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locusf | http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1531172&postcount=48 | 11:28 |
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T4 | <-itdoesntmatt> Locusf sorry for my ignorance can you please explain shortly what does this mean? Nemo is moving from mer? | 11:33 |
locusf | not really | 11:34 |
locusf | its only moving from mer on qt stuff | 11:34 |
locusf | all middleware is still there | 11:34 |
T4 | <-itdoesntmatt> So it will share the some base of sailfish, as middleware, right? | 11:35 |
T4 | <-itdoesntmatt> What this will change? | 11:35 |
T4 | <-itdoesntmatt> I mean it is just an ui level? | 11:35 |
T4 | <-itdoesntmatt> I repeat sorry but these things are not so easy to get if you are not a dev | 11:35 |
locusf | yes | 11:35 |
locusf | ui level | 11:36 |
locusf | understandably so :) | 11:36 |
T4 | <-itdoesntmatt> Ok. Then it will be still based on qt... Like sailfish? | 11:36 |
T4 | <-itdoesntmatt> What advantages do you expect from that? I d love to see nemo tu succeed | 11:36 |
mal | at least some of the new APIs in newer Qt | 11:37 |
locusf | yes qt based | 11:37 |
locusf | also no restrictions on what apis to use | 11:37 |
locusf | we'd of course need some help with qa | 11:38 |
T4 | <-itdoesntmatt> Ah.. Nice.. I thought that the qt apis were bounded to the middle ware | 11:39 |
T4 | <-itdoesntmatt> If i can help in someway... But I am a doctor, i can help "fixing" people not bugs :P | 11:39 |
T4 | <-itdoesntmatt> 😂 | 11:39 |
T4 | <-itdoesntmatt> Ps: i love the new ui designed by samZAnemesis (dont know his nick here) | 11:42 |
T4 | <-itdoesntmatt> @samzn You! | 11:44 |
T4 | <-NotKit> wish to see UI by @samzn too | 12:28 |
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T4 | <-itdoesntmatt> I ve got a question... Will be xperia x a reference device also for nemo, since adaptation for mer will be done by jolla? | 19:10 |
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locusf | no, it will be proprietary from jolla side so I think its not very feasible to do | 19:38 |
T4 | <-itdoesntmatt> How can it be proprietary? Isnt all open source apart the ui? | 19:38 |
T4 | <-itdoesntmatt> Well i dont know if the single image and adaptation work could be proprietary tbh | 19:40 |
locusf | if sources are open whats the point of having device registration (afaiu) :) ? | 19:43 |
locusf | since it will be distributed only by jolla | 19:43 |
locusf | namely sources open being for the adaptation part | 19:43 |
T4 | <-itdoesntmatt> Uhm i see. | 19:43 |
locusf | having port of nemo for jolla one suffers from the same issue | 19:44 |
T4 | <-itdoesntmatt> Thats sad... Since who want to support jolla will just buy the license.. And if someone want to hack this it wont be so hard. They wont include drm,of course | 19:44 |
locusf | the adaptation part is closed which prevents distribution of images | 19:44 |
T4 | <-itdoesntmatt> :( | 19:45 |
locusf | lets hope so | 19:45 |
T4 | <-samzn> I'll put all my stuff the end of the week | 19:45 |
T4 | <-samzn> Sorry if I'm taking too long to push my changed | 19:45 |
T4 | <-itdoesntmatt> How many devs are working on nemo, right now? Have you try to push it on xda forum? Maybe someone is interested.. Plasma mobile gained some interest indeed | 19:46 |
locusf | @samzn as long as it happens :) | 19:46 |
locusf | @itdoesntmatt me, eekkelund, m2ko and samzn | 19:47 |
T4 | <-samzn> XDA isn't really a nice place | 19:48 |
T4 | <-itdoesntmatt> Oh.. | 19:48 |
T4 | <-samzn> We could put it for users | 19:48 |
T4 | <-samzn> But seeking workforce there or developer support is like talking to a wall | 19:49 |
T4 | <-itdoesntmatt> Why do you think so? Isnt a good way to attract foss supported tired of android? | 19:49 |
T4 | <-samzn> A minority is decent but most are clueless | 19:49 |
T4 | <-itdoesntmatt> Ah oki. | 19:49 |
T4 | <-samzn> Yeah we could put a "ROM" | 19:49 |
T4 | <-samzn> (Photo, 1280x720) https://teleirc.mikaela.info/ZAL58RYD/file_94.jpg | 19:50 |
T4 | <-samzn> (Photo, 1280x720) https://teleirc.mikaela.info/KRy0KPFL/file_95.jpg | 19:50 |
T4 | <-samzn> I wish this could be a thing too lol | 19:50 |
mal | locusf: and sometimes also me | 19:51 |
T4 | <-itdoesntmatt> Windows? | 19:51 |
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locusf | mal oh yes | 19:51 |
T4 | <-samzn> Works surprisingly well, idk why the higher management of these companies are so against a true differential for their mobile os | 19:53 |
T4 | <-samzn> Nokia, Canonical, msft | 19:53 |
T4 | <-eekkelund> @locusf, mal, neochapay, mm maybe more..?:D | 19:56 |
T4 | <-Chipiguay> You're doing an amazing job | 19:58 |
T4 | <-Chipiguay> There something you need to be coded in python? :) | 19:59 |
T4 | <-Chipiguay> That's what i know | 19:59 |
locusf | aaargh neochapay missed ... | 20:00 |
locusf | he's been a machine of sorts too | 20:00 |
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locusf | @chipiguay yes pyqt could work | 20:01 |
T4 | <-Chipiguay> I'm not too experienced, but my SFOS apps are coded with Python+QML | 20:04 |
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T4 | <-Chipiguay> Where do you test your nemo code? a phone, or the VM hacked? | 20:07 |
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T4 | <-eekkelund> @Chipiguay I usually run on my J1 but one can test it also on VM. I made ready vm image that should work. But I think it doesn't have latest changes and it is glacier nemo, not Sam's manhattan version:) … https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Glacier#Virtualbox | 20:09 |
T4 | <-Chipiguay> Manhattan sounds cool! | 20:10 |
T4 | <-eekkelund> Instructions to try it or develop UX on top of SFOS: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Glacier/Installing | 20:10 |
T4 | <-eekkelund> Yeah it looks cool also :D | 20:10 |
T4 | <-Chipiguay> Awesome | 20:13 |
T4 | <-Chipiguay> I also know some c++, but I'm not very skilled | 20:13 |
T4 | <-Chipiguay> :) | 20:13 |
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T4 | <-samzn> @-Chipiguay, There are python bindings for qt if you wanna make apps | 20:27 |
T4 | <-samzn> Whatsup was made in py I think | 20:27 |
T4 | <-Chipiguay> Nemo is not going to tandem PyOtherSide+QML? | 20:28 |
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T4 | <-Chipiguay> If I follow this instructions: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Glacier/Installing … in the VM, I'll get a later release than the image from here https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Glacier#Virtualbox ? | 20:57 |
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