#nemomobile log for Thursday, 2019-01-10

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T4avbdr was added by: avbdr16:02
T4<avbdr> good day guys16:03
T4<locusf> (Document) http://149.202.119.142:9090/TMP0fy1OIP.mp416:04
T4<avbdr> as I understand NemoMobile is a continuation of a meego development?16:04
T4<avbdr> wonder if it will wor on nokia n9?16:05
T4<avbdr> [Edit] wonder if it will work on nokia n9?16:05
r0kk3rzg'day16:07
T4<samzn> @avbdr [wonder if it will work on nokia n9?], It does16:18
T4<samzn> Recent builds might need some little extra work16:18
T4<avbdr> is there any docs on that?16:19
T4<avbdr> i have found http://releases.nemomobile.org/snapshots/images/ but releases there are from 2013 :)16:20
T4<avbdr> and google shows only results back to this dates16:20
T4<akaWolf> I think we have no recent images at the moment16:37
T4<akaWolf> ongoing work is happening on top of the Sailfish OS images16:38
T4<avbdr> what is the actual repo can I use?16:39
T4<akaWolf> I'm not sure about N916:39
T4<avbdr> :) nice16:40
T4<avbdr> ok16:40
T4<akaWolf> maybe some one else would be able to answer16:40
T4<avbdr> seems need build kinda linux from scratch :)16:42
T4<akaWolf> I saw some targets at obs16:42
T4<akaWolf> but since I have no that device I didn't dig into it16:42
T4<avbdr> understood, np16:43
T4<avbdr> thanks for your help16:43
r0kk3rz@avbdr is there a recentish sailfish image for n9?17:00
T4<avbdr> thats what im trying to figure out :)17:01
malr0kk3rz: maybe I should test if such an image could be made, I managed to get myself an n9 a while back17:02
r0kk3rz@avbdr: do you know what version of kernel can be used on n9 these days?17:03
T4<avbdr> the only one I have found is https://github.com/nemomobile/kernel-adaptation-n950-n917:06
T4<avbdr> seems the most full and recent information is https://wiki.debian.org/Mobile/Nokia_N917:07
r0kk3rzold but not too old17:07
T4<avbdr> im googling between old and very old results :)17:08
T4<avbdr> this one one of the best so far17:08
T4<avbdr> lol17:08
T4<avbdr> 3.5.3 is better then 2.8 as well17:08
T4<avbdr> if you will manage to find something, I will be happy to participate with testing and documentation17:09
T4<sicelo> N9 can run mainline kernels iirc17:10
T4<sicelo> https://elinux.org/N9 and https://elinux.org/N95017:11
r0kk3rzwe still have updated ports with 3.4 kernel, so it should be ok17:11
T4<eekkelund> postmarketOS folks have been also working with N9. https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Nokia_N917:13
T4<avbdr> @sicelo no GPU and DSP drivers, looks very promising 😃17:13
r0kk3rzseems doable without a huge amount of effort anyway17:14
T4<avbdr> i really dont care about 3D, all i need is a phone, address book, a browser and email :)17:15
r0kk3rzgpu drivers help a lot for browsers17:16
T4<avbdr> well, a browser is for internet banking :)17:16
T4<avbdr> i can wait lol17:16
T4<avbdr> as long as it do the job :)17:16
T4<NotKit> OpenGL is actually used to render UI with QML, so without GPU it is going to be painfully slow17:25
T4<avbdr> wonder if 3.4 have GPU supported :)17:28
T4<avbdr> http://wiki.maemo.org/Ubiboot17:29
T4<avbdr> seems thats a start17:29
T4<avbdr> funny, im a linux guy for more then last 10 years and I have no idea where to start :)17:37
T4<avbdr> those manuals are written to confuse an enemy17:37
T4<akaWolf> does that even possible to run qml without acceleration?17:38
T4<neochapay> @akaWolf [does that even possible to run qml without acc …], Yes17:38
T4<avbdr> i think there is a fallback17:39
T4<neochapay> In my repo I have 2d render engine17:39
T4<neochapay> And I use it with i2c display17:39
T4<akaWolf> do you wrote own qpa plugin?17:41
T4<neochapay> No it's part of qt17:46
T4<faenil> I remember one of the problems getting n950 to work with wayland was the wayland wsgl driver did not support vsync and there did not seem to be enough documentation to add that support18:03
T4<faenil> it was quite slow and with visible tearing18:03
T4<avbdr> and wayland is the only gui avalable?18:55
T4<faenil> yes, x11 support was dropped in Mer18:55
T4<faenil> (afair)18:55
T4<avbdr> omg :)18:55
T4<avbdr> so seems no good news for me18:55
T4<faenil> well, you can't have everything, Jolla can only mantain one..18:55
T4<faenil> :=18:55
T4<faenil> :)18:55
T4<avbdr> i wonder if it even worse the efforts to start messing with all this stuff :)18:56
T4<avbdr> i dont mind to buy different phone, but there is no other small alterntavies  :(18:56
T4<faenil> it depends, if you have fund doing that kind of activity (like I used to do) then yes18:56
T4<faenil> if you want a daily driver for your phone, then don't18:56
T4<avbdr> my idea is to have a 'phone for relax hours'18:56
T4<avbdr> sometimes i need to get away from the daily duties and have only emergency ways to contact me :)18:57
T4<faenil> it depends if hacking to make things work gives you that relax18:57
T4<avbdr> and i need a small phone18:57
T4<avbdr> :)18:57
T4<avbdr> under 'relax hours' i mean time without major communication sources :)18:57
T4<faenil> I see18:58
T4<avbdr> but since ive already bought the phone, seems the only usecase is a hacking toy yes :)18:58
T4<faenil> :)18:58
T4<avbdr> start porting fuchusia for example lol18:58
T4<faenil> :)18:59
r0kk3rz[m]What was wrong with the software already on it?18:59
T4<avbdr> meego is not that bad for my needs, but browser doesnt work due to new tls everywhere and no address book sync :-/18:59
T4<avbdr> 2  internet bankings do not load :)18:59
T4<avbdr> 1 loads, but dont work lol18:59
T4<avbdr> and life without address book is complicated19:00
T4<avbdr> apart of that, phone is like a miracle after samsung s919:00
T4<avbdr> i were looking how to implement google oauth2 and it seems pretty trivial thing to do, but I cant find an API to build a module for meego accounts app19:02
T4<avbdr> i might end up contracting somebody to configure or patch my syncevolution  and see if there are some webkit ports to meego19:03
T4<avbdr> that sounds more valueble invetment then fuchsia porting :)19:04
T4<avbdr> [Edit] that sounds more valueble investment then fuchsia porting :)19:04
T4<avbdr> big brother have have disabled all syncml and carddav apis :-/19:25
r0kk3rzthere might be some stuff you can port from mer maybe19:56
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