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| T4 | <K31j0> I want to get poormaps or whatever it's called now and music and smash it into a head unit | 11:00 |
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| T4 | <K31j0> would probably need sailfish in tablet mode or nemo mobile for it | 11:00 |
| T4 | <samzn> Nemo converges nicely to landscape now | 11:04 |
| T4 | <K31j0> Any photo or anything? | 11:07 |
| T4 | <samzn> (Photo, 1280x720) http://149.202.119.142:9090/ouXcummd50.png | 11:08 |
| r0kk3rz | looks nice | 11:11 |
| T4 | <gischpelino> wow, port nemo to geminipda! ;-) | 11:13 |
| r0kk3rz | install glacier-home and done | 11:14 |
| T4 | <gischpelino> ok, will give it a try at weekend. | 11:15 |
| T4 | <NotKit> @samzn [<reply to media>], is this mockup though? | 11:21 |
| T4 | <eekkelund> @r0kk3rz [install glacier-home and done], Glacier != Nemo ;) | 11:21 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> @eekkelund [Glacier != Nemo ;)], what is Nemo then? | 11:22 |
| T4 | <NotKit> I suppose real one is missing the icon shadows and that nice wallpaper | 11:22 |
| r0kk3rz | @eekkelund: pfft, glacier ui pretty much is nemo, and a few apps | 11:24 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> @r0kk3rz [@eekkelund: pfft, glacier ui pretty much is ne …], which apps? | 11:24 |
| r0kk3rz | the nemo ones | 11:24 |
| r0kk3rz | obviously | 11:24 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> wow | 11:24 |
| T4 | <eekkelund> @r0kk3rz [@eekkelund: pfft, glacier ui pretty much is ne …], Is SFOS then Silica+jolla-homescreen and more apps? :D | 11:25 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Qt5PortingCoreApps | 11:25 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> this one? | 11:25 |
| r0kk3rz | https://github.com/nemomobile-ux | 11:25 |
| r0kk3rz | stuff in there | 11:25 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> @akaWolf [https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Qt5Porti …], what is here then? | 11:26 |
| r0kk3rz | ancient stuff from the long long ago | 11:27 |
| r0kk3rz | from the time before time | 11:27 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> )) | 11:27 |
| r0kk3rz | when only beasts roamed the earth | 11:27 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> well.. I think we should update wiki page | 11:27 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> becouse there are no info about current status | 11:27 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> [Edit] because there are no info about current status | 11:27 |
| r0kk3rz | current status is NeoChapay is one man army, fighting for nemo | 11:29 |
| r0kk3rz | he's been updating a tmo thread about it regularly | 11:29 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> what is tmo thread? | 11:30 |
| r0kk3rz | talk.maemo.org | 11:30 |
| T4 | <samzn> @NotKit [is this mockup though?], nope, it's all there | 11:31 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> that's not enough definitely. first time when I read about Nemo, I came to that page and after briefly reading close that with sure that project are death | 11:31 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> is* | 11:32 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> I can write some info, but I dont know anything, so you, guys, should do that | 11:33 |
| T4 | <eekkelund> @akaWolf [I can write some info, but I dont know anythin …], All help is welcome! Writing wiki is highly appreciated!:) | 11:33 |
| r0kk3rz | indeed SomeoneTM should do that | 11:33 |
| T4 | <gischpelino> soonTM | 11:34 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> Contact your administrator or the maintainer (David Greaves ) for information about creating an account. | 11:35 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> m? | 11:35 |
| akaWolf | okay, will write at #mer =) | 11:37 |
| T4 | <meierrom> @r0kk3rz [install glacier-home and done], I don't think this will work. This is not vanilla glacier. | 14:07 |
| r0kk3rz | ? | 14:17 |
| T4 | <meierrom> @akaWolf [what is Nemo then?], https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo | 14:22 |
| T4 | <meierrom> @r0kk3rz [@eekkelund: pfft, glacier ui pretty much is ne …], With respect, your statements are wrong and confusing! | 14:28 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> can you explain a little more? | 14:29 |
| T4 | <samzn> @eekkelund [Is SFOS then Silica+jolla-homescreen and more …], Plasma Mobile isn't Ubuntu touch with kde :)) | 14:30 |
| T4 | <meierrom> @akaWolf [can you explain a little more?], If you want to know more about nemo then please check out the link above. | 14:33 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> I found that info a bit outdated | 14:35 |
| T4 | <meierrom> @r0kk3rz [?], Vanilla glacier and glacier Harmattan are not the same ui. | 14:36 |
| T4 | <eekkelund> @meierrom [Vanilla glacier and glacier Harmattan are not …], Glacier harmattan? | 14:36 |
| r0kk3rz | i never said they were | 14:37 |
| r0kk3rz | you mean manhattan | 14:37 |
| T4 | <eekkelund> @samzn [Plasma Mobile isn't Ubuntu touch with kde :))], 😃 nope it isn't | 14:37 |
| T4 | <eekkelund> @r0kk3rz [you mean manhattan], Ah true | 14:37 |
| T4 | <meierrom> @r0kk3rz [you mean manhattan], Sorry, yes... 😁 | 14:38 |
| T4 | <samzn> @meierrom [Vanilla glacier and glacier Harmattan are not …], For now | 14:38 |
| T4 | <samzn> 9 days until we release our game... then things should be so much easier | 14:38 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> @meierrom [Vanilla glacier and glacier Harmattan are not …], where is sources of both? | 14:41 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> https://github.com/nemomobile-ux/glacier-home — ? | 14:42 |
| T4 | <samzn> Yes | 14:42 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> is that Manhattan or vanilla? | 14:43 |
| T4 | <neochapay> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZWDbK6G9SY | 14:43 |
| T4 | <samzn> Both, Manhattan is in a different branch but our local superhero neochapay has been working on it | 14:43 |
| T4 | <samzn> @neochapay [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZWDbK6G9SY], Speak of the devil :) | 14:43 |
| T4 | <samzn> [Edit] Both, Manhattan is in a different branch but our local superhero neochapay has been working on upstreaming it | 14:44 |
| T4 | <eekkelund> @neochapay [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZWDbK6G9SY], WOAH! Thats cool!!! 0.o | 14:44 |
| mal | nice | 14:44 |
| T4 | <samzn> I have some qml components for windowing I've made for this game project if you want to use them :) | 14:45 |
| T4 | <samzn> This really is so cool | 14:45 |
| T4 | <samzn> How are you planning to trigger it? | 14:45 |
| T4 | <neochapay> gesture | 14:46 |
| T4 | <neochapay> https://git.merproject.org/mer-core/lipstick/merge_requests/90 | 14:46 |
| T4 | <samzn> I think doing the inverse of the multitask idea could work | 14:46 |
| T4 | <samzn> Drag halfway to the bottom and wait, then it snaps out | 14:46 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> @samzn [Both, Manhattan is in a different branch but o …], what is needed for? | 14:46 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> what was the goal of manhattan branch and master/devel? | 14:47 |
| T4 | <K31j0> Would I be able to run poormaps/its forks on it? | 14:47 |
| T4 | <eekkelund> @akaWolf [what was the goal of manhattan branch and mast …], ATM manhattan is in devel and in the future devel should be merged to master. | 14:48 |
| T4 | <eekkelund> @K31j0 [Would I be able to run poormaps/its forks on i …], With silica components, yes | 14:48 |
| T4 | <samzn> (Photo, 1280x853) http://149.202.119.142:9090/AfoKZOZfPu.png | 14:49 |
| T4 | <samzn> @K31j0 [Would I be able to run poormaps/its forks on i …], Planning to streamline pure maps with new nemo components | 14:49 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> @samzn [<reply to media>], looks like you have graphics pad | 14:50 |
| T4 | <samzn> Surface Pro 3 🙂 | 14:50 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> cool! | 14:50 |
| T4 | <K31j0> how do silica apps look on nemo btw? would anybody to demo? :P | 14:50 |
| T4 | <K31j0> [Edit] how do silica apps look on nemo btw? would anybody care to demo? :P | 14:51 |
| T4 | <samzn> same thing but with a black background | 14:51 |
| T4 | <meierrom> @eekkelund [With silica components, yes], Silica can work but it's not OSS! | 14:51 |
| T4 | <samzn> with nemo frosted glass it should look almost the same, if not better | 14:51 |
| T4 | <samzn> [Edit] with nemo frosted glass it should look almost the same once it's implemented, if not better | 14:51 |
| T4 | <samzn> I'm gonna lunch | 14:51 |
| T4 | <K31j0> glass on glass design is the best, change my mind | 14:53 |
| T4 | <K31j0> solid backgrounds are boring :P | 14:54 |
| T4 | <meierrom> @K31j0 [how do silica apps look on nemo btw? would any …], Awful I guess. But a little mapping should improve things. 😁 | 14:54 |
| rinigus | samzn: I am looking into how to change page stack handling in pure maps. will see, if it works. but maybe we could later merge nemo and sfos versions in the same tree | 14:55 |
| r0kk3rz | silica apps are just B&W | 14:57 |
| T4 | <meierrom> @r0kk3rz [silica apps are just B&W], Sometimes they break according to @samzn. 😕 | 15:03 |
| T4 | <K31j0> Silica does magic? | 15:04 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> hmm is there any way to implement glue level between silica and nemo frosted glass? | 15:04 |
| r0kk3rz | you'd need more than glue | 15:05 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> what else? | 15:05 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> I mean it would be nice if there will be support for SFOS apps at Nemo... | 15:06 |
| r0kk3rz | well silica has a few interesting ui concepts, and you would need an equivalent in glacier components | 15:06 |
| T4 | <meierrom> @akaWolf [hmm is there any way to implement glue level b …], That's the plan, but it's messier. 😕 | 15:06 |
| r0kk3rz | i tried to encourage sfos developers to use glacier components for that reason | 15:06 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> yeah that's one way too | 15:07 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> but in ideal there are should be silica support and also give more feautures | 15:08 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> for developers | 15:08 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah thats more difficult, with silica being closed source | 15:08 |
| r0kk3rz | we'd basically have to reimplement the special silica components, which im not sure jolla would be very happy with | 15:09 |
| T4 | <samzn> you can run most sailfish apps just fine on nemo if you installed glacier | 15:09 |
| T4 | <samzn> if we could reimplement silica components, I think everyone would be happy, but that's a big task, specially for emulating the intended behaviour that an app would want | 15:09 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> yeah I mean in the best case that should be done | 15:10 |
| r0kk3rz | tbh i would more aim for kirigami compatibility | 15:10 |
| r0kk3rz | since thats QQC2 based, and open source | 15:10 |
| T4 | <samzn> So is nemo quick components 🙂 | 15:10 |
| T4 | <samzn> I really don't think Kirigami or Plasma has good UX at all | 15:11 |
| r0kk3rz | thats fine, its about portability | 15:11 |
| T4 | <OhYash> Kirigami won't look even with glacier/silica imo. | 15:13 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> @samzn [if we could reimplement silica components, I t …], I think we need roadmap | 15:15 |
| T4 | <samzn> We could plan it after the 27th | 15:15 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> what will be 27th? | 15:16 |
| T4 | <samzn> Release of a work that's been taking all my time :) | 15:17 |
| T4 | <samzn> It'd be more comfortable for me | 15:17 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> Okay | 15:18 |
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