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| ryukafalz | M4rtinK: Noooo more component sets why D: | 00:53 |
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| ryukafalz | welp | 00:53 |
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| M4rtinK | ryukafalz: everybody loves doing half baked component sets! :D | 01:08 |
| ryukafalz | :( | 01:08 |
| ryukafalz | I mean admittedly it does look rather nice | 01:08 |
| M4rtinK | actually my universal components can be seen as yet another component set :) | 01:08 |
| ryukafalz | heheh, true :P | 01:09 |
| M4rtinK | depends :) | 01:09 |
| ryukafalz | but that's there for cross-platform compatibility, so I'll allow it :P | 01:09 |
| M4rtinK | if the pictures are mockups or working application screenshots :) | 01:09 |
| M4rtinK | but I'm afraid nr. 1 is more probable :) | 01:10 |
| ryukafalz | I mean, the applications are blank windows so it may well be "working" ;) | 01:10 |
| M4rtinK | hh | 01:12 |
| ryukafalz | I wish at least Ubuntu would just use QQC | 01:13 |
| ryukafalz | since it's open source anyway | 01:13 |
| ryukafalz | well, now that I think about it, their UI is a bit different so that might not work either | 01:14 |
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| M4rtinK | but still yet another barrier for multi-platform development | 01:29 |
| M4rtinK | its like they just did not want people to develop for their platform :) | 01:29 |
| M4rtinK | BTW, Ubuntu Touch is a huge trainwreck in itself from what I've heard | 01:30 |
| M4rtinK | they recently even forked Trojita | 01:30 |
| M4rtinK | reportedly the development is going somewhere on in private without community involvement | 01:30 |
| M4rtinK | & all those NIH components | 01:31 |
| M4rtinK | no wonder they still don't have any real devices running it | 01:31 |
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| ryukafalz | M4rtinK: I mean, I'm kind of divided on that one... because they do private development, but then so does Jolla in some respects | 01:36 |
| ryukafalz | and the Ubuntu Touch code does end up open source | 01:36 |
| ryukafalz | but Jolla contributes more upstream | 01:37 |
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| M4rtinK | well yeah | 01:52 |
| M4rtinK | but I'm more on Jollas side on this one | 01:52 |
| M4rtinK | sure, it is stupid they don't open source more components | 01:53 |
| M4rtinK | especially the ones they have authored themselves so there can't be an "third party code" excuses | 01:53 |
| M4rtinK | but at least most o the Jolla core & middle ware development is going on in the open | 01:54 |
| ryukafalz | I just wish there were more of a push for interoperability between Silica/Ubuntu/Plasma/etc. | 01:54 |
| M4rtinK | and they contribute upstream and don't push their own NIH everywhere | 01:54 |
| ryukafalz | yeah | 01:54 |
| ryukafalz | I need to make sure I make it to the next collaboration meeting though | 01:55 |
| M4rtinK | the problem with Canonical is | 01:55 |
| ryukafalz | since the topic of open sourcing sailfish apps is being specifically brought up there | 01:55 |
| M4rtinK | that even before the latest round of "lets do everything ourselves" | 01:55 |
| M4rtinK | they have been using heavily patched versions of everything | 01:55 |
| M4rtinK | so even when you have the code from Canonical | 01:56 |
| M4rtinK | you might not be able to use it due to not working at all without patching half of your system libs | 01:56 |
| M4rtinK | AFAIK all the attempts to run Unity outside of Ubuntu ended on this | 01:56 |
| M4rtinK | similar thing with Launchpad | 01:57 |
| ryukafalz | yeah, that's the irritating thing about it | 01:57 |
| M4rtinK | there is next to none deployment docs | 01:57 |
| M4rtinK | and the icons are not free | 01:57 |
| M4rtinK | so yes, it is open | 01:57 |
| M4rtinK | but no provisions to be actually useful outside of the Ubuntu land :) | 01:57 |
| ryukafalz | fair enough :P | 01:57 |
| M4rtinK | also looking forward to the meeting | 01:58 |
| ryukafalz | I need to make sure I'm actually free then | 01:58 |
| ryukafalz | and set reminders because I keep missing those | 01:58 |
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| M4rtinK | BTW, I might have kinda started the latest round of "make it open source already": https://together.jolla.com/question/63588/jolla-tablet-fully-open-source-os/ | 01:58 |
| M4rtinK | basically the way I see it | 01:59 |
| M4rtinK | their current marketing about the tablet is very very misleading in regards of openness if they want to keep the status quo | 01:59 |
| ryukafalz | Oh haha I saw that earlier, didn't realize it was you :P | 02:00 |
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| M4rtinK | and there have not been *any* concrete statements about changing the current state - so there you have it :) | 02:00 |
| M4rtinK | I posted this one followed by about 12 other questions :) | 02:01 |
| M4rtinK | mostly based on past (bad) experience with different product launches, to hopefully clarify things before it is too late :) | 02:01 |
| ryukafalz | yeah, I don't imagine it will be open sourced | 02:02 |
| ryukafalz | but I'm hoping some of the apps will be at least | 02:02 |
| ryukafalz | IM client specifically | 02:02 |
| ryukafalz | the backend is already open | 02:02 |
| M4rtinK | listing: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1448146&postcount=415 | 02:02 |
| ryukafalz | heheh | 02:03 |
| ryukafalz | I need to participate on both TMO and TJC more | 02:03 |
| M4rtinK | ryukafalz: sure, while I still don't agree with their Open Source policy, this is understandable | 02:03 |
| M4rtinK | but they need to change their marketing then | 02:03 |
| M4rtinK | because there are lying | 02:03 |
| * ryukafalz agrees | 02:03 | |
| M4rtinK | "change whatever you like, whenever you like" just does not hold if most of the UI is closed | 02:04 |
| Morpog_PC | M4rtinK, put nemo on it, tada | 02:04 |
| Morpog_PC | or are you arguing with googles AOSP that all google apps are closed? | 02:05 |
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| M4rtinK | I'm arguing that marketing about the Jolla tablet is misleading or even outright false | 02:06 |
| M4rtinK | basically: | 02:07 |
| M4rtinK | Unique and independent Sailfish OS | 02:07 |
| M4rtinK | Jolla Tablet’s Sailfish operating system will be unlike anything you’ve tried before. Once you try it, you’ll never want to go back. Independent and open source, change whatever you like, whenever you like. | 02:07 |
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| M4rtinK | The last sentence is pretty much false at the moment. | 02:07 |
| Morpog_PC | sounds all correct to me | 02:07 |
| Morpog_PC | it's not, you are just making the wrong assumtion out of it | 02:07 |
| M4rtinK | well, it is not open source | 02:07 |
| M4rtinK | and because of that you can't "change whatever you like" | 02:08 |
| M4rtinK | that's how I see it | 02:08 |
| Morpog_PC | sure you can, just replace the closed stuff | 02:08 |
| Morpog_PC | thats how I see it | 02:09 |
| M4rtinK | well, that is a rather bold interpretation | 02:09 |
| * ryukafalz has some thoughts on this but is slightly busy at the moment | 02:09 | |
| Morpog_PC | I could say yours is pretty narrow | 02:10 |
| Morpog_PC | We both are right | 02:10 |
| M4rtinK | with this interpretation even it iPad is "Independent and open source" and you can "change whatever you like, whenever you like" | 02:10 |
| Morpog_PC | anyways, 3am here, I'm going to bed | 02:10 |
| Morpog_PC | No you can't, it's locked down | 02:11 |
| M4rtinK | because there are some bits based on BSD in it a you just need to replace the whole OS :) | 02:11 |
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| M4rtinK | no problem, just find backdoor or use a tunneling microscope to change the silicon on the chip :P | 02:11 |
| ryukafalz | Okay, personally I think it's a bit disingenuous to advertise it as open source when a large portion of it (UI and default apps) is closed source | 02:12 |
| ryukafalz | 'night | 02:12 |
| M4rtinK | simple right ? :) | 02:12 |
| M4rtinK | I just don't like people marketing something as open source when it clearly isn't | 02:12 |
| ryukafalz | I'd agree with you there | 02:13 |
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| ryukafalz | at the same time I currently like Sailfish over Android - even though Sailfish is more closed, Jolla seems to be moving in the direction of opening more | 02:14 |
| ryukafalz | as opposed to Google who is gradually locking down Android | 02:14 |
| bencoh | meh, they're both "closed" | 02:16 |
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| ryukafalz | bencoh: Well, Android is largely open source - you have a fully functional device with just AOSP for example | 02:17 |
| bencoh | what about closed-source ril ? | 02:18 |
| bencoh | not sure everyone would call a no-telephony device "fully functional" | 02:18 |
| bencoh | replicant has RE-ed most of samsung-ril and it works for some devices, but that's it, basically | 02:19 |
| ryukafalz | hmm | 02:19 |
| ryukafalz | I'm not too familiar with that bit tbh | 02:20 |
| ryukafalz | is that vendor-specific? | 02:20 |
| bencoh | and you might be able to do something with qualcomm-based devices thanks to ofono/qmi, but at the moment there is nothing | 02:20 |
| bencoh | it is | 02:20 |
| bencoh | even jolla uses a proprietary ril (that they got from qualcomm iirc) | 02:21 |
| M4rtinK | isn't Google basically letting more and more of the AOSP apps to rot ? | 02:22 |
| bencoh | dunno | 02:22 |
| ryukafalz | M4rtinK: Basically, yes | 02:22 |
| M4rtinK | and replacing them by closed gapps versions | 02:22 |
| ryukafalz | bencoh: Where's the line drawn between what ofono handles and what the proprietary RIL handles? | 02:22 |
| M4rtinK | also completely behind-closed-doors development | 02:23 |
| jonwil | The whole "Google Play Services" thing should explain Google's view on openness | 02:23 |
| M4rtinK | count to that the overall Android architecture nightmare | 02:23 |
| M4rtinK | so I also like Sailfish OS more than Android :) | 02:23 |
| bencoh | ryukafalz: http://events.linuxfoundation.org/sites/events/files/slides/elc_telephony_piirainen_0.pdf | 02:24 |
| bencoh | https://github.com/rilmodem/ofono for source | 02:24 |
| ryukafalz | bencoh: Ooh, thank you | 02:24 |
| jonwil | That said, "Google Play Services" exists because Google didn't like the way carriers and OEMs were releasing hardware and then holding back software updates in order to push people to buy the latest hardware. | 02:24 |
| ryukafalz | Relevant re: Android - http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/10/googles-iron-grip-on-android-controlling-open-source-by-any-means-necessary/ | 02:25 |
| M4rtinK | ryukafalz: was about to link to that one :) | 02:25 |
| ryukafalz | ;) | 02:25 |
| M4rtinK | that's probably the best article on that | 02:25 |
| M4rtinK | so basically everyone is evil! :D | 02:25 |
| bencoh | exactly | 02:26 |
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| bencoh | well, dunno about "evil", but at least "closed" :) | 02:26 |
| ryukafalz | well, closed at different levels | 02:27 |
| bencoh | several levels :] | 02:27 |
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| ryukafalz | Sailfish: UI, apps; Android: Google APIs, Google apps; all: radio interface | 02:27 |
| ryukafalz | gross oversimplification but yeah | 02:28 |
| bencoh | and you forgot the shared cpu/modem bus/dma | 02:28 |
| ryukafalz | well that's more hardware related | 02:29 |
| bencoh | yeah, but that still makes your whole plateform "closed" ... and there is no way around | 02:29 |
| ryukafalz | but yes the fact that the baseband has access to $everything is very concerning | 02:29 |
| bencoh | even if they released all of the code running on main cpu | 02:29 |
| ryukafalz | neo900 \o/ | 02:29 |
| bencoh | yeah :) | 02:29 |
| ryukafalz | if only it had more up to date hardware though | 02:30 |
| ryukafalz | still, I can't blame them with their resources | 02:30 |
| ryukafalz | also powervr blah | 02:30 |
| jonwil | Neo900 is as close to "open" as its possible to get in the mobile space | 02:31 |
| bencoh | well ... compare their resources to recent jolla indiegogo campaign, and ... meh | 02:31 |
| bencoh | you cant force people into freeing themselves | 02:31 |
| jonwil | And thanks to https://github.com/jumoog/GFX_Linux_DDK/ its possible PowerVR wont be a blob issue for much longer | 02:31 |
| ryukafalz | jonwil: er, no | 02:33 |
| ryukafalz | this was posted above but http://libv.livejournal.com/26972.html | 02:33 |
| bencoh | see 7 hours ago ^^ | 02:34 |
| ryukafalz | leaked code is baaaad | 02:34 |
| ryukafalz | bencoh: I'll admit to having bought a Jolla Tablet but not a Neo900. The biggest difference being one I can reasonably afford, heh. | 02:36 |
| ryukafalz | tbh I would be perfectly happy with a mobile internet connection and a SIP server somewhere | 02:39 |
| ryukafalz | with my main device not even having a cell radio | 02:39 |
| * ryukafalz wishes sfos had a/v support - Telepathy already supports it | 02:41 | |
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| M4rtinK | well, the Jolla tablet has a shipping date | 02:49 |
| M4rtinK | Neo 900 not yet AFAIK | 02:50 |
| ryukafalz | also true | 02:50 |
| M4rtinK | BTW, I really wonder if they can make it | 02:50 |
| ryukafalz | Neo900 you mean? | 02:50 |
| M4rtinK | people who are less sensitive about privacy might opt for TOHKBDv2 instead | 02:51 |
| M4rtinK | yeah | 02:51 |
| M4rtinK | I would expect many would go for it for the keyboard alone :) | 02:51 |
| M4rtinK | even I still know about a couple of hardcore N900 users | 02:52 |
| M4rtinK | with the number two reasons for sticking with it being the "normal" Linux distro & hardware keyboard | 02:52 |
| ryukafalz | I would totally use an N900 now if the software were still maintained | 02:52 |
| M4rtinK | BTW, I still also use my N900 from time to time :) | 02:53 |
| ryukafalz | and if it had open drivers | 02:53 |
| M4rtinK | well, it is :) | 02:53 |
| M4rtinK | the CSSU guys are pretty active | 02:53 |
| ryukafalz | CSSU... | 02:53 |
| ryukafalz | oh dang what | 02:53 |
| M4rtinK | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU | 02:53 |
| M4rtinK | fixing stuff left and right | 02:54 |
| M4rtinK | even got thumb working | 02:54 |
| ryukafalz | so like, you have an up to date copy of openssl and such? | 02:54 |
| ryukafalz | /other security libs | 02:54 |
| M4rtinK | and currently working for example on Location and PulseAudio closed parts RE | 02:54 |
| M4rtinK | yep :) | 02:54 |
| M4rtinK | or IIRc the copy in Maemo is too old to be affected :) | 02:55 |
| ryukafalz | ehhhh I would prefer up to date copies :P | 02:55 |
| ryukafalz | I'm curious how much of maemo 5 is closed at this point | 02:55 |
| M4rtinK | but I think they fixed the bash vulnerability or some of the other recent ones | 02:55 |
| M4rtinK | there is a table somewhere | 02:56 |
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| ryukafalz | http://wiki.maemo.org/Fremantle_closed_packages | 02:56 |
| ryukafalz | it looks like a bunch of it is GPL-licensed but the source code is nowhere to be found? | 02:57 |
| ryukafalz | most of the red ones are like that, the situation is better than I expected | 02:58 |
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| M4rtinK | most recently modified October 2014 | 02:59 |
| M4rtinK | they are working on it :) | 02:59 |
| ryukafalz | wonder how far you'd get pestering nokia :P | 02:59 |
| ryukafalz | I might have to go out and buy an N900 now heh | 02:59 |
| M4rtinK | that train has left long ago :) | 03:00 |
| M4rtinK | they just wont release anything more | 03:00 |
| ryukafalz | =/ | 03:00 |
| ryukafalz | holy crap N900s are expensive still | 03:00 |
| M4rtinK | actually the Maemo community is on its own since ~2013 | 03:00 |
| M4rtinK | all the services are already community hosted | 03:01 |
| ryukafalz | I figured as much, but aren't they legally obligated to provide the source for GPL components? | 03:01 |
| ryukafalz | actually not if they're the sole copyright holder... | 03:01 |
| M4rtinK | even then | 03:01 |
| M4rtinK | as long as they shipped at lest one binary to someone | 03:01 |
| M4rtinK | the someone can still require the source | 03:02 |
| ryukafalz | I don't believe that's the case | 03:02 |
| M4rtinK | oh right | 03:02 |
| M4rtinK | I know what you mean | 03:02 |
| ryukafalz | software licenses don't apply to the copyright holder | 03:02 |
| M4rtinK | that could be it | 03:02 |
| M4rtinK | might be still arguable though, if they were advertising it as GPL or something | 03:03 |
| M4rtinK | but still | 03:03 |
| M4rtinK | no use in asking Nokia anymore | 03:03 |
| ryukafalz | yeah =/ | 03:03 |
| M4rtinK | most of the people who worked on Maemo are not there anymore | 03:03 |
| ryukafalz | aren't some at Jolla? :P | 03:03 |
| ryukafalz | they wouldn't likely have the code ofc but still haha | 03:04 |
| M4rtinK | many are | 03:04 |
| M4rtinK | BTW, Mer is actually older than the N900 | 03:04 |
| M4rtinK | and Stskeeps has been working on it even then :) | 03:04 |
| M4rtinK | and I've been helping with testing in on my old SmartQ 7 tablet :D | 03:05 |
| M4rtinK | then Maemo 5 & N900 came, priorities shifted and Mer went to the sideline | 03:05 |
| ryukafalz | oh dang, old umpc | 03:05 |
| ryukafalz | I remember that actually | 03:05 |
| M4rtinK | only to be resurrected again once MeeGo bombed | 03:06 |
| ryukafalz | Mer was an alternative OS type thing, in its current state it was something of a rebirth | 03:06 |
| M4rtinK | yeah, it was the best one could get at that time | 03:06 |
| M4rtinK | but it had horrible power management | 03:06 |
| M4rtinK | it was usable as a reader or even emergency web browser | 03:07 |
| M4rtinK | but you had to wait about a minute for it to turn on | 03:07 |
| ryukafalz | heh | 03:07 |
| ryukafalz | I never had an N900, but I still enjoy my N810 sometimes | 03:07 |
| M4rtinK | it could run for about 8 hour though | 03:07 |
| M4rtinK | but the suspend never worked correctly - it woke up after a few hour and either continued running or shut down | 03:08 |
| M4rtinK | I think I tracked it down to some protection against memory corruption at low power or something | 03:08 |
| M4rtinK | not much to do about that | 03:08 |
| M4rtinK | so it was quite usable once it run | 03:09 |
| bencoh | nemo was never really "optimized" for n900 | 03:09 |
| M4rtinK | but not really usable on moments notice, which kinda killed the usability :) | 03:09 |
| bencoh | some versions of it kinda worked | 03:09 |
| M4rtinK | (now I was talking about the Q7, not the N900 BTW) | 03:09 |
| bencoh | (oh) | 03:09 |
| M4rtinK | but Nemo on N900 indeed wasn't also the best usually | 03:10 |
| M4rtinK | on the other hand it still used to work better than current Nemo :) | 03:10 |
| M4rtinK | (unless something changed since I tried it on my N950 about 2-3 months ago) | 03:11 |
| ryukafalz | Well the Nemo UI is being heavily reworked (the new one being Glacier) | 03:11 |
| bencoh | current nemo doesnt run on n900 | 03:11 |
| ryukafalz | AFAIK you should still be able to run the old one | 03:11 |
| ryukafalz | bencoh: should work on N950 though :P | 03:12 |
| bencoh | no proper wayland support - someone hacked into it but never released anything | 03:12 |
| ryukafalz | I mean, can't you run Nemo with X still? | 03:12 |
| * ryukafalz hasn't been keeping up | 03:12 | |
| bencoh | nope | 03:12 |
| ryukafalz | ahh, okay | 03:12 |
| bencoh | they dropped support | 03:12 |
| ryukafalz | when did that happen? | 03:13 |
| bencoh | and available images/binaries for n900 are borked | 03:13 |
| M4rtinK | anyway, good night you all! :) | 03:13 |
| bencoh | 1.5years ago iirc | 03:13 |
| ryukafalz | 'night! | 03:13 |
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| ryukafalz | ah, I see, with the switch to qt5 | 03:13 |
| bencoh | exactly | 03:15 |
| bencoh | it wouldnt run anyway .... 50mo for mcompositor is faaar too much for poor n900 to handle | 03:16 |
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| faenil | o/ | 13:47 |
| locusf | yo | 13:48 |
| Stskeeps | moo faenil | 13:56 |
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| tbr | mooooo | 14:04 |
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| faenil | how's your sunday people : | 14:12 |
| faenil | :) | 14:12 |
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| locusf | all good | 14:17 |
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| filippz | hi guys - looking for next thing to fix - who has power over pulseaudio-settings-n950-n9? | 14:24 |
| Stskeeps | probably jusa and co | 14:24 |
| filippz | my PR is sitting there for a while :) | 14:25 |
| filippz | jusa_: are you the one who can comment/accept this: https://github.com/nemomobile/pulseaudio-settings-n950-n9? | 14:27 |
| filippz | locusf: does you latest nemo image have OOMScoreAdjust for user services that hedayat was mentioning? | 14:29 |
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| locusf | filippz: yes | 14:29 |
| filippz | locusf: great, I'll use that one then | 14:30 |
| filippz | locusf: did you publish ks for it somewhere? | 14:33 |
| locusf | filippz: yes | 14:33 |
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| locusf | nemo-armv7hl-n950-rnd-10282015.ks | 14:34 |
| locusf | https://img.merproject.org/images//web/locusf/19-20141028-164708/nemo-armv7hl-n950-rnd-10282015.ks | 14:34 |
| filippz | locusf: thanks | 14:34 |
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| locusf | np :) | 14:39 |
| filippz | locusf: I'm thinking of reverting kernel to landscape and including glesplash - but I'm sure sailfishos porters will hate that | 14:41 |
| filippz | they'll need fbset-n9.service back into ks | 14:41 |
| locusf | hmm ok | 14:41 |
| locusf | thats a fine idea, I can then generate a new release with newest glacier fixes | 14:42 |
| filippz | yup - I'll try to catch hedayat these days about that idea - IIRC he also did some OOMScoreAdjust fixes to all user services | 14:44 |
| filippz | also that simple sound fix would be nice, and I wonder how's ofono doing these days with N9 | 14:45 |
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| locusf | hedayat knows someething about that | 14:53 |
| locusf | the problems lie within the dbus permissions system | 14:53 |
| locusf | for ofono that ia | 14:54 |
| locusf | is | 14:54 |
| filippz | OK, maybe he has sometning we can put into ks for now - an image with working telephony would be a nice step forward :) | 14:56 |
| locusf | yeah :) | 14:56 |
| locusf | for ril implementations as well | 14:57 |
| Morpog_PC | are you guys pushing kernel changes back to nemo? latest stuff there is from january | 15:24 |
| * Morpog_PC is just wondering | 15:24 | |
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| filippz | Morpog_PC: nope - fixes in my repo contain nasty hacks needed for old binary blobs we use (bme, libomap3camd...) - I'm not sure what should be done with those | 15:31 |
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| Morpog_PC | filippz, well, It's not like this will be upstreamed at all or? | 15:32 |
| filippz | Morpog_PC: that will newer go to linux kernel - even Nokia couldn't make that happen. At some point (time permitting) we could push changes to nemomobile | 15:34 |
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| Morpog_PC | thats waht i meant | 15:34 |
| locusf | I wonder who is in charge of overseeing pull requests to n9 kernel | 15:36 |
| filippz | locusf: kjokinie - but more than year back I was struggling with git and kernel - and decided to fix it in my repo first and push it later because it was taking too long otherwise | 15:39 |
| locusf | filippz: ok | 15:41 |
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| filippz | I think back then the whole idea was to go upsteram, but now IMHO that ship has sailed. If we look at that in this way, then all commits I made could go into main repo without too much problems | 15:44 |
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| locusf | filippz: well what prevents you from making the pr then :) ? Go for it | 15:45 |
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| filippz | locusf: time :) | 15:47 |
| locusf | filippz: understandable :) | 15:48 |
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| filippz | locusf: btw I just noticed erratic behavior of glacier when swiping away from open app (swiping away from lockscreen works OK) - maybe my latest PR's broke something | 15:50 |
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| locusf | filippz: erratic, how come? | 15:55 |
| filippz | locusf: when I'm swiping down it's jumping up/down by maybe some 50-100 rows - seems that fixes to ScreenGestureArea.qml are not 100 reliable (mapToItem) | 15:56 |
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| filippz | I'm looking at that right now | 15:57 |
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| locusf | ok thanks | 15:59 |
| filippz | locusf: seems that mapToItem varies it's "correction" - maybe it's thinking that w/h are swapped and trying to convert 854 -> 480 and vice versa | 16:01 |
| filippz | maybe I need to swap x/y in some orientations... I'll try that... | 16:02 |
| locusf | filippz: ok | 16:02 |
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| filippz | tried, and.. that would be too easy :( | 16:03 |
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| filippz | hm, if x,y are offset on parent, then mapToItem should offset it by the same x,y always... well I have to go for now ... | 16:04 |
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| locusf | ok | 16:07 |
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