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| olesalscheider | Is there any phone at all that does not need closed source drivers (at least for the important hw)? | 18:57 |
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| Stskeeps | all of them really require it for EGL/GLESv2.. | 18:58 |
| olesalscheider | Only for that? I mean there is at least freedreno, although I have no idea if it is usable nowadays | 18:59 |
| tbr | I think there is some progress on the open source graphics implementations. But nothing usable | 18:59 |
| olesalscheider | But most seem to also require it for the cellular modem or gps | 18:59 |
| tbr | there is no reasonable way to get around the cellular modem | 19:00 |
| olesalscheider | Ok, I would not really mind the firmware on it that much, given it does not have access to the main memory or any sensors. | 19:01 |
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| tbr | I haven't seen convincing material that it is really constrained in its memory access. it seems to be an arbitrary limitation by convention. | 19:03 |
| tbr | (on those devices that have an integrated SoC) | 19:05 |
| olesalscheider | Well, that's ... not nice. And I guess there isn't an iommu on most soc that could constrain the access? | 19:06 |
| olesalscheider | The current situation is really annoying in two ways. First of all, because I do not really like closed source stuff having access to my data. | 19:07 |
| olesalscheider | And second, you are stuck with some old kernels when you have to run closed source drivers | 19:07 |
| olesalscheider | (and because I do not even get the chance to vote with my wallet) | 19:09 |
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