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ryukafalzare the Glacier components ready for use at this point?00:35
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* ryukafalz reads through backlog from Saturday... interesting discussion there05:46
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faenilryukafalz: no they are not, as in, they're very very rough versions of alpha08:29
faenilyou can use the if you wish ;)08:29
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faenilryukafalz: but I plan to resume the development very soon, if you're interested08:52
faenil(I mean, everyone can resume development, I'm not captain or anything here, just stating my personal plans :D )08:52
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tbr\o/08:54
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faeniltbr: :) I'm sure you'll help as well :P08:55
tbrhowever I can, sure08:56
faenilI'm torn between porting Glacier components so I can rebase them on Qt5.4 and get all the goodies, or just develop on Jolla, i.e. stay stuck on 5.2 without being able to use the newer components (unless we patch them to make them compile on 5.2, assuming that's not a big chunk of work)08:57
faenilporting Glacier components to Ubuntu Touch, that is08:57
bencohwhat are the 5.4 "goodies" ?08:58
tbrone thing would be working bluetooth smart09:00
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faenilbencoh: don't have the details, but one relevant thing is that the components styling and internals structure changed in 5.3 iirc, so we're working with a structure that's outdated...09:10
faenilaside from that, given that Android and iOS components have been developed in the meanwhile, I'm sure there are plenty of changes to make them more mobile-friendly09:10
faenil(not to say bugfixes and the likes)09:10
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dr_gogeta86hi faenil09:24
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faenildr_gogeta86: o/09:45
locusfhey all09:47
faenillocusf: o/09:47
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dr_gogeta86dt.img are my nightmere11:01
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ryukafalzfaenil: hmm... are components backwards compatible? e.g. would Jolla have to make changes to their components to run them under 5.4?13:33
faenilI don't know about their components, I can't say13:34
faenilbut probably at least something will have to be changed13:34
ryukafalzthat and do we know why they're still on 5.2? :P13:34
faenilbecause they don't have time to move to 5.413:34
ryukafalzaha, gotcha13:34
* ryukafalz sighs13:35
faeniland they won't have time before tablet ships13:35
faeniland all the first issues are fixed13:35
faenilso...I think it's more likely that they move to 5.5 directly XD13:35
ryukafalzit's one thing to do closed development when you have the resources to do so, but when the community wants to do work but can't...13:35
faenilw00t may know more, maybe...or Stskeeps13:35
ryukafalzI can kinda see why they're focusing on the tablet so much though... it is their big new highly publicized product13:38
faenilsure, and let's not forget they have to survive13:38
faenil...somehow...13:38
ryukafalzyeah13:38
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ryukafalzI wish there were some plan in place such that Sailfish wouldn't die if Jolla did though13:39
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faenilryukafalz: well, Sailfish is Jolla's child...so...13:39
faenilMer and Nemo won't die, or, better said, could be kept alive13:40
ryukafalzyeah - Sailfish couldn't, at least not to the same extent13:40
ryukafalzthe Maemo community has been bitten by that w/ Nokia leaving the scene13:41
* ryukafalz is currently using an n90013:41
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ryukafalzsome of these sound like possibly Qt 5.4 - http://reviewjolla.blogspot.com/2015/05/sailfishos-system-upgrade-14-first-info.html13:50
ryukafalz"New UI framework"13:51
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faenilnot sure, never heard about updating qt to 5.413:52
faenilthat's probably just the new Silica layer and homescreen13:52
ryukafalzah, could be13:52
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