| T4 | <DibyaXP> (Sticker, 512x512) http://149.202.119.142:9090/3fraMfp86M.webp | 03:53 |
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| T4 | <m_aurel> Hello, I want to share some conclusions of our Nemo Mobile evaluation. Erik will ask a question regarding Messages later. We are interested in using Nemo Mobile for our product with a pre-installed alternative for Android and iOS. I'm afraid, there is much work to be done and we need the community beyond the employees, we can hire for thi | 15:57 |
| T4 | s purpose: https://www.dropbox.com/s/4gcpl5bm92kur9i/Nemo%20Mobilde%20Status.markdown?dl=0 | 15:57 |
| T4 | <m_aurel> What do you think? Essential features and apps are missing. And we would need some basic Android support. We already send an RFP for Anbox port to poitential vendors. | 15:58 |
| T4 | <m_aurel> Erik will ask some questions regarding the Messages app later. | 15:58 |
| T4 | <DibyaXP> Getting upto date mer core shall be first priority | 15:59 |
| T4 | <m_aurel> Althoug UBports seem to be the more modern and mature platform I tend to choose Nemo Mobile because of a much better system UX. A good job of the community! | 16:00 |
| T4 | <m_aurel> I was told that the Qt release has to be updated. | 16:01 |
| T4 | <DibyaXP> Not only that mer is way more stable and reliable platform. Not a wanna be browser on Linux platform | 16:01 |
| T4 | <m_aurel> You mean, that the most apps of UBports are "fake apps", that are more or less a wrapper for web apps? | 16:02 |
| T4 | <DibyaXP> Yes | 16:02 |
| T4 | <m_aurel> Indeed | 16:02 |
| T4 | <DibyaXP> @m_aurel … Essential questions . Thanks for asking. Silica is closed source that's big problem | 16:08 |
| T4 | <m_aurel> For a sucessfull commercial product, we need an app store. This could be the app store for openrepos.net. But most apps of openrepos are mode for Sailfish with Silica. I assume, they will crash or just no run on a pure Nemo Mobile device. | 16:11 |
| T4 | <DibyaXP> I am thinking of making a maps app for open-street maps / Bing maps /here maps | 16:13 |
| T4 | <m_aurel> Is there a solution to write an emulator for Silica, that wraps the QtQuickControlls-nemo? | 16:13 |
| T4 | <DibyaXP> I don't know if silica API are documented properly then it might be posy | 16:14 |
| T4 | <DibyaXP> *possible | 16:14 |
| T4 | <m_aurel> Does someone work of missing core apps like an app for emails, calendar and browser? | 16:15 |
| T4 | <m_aurel> Type: I mean "work on..." | 16:16 |
| T4 | <DibyaXP> Our QT devlopers left us whome we hired for writting a browser for Nemo | 16:16 |
| T4 | <m_aurel> It is possible to use the Sailfish Browser as a workaround? It is published under MFL | 16:18 |
| T4 | <m_aurel> It' the only Sailfish core app, that is published as FOSS. | 16:19 |
| T4 | <DibyaXP> Silica dependency again I guess | 16:19 |
| T4 | <m_aurel> I'M very motivated to see also some people working on a freshing up the UI. I can see an alternative font in the recent posts. Good job. Sometimes this cosmetic things are essential to make the system attractive. | 16:21 |
| T4 | <m_aurel> The screenshot suggests also a blurred background. Very modern and light. Go ahead. | 16:23 |
| T4 | <DibyaXP> Well customisation made CyanogenMod famous , anyone remember that? | 16:23 |
| T4 | <m_aurel> Yes. And then they decided to go with Microsoft and shot themselves in the knee. | 16:24 |
| T4 | <m_aurel> They included Cortana. A contrqadiction to the promise of a secure alternative to Android. | 16:25 |
| T4 | <DibyaXP> Yes man they killed themselves | 16:25 |
| T4 | <DibyaXP> Lineage is fork of cyanogen but it doesn't have that charm anymore | 16:26 |
| T4 | <m_aurel> Indeed. We are working anyway on an alternative to current paradigm of a system UI and UX, that have iOS and Android in common. It's time to make a change. | 16:27 |
| T4 | <DibyaXP> Yes we need change, UI of android and iOS sucks | 16:28 |
| T4 | <DibyaXP> We need to create back fait in privacy | 16:28 |
| T4 | <m_aurel> And the time is good, because we can't expect, that the big two will change their paragm and intoduce innovation, because their business model depends on the existing paradigm. | 16:28 |
| T4 | saukkom was added by: saukkom | 16:28 |
| T4 | <m_aurel> The earn money with data analytics, cloud services and the app ecosystem. | 16:29 |
| T4 | <m_aurel> But this is out of topic of this forum. | 16:29 |
| T4 | <DibyaXP> I hate apple and google both | 16:29 |
| T4 | <DibyaXP> It is not out of topic, I guess because Nemo was developed to create a pure open-source private os | 16:30 |
| T4 | <m_aurel> The claim "think different" is a long time ago. Let's be part of a game change. | 16:31 |
| T4 | <m_aurel> Together, we can: young companies, foundations, developers and users. Are there plans for a Nemo Mobile foundation? | 16:32 |
| T4 | <DibyaXP> I guess @neochapay may answer you that | 16:33 |
| T4 | <neochapay> @DibyaXP [I guess @neochapay may answer you that], Oh...i just code :) | 16:43 |
| T4 | <DibyaXP> I am Linux noob . I don't code my people does and our QT devloper left us in hell | 16:45 |
| T4 | <DibyaXP> Not in good mood man | 16:45 |
| T4 | <DibyaXP> CEO is sad he is trying to find new guy and I am mad . … Browser will come from our side it is promise | 16:46 |
| T4 | <m_aurel> We send a couple of RFPs this week for Nemo Mobile development. It will be a challenge to get ressources or hire skilled people. | 16:48 |
| T4 | <DibyaXP> I am a windows Developer and that proves my ineligibility for developing Nemo | 16:49 |
| T4 | <m_aurel> Really? Do you think .NET and UWP development is close to Nemo Mobile Development? | 16:51 |
| T4 | <DibyaXP> .net sucks and upw is bullshit. … I use pure win32 api and code much possible in C++ if needed in inline assembly. … UPW will be next bullshit after android runtime /dalvik … I don't use any windows … released after XP because they are bloated piece of shit … Microsoft became shit after bill left them . | 16:53 |
| T4 | <DibyaXP> I am learning QT and QML | 16:54 |
| T4 | <DibyaXP> Hopefully I will be able to master iy | 16:54 |
| T4 | <DibyaXP> *it | 16:54 |
| T4 | <DibyaXP> I wish to contact Linux foundation and Code aurora forum regarding Nemo development | 16:56 |
| T4 | <m_aurel> Yes, Code Aurora is essential for hardware adaption, right? | 17:14 |
| T4 | <m_aurel> We'll be online soon with an invitation to a community event. I'll post the link here. We could meet, discuss and code. We think about a price for the best contribution. | 17:15 |
| T4 | <Chipiguay> Hi Marc, did your company go public? | 17:15 |
| T4 | <Chipiguay> I mean, did you disclosed who are you working for? | 17:16 |
| T4 | <DibyaXP> Code aurora can make us run Nemo on any Snapdragon processor | 17:16 |
| T4 | <m_aurel> Not yet, but soon. We just finalised the branding and such stuff. | 17:16 |
| T4 | <Chipiguay> 👍🏼 I'm just curious and hype is increasing | 17:17 |
| T4 | <m_aurel> Exiting time. We are currently in interviews with a focus group for our X concept. | 17:17 |
| T4 | <m_aurel> I mean UX concept | 17:17 |
| T4 | <Chipiguay> are you Europe based? | 17:18 |
| T4 | <m_aurel> Yes. | 17:18 |
| T4 | <m_aurel> Unfortunately young people request Android support. So we need to think about Anbox. | 17:18 |
| T4 | <DibyaXP> Awesome you guys are European | 17:18 |
| T4 | <m_aurel> Because of the policial development, there is a growing target group for an alternative. You may know, that there are demonstrations at this weekend because of the suggested new coppyright law. | 17:19 |
| T4 | <m_aurel> People become aware, that we need something else than an Android bug or an iOS cage. | 17:21 |
| T4 | <DibyaXP> They need to be more aware atleast they need to stop buying huwei and xiomi products | 17:21 |
| T4 | <m_aurel> Big discussion on that | 17:22 |
| T4 | <DibyaXP> Most of my friends in Berlin uses tons of huwei phones | 17:24 |
| tbr | I mean does it really matter who spies on you *if* someone spies on you? | 17:44 |
| tbr | I'd be more concerned with having better privacy control of my devices, than deciding who gets to spy on me instead of someone else | 17:45 |
| T4 | <Chipiguay> tbr: TBH my question was made wondering if I would have any chance to be part of this | 18:07 |
| r0kk3rz[m] | Btw advanced-camera could work well as the standard Nemo camera app, there's not too much silica there to fix | 22:44 |
| T4 | <samzn> +1 | 22:51 |
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