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| hedayat | \o/ :D | 06:01 |
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| filippz | morning | 06:23 |
| filippz | hedayat: I was looking at shutdown log from the other day (http://pastebin.com/TfMHVRzw) - at some point non system systemd (PID!=1) creates -.slice - any ideas as to how/why? | 06:37 |
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| hedayat | filippz, no, not yet. Unfortunately, I have not looked at the issue yet. | 06:49 |
| filippz | hedayat: np, just I can't figure it out. If I'm understanding it correctly -.slice should be created by systemd of PID=1 and there is no mention of other ways... | 06:50 |
| hedayat | filippz, IIRC, it was not a -.slice but a client-.slice. No? | 06:51 |
| filippz | hedayat: no, it states "systemd[315]: Created slice -.slice." | 06:51 |
| hedayat | filippz, ah, ok. I don't see (currently) that it is essentially created by PID=1. It is called 'root slice', maybe it is also a root slice for systemd --user | 06:55 |
| hedayat | The whole user owned services (including his systemd instance) should be under user.slice | 06:56 |
| hedayat | So probably we have two -.slices: one created by systemd PID=1, the other by user systemd | 06:56 |
| hedayat | Anyway, I'm not sure, but it seems that creating -.slice is caused by starting some other services. What I suspect, | 06:57 |
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| hedayat | but have not investigated yet, is that it is related to the services which systemd says (well, alsmost!): ..... handoff timer, restarting | 06:57 |
| hedayat | filippz, You might try completely stopping such services manually before shutdown, and see if it has any effects | 06:58 |
| filippz | hedayat: will try that, but even if user system should create -.slice, shouldn't it do so on its start (only)? | 07:00 |
| hedayat | filippz, My guess: all user services are terminated, so it stops -.slice too; then another service is going to be started, so it starts -.slice again! :P let me check the logs you posted. | 07:07 |
| filippz | ^ maybe it's because "Stopped target User session" before that... So we have to figure out why buch of services get "holdoff time over, scheduling restart." | 07:07 |
| hedayat | filippz, I don't see any messages about stopping -.slice, so I should be wrong! | 07:09 |
| hedayat | don't count on my guesses, I should stop guessing before investigation. :P sorry | 07:09 |
| hedayat | but the holdoff timer is weird. systemd should not try to restart any services when it is stopping | 07:10 |
| filippz | hedayat: yup - also should it state "Stopped target Shutdown" or should it in fact start that target? | 07:11 |
| hedayat | filippz, You are right, it should probably say 'Starting target shutdown' followed by 'Reached target shutdown' | 07:13 |
| filippz | hedayat: I'm right? I'll have to show this to my wife :) | 07:14 |
| hedayat | filippz, :)) | 07:14 |
| hedayat | filippz, or maybe 'systemd --user' should not bother with 'shutdown' target at all! | 07:15 |
| filippz | it seems that after "Stopped target User session" bunch of services are still running and get "holdoff time over, scheduling restart" | 07:16 |
| filippz | I'll try to google for some shutdown logs from a Jolla, and see how it should be done | 07:18 |
| hedayat | that'd be good; but since there are no persistance logs by default, it might not be easy | 07:20 |
| hedayat | however some users of this channel might be able to help us | 07:21 |
| hedayat | like Morpog | 07:21 |
| filippz | hedayat: http://pastebin.com/B6JpfBbX (from N9 but shutdown seems to be OK) | 07:23 |
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| filippz | I have to go but now I have better understanding of the problem - ty hedayat! | 07:31 |
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| hedayat | filippz thank you too | 07:40 |
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| locusf | morning | 09:06 |
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| hedayat | locusf, morning | 09:08 |
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| locusf | it seems that voice calls are a quite complex beast, at least by looking at Jollas implementation of their dialer | 09:57 |
| Stskeeps | they are | 09:59 |
| tbr | a brazilion of corner cases in specs, long forgotten but still to be supported network features, ... | 10:00 |
| gogeta | locusf, http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1450975#post1450975 | 10:03 |
| gogeta | i've cryed ... | 10:03 |
| gogeta | sorry without #post | 10:04 |
| locusf | gogeta: nice | 10:05 |
| gogeta | nowadays is a futile project ... | 10:09 |
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| locusf | hmm nemo-qml-plugin-folderlistmodel is out of the merged middleware | 13:22 |
| Stskeeps | probably a slipup | 13:23 |
| Stskeeps | i'm checking everything through atm | 13:23 |
| locusf | ok thanks :) | 13:24 |
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| locusf | first call made with glacier dialer :) | 15:19 |
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| filippz | locusf: nice :) | 15:28 |
| locusf | now to make answering capabilities | 15:28 |
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| locusf | and answered | 15:41 |
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| filippz | locusf: \o/ | 15:44 |
| locusf | calling from Nemo Jolla to Nemo Maguro would be cool | 15:48 |
| locusf | actually I can't | 15:51 |
| locusf | the buttons width is fixed in Qt Components Nemo | 15:51 |
| locusf | thus the UI won't fit to Jolla screen | 15:52 |
| locusf | although its just fine in Maguro | 15:52 |
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| locusf | yup, calling from hadk implementation to Nemo Jolla just worked :) | 16:13 |
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| Wizzup | win 21 | 17:24 |
| Wizzup | oops. hurrrrr | 17:24 |
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| hedayat | locusf: The change I told you the other day fixed the ofono crash. I should check if that line is not needed in any situations. | 19:42 |
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| locusf | hedayat: oh cool, have you made a pull request yet? | 19:42 |
| hedayat | No, not yet. I should make sure that that line is never needed. If not, I'll remove that line; otherwise that line should be conditioned. | 19:44 |
| hedayat | Then, I think the change should be sent upstream. | 19:44 |
| hedayat | But I'll add a PR to nemo anyway | 19:45 |
| locusf | hedayat: ok, good | 19:45 |
| ryukafalz | locusf: Hmm, is voice call logic not handled through Telepathy as messaging is? | 19:55 |
| ryukafalz | (reading through scrollback a bit, heh) | 19:55 |
| locusf | ryukafalz: it is in the background | 19:55 |
| locusf | ryukafalz: https://github.com/nemomobile/voicecall/blob/master/plugins/declarative/src/voicecallmanager.cpp <- using this atm | 19:55 |
| ryukafalz | Hmm... well I can't claim to fully understand the Qt-specific aspects of it at this point, but it seems pretty straightforward | 19:59 |
| locusf | it is once I got the right provider | 19:59 |
| locusf | the telepathy one didn't work on Nemo Jolla | 19:59 |
| locusf | but it did on maguro | 19:59 |
| locusf | so I ended up installing voicecall-qt5-plugin-ofono on both, which solved the problem | 19:59 |
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| ryukafalz | hmm... wouldn't that indicate that it's using something else on Jolla? | 20:00 |
| locusf | I can't really tell | 20:01 |
| alterego | If you hsve questions about voicecall I'm probs the guy to ask ;) | 20:01 |
| locusf | because telephony.defaultProviderId doesn't tell it | 20:01 |
| locusf | alterego: cool :) | 20:01 |
| alterego | Though I've not touched it in a while, it is my baby ;) | 20:02 |
| ryukafalz | well I'm curious as to what kind of connecting work would need to be done for XMPP audio call support as gabble already supports it | 20:03 |
| ryukafalz | (video is of course quite another beast ;) | 20:03 |
| alterego | and it should be using telepathy | 20:03 |
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| alterego | ryukafalz: well, funnily I'll be working on SIP support a bit over the next week. It mostly works, or has done in the past. | 20:04 |
| alterego | Does XMPP use farstream? | 20:05 |
| ryukafalz | Well XMPP itself doesn't require it ofc, but I believe telepathy-gabble does use it | 20:06 |
| ryukafalz | Actually, isn't that part of the telepathy specification? | 20:06 |
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| ryukafalz | http://telepathy.freedesktop.org/spec/Channel_Type_Call.html | 20:07 |
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| ryukafalz | (so not part of the spec per se, but yes gabble does use it) | 20:08 |
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| alterego | ryukafalz: just means it should "just work" when I clean up all that part. | 20:09 |
| ryukafalz | actually hold on, I think I'm mistaken re: telepathy architecture | 20:10 |
| alterego | farstream is just the nice way to handle media streams. | 20:11 |
| ryukafalz | right, and using farstream or not is the responsibility of the handler rather than the CM | 20:11 |
| alterego | That the rest of telepathy uses for call handling. | 20:12 |
| ryukafalz | in any case, that's good to hear :) | 20:12 |
| alterego | Though not sure off hand if the right audio policy is in place. | 20:13 |
| ryukafalz | policy? | 20:14 |
| alterego | Yes, to play nice with all the other media playback stuff in a phone. | 20:14 |
| ryukafalz | ahh right | 20:15 |
| alterego | Anyhow, got things to do. Laters :) | 20:15 |
| ryukafalz | o/ | 20:16 |
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| hedayat | locusf: My PR against ofono: https://github.com/nemomobile-packages/ofono/pull/268 | 22:26 |
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