#nemomobile log for Wednesday, 2018-09-12

T4<meierrom> Eg. can all be packed into one meta package? Can it run on all sfos devices and sfos versions? Can it easily be uninstalled?01:58
T4<samzn> Yes, yes, yes02:14
T4<meierrom> @samzn [Yes, yes, yes], Sounds great! 👍03:18
T4<meierrom> What about existing sfos apps? Are they compatible?03:39
T4<meierrom> Is it correct that your solution doesn't require lipstick/silica?04:00
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T4<samzn> Yeah if you have lipstick all sfos apps just work already14:09
T4<samzn> There was a bug with it that it'd have translucent backgrounds but that has been fixed since forever14:09
T4<neochapay> @samzn [Yeah if you have lipstick all sfos apps just w …], but looks ugly14:14
T4<samzn> Should work nicer if we use a component I want to propose on the background14:17
T4<samzn> Frosted Glass, should look even better than sailfish glass14:17
T4<samzn> [Edit] Should work nicer if we use a component I want to propose on the background (of silica apps)14:17
T4<samzn> (Photo, 422x446) http://149.202.119.142:9090/p0xG6F8QZJ.png14:23
T4<samzn> I'd want to add some more skeuomorphism to it to make it feel more like glass14:23
T4<samzn> [Edit] I'd want to add some more skeuomorphism to it to make it feel more like glass on the design proposal14:24
T4<samzn> (Photo, 594x292) http://149.202.119.142:9090/TAQmwm8vvd.png14:24
T4<Chipiguay> Very cool!14:42
T4<akaWolf> yeah, looks nice :)14:44
T4<OhYash> Frankly saying I like the Fluent design (Microsoft). With all its light effects and glass of course. And depth. … I'd love to see sailfish adopt that.15:31
T4<OhYash> @samzn [<reply to media>], This actually looks like the Fluent's glass and I like it.15:32
T4<meierrom> @samzn [Yeah if you have lipstick all sfos apps just w …], Doesn't missing silica break sfos native apps?16:20
T4<samzn> yes, but you can have silica in nemo16:21
T4<samzn> Just as you can run ubuntu touch apps if you add ubuntu touch components to KDE Plasma16:21
T4<meierrom> @samzn [yes, but you can have silica in nemo], Unlike lipstick, silica is not OSS! Is there a simple way to avoid it?16:25
T4<samzn> Yep16:25
T4<meierrom> @samzn [Yep], That's great news but how can you prevent app breakage since most apps depend on silica?16:28
T4<samzn> If we could map silica components to nemo or generic qtquick components it should be possible16:29
T4<samzn> A lot of apps would break anyway due to how the Sailfish UX expects to be16:29
T4<meierrom> @samzn [A lot of apps would break anyway due to how th …], I'm not sure I'm getting you. Do you have an example?16:35
T4<samzn> We could make a FOSS Silica replacement that uses Nemo components, but Silica components have some behaviours that can't be easily mapped, or that the program that uses it doesn't expect16:42
T4<meierrom> @samzn [We could make a FOSS Silica replacement that u …], As usual, the devil's in the details as we say in German. 😁16:50
T4<meierrom> Anyway, this sounds very promising and I look forward to test the real thing! 👍16:52
siceloare nokia n9xx still targets for Nemo?17:45
T4<samzn> Not atm, but with the things that PostmarketOS brought it seems like a great candidate again17:47
siceloi imagine so. otherwise, which devices were targetted mostly?17:49
T4<samzn> Any that currently target Sailfish17:49
sicelothanks. i understand :)17:49
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