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JustAQuickQuesti | anyone here with experience in compiling for the nokia n9(50) | 16:37 |
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JustAQuickQuesti | ? | 16:37 |
JustAQuickQuesti | or do I need nemomobile-porters for that? | 16:38 |
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filippz- | JustAQuickQuesti: can I help? | 18:01 |
JustAQuickQuesti | I may have fixed it, I had some trouble setting up the sdk for compiling the upstreaming project kernel | 18:02 |
JustAQuickQuesti | meh I may aswell just change name | 18:03 |
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jja2000 | right so | 18:03 |
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filippz- | I've always just used sb2 -t nemo-n950 make ... to compile kernels | 18:04 |
jja2000 | Problem is that never seemed to work for me | 18:04 |
filippz- | you do this inside sdk? | 18:05 |
jja2000 | I used some silly workaround and got it to work in the n950rootfs folder with the -R option :^) | 18:05 |
jja2000 | Yes inside MerSDK | 18:05 |
filippz- | -R should be root IIRC | 18:05 |
jja2000 | Yeah I know | 18:06 |
jja2000 | which is why it's silly | 18:06 |
filippz- | maybe some chown would help - let me check | 18:07 |
jja2000 | Btw is your repo for the kernel adaptation for the n9 more recent than what nemomobile is hosting? I may need to compile that instead then | 18:07 |
filippz- | nope - that's the one | 18:08 |
filippz- | I have moved onto working on mainline kernel, but that's not nearly ready | 18:08 |
jja2000 | Oh good | 18:08 |
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jja2000 | I already noticed the dts missed some important stuff like screen | 18:09 |
jja2000 | I was asking because the commit history for your repo is more recent than the one on nemomobile | 18:09 |
filippz- | if you feel adventorous, I can provide patches for N9 and mainline (form a few months tho) | 18:09 |
jja2000 | Well if I can get some screen output then why the hell not :P | 18:10 |
filippz- | I'm apparently 14 commits behind - not ahead :) | 18:10 |
jja2000 | I don't have a serial connection so yeah | 18:11 |
filippz- | anyways screens should work with mainline - and even PVR | 18:11 |
jja2000 | Wait | 18:11 |
jja2000 | Mainline as in 4.9rc8 | 18:12 |
filippz- | let me reboot to my dev machine, and I'll provide exact version with patches | 18:12 |
jja2000 | kk | 18:12 |
filippz- | version is 4.8-rc2 | 18:14 |
jja2000 | holy | 18:14 |
jja2000 | Is everything broken then or what? I mean, can't imagine it not being patched into mainline already if you've been working on this for a while now | 18:15 |
jja2000 | Wait that doesn't make any sense | 18:15 |
jja2000 | What works and what doesn't? That may be a better question | 18:15 |
filippz- | I can provide patches but PVR is WIP to update drivers to Graphics SDK_5_01_01_02 | 18:16 |
filippz- | can you read trough http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=95966 ? | 18:16 |
jja2000 | Forgive me for asking, but what is a pvr in this case? | 18:17 |
jja2000 | filippz, yeah sure. What am I supposed to find? | 18:17 |
filippz- | PVR = Power VR drivers for SGX 530 GPU | 18:17 |
jja2000 | Oh of course | 18:17 |
filippz- | there are progress updates on mainline stuff | 18:17 |
jja2000 | In the thread itself or any of the main posts? | 18:18 |
jja2000 | The last couple of posts are people bartering about their Nokia N9 64GB that's on sale :^) | 18:19 |
filippz- | you can read my posts from post # 100 - these should give you an idea what is working | 18:22 |
jja2000 | Okay will do | 18:23 |
filippz- | and the patches: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ogx2nbzoxfdhal6/linux.tar.bz2?dl=0 | 18:23 |
filippz- | don't apply the last 2 - they are WIP, that'll probably be dropped | 18:23 |
filippz- | what's is your goal - do you have something specific in mind? | 18:24 |
jja2000 | Well me and a friend of mine kinda like the idea of phones running mainline linux | 18:25 |
jja2000 | Aka phones that never die support wise | 18:25 |
jja2000 | And I just like testing wip stuff | 18:26 |
filippz- | yup, N900 will never die in that regard :) | 18:26 |
jja2000 | Yeah that's a great example | 18:26 |
filippz- | sadly, our main issue are those PVR drivers - more or less the same thing with N900 | 18:27 |
jja2000 | I mean the Nexus 5 made it in mainline aswell, same for the nexus 7 and some of the N9** phones | 18:27 |
jja2000 | hmm | 18:27 |
filippz- | well, we have a big support from Sebastian Reichel - he's working on N950, but won't work on closed source drivers | 18:28 |
jja2000 | Shame there's not a dedicated person like rob clark | 18:28 |
jja2000 | to fix this kind of stuff :^) | 18:28 |
filippz- | and we really need GPU to reach decent performace... | 18:28 |
filippz- | funny thing is that SG530 on other TI SOC-s are still supported and come with native support for wayland | 18:29 |
jja2000 | Well if they're still supported that means someone's still working on them | 18:30 |
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jja2000 | Which also means there's probably a way to contact them | 18:30 |
jja2000 | I wish it was that simple :/ | 18:31 |
filippz- | they com from Imagination Technologies that provides SDK to TI, and TI copiles them for their supported SoC | 18:31 |
filippz- | binaries that supports wayland comes for OMAP5 AFAIK and latter ones | 18:32 |
jja2000 | What I get from this is that the drivers need to be made by a per soc basis instead of per gpu (a bit desktop like)? | 18:32 |
filippz- | there are different revisions of SGX 530 but also some specific stuff for every SoC | 18:33 |
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bencoh | isn't there a working qt/wayland version of nemo for n9? | 18:33 |
jja2000 | Well crap | 18:33 |
jja2000 | bencoh, afaik that's software rendering | 18:34 |
bencoh | ah | 18:34 |
bencoh | llvmpipe/mesa? | 18:34 |
filippz- | nope, we have reall HW supprt, but it's slow :) | 18:34 |
bencoh | how comes? | 18:34 |
jja2000 | well til | 18:34 |
filippz- | http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1489046&postcount=95 | 18:35 |
filippz- | ^ this is what gives us problems | 18:35 |
filippz- | anyways fiddling with fb settings make PVR go wild, and we don't have a clue is it because of wsegl plugin for wayland or drivers or "link" between PVR and kernel | 18:37 |
bencoh | missing interrupts from gpu? | 18:38 |
bencoh | "fun" | 18:38 |
filippz- | I don't have enough knowledge to figure what's to blame :/ | 18:39 |
filippz- | That's the primary reason why there is no reasonably usable SFOS port for N9 | 18:40 |
jja2000 | This is really neat man | 18:42 |
jja2000 | If you have anything you want me to test out just hit me up if I'm in the irc or on Telegram at @jja2000 | 18:43 |
jja2000 | I'll be up for it most of the time, my n9 is not my main phone anyways | 18:43 |
filippz- | as you see from 4.8-rc2, I didn't do much of the workm lately | 18:44 |
filippz- | these might be nice also: http://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/sre/linux-n900.git/ | 18:44 |
filippz- | you will still need display/PVR patches for N9 | 18:45 |
filippz- | and I don't encourage kernel testing with no serial cable :) | 18:46 |
jja2000 | Hah | 18:46 |
jja2000 | okay | 18:46 |
bencoh | huhu | 18:47 |
jja2000 | I'm guessing I am supposed to look at the n950 branch then? I can't imagine the n900 branch to work with this :) | 18:47 |
filippz- | those with n950 in their name - some don't make sense since n9 and n950 don't have the same chips for everything | 18:49 |
jja2000 | Yeah I understand | 18:50 |
filippz- | My idea is to wait for N950 to be merged into mainline, and then simply extend it to include N9 also - since I find contributing to mainline really complex | 18:51 |
jja2000 | You can also just work in your own git repo until you're done and then try and merge it | 18:51 |
jja2000 | Would give people a way to contribute and you'd be able to do version management | 18:52 |
filippz- | Sebastian has my patches and I suppose that he'll (re)use them as needed | 18:52 |
jja2000 | ah | 18:52 |
filippz- | anyways it's a bit hard to rebase all the time, and I'm not that good in git | 18:53 |
jja2000 | Well you have your patches | 18:54 |
jja2000 | Isn't its use to be able to apply it to different versions of the kernel then? Or am I not understanding this correctly | 18:54 |
filippz- | rebase stops on some of the patches if the files being patched end up changed upstream, so it's a bit of work to reapply everything | 18:56 |
jja2000 | Ah I figured that | 18:56 |
filippz- | bottom line - if we can get PVR to perform, rest of the stuff will attract enough people to solve them once semi/usable Nemo/SFOS become available | 18:58 |
filippz- | I know that krnyling even tried with libhybris on N9 and hasn't been able to solve all the issues with PVR - so we're running out of ideas... | 19:00 |
jja2000 | Well not even limited to Nemo or SFOS | 19:00 |
jja2000 | Everything should in theory run then when fixed correctly | 19:00 |
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filippz- | yup, I thing Sebastian is running Debian on his N950, but w/o GPU acceleration | 19:01 |
jja2000 | cool | 19:01 |
jja2000 | Like seriously this is really neat | 19:01 |
jja2000 | But if krnyling tried libhybris, what android drivers (right?) did he use then? If nitdroid has hwa then why can't mainline have it | 19:04 |
filippz- | Closed source = won't be support by mainline, as in never :) | 19:05 |
filippz- | IIRC LG Sniper used OMAP3630 and did have Android GPU driver binary blobs | 19:06 |
jja2000 | ah | 19:08 |
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* filippz- hasn't spent any time even trying to figure out how is Android kernel any different than the "regular" one | 19:10 | |
jja2000 | Well | 19:11 |
jja2000 | I think it probably has to do with compatibility with bionic and surfaceflinger | 19:11 |
jja2000 | that sort of stuff | 19:11 |
jja2000 | It probably boots differently too | 19:11 |
jja2000 | Linaro has been doing efforts to make android come closer to regular linux which is nice | 19:12 |
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filippz- | ^ ah, I misspelled krnlyng | 19:15 |
* jja2000 has no idea why piggz hasn't updated his sfos build for ace yet | 19:15 | |
jja2000 | and tbh I'm too afraid to ask since I have done so for a multitude of times :^) | 19:15 |
filippz- | I have to AFK go for now - I'll be able to help tomorrow afternoon (CET) if needed, but not for the rest of the week until Saturday | 19:20 |
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jja2000 | Sure man | 19:21 |
jja2000 | Thanks for explaining some stuff :) | 19:21 |
jja2000 | The lack of drivers seem to be a problem on ps vita homebrew too | 19:23 |
jja2000 | goddamnit imagination technologies | 19:23 |
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jja2000 | hey uhhh piggz | 19:47 |
piggz | hey | 19:47 |
krnlyng | jja2000: this is how far i got: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1L9gj2fykA | 19:48 |
jja2000 | piggz, did you make anything happen on the update for the desire hd? | 19:49 |
piggz | jja2000: well, no, but ive just done an update for the falon, so could look at 2.0.5.6 for the dhd | 19:49 |
krnlyng | (with nitdroid binary blobs) | 19:50 |
jja2000 | piggz, thanks I've been having trouble installing because of a pesky "No space left on device" error when flashing | 19:51 |
jja2000 | krnlyng, at least it has proven useful as in anims seem to work fairly well | 19:51 |
krnlyng | jja2000: it doesn't work too bad, but it tears | 19:51 |
krnlyng | jja2000: and harmattan is 10 times more fluid | 19:51 |
jja2000 | Well if that was just "getting it to work" then I'd say it's fairly decent no? | 19:52 |
krnlyng | jja2000: i have tried many combinations of fb settings and tried many hacky things with a custom hwcomposer but it didn't get faster :) the only thing thats kind of good is that everything seems to be properly orientated which wasn't the case with previous ports | 19:54 |
jja2000 | Progress! :^) | 19:54 |
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