| T4 | <meierrom> r0kk3rz: locked devices clause? Customers aren't allowed to lock bootloader, right? | 00:05 |
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| ol | Info about qt5-qtbase-gui package in Fedora says "License: LGPLv2 with exceptions or GPLv3 with exceptions". | 00:12 |
| r0kk3rz | @meierrom thats the one | 00:15 |
| r0kk3rz | ol: were you there last fosdem? vesku told us about the issues with the qt upgrade then | 00:18 |
| ol | I don't know. Does qt5-qtbase-gui-5.12.1-7.fc30.x86_64 package in Fedora have wrong License tag? | 00:19 |
| r0kk3rz | no idea, it might | 00:21 |
| r0kk3rz | https://code.qt.io/cgit/qt/qtbase.git/tree/ | 00:22 |
| T4 | <meierrom> r0kk3rz: Wouldn't it be best to lock the bl to keep data more secure and open it if the user needs it? This would respect the license, right? | 00:22 |
| r0kk3rz | @meierrom thats not what this is about, its about not providing end users the ability to change the software on their device | 00:23 |
| r0kk3rz | like for eg. a blackberry | 00:23 |
| r0kk3rz | given jolla is going after government and private sector contracts, they want that ability | 00:24 |
| ol | r0kk3rz (IRC): No, I've took a look at "src/corelib/tools/qrect.h" file of qt5-qtbase source. The license blurb says: | 00:24 |
| r0kk3rz | sounds weird | 00:24 |
| ol | OK, I won't paste a long blurb here, I'll try to say in my words. | 00:24 |
| r0kk3rz | but whatever i guess :) | 00:24 |
| r0kk3rz | im just relaying information from vesku | 00:25 |
| ol | It sau=ys that it's distributed under eiither commercial license or LGPLv3 or GPLv2+. | 00:26 |
| ol | May be there are other components that are distributed under other terms. | 00:27 |
| r0kk3rz | all i know is that jolla is discussing with qt company about the best way to proceed | 00:27 |
| r0kk3rz | hopefully they know their own license | 00:28 |
| T4 | <meierrom> r0kk3rz: what surprises me is that qt has the legal right to just change the license as they please. I find this problematic, isn't it? | 00:35 |
| r0kk3rz | why not, they're the copyright holders arent they? | 00:36 |
| T4 | <meierrom> r0kk3rz: just an example: A company like Jolla uses qt and one day qt becomes proprietary. The license cost however is not affordable. This sounds rather scary to me. | 00:46 |
| r0kk3rz | the distributed gpl3 code will remain, its just newer versions that would be affected by the change | 00:51 |
| T4 | <meierrom> r0kk3rz: ...and get stuck with an old version? :) | 00:54 |
| r0kk3rz | yes | 00:54 |
| r0kk3rz | this is the current scenario | 00:55 |
| T4 | <meierrom> r0kk3rz: I'm getting it. I just wasn't aware of this. Thanks :) | 00:56 |
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| T4 | <neochapay> ok....i create build of nemo for nexus 5 and it started! | 08:19 |
| T4 | <neochapay> ...only systemd.... | 08:19 |
| T4 | <neochapay> https://pastebin.com/L0EKERPF | 08:21 |
| T4 | <neochapay> WTF !? | 08:21 |
| PureTryOut[m] | meierrom: do note that Qt has an agreement with KDE to keep Qt FOSS at all times. They founded an organization together to make sure of this, so it'll never go proprietary | 09:15 |
| r0kk3rz | never say never ;) | 09:43 |
| T4 | <meierrom> PureTryOut[m]: Thanks :) | 12:34 |
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