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| Oksana | Moin | 05:08 |
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| faenil | it really depends on his definition of "ready for daily use" :D Nemomobile is *not* anywhere close to being ready for daily use :D | 09:08 |
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| uuhimhere | faenil, isnt jolla based on it | 09:10 |
| uuhimhere | faenil, sailfishos | 09:10 |
| chriadam | various components of it, yes, but the UI layer (applications) in SailfishOS aren't part of nemomobile (for the most part, some like fingerterm are exceptions) | 09:13 |
| chriadam | and there are various things in SailfishOS which aren't available in nemomobile (due to licensing restrictions etc) | 09:14 |
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| faenil | uuhimhere: Nemomobile = Mer+NemoMW(middleware) + SilicaUI | 09:21 |
| faenil | ouch sorry | 09:21 |
| faenil | uuhimhere: Nemomobile = Mer+NemoMW(middleware) + GlacierUI | 09:21 |
| faenil | uuhimhere: Sailfish = Mer+NemoMW(middleware) + SilicaUI(closed-source-jolla-specific) | 09:21 |
| faenil | so...yes the core and middleware layers are perfectly fine, but our opensource UI layer (Glacier) is still heavily work in progress | 09:22 |
| faenil | basically all core apps are still coded using the old meego components, and they probably don't even work (completely, or at all) | 09:22 |
| faenil | we need more contributors to fix everything :) | 09:22 |
| uuhimhere | faenil, how come jolla guys could make up silica so fast ? | 09:39 |
| faenil | uuhimhere: because they've got people (good, even) working on it? we've only got spare time contributors...and it's only, like 6-7 of us in total | 09:40 |
| faenil | and I haven't done anything for a long time, for example | 09:40 |
| faenil | locusf has been the most active for quite some time now | 09:41 |
| faenil | since he did his master thesis on glacier, which is quite a cool opportunity :) | 09:41 |
| uuhimhere | faenil, i thought they were just a small group of ex nokias | 09:41 |
| faenil | so he did the homescreen and the dialer | 09:41 |
| uuhimhere | locusf, good job! | 09:41 |
| faenil | uuhimhere: they are. That doesn't change the fact that 2 people working fulltime is +infinite% more than 0 people working on it | 09:42 |
| uuhimhere | faenil, yeah but they dont have the one and only sailpi dev workingon it! | 09:42 |
| uuhimhere | XD | 09:42 |
| uuhimhere | yeah i get what you mean | 09:42 |
| faenil | uuhimhere: sorry I didn't get your sentnece | 09:43 |
| faenil | sailpi? the one? | 09:43 |
| uuhimhere | faenil, locusf, | 09:43 |
| faenil | is he sailpi? :D | 09:43 |
| faenil | ohhh I see what you meant now, sorry still sleepy :D | 09:43 |
| uuhimhere | :) | 09:44 |
| faenil | :) | 09:44 |
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| locusf | uuhimhere: thanks :) | 10:02 |
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| uuhimhere | locusf, np | 10:32 |
| uuhimhere | locusf, hopefully your work will allow for some kind of useable DIY non-android smartphone | 10:33 |
| bencoh | "non-android" ... that would only be on n9/n950, the only phones on which nemo runs natively | 10:41 |
| locusf | yeah the pure adaptation | 10:42 |
| bencoh | nemo/qt5 is way to heavy for n900, and neo900 isnt out yet | 10:43 |
| bencoh | doesnt leave much choice | 10:43 |
| bencoh | (still, it's great work ;) | 10:44 |
| locusf | bencoh: thanks :) | 10:45 |
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| uuhimhere | bencoh, DIY | 10:55 |
| bencoh | DIY and usable for a smartphone is ... complicated ;) | 10:57 |
| locusf | very | 11:00 |
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| locusf | currently there are no apps and no touch for the screen | 11:02 |
| locusf | and it seems that lipstick won't start if the hdmi isn't plugged in | 11:02 |
| bencoh | I guess broadcom driver and/or userland glue blocks waiting for EDID | 11:04 |
| locusf | yep | 11:06 |
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| locusf | giucam: ping | 13:47 |
| giucam | locusf: pong | 13:47 |
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| locusf | giucam: what could be the causes that a egl implementation (in this case broadcom on raspberry pi 2) would return a segmentation fault when querying screen refresh rate? | 13:48 |
| giucam | locusf: no idea | 13:48 |
| giucam | i know that pi's drivers are, let's say, problematic though | 13:48 |
| locusf | yes indeed | 13:49 |
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| locusf | this used to work | 13:51 |
| locusf | but I essentially wanted to clean all my work and start from a clean slate for a release | 13:51 |
| locusf | but then this happened | 13:52 |
| locusf | I wonder if its trying to query the spi screen I've got | 13:53 |
| locusf | that won't return anything sensible as refresh rate | 13:53 |
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