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| hackersgame | Is there interest in run Nemo on the Librem 5? | 14:11 |
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| T4 | <avbdr> Hey guys. What is the smallest phone where Nemo is properly working? | 14:30 |
| T4 | <avbdr> I gave up on Nokia n9 :) | 14:30 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> look at Sailfish OS phones | 14:33 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> you should be able to run Nemo at the phones, where you can run SFOS | 14:34 |
| T4 | <avbdr> Hoped to hear a recommendation from the experienced guys :) | 14:35 |
| T4 | <locusf> make your own | 14:38 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> just pick a device, which have good sfos port | 14:38 |
| T4 | <locusf> you can use rpi2 | 14:38 |
| T4 | <locusf> or rpi3 | 14:39 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> and install Nemo on it | 14:39 |
| T4 | <neochapay> @hackersgame [Is there interest in run Nemo on the Librem 5?], Yeap | 14:42 |
| T4 | <avbdr> thank you guys | 14:42 |
| T4 | <inkyfromthetape> @locusf [you can use rpi2], wow, i have rpi2. where is the port? and, i also need a development environment for ARM. i took images from sfos sdk, two images, but the binaries in those are intel. and no compilers inside. | 14:44 |
| T4 | <inkyfromthetape> no -devel.rpm packages. | 14:45 |
| T4 | <inkyfromthetape> so i dont get it. i need an arm image. | 14:45 |
| T4 | <locusf> its been a while since I did the port though | 14:45 |
| T4 | <inkyfromthetape> hmmm. so no latest qt? if i compile something on it, will it run on modern system? | 14:46 |
| T4 | <locusf> you don't have arm image per se in sfos sdk | 14:46 |
| T4 | <inkyfromthetape> how do i get it? | 14:46 |
| T4 | <locusf> you use scratchbox2 for compiling stuff | 14:46 |
| T4 | <inkyfromthetape> yes, but scratchbox mounts images, and uses binfmt for chroot. | 14:47 |
| T4 | <inkyfromthetape> right? | 14:47 |
| T4 | <locusf> yeah | 14:47 |
| T4 | <inkyfromthetape> so it should have an arm image. to chroot and compile. | 14:47 |
| T4 | <locusf> its a target in this case | 14:47 |
| T4 | <locusf> a simple rootfs tarball | 14:47 |
| T4 | <inkyfromthetape> aaa | 14:47 |
| T4 | <inkyfromthetape> i need that rootfs tarball. | 14:47 |
| T4 | <inkyfromthetape> how do i get it? | 14:47 |
| T4 | <locusf> sb2 is used to hack with it | 14:47 |
| T4 | <inkyfromthetape> i can hack with it without sb2. | 14:47 |
| T4 | <locusf> its inside the sdk already | 14:47 |
| T4 | <inkyfromthetape> what is the name, do you know? | 14:48 |
| T4 | <inkyfromthetape> because i was searching for .vdi images. | 14:48 |
| T4 | <inkyfromthetape> and that wasn't what i need. | 14:48 |
| T4 | <locusf> https://sailfishos.org/wiki/Platform_SDK | 14:48 |
| T4 | <locusf> its usually named SailfishOS-<version>-armv7hl | 14:48 |
| T4 | <locusf> mb2 I meant | 14:49 |
| T4 | <inkyfromthetape> thank you. i have asked a friend to install platform sdk, because on my gentoo system there is no mesa, compiled with wayland support, and installer for some reason linked to that library. i don't want to recompile my mesa, so i asked a friend who has debian to get .vdi files for me. i'll ask him to find SailfishOS-<version>-armv7 | 14:50 |
| T4 | -hl files. | 14:50 |
| T4 | <locusf> also https://sailpi.wordpress.com | 14:52 |
| T4 | <locusf> that should help you get started | 14:52 |
| T4 | <inkyfromthetape> aaa thank you! | 14:52 |
| T4 | <inkyfromthetape> can i, do you think, install qt-devel packages on it? | 14:52 |
| T4 | <inkyfromthetape> because, i tried on device | 14:52 |
| T4 | <inkyfromthetape> and pkcon said | 14:52 |
| T4 | <inkyfromthetape> it'll break your device | 14:52 |
| T4 | <inkyfromthetape> and refused to install -devel packages. | 14:52 |
| T4 | <locusf> makes sense because the real devices are all libhybris based | 14:53 |
| T4 | <locusf> and to get the devel packages you'd need to give out the EGL/GL source code for the android drivers in order to use the headers there | 14:53 |
| T4 | <locusf> mesa headers work fine though since they are binary compatible anyway | 14:54 |
| T4 | <locusf> if you link with the libhybris versions | 14:54 |
| T4 | <inkyfromthetape> please, when you have time, upgrade the image to sfos3 | 14:57 |
| T4 | <inkyfromthetape> or btw | 14:58 |
| T4 | <inkyfromthetape> if i use nemo image, the program will run under sfos right? | 14:58 |
| T4 | <locusf> umm nope | 14:58 |
| T4 | <locusf> its all nemo, no sailfish in that image | 14:59 |
| T4 | <locusf> its complicated :) | 14:59 |
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| T4 | <locusf> @inkyfromthetape [please, when you have time, upgrade the image …], I can try at some point, not very soon at least | 15:00 |
| T4 | <inkyfromthetape> yeah. | 15:05 |
| T4 | <inkyfromthetape> @locusf [its all nemo, no sailfish in that image], but it's the same qt right? i mean if i write without using silica, it should run? | 15:05 |
| T4 | <meierrom> @locusf [also https://sailpi.wordpress.com], Very cool! :) | 15:07 |
| mal | @locusf there is the new x86 tablet port which doesn't use libhybris | 15:19 |
| T4 | <locusf> oh ok | 15:32 |
| T4 | <locusf> @inkyfromthetape [but it's the same qt right? i mean if i write …], it can be different, I think @neochapay did some newer qt repo in obs | 15:33 |
| r0kk3rz | @inkyfromthetape the platform sdk doesnt have an installer, its just a tarball download and a chroot, should work fine | 15:55 |
| T4 | <inkyfromthetape> no no, what i found is .run file. | 15:55 |
| r0kk3rz | yes thats the app sdk, with qtcreator | 15:56 |
| T4 | <inkyfromthetape> can you give me a link? i sincerely cannot find something else. | 15:56 |
| r0kk3rz | you dont need that | 15:56 |
| T4 | <inkyfromthetape> hmmm. | 15:56 |
| T4 | <inkyfromthetape> yes, i don't. | 15:56 |
| r0kk3rz | link is above here | 15:56 |
| T4 | <inkyfromthetape> minute will search again. | 15:56 |
| T4 | <inkyfromthetape> ah. | 15:56 |
| r0kk3rz | so that sets up a chroot with sb2 inside, theres instructions there to create targets for arm | 15:57 |
| T4 | <inkyfromthetape> okay i see. | 15:58 |
| T4 | <inkyfromthetape> thank you. | 15:58 |
| T4 | <inkyfromthetape> eventually. | 15:58 |
| T4 | <minlexx> @inkyfromthetape [can you give me a link? i sincerely cannot fin …], http://releases.sailfishos.org/sdk/targets/ this? | 16:17 |
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