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| TheOneLaw | Greetings and salutations from http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1498569#post1498569 | 03:10 |
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| locusf | good morning | 07:11 |
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| taaem | For push services maybe there are opening new ways, here is some information about a open source end-to-end encrypted push service, primarily desined for android but should be adoptable for Sailfish I think, its open-source so. Blog post: http://www.xda-developers.com/fastboot-mobile-announce-the-future-of-push-services/ Forum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/future-push-services-ownpush-t3306763 | 09:59 |
| taaem | tbr: r0kk3rz ^ | 09:59 |
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| eekkelund | Good morning, how it is going with android locusf? :) | 10:41 |
| locusf | eekkelund: not good, apparently running android also requires android kernel | 10:43 |
| faenil | taaem: mqtt not enough? | 10:54 |
| taaem | faenil: essentially yes but one should always know the other options i think | 10:55 |
| faenil | sure :) | 10:55 |
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| r0kk3rz | taaem: sounds interesting :) | 10:59 |
| r0kk3rz | faenil: mqtt is good, but it doesnt handle packet encryption | 10:59 |
| r0kk3rz | only transport encryption, so the broker can see all your messages | 10:59 |
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| faenil | r0kk3rz: right | 11:02 |
| faenil | r0kk3rz: though you can encrypt the payload | 11:03 |
| r0kk3rz | you can for sure | 11:05 |
| r0kk3rz | but mqtt doesnt do that for you, you have to figure out a way to do it yourself | 11:05 |
| faenil | r0kk3rz: fair enough, but that shouldn't be a big issue | 11:07 |
| taaem | and its better to let the service do it so not every dev need to implement it for himself | 11:07 |
| faenil | taaem: you just have to build it in a client, right? | 11:07 |
| faenil | no need for everyone to reimplement it | 11:08 |
| taaem | faenil: correct and in the server sending the message | 11:08 |
| faenil | taaem: yeah, if you care about server messages being encrypted as well | 11:09 |
| faenil | in any case, it's just another client-server implementation that people can reuse | 11:09 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah basically | 11:10 |
| r0kk3rz | taaem: ah they havent open sourced it all yet, so who knows how it really works | 11:18 |
| r0kk3rz | the design is similar to tbr's mqtt design | 11:18 |
| taaem | r0kk3rz: i like that pub/priv key idea so only the real server can send a message | 11:21 |
| * faenil has recently moved his mqtt setup (based on tbr's) to use letsencrypt certs | 11:30 | |
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| r0kk3rz | faenil: yeah i need to fix up my scripts to use tls | 11:51 |
| r0kk3rz | not sure how does do though | 11:51 |
| faenil | how does do? | 11:52 |
| r0kk3rz | how you do it | 11:52 |
| faenil | I adapted tbr's old script to add tls, though I heard the new versions he committed already have tls support? | 11:52 |
| faenil | if you need help let me know! | 11:54 |
| r0kk3rz | faenil: i didnt see anything... i only just hacked mine from tbrs recently | 11:55 |
| faenil | mmm | 11:55 |
| faenil | tbr: let me know if you still need me to commit my scripts, I'll clean them up and send them over | 11:56 |
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| faenil | locusf: any chance you could create the recipe for an n950 nemo? | 12:28 |
| r0kk3rz | faenil: did you want to keep using the devaamo.fi server or did we want one on nemo infra? | 12:31 |
| faenil | r0kk3rz: you mean for the distribution of images? honestly, I don't mind...do we have nemo infra to distribute images? | 12:32 |
| r0kk3rz | faenil: i mean mqtt notifications | 12:32 |
| faenil | r0kk3rz: ohh, I'm using my own server | 12:32 |
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| locusf | faenil: I'll try, need help from kido on creating a new bsp+layer | 13:02 |
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| kido | locusf: ask any question you want, I'll answer if I can and when I have time ;) | 13:07 |
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| locusf | kido: ok thanks :) | 13:17 |
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| faenil | locusf: cool | 13:48 |
| locusf | faenil: got started but the amount of non-gitted packages for n950 is just ... boring | 14:21 |
| locusf | and the .spec files are just cp -r buildroot{libdir} stuff | 14:22 |
| faenil | locusf: it shouldn't be more than 10 | 14:22 |
| faenil | so does the recipe require git repos? | 14:22 |
| locusf | https://build.merproject.org/project/show/nemo:devel:hw:ti:omap3:n950-n9 | 14:22 |
| locusf | nope but it would help | 14:23 |
| locusf | I'll commit what I got now | 14:23 |
| faenil | ok | 14:23 |
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| locusf | https://github.com/locusf/nemotablet/tree/bsp-n950 | 14:24 |
| locusf | https://github.com/locusf/meta-n950 | 14:27 |
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| faenil | thanks | 14:28 |
| faenil | I have to free some space on my hdd... xD | 14:30 |
| faenil | oohhh...1tb hdd at 16.50£ at Sainsbury's r0kk3rz | 14:47 |
| faenil | I think I'm going to go right now and get a bunch of them before they run out | 14:47 |
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| faenil | too late, sold out everywhere... | 15:18 |
| faenil | pff | 15:18 |
| r0kk3rz | thats remarkably cheap | 15:22 |
| r0kk3rz | maybe i should go for a quick walk to the supermarket | 15:22 |
| faenil | r0kk3rz: it's out of stock everywhere here, they had 3 in one shop 20mins ago :/ | 15:24 |
| locusf | owah | 15:28 |
| faenil | r0kk3rz: if you find them buy 4 for me please! I'll pay the shipping :D | 15:37 |
| r0kk3rz | :) | 15:38 |
| faenil | I'm not kidding :P | 15:38 |
| r0kk3rz | i expect thats why they're sold out | 15:40 |
| r0kk3rz | but its 2min up the road, so what do i have to lose | 15:40 |
| faenil | just go forrest, go! | 15:41 |
| locusf | lol | 15:41 |
| tbr | faenil: if you have client side scripts that use paho with tls | 15:52 |
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| faenil | tbr: I have the irssi script and the a modified sailfish script that I use on my computer | 15:54 |
| tbr | the latter could be interesting. the irssi script I committed TLS support | 15:55 |
| faenil | it's your paho py stuff | 15:55 |
| tbr | btw: if you use it on the desktop, use upstream paho. I only patched it for sailfish IPHB | 15:55 |
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| faenil | sure, I don't think I'm using your paho | 15:56 |
| tbr | I recently rebased my patches on latest paho master | 15:56 |
| tbr | if someone wants to run it on nemo/sailfish | 15:56 |
| faenil | mmm, ok..I never changed the scripts, never updated paho I guess :D | 15:57 |
| faenil | ah, I misread, thought you said you updated your scripts | 15:59 |
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| r0kk3rz | faenil: no such luck mate, i saw zero evidence of any cheap hdds | 16:09 |
| faenil | r0kk3rz: heh, pity... | 16:09 |
| faenil | r0kk3rz: thanks for trying | 16:09 |
| r0kk3rz | faenil: all good, i got food for tea, so it was somewhat successful | 16:10 |
| faenil | :) | 16:10 |
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| tbr | faenil: I updated the irssi side script to add TLS and rebased my paho iphb patches. Fixing the notification receiver side to support TLS is still on todo. Does that make more sense now? :) | 16:52 |
| faenil | tbr: sure, yeah I got that, eventually ;) | 16:52 |
| r0kk3rz | tbr: ah, thats why i no see ssl stuff in the sailfish script, makes sense | 16:57 |
| tbr | r0kk3rz: feel free to figure it out for me and send patches. please make it configurable. :) | 16:58 |
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| faenil | tbr: patch coming | 17:04 |
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| faenil | tbr: https://github.com/dm8tbr/irssi-mqtt-sailfish/pull/4 | 17:25 |
| faenil | untested, let me know how it goes :) | 17:26 |
| faenil | r0kk3rz: ^ | 17:26 |
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| faenil | TLS is not configurable though :P | 17:30 |
| faenil | should be trivial to add | 17:31 |
| faenil | (I'm busy with real job, sorry :/ ) | 17:31 |
| r0kk3rz | faenil: ready for mwc? | 17:35 |
| faenil | r0kk3rz: nope :D | 17:38 |
| faenil | I'm not going, fwiw | 17:38 |
| faenil | r0kk3rz: you going? | 17:42 |
| tbr | faenil: tnx, will have a look tomorrow. today I'm done for. 7h of running around as a competition judge. | 18:01 |
| faenil | hah :) sure | 18:01 |
| r0kk3rz | faenil: maybe, need to sort out work | 18:02 |
| faenil | cool | 18:02 |
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