13q> Sergey, probably it's repo settings -> Enforce HTTPS πŸ€” Looks like working for me and you already have cname file in the repo :)20:52
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