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| locusf | morning | 04:47 |
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| Knew_that_I_WOul | yo | 05:07 |
| Knew_that_I_WOul | hows it going | 05:07 |
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| locusf | DoreyKong: I assume you are uuhimhere? | 05:18 |
| locusf | I have nicks changes ignored | 05:19 |
| locusf | so I had to check from channel logs | 05:19 |
| locusf | anyways, first calls made with gsm board from sailfish | 05:19 |
| DoreyKong | nice | 05:20 |
| DoreyKong | you updated the blog | 05:20 |
| DoreyKong | how do you check channel logs anyway | 05:20 |
| DoreyKong | videos? pics? | 05:21 |
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| locusf | http://www.merproject.org/logs/%23nemomobile/latest.log.html | 05:21 |
| locusf | SailfishOS on Raspberry pi 2, call demo: http://youtu.be/rPMGvapXVyE | 05:22 |
| NickSurfer | do you have a video with the whole unit? also is that an lcd or is it hdmi oout | 05:24 |
| NickSurfer | video with the gsm module on the rbpi2 | 05:24 |
| NickSurfer | and making a call | 05:24 |
| NickSurfer | wanna see how the gsm module looks on the pi2 | 05:25 |
| NickSurfer | also can you show it actually making a call to another mobile ? ie two handsets next to each other | 05:26 |
| locusf | hdmi only | 05:27 |
| locusf | no I don't wanna, I'm just a one man film crew here :) | 05:28 |
| NickSurfer | well until then its just a video of a dialing app on a computer screen | 05:28 |
| locusf | I put up a picture though if you want to see the whole unit | 05:28 |
| NickSurfer | yeah sure | 05:29 |
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| NickSurfer | anyways looking forward to an instructable on the blog | 05:30 |
| NickSurfer | one with actual pictures | 05:30 |
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| locusf | heheh :) | 05:33 |
| locusf | https://twitter.com/locusf/status/573355440597307392?s=09 | 05:34 |
| locusf | I don't know how the soldering was done and in what order but I can try to add pictures to my next post | 05:34 |
| NickSurfer | ok | 05:35 |
| NickSurfer | how thick is it | 05:36 |
| locusf | haven't measured and I think the piscreen doesn't work | 05:38 |
| NickSurfer | roughly | 05:39 |
| NickSurfer | why wont it work? | 05:39 |
| locusf | 12cm | 05:39 |
| locusf | the reset pin in the gsm board is the same pin that drives the led of the screen | 05:40 |
| NickSurfer | and? | 05:42 |
| iekku | morning | 05:43 |
| NickSurfer | i cant see how thats 12 cm high... did you mean 12 long? | 05:44 |
| NickSurfer | and wheres the GSM antenna | 05:44 |
| NickSurfer | lots of holes here man... maybe when you get a proper video/instructable up things will be clearer | 05:46 |
| NickSurfer | locusf, also can you program another pin to be reset? | 05:47 |
| locusf | NickSurfer: I don't know, its wired directly to the breakout board | 05:48 |
| NickSurfer | so the reset pin resets the GSM board right? | 05:49 |
| locusf | iekku: morning | 05:49 |
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| locusf | NickSurfer: not too sure but yes | 05:49 |
| NickSurfer | and by drive the lcd i take it you mean VCC? | 05:50 |
| locusf | no, its different, its for the backlight led | 05:50 |
| locusf | not just power | 05:50 |
| NickSurfer | ok and is the reset active on a high or a low? | 05:51 |
| locusf | so Ican't see anything when ita connected | 05:51 |
| NickSurfer | ok | 05:51 |
| locusf | it depends on when the reset is needed | 05:51 |
| NickSurfer | do you have the schematic pinout for piscreen | 05:52 |
| locusf | nope, I guess its proprietary | 05:53 |
| locusf | I do have one for the gsm board | 05:53 |
| locusf | http://www.open-electronics.org/a-gsmgprs-gps-expansion-shield-for-raspberry-pi/ | 05:54 |
| NickSurfer | is this the screen? http://www.freetronics.com.au/pages/piscreen-advanced-customisation-guide#.VPfvQ1ZoE5Y | 05:54 |
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| locusf | no | 05:56 |
| locusf | https://www.tindie.com/products/ozzmaker/piscreen-35-tft-with-touch-for-the-raspberry-pi/ | 05:56 |
| locusf | thats it | 05:56 |
| NickSurfer | hmm well one option is to have the gsm use the SPARE IO on the piscreen | 06:01 |
| NickSurfer | for power only | 06:02 |
| NickSurfer | or maybe wholly? | 06:02 |
| NickSurfer | locusf, so are any other pins overlapping? if so maybe best to have the gsm module run off the spare io from the LCD? | 06:05 |
| NickSurfer | ie piscreen | 06:05 |
| NickSurfer | but then you would have to modify the software i guess | 06:05 |
| locusf | NickSurfer: yeah | 06:05 |
| NickSurfer | is the software open? | 06:06 |
| locusf | NickSurfer: I'm not sure there are any other pins overlapping, the piscreen uses spi and the gsm board only takes those in the picture | 06:07 |
| NickSurfer | i see | 06:07 |
| NickSurfer | so what are the spi pins | 06:07 |
| locusf | maybe power | 06:07 |
| locusf | thats probably why it doesn't work | 06:08 |
| NickSurfer | well have you tried using the reset pin? | 06:08 |
| NickSurfer | ie hook it up to a +V and does it reset the GSM | 06:08 |
| NickSurfer | i would assume so, since it doesnt reset itself in normal operation | 06:09 |
| NickSurfer | hmm | 06:09 |
| NickSurfer | well | 06:09 |
| NickSurfer | you could bend that one LCD power pin and jumper it to the LCD spare +5V XD | 06:10 |
| NickSurfer | nah thats bad | 06:10 |
| locusf | it does get recognized in the kernel though and I get a framebuffer | 06:11 |
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| NickSurfer | so its just a matter of power | 06:11 |
| locusf | just nothing shows on it | 06:11 |
| NickSurfer | does the backlight seem turned on? | 06:12 |
| locusf | it has a hardware switch for it so yes | 06:12 |
| NickSurfer | ie is it LCD "Black" or no power Black | 06:12 |
| locusf | can't tell for sure, its too lighty in my apartment | 06:12 |
| ryukafalz | Ooh, sailpi - looks nice! :D | 06:15 |
| NickSurfer | locusf, uhhh.. turn off the lights? | 06:15 |
| locusf | next to a window :) | 06:15 |
| NickSurfer | uhhh move it? | 06:15 |
| ryukafalz | such hard problems :P | 06:16 |
| locusf | damnit :D | 06:16 |
| locusf | sure I'll move it | 06:16 |
| locusf | the thing is, before I got it to "ignite" with proper bas eperipheral adress, the piscreen worked just fine on top of the gsm board | 06:17 |
| locusf | I saw it myself | 06:17 |
| locusf | but haven't been able to discern what changed in between | 06:18 |
| NickSurfer | ok so it worked before you initialized the GSM; is that what youre saying | 06:18 |
| locusf | yes | 06:19 |
| NickSurfer | http://ozzmaker.com/piscreen-driver-install-instructions-2/ | 06:23 |
| NickSurfer | gpios=reset:25,dc:24,led:22 | 06:24 |
| locusf | ah | 06:24 |
| locusf | dc 24 means that pin 2 is for gsm board | 06:24 |
| locusf | so it takes power from other pin | 06:25 |
| NickSurfer | i think the best bet is to open the gsm driver and modify it to be able to use the LCD spare | 06:30 |
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| locusf | which driver? | 06:35 |
| locusf | there is just a binary to put some pins on high to start it, rest is ofono + sim900 | 06:36 |
| NickSurfer | ahh | 06:36 |
| NickSurfer | yeah such is GSM | 06:36 |
| NickSurfer | http://raspberrypi.znix.com/hipidocs/topic_gpiopins.htm | 06:36 |
| NickSurfer | locusf, if that gpios listing is all that it requires then it seems that there is no overlap... | 06:40 |
| locusf | NickSurfer: let me try the kernel backlight | 06:40 |
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| locusf | ok the screen does work after putting the console to it | 06:50 |
| locusf | now if touch works at some point in the future it really is a POC DIY smartphone :) | 06:52 |
| ryukafalz | That would be awesome :D | 06:53 |
| ryukafalz | Esp. since the baseband processor is separate from the main CPU since, well, it's a Pi | 06:53 |
| * ryukafalz considers replacing his smartphone :P | 06:54 | |
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| locusf | :) | 06:55 |
| locusf | hmm yes once you activate gsm the display powers down | 07:00 |
| locusf | maybe I could use the arduPi library to put the pin back on | 07:03 |
| locusf | but that would reset the modem then | 07:03 |
| locusf | tricky | 07:04 |
| NickSurfer | is there any way to run the gsm module off both the spare and breakout pins? | 07:06 |
| NickSurfer | *female socket whatever you know what i mean | 07:06 |
| NickSurfer | think if you can jumper the LCD spare's +V onto the GSM board you should be set | 07:07 |
| NickSurfer | since IO dont overlap | 07:07 |
| NickSurfer | locusf, what happens to the gsm if you feed a +5 to the reset? | 07:08 |
| ryukafalz | Just curious, how well does Nemo work on N9 these days? | 07:08 |
| locusf | ryukafalz: haven't tried in months to be honest | 07:11 |
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| locusf | ryukafalz: but it handles calls if you patch some qml | 07:14 |
| locusf | and sms | 07:15 |
| ryukafalz | Is that just because of lack of current dialer/messaging app? | 07:16 |
| NickSurfer | locusf, The RST reset pin of the SIM module is connected to pin 15 of Raspberry PI (GPIO22) | 07:17 |
| NickSurfer | nevermind | 07:17 |
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| NickSurfer | we already talked about this | 07:18 |
| NickSurfer | lol | 07:18 |
| locusf | ryukafalz: there is a dialer app being redone and messaging too once someone gets around and does it | 07:20 |
| ryukafalz | locusf: Where would a good place to start re: working on a messaging app? | 07:21 |
| locusf | ryukafalz: taking a look at qmlmessages :) | 07:21 |
| ryukafalz | My schedule is fairly packed, but I would like to learn QML at some point and messaging is very much in my area of interest | 07:22 |
| locusf | and then replace them with either universal components or do it with pure glacier components | 07:22 |
| locusf | the dialer is currently pure | 07:22 |
| ryukafalz | Hmm, isn't there a framework that exposes more functionality... | 07:23 |
| ryukafalz | libcommhistory | 07:23 |
| locusf | yes | 07:23 |
| locusf | if you have a jolla you can take a look at its messages qml | 07:23 |
| locusf | :) | 07:23 |
| locusf | to get an idea on how the middleware is used | 07:23 |
| ryukafalz | eheh I'm not sure if I want to look at non-open code and then work on a project like that | 07:24 |
| locusf | sure, just a suggestion :) | 07:24 |
| * ryukafalz wishes Sailfish default apps were open :( | 07:24 | |
| NickSurfer | locusf, if you used a ribbon cable to breakout the breakout pins on the GSM then you could potentially still use both the LCD's main GPIO + SPare | 07:25 |
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| unbreakable | Main GIO to connect to rbpi and Spare for power | 07:26 |
| unbreakable | wait is LED = 22 SPI? | 07:26 |
| locusf | yes | 07:26 |
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| ryukafalz | ooh, I just tried generating docs for libcommhistory with doxygen and ended up with a blank page :< | 07:27 |
| unbreakable | can the display driver be modified to use another pin? | 07:27 |
| locusf | no since the wiring inside the lcd is done like that | 07:27 |
| locusf | so it only uses 22 spi | 07:27 |
| unbreakable | yeah but the LCD doesnt care where the spi comes from right? | 07:28 |
| unbreakable | pin 22 pin 24 pin whatever ? | 07:28 |
| locusf | the internal IC's might | 07:28 |
| unbreakable | i doubt it | 07:28 |
| unbreakable | its serial to parallel after that isnt it | 07:28 |
| locusf | http://ozzmaker.com/piscreen-kit-assembly-instructions/ | 07:28 |
| locusf | the board is fixed | 07:29 |
| unbreakable | what im thinking it doesnt matter if the SPI input comes from pin 22 on the RPBI or pin 45 on the arduino... | 07:31 |
| unbreakable | or 1000 on the pandora | 07:32 |
| unbreakable | serial input is serial input no? | 07:33 |
| locusf | I guess | 07:33 |
| locusf | not too much into electronics so I don't know for sure | 07:33 |
| unbreakable | onlything is the driver is programmed to spit out the current signal to pin 22 | 07:33 |
| ryukafalz | locusf: BTW, what's the best way to install Glacier components for development? | 07:33 |
| locusf | ryukafalz: faenil did a desktop build some time ago, he knows best | 07:34 |
| locusf | ryukafalz: maybe VM is easiest though | 07:34 |
| ryukafalz | I do have the Sailfish SDK VM if that would work | 07:34 |
| locusf | I gotta go to work now | 07:34 |
| ryukafalz | ah, alrighty | 07:34 |
| unbreakable | locusf, yeah no ignore that im a moron | 07:34 |
| locusf | ryukafalz: well ours is also an emulator | 07:34 |
| unbreakable | locusf, im mixing up the spare with the lcd with the gsm | 07:35 |
| locusf | no separate mer sdk unless you install one | 07:35 |
| unbreakable | locusf, so the male & female sockets exist? | 07:38 |
| unbreakable | on the piscreeen | 07:38 |
| unbreakable | i think thats your backdoor right there | 07:38 |
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| unbreakable | locusf, actually you know what...looking at the spare on the LCD makes me wonder if that implies that everything else is used by the LCD? | 07:43 |
| unbreakable | locusf, so what are you gonna do | 07:50 |
| locusf | unbreakable: I don't know yet | 08:09 |
| unbreakable | locusf, well let me know when youve got a finished tutorial XD | 08:09 |
| unbreakable | good luck! | 08:10 |
| locusf | unbreakable: thanks! | 08:10 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | morning | 10:42 |
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| vgrade-MWC | time to rest at the airport, I'm beat | 11:49 |
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| hedayat | hi! | 12:49 |
| hedayat | :P | 12:50 |
| [1]oskar | hi guys | 12:50 |
| [1]oskar | i have a question about nemo os for nokia n9 | 12:50 |
| hedayat | Is there any hardware adaptaion for nemo/sfos for Mali GPUs? more specifically, Mali 400 MP4 | 12:50 |
| hedayat | [1]oskar: ? | 12:50 |
| [1]oskar | i want to try it on my device | 12:51 |
| hedayat | [1]oskar: ask, then wait for answers; don't wait to ask. | 12:51 |
| hedayat | :) | 12:51 |
| [1]oskar | I have to use is with ubiboot or i can use meego and nemo mobile without ubiboot? | 12:51 |
| hedayat | [1]oskar: If you want to have both, which is recommended, AFAIK the best solution is using ubiboot | 12:52 |
| [1]oskar | ok and anyone can help me how can i do it becouse i have tried and nitdroid and sailfish was working but arent usable as daily os | 12:53 |
| [1]oskar | i want have only meego and nemo mobile | 12:53 |
| [1]oskar | sorry for my poor english | 12:53 |
| hedayat | [1]oskar: Nemo wouldn't work as daily OS too. The installation should be the same as Sailfish. | 12:54 |
| [1]oskar | isnt stable yet? | 12:55 |
| hedayat | If you've installed ubiboot+sailfish, you can install Nemo the same way | 12:55 |
| [1]oskar | what about apps? | 12:55 |
| hedayat | [1]oskar: No, it's under development and lacks many essential components. If you want a daily OS on N9, you should still stick to Harmattan | 12:55 |
| hedayat | [1]oskar: Not much apps I'd say. :( | 12:56 |
| [1]oskar | ok ;( | 12:56 |
| [1]oskar | we can expect this os in the near future? | 12:56 |
| hedayat | [1]oskar: Near? Seems very unlikely. Sailfish might get there sooner. | 12:57 |
| [1]oskar | I did not mean to be rude | 12:58 |
| [1]oskar | sorry | 12:58 |
| hedayat | [1]oskar: I am sorry. You misunderstood me | 12:59 |
| [1]oskar | i mean if in the next months this os will be under development for n9 yet | 12:59 |
| hedayat | [1]oskar: :) You were OK, and I didn't meant to be rude either. | 12:59 |
| hedayat | [1]oskar: Nemo is under development and lacks many components in itself. It has nothing to do with N9 specifically. | 13:00 |
| [1]oskar | ok thanks for thhe explanation | 13:00 |
| hedayat | [1]oskar: BTW, there are a few people here which test it on N9 | 13:01 |
| hedayat | [1]oskar: you're welcome | 13:01 |
| [1]oskar | i would be a one of them ;) | 13:01 |
| hedayat | [1]oskar: great | 13:01 |
| [1]oskar | im a web developer for my hobby | 13:01 |
| [1]oskar | which technologies are used for coding on nemo os? | 13:02 |
| hedayat | [1]oskar: Mainly Qt (QML) | 13:03 |
| hedayat | as far as I know | 13:03 |
| [1]oskar | can be written in python so far? | 13:03 |
| hedayat | Well, it is mostly for UI part. backend is very similar to normal GNU/Linux OSes | 13:03 |
| [1]oskar | like meego | 13:04 |
| hedayat | [1]oskar: I'm not sure about python support. It should be possible, but I've no experience with it. | 13:04 |
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| hedayat | [1]oskar: you should check Qt5 python support and projects in this regard | 13:05 |
| hedayat | [1]oskar: others in this room should know better than me :P | 13:05 |
| hedayat | [1]oskar: http://wiki.maemo.org/Ubiboot should be useful if you wanted to try Nemo | 13:06 |
| [1]oskar | i found information about it can be written in python and php also | 13:06 |
| [1]oskar | yes i know about this tutorial | 13:07 |
| hedayat | good | 13:07 |
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| [1]oskar | http://images.devaamo.fi/ there are the last build for sailfish and nemo isnt it? | 13:08 |
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| hedayat | [1]oskar: seems so | 13:10 |
| [1]oskar | I do not want to be invasive | 13:11 |
| [1]oskar | but you have nokia n9 too? | 13:11 |
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| hedayat | [1]oskar: yes | 13:13 |
| hedayat | :) | 13:13 |
| [1]oskar | do you use ubiboot? | 13:13 |
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| hedayat | [1]oskar: Yes, I use ubiboot and also my own "N9 easy boot" | 13:15 |
| [1]oskar | ah easy boot its your job? | 13:15 |
| [1]oskar | congratulations | 13:15 |
| hedayat | [1]oskar: (since I've a 16GB N9 and don't want to re-partition it) | 13:15 |
| hedayat | [1]oskar: yes. thanks :"> | 13:16 |
| [1]oskar | i have to 16 gb variant | 13:16 |
| [1]oskar | too* | 13:16 |
| vgrade-MWC | i did a libhybris POC on cubieboard (MALI gpu) SO its possible. Check out the softwinner android device tree and HADK | 13:16 |
| hedayat | vgrade-MWC: thanks. :) Sorry, but you mean SFOS HADK? | 13:17 |
| hedayat | (of there is a separate HADK for libhybris/Nemo? | 13:19 |
| hedayat | ) | 13:20 |
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| [1]oskar | so can u help me to run nemo and sailfish through easy boot.Look i have tried to use sailfish with ubiboot i did something wrong becouse sailfish starts only when i click on nemo os image and not on sailfish os image so i think that kernel which was used by sailfish isnt good and it crash many times, its unstable and unresponsiveness i have tried image from deevamo since 28 january 2015 | 13:22 |
| hedayat | [1]oskar: 1. Yes, SailfishOS (sfos) on N9 is unstable and crashes a lot. There is a problem with its graphics drivers that I've decided to debug, but have not found the time yet. If you want more stable SFOS experience on N9, you should try older images based on X11. But it had some other problems. | 13:24 |
| hedayat | [1]oskar: You've done everything OK | 13:25 |
| hedayat | [1]oskar: However, in ubiboot.conf you've set up sailfish on a wrong item | 13:25 |
| hedayat | [1]oskar: (probably as OS5) | 13:25 |
| hedayat | [1]oskar: To change the icon which should boot SFOS, you should configure it as another number. I think you should configure it as OS6 | 13:26 |
| [1]oskar | ok i know what about u are talking | 13:27 |
| [1]oskar | but if ii wont to use ubiboot i have to make partition and i can lost all my app,settings itd... | 13:28 |
| [1]oskar | i dont know how can i do a whole backup like through cwm/twrp in windows | 13:28 |
| [1]oskar | in android sorry* | 13:28 |
| [1]oskar | so if something goes wrong i must reflash my device and install all again... | 13:29 |
| hedayat | [1]oskar: if you don't want to re-partition, you can use n9 easy boot | 13:29 |
| hedayat | [1]oskar: but you can also create a complete backup | 13:29 |
| hedayat | [1]oskar: Do you use GNU/Linux OS or Windows? | 13:30 |
| [1]oskar | how can i do ot? | 13:30 |
| [1]oskar | windows but i have ubuntu also on virtualbox | 13:30 |
| hedayat | [1]oskar: hmmm... I don't know how to do it on Windows. | 13:32 |
| [1]oskar | and on linux? | 13:33 |
| hedayat | [1]oskar: on linux, when you've installed ubiboot you can connect N9 to your computer using its USB cable, then power on the phone | 13:34 |
| hedayat | (or if phone is running, reboot it or power off/on) | 13:34 |
| hedayat | then, ubiboot will start in 'maintenance mode' | 13:35 |
| [1]oskar | ok | 13:35 |
| hedayat | in this mode, all your N9 partitions are exported to PC as storage media (just like an external HDD/flash) | 13:35 |
| [1]oskar | sounds good ;) | 13:35 |
| hedayat | then you can backup all partitions directly (using something like dd) or mount them and create a .tar file from their content | 13:36 |
| [1]oskar | i see all files from / and not only from home/user/Mydocs/ | 13:36 |
| [1]oskar | i will try easy boot so | 13:37 |
| [1]oskar | i have to flash moslo too? | 13:37 |
| [1]oskar | i have to install ubiboot as usually | 13:38 |
| [1]oskar | then i have to do steps in your readme right? | 13:38 |
| hedayat | moslo? No, it is not needed if you want to use easy boot | 13:39 |
| hedayat | it is needed for re-partitioning | 13:39 |
| hedayat | Yes | 13:39 |
| [1]oskar | understood everything | 13:40 |
| [1]oskar | tomorrow i will try if something goes wrong i will ask here | 13:40 |
| hedayat | ok :) | 13:41 |
| [1]oskar | thanks man u are very helpful and friendly | 13:42 |
| hedayat | you're welcome | 13:42 |
| hedayat | filippz: hi! does ofono work fine on your sfos for N9? I've downloaded the files but it seems that it doesn't work. | 13:44 |
| hedayat | filippz: when I enter PIN (in its initial wizard), sfos says that I should restart the phone; but after restart the wizard appears again. | 13:45 |
| hedayat | filippz: If I skip rebooting the phone, it still seems that SIM is not activated. | 13:46 |
| [1]oskar | @hedayat are you using any tweaks for increase performance on n9?exclude fastern9 opptimizer open mode kernel plus power pack? | 13:59 |
| [1]oskar | and swap | 14:00 |
| hedayat | [1]oskar: Nope. I use openmode kernel and kernel plus, but I've not tried any tweaks to increase performance yet | 14:01 |
| hedayat | filippz: Also looks like that I can't save any settings, including setting password for ssh | 14:03 |
| hedayat | filippz: But I could change and save the ip address | 14:04 |
| hedayat | :P | 14:04 |
| [1]oskar | after my last reflash cause by ubiboot problem i notice that after each reboot i have to reinsert passwd for nokia account and sometimes for email too | 14:17 |
| [1]oskar | is stable kernel plus?you use it with ubiboot or without? | 14:18 |
| hedayat | [1]oskar: yes, it should be stable. Password problems should be caused by something else. | 14:19 |
| hedayat | Also I remember that when you wanted to go to open mode, you should removed some files if you've saved any passwords before going to open moe | 14:19 |
| hedayat | mode | 14:19 |
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| [1]oskar | i dont have to reflash my system if i wont to flash kernel + | 14:31 |
| hedayat | When you install ubiboot, you go to open mode | 14:37 |
| [1]oskar | i have to put this kernel to boot dir into home/user/MyDocs on i root direcotory boot? | 14:41 |
| hedayat | [1]oskar: IIRC, you can do both, but I've put them in /boot | 14:42 |
| hedayat | which should be the same as default ubiboot.conf | 14:43 |
| hedayat | If you put them to somewhere else, you should change ubiboot.conf accordingly | 14:43 |
| [1]oskar | can you paste your ubiboot.conf on some hosting? | 14:43 |
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| hedayat | I'm leaving right now, but it should be almost identical to what is included in n9 easy boot | 14:44 |
| hedayat | :) | 14:44 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | hi guys | 15:29 |
| dr_gogeta86 | piggz, how many hacks you did on fb | 15:30 |
| dr_gogeta86 | ? | 15:30 |
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| locusf | ah man thanks hedayat for helping oskar | 17:12 |
| locusf | I just got back home from work and have been in irc blackout | 17:12 |
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| filippz | hedayat: sorry - I wasn't around earlier - too busy with other things these days 24/7 :( | 18:42 |
| filippz | I was going trough nemo ks, and it occured to me that maybe c/p that ks to sailfish one and doing fixes on it would be good idea | 18:43 |
| filippz | Especially since some hacks from old ks didin't work anymore - in the end seems to me that sfos on n9 performs a better than before (still laggy but a tad faster) | 18:43 |
| filippz | As for ofono, and maybe some other stuff that were fixed earlier, it can be that those commits haven't yet made their way into these Jolla builds | 18:43 |
| filippz | I didin't loose much sleep over it since we are still waiting for "the merge", and we'll see what works and what not after that | 18:44 |
| filippz | As for settings - for me it didn't work even in the old builds - I had to shuffle ssh keys during the "flashing" in order to connect to N9 | 18:44 |
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| filippz | I guess that password saving from settings app needs some special setting (security is a bitch sometimes) and we need to hack whataver it needs into ks | 18:44 |
| filippz | I'm also keeping fingers crossed for vakkov who's trying to make libhybris for GPU on n9 which could be performance boost we need | 18:45 |
| locusf | yeah vakkov is a superstar really :) | 18:45 |
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| vakkov | filippz: ugh, hybris will be a pain... but i tried updateing to a new sgx ddk from TI with the idea to eventually get newer SGX libs with better support (the ones by Nokia are the first to ever support n9's SoC ) and to update the wsegl after that | 18:47 |
| vakkov | there is some hope there!!! | 18:47 |
| vakkov | although nokia seem to have changed some stuff in those libs but at least we now have IDA with arm support (i dont think i actually should even say this here, but i will take the risk) | 18:48 |
| vakkov | for hybris the dss changes so much (also becuase of the newer kernel version) that it would take ages even with a uart kit... and i dont have a uart kit :P | 18:49 |
| filippz | vakkov: I saw that Moto 360 uses the same SoC - can we reuse some of that code? | 18:50 |
| vakkov | filippz: many phones have the same Soc; i for example was checking some stuff from the lge-kernel-sniper (forgto the exact model; should be optimus black p970) | 18:51 |
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| vakkov | but that doesnt change the fact | 18:51 |
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| vakkov | that we dont have an adequate support for the display for newer kernels | 18:51 |
| vakkov | it is now using the old display.h and much other stuff.. | 18:52 |
| vakkov | i actually also looked at some stuff from panel-taal that is much similar (it is again a nokia panel from the same era) | 18:52 |
| vakkov | maybe there is a chance but i think we can just update the wsegl looking at hybris | 18:53 |
| vakkov | :P | 18:53 |
| filippz | so the thing is that we need a lot of changes in "one go" for kernel to make this happen... | 18:54 |
| vakkov | exactly | 18:54 |
| vakkov | a different DSS, support for the panel itself, ion, and at the end sgx stuff | 18:55 |
| vakkov | and the dss; boy, the dss is my nightmare :D | 18:55 |
| filippz | on the "bright" side... I was looking at GPS - we can safely say we can't get it to work | 18:56 |
| vakkov | maybe Stskeeps can say if the "update the old omap3 wsegl" idea is good; keeping in mind it is wort it for us (the lovers of old omaps that use insanely written drivers) | 18:57 |
| vakkov | filippz: if it uses some protocol by nokia as on the n900 - we cant :D | 18:57 |
| vakkov | filippz: is that the case here? | 18:58 |
| vakkov | i remember they actually once had n900's gps working i nemo by using some library but it was long ago | 18:58 |
| filippz | vakkov: chip speaks MEIF, on some sammies they made it speak NMEA (http://redmine.replicant.us/projects/replicant/wiki/BCM4751) | 19:00 |
| vakkov | i think e-yes once referred to this link :P | 19:02 |
| vakkov | filippz: gps shouldn't be a priority now :P | 19:02 |
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| vakkov | filippz: http://pandorawiki.org/SGX_drivers | 19:04 |
| vakkov | check this table out | 19:04 |
| vakkov | we are now using some modified by nokia 1.4.14.2514 libs | 19:05 |
| vakkov | i tried with ti's 4.06.00.03 i think | 19:06 |
| vakkov | newer ones had a problem with setting the option that builds with a support for already registered pvrsrvkm device | 19:07 |
| vakkov | nvm; gotta go now; i will try again sometime next week probably; too much stuff to do now | 19:08 |
| filippz | vakkov: I'm a n00b when it comes these things, so i went to look what can be done with gps :) | 19:08 |
| filippz | vakkov: thanks for keeping us int the loop - maybe hedayat already has some ideas for wsegl that can be tested before digging too deep into this | 19:10 |
| vakkov | filippz:keep me in touch if there is anything new, pls | 19:12 |
| bencoh | vakkov: https://www.gitorious.org/tui/tui/source/4ada8ac01531d1fedd5d79d64efec6845e08f8af:maemo/gps2.c | 19:15 |
| bencoh | (n900 gps userland code) | 19:16 |
| bencoh | (not from nokia, of course) | 19:16 |
| vakkov | Gitorious is being acquired by GitLab and gitorious.org will shut down end of May wuuuut | 19:17 |
| vakkov | bencoh: is this leaked somehow :D is it available elsewhere | 19:18 |
| bencoh | yeah ... we need to move everything from there | 19:18 |
| bencoh | vakkov: https://wiki.maemo.org/N900_GPS_Reverse_Engineering | 19:18 |
| vakkov | bencoh: are you form the CSSU guys | 19:19 |
| bencoh | I dont think the n9 gps uses the same protocol, though | 19:19 |
| bencoh | vakkov: no I'm not, just a maemo/n900 user (and a C developer) | 19:19 |
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| filippz | sadly not the same chip - that would be too easy :( | 19:24 |
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| M4rtinK | locusf: so UC now has the cross platform TopMenu :) | 20:30 |
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| locusf | M4rtinK: great, good job :) | 20:36 |
| M4rtinK | also a PlatformFlickable and PlatformListView so that platform enhanced Flickables and ListViews can be used | 20:38 |
| M4rtinK | like the SilicaFlickable and SilicaListView with fast scroll | 20:38 |
| M4rtinK | or any similar enhanced Glacier Flickable or ListView in the future | 20:39 |
| locusf | good idea | 20:40 |
| locusf | we have listviews in specs | 20:41 |
| M4rtinK | also can be used with the TopMenu to get it without a header, but users need to make sure to provide triggering themselves on platforms where the flickable does not open menus by pulling | 20:41 |
| M4rtinK | eq. show a button to pen the menu when using Controls | 20:42 |
| M4rtinK | yeah, some unified fast scroll would be nice :) | 20:42 |
| M4rtinK | the current top/bottom fast scroll is better than nothing | 20:43 |
| locusf | have you seen our specs? | 20:43 |
| M4rtinK | ages ago :D | 20:43 |
| M4rtinK | like maybe the first iteration qwazix did :D | 20:43 |
| locusf | https://github.com/qwazix/glacier-controls-spec | 20:44 |
| locusf | thats 7 months ago now,, so not that fresh | 20:45 |
| locusf | but better than nothing | 20:45 |
| M4rtinK | cool, I'll take a look :) | 20:47 |
| gogeta | hi guys | 20:48 |
| locusf | hey gogeta | 20:51 |
| gogeta | something new M4rtink | 20:51 |
| gogeta | ? | 20:51 |
| M4rtinK | <M4rtinK> locusf: so UC now has the cross platform TopMenu :) | 20:52 |
| M4rtinK | * SfietKonstantin odešel (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) | 20:52 |
| M4rtinK | <locusf> M4rtinK: great, good job :) | 20:52 |
| M4rtinK | <M4rtinK> also a PlatformFlickable and PlatformListView so that platform enhanced Flickables and ListViews can be used | 20:52 |
| M4rtinK | <M4rtinK> like the SilicaFlickable and SilicaListView with fast scroll | 20:52 |
| M4rtinK | gogeta:^^^ | 20:52 |
| gogeta | nice | 20:53 |
| M4rtinK | and while it is kinda unrelated to Nemo | 20:55 |
| M4rtinK | I've found out someone managed to compile Monav for Sailfish OS and thus Qt 5 | 20:56 |
| gogeta | a question | 20:56 |
| gogeta | in pvt | 20:56 |
| M4rtinK | sure | 20:56 |
| locusf | whats monav? | 20:57 |
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| M4rtinK | it's an offline navigation system | 21:07 |
| M4rtinK | locusf: it has offline routing, address search and even map rendering | 21:07 |
| gogeta | locusf, rebooted n9 with nemo | 21:07 |
| M4rtinK | locusf: but it is rather incomplete and kinda abandoned upstream | 21:07 |
| gogeta | ouch | 21:07 |
| M4rtinK | but the routing code is pretty good | 21:07 |
| M4rtinK | and it has a routing daemon part | 21:08 |
| M4rtinK | modRana is using it for offline routing on the N900 | 21:08 |
| M4rtinK | and there is a global Monav offline routing data for it (http://data.modrana.org/monav) | 21:09 |
| M4rtinK | the issue is that the daemon has some rather unnecessary dependencies | 21:09 |
| M4rtinK | such on protocol buffers, QService code and even some on QWidget (!) | 21:10 |
| M4rtinK | so now I'm trying to gut it out to leave a simple CLI utility that accepts JSON routing requests from argv | 21:10 |
| M4rtinK | and spits out the route as JSON on stdout | 21:11 |
| M4rtinK | QJsonDocument is part of Qt 5 since 5.0, so that brings no additional dependencies | 21:11 |
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| M4rtinK | but the funny thing is I don't really know C++ so it is a lot of fun working on it :D | 21:12 |
| M4rtinK | I guess I can also package it for Nemo once it is in a workable state | 21:15 |
| M4rtinK | as it should be usable by any application feeding it the correct data & being able to parse the output | 21:15 |
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| gogeta | locusf, mix nemo and jolla apps is dangerous ? | 21:39 |
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