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| T4 | <neochapay> @m2koo ping | 07:25 |
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| T4 | <eekkelund> If he doesn't answer, i can fix those couple issues for him^ | 07:27 |
| T4 | <neochapay> Just fix...second day without answer not good | 07:27 |
| T4 | <m2koo> I currently have no time at all | 07:27 |
| T4 | <neochapay> (Photo, 624x340) https://teleirc.mikaela.info/AVfHhX1h9s.png | 07:28 |
| T4 | <neochapay> @eekkelund ^ | 07:28 |
| T4 | <eekkelund> Im busy today but I will try to do this on lunch break:) | 07:35 |
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| marmistrz | NeoChapay, would it be possible to run e.g. glacier-email on desktop Linux? | 08:24 |
| marmistrz | It could be an idea for a sustainable development model to engage desktop devs - there's more of them than Nemo devs. | 08:24 |
| marmistrz | [architecture-wise, I know that we now directly import QtQuick.Controls.Nemo] | 08:25 |
| r0kk3rz | marmistrz: my plan is to make sure nemo apps can run on sfos | 08:33 |
| r0kk3rz | the sfos email client isnt great | 08:33 |
| r0kk3rz | and plasma devs too | 08:34 |
| marmistrz | r0kk3rz, I mean desktop, e.g. on Arch | 08:34 |
| r0kk3rz | i know | 08:34 |
| r0kk3rz | but theres already lots of desktop mail clients | 08:35 |
| marmistrz | r0kk3rz, actually, if you want good GPG support, then you're stuck with Thunderbird | 08:38 |
| marmistrz | (i.e. Enigmail) | 08:38 |
| r0kk3rz | theres someone working on gpg support for sfos | 08:39 |
| r0kk3rz | dcaliste | 08:39 |
| NeoChapay | marmistrz: i test all application in desktop mode first | 08:39 |
| NeoChapay | ^) | 08:39 |
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| marmistrz | NeoChapay: :) what about the mer middleware the client depends on AFAIK? isn't it a hassle to set up on desktop? | 08:40 |
| T4 | <faenil> We have so many opensource and quite good applications from ubuntu touch...has anyone looked into adapting those? | 08:40 |
| NeoChapay | marmistrz: i build it to | 08:41 |
| r0kk3rz | faenil: indeed, what are the chances of porting the ubuntu components? | 08:41 |
| T4 | <faenil> Disclaimer: I used to work on Ubuntu Touch, so I might have a bias :) | 08:41 |
| marmistrz | r0kk3rz, NeoChapay, what do you think about poking Jolla at the next community meeting about QQC2? There are multiple reasons why they should do it - less maintenance burden on their side, portability => it's easier to port apps to Sailfish (some Android apps use QQC) | 08:42 |
| T4 | <faenil> r0kk3rz: I was more thinking even just reusing the c++ logic/libs below them and redo the UI. Not sure it makes sense to port the components because they're not qqc2 based | 08:43 |
| marmistrz | and if SFOS moves to QQC2, Nemo gets all SFOS apps ;) | 08:43 |
| marmistrz | [and r0kk3rz, I appreciate that you want Nemo apps to run on SFOS but I have the impression that in the long run it's more important to have SFOS apps on Nemo] | 08:44 |
| marmistrz | I can raise it at the next meeting | 08:45 |
| NeoChapay | now my first task gcc6 and reborn mer:core repo | 08:45 |
| r0kk3rz | marmistrz: but that requires jolla releasing the silica components, which we have no control over | 08:46 |
| r0kk3rz | and they *wont* do, despite claiming otherwise | 08:46 |
| marmistrz | r0kk3rz, nope, it doesn't | 08:46 |
| marmistrz | They would just keep Silica closed-source | 08:46 |
| marmistrz | Do their proprietary styling for QtQuick Controls too maintain the Silica look | 08:47 |
| marmistrz | Our win is that the apps will start using QQC2 instead of proprietary Silica | 08:47 |
| r0kk3rz | faenil: oh so its qqc1 based? even easier :) | 08:47 |
| marmistrz | probably silica will be left for some compatibility period | 08:47 |
| marmistrz | possibly they'll reuse it for qqc2 styling, never releasing it to the public\ | 08:48 |
| r0kk3rz | faenil: i agree its nicer to have 'native' look n feel, but if you port components you dont have to port each app individually | 08:48 |
| r0kk3rz | faenil: does all that stuff still live on canonical servers? | 08:49 |
| T4 | <faenil> r0kk3rz no it's not QQC1 one because they're not efficient. There's a lot of c++ in Ubuntu Components. | 08:50 |
| r0kk3rz | marmistrz: jolla wont even consider that until after the next qt upgrade, which might be in a year if we're lucky | 08:50 |
| marmistrz | r0kk3rz, so, if the community want QQC2 @ SFOS within two years, they should start putting the pressure now xD | 08:51 |
| r0kk3rz | i was going to try and backport the 5.7 branch of qqc2 | 08:52 |
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| T4 | <faenil> r0kk3rz I think the best place now is to look at UBPorts community repos. I would not spend time porting Ubuntu Components to Nemo, although it can be done (but it will be painful especially because of the theming/styling classes iirc) | 08:52 |
| r0kk3rz | for kirigami2 | 08:52 |
| marmistrz | r0kk3rz, until QQC2 is the official framework for SFOS, most apps will use Silica and Nemo will not benefit from it at all | 08:53 |
| marmistrz | I can ask, it doesn't hurt, as you've seen on the IRC I'm good at talking ;D | 08:54 |
| r0kk3rz | marmistrz: yeah thats fine, if developers want to make silica apps they can | 08:57 |
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| marmistrz | added to the meeting schedule | 09:11 |
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| T4 | <oldschoolthemer> Eh, just reverse-engineer Silica and call it a day. ;) Beat 'em to it. | 09:52 |
| T4 | <oldschoolthemer> (I'm cleary being facetious) | 09:54 |
| T4 | <oldschoolthemer> [Edit] (I'm clearly being facetious) | 09:54 |
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