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| stephg | IT'S FRIDAY, PEOPLE! | 08:25 |
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| Stskeeps | it's first friday for me when i can sit in the train with a beer | 08:25 |
| stephg | I hope you're not sat on a train, with a beer, right now :P | 08:26 |
| Stskeeps | not yet.. maybe after my talk today | 08:28 |
| stephg | oh yes | 08:29 |
| stephg | the best kind of beer is the one you deserve &c. &c. | 08:29 |
| stephg | g'luck! | 08:29 |
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| locusf | filippz: saw your pr, thanks :) | 09:17 |
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| filippz | locusf: saw your comments - I'll get right to it now | 10:38 |
| locusf | filippz: thanks :) | 10:39 |
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| filippz | locusf: I just saw (https://github.com/nemomobile-ux/glacier-home/blob/master/src/main.cpp#L60) that you pushed the v variable to qml instead of nativeOrientation - is that a mistake? | 11:10 |
| locusf | filippz: woops | 11:10 |
| filippz | locusf: np, I'll commit fix that also :) | 11:11 |
| locusf | filippz: ok thanks :) | 11:11 |
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| filippz | locusf: PR is updated - take a look at it when you have some time | 11:18 |
| locusf | filippz: thx | 11:18 |
| locusf | filippz: it works, merging | 11:22 |
| filippz | locusf: great - thank you! | 11:23 |
| locusf | filippz: np :) | 11:23 |
| locusf | I was planning on releasing 0.16 to openrepos but seems that 0.17 is a better bet :) | 11:24 |
| locusf | filippz: this will be integrated to next release | 11:24 |
| locusf | we really need a device lock implementation too, just pointing out :) | 11:26 |
| locusf | Jolla is using encpartition implementation but thats propietary | 11:26 |
| locusf | and only available to Jolla device | 11:27 |
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| locusf | filippz: you are actually the second contributor to glacier-home :) I've been doing it all by myself thus far :) | 11:31 |
| locusf | ah no sledges also has committed, forgot about that :) | 11:31 |
| sledges | ;p | 11:32 |
| filippz | locusf: what's next on agenda, I was thinking of taking a look at locking orientation on lockscreen/shutdown screen tomorrow - is that OK? | 11:33 |
| locusf | filippz: sure, thats ok :) | 11:33 |
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| locusf | Morpog_PC: what would you like to see on a tablet edition Glacier :) ? | 15:56 |
| Morpog_PC | multi window support? | 15:56 |
| SK_work | Morpog_PC: +1 | 15:56 |
| Morpog_PC | And I'm sure qwazix would have lots of great ideas for it :D | 15:57 |
| locusf | lol wow why not :) | 15:57 |
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| coderus | nemomobile have something similar with libupnp? | 16:07 |
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| hedayat | coderus: Apparently, it just needs compilation/installation: https://repo.merproject.org/package/show/home:roboro:mer/libupnp | 16:29 |
| hedayat | He has built it for both nemo/sailfish | 16:29 |
| sledges | hedayat: you could ask special about booster prob (point him to porters channel) | 16:32 |
| hedayat | sledges: whome? Stskeeps? He's on both channels already. | 16:33 |
| Morpog_PC | special | 16:33 |
| Morpog_PC | its hius nick | 16:33 |
| Morpog_PC | and a special one :) | 16:33 |
| special | sorry, I don't have time to answer now | 16:33 |
| hedayat | sledges: I found him and w00t_ as contributors to ti-omap3-sgx-wayland-wsegl, but none of them answer currently. | 16:33 |
| special | I'm leaving for an airport shortly | 16:33 |
| sledges | hedayat: looks like beginning of weekend turned against you now sorry ;) | 16:34 |
| hedayat | Morpog_PC: sledges aha! :) | 16:34 |
| special | if you leave questions here with more highlights or email them to me (john.brooks@jolla.com) you can probably get a response | 16:34 |
| hedayat | sledges: yes :) thanks anyway | 16:34 |
| hedayat | special: Thanks, OK | 16:34 |
| * sledges wonders what faenil is up to (he also sniffed around boosters) | 16:34 | |
| hedayat | sledges: He is writing his thesis these days :P | 16:34 |
| sledges | special: thanks, you are special :)) | 16:35 |
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| hedayat | What's all about 'messageserver'? It seems to terminate if no online accounts are set up. But, its .service file says that it must be restarted if terminated. | 17:22 |
| hedayat | So, if there are no online accounts, it'll be restarted many times by systemd. | 17:22 |
| Stskeeps | qmf | 17:23 |
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| hedayat | what's the expected behavior when no accounts are being setup? Currently, it just slows down everything and produces error messages in the logs. | 17:26 |
| hedayat | It should probably not terminate if there are no accounts, and wait on-hold; or there should be another service to enable this one only when there are accounts. | 17:27 |
| Stskeeps | vdvsx might know more | 17:28 |
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| hedayat | hmmm not here now | 17:34 |
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| VDVsx | hedayat, that's fixed when we switched to newer systemd allowing more tricks | 17:52 |
| VDVsx | update9 has it IIRC | 17:52 |
| VDVsx | so not accts it bails and does not start on boot | 17:52 |
| VDVsx | before it was failing 5 times | 17:52 |
| VDVsx | systemd limit | 17:53 |
| hedayat | VDVsx: yes. so we need it in Nemo too. | 17:53 |
| VDVsx | just grab it then :) | 17:54 |
| VDVsx | fix was here: https://github.com/nemomobile-packages/messagingframework/commit/e17cdcef9a0383f7ab0c6aea29a0ab3a0e573ca3 | 17:54 |
| hedayat | VDVsx: thanks. I think it should work with systemd 208 then, right? | 17:56 |
| VDVsx | hummm | 17:56 |
| VDVsx | yes, 208+ | 17:57 |
| hedayat | Thanks. problem fixed :P | 17:58 |
| VDVsx | welcome :) | 17:58 |
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| silver_hook | Is there a list of core apps that are missing like e.g. Mail etc? | 20:57 |
| Oksana | silver_hook: Camera missing (ask about waylandsink) and maps missing | 21:02 |
| Oksana | afaik | 21:03 |
| silver_hook | Oksana: That’s it? | 21:03 |
| hedayat | silver_hook: VoiceCall, SMS I think! | 21:03 |
| hedayat | at least I have not seen them in recent N9 images | 21:04 |
| hedayat | There is voicecall-ui, but all I can see is a white screen | 21:04 |
| silver_hook | Is there any list of these anywhere (on the wiki)? | 21:04 |
| hedayat | silver_hook: I'm not aware of. But I think it's better to ask what core apps exist! It seems that a few ones are in working state after wayland transition. | 21:06 |
| silver_hook | hedayat: Makes sense …but is there a list of those at least? | 21:06 |
| hedayat | hedayat: I don't know. locusf should be able to help, but he's probably gone for sleep now. :P | 21:07 |
| hedayat | I should leave now too, good night! | 21:10 |
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| faenil | guys | 22:07 |
| faenil | hello :) | 22:08 |
| faenil | read the logs, just popped in to say that we actually need to finish Glacier components | 22:08 |
| faenil | before writing the apps | 22:08 |
| faenil | all apps have to be rewritten using Glacier components, once they're all finished | 22:08 |
| faenil | silver_hook: ^ | 22:08 |
| faenil | hedayat ^ | 22:08 |
| faenil | filippz ^ | 22:08 |
| silver_hook | faenil: Cool. Will keep in mind :) | 22:09 |
| faenil | :) any contribution is welcome | 22:09 |
| faenil | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Glacier more info here | 22:09 |
| silver_hook | And I guess a (dual-boot) Mer/Nemo port for Jolla is on the way? | 22:09 |
| faenil | and these are the specs | 22:10 |
| faenil | https://github.com/qwazix/glacier-controls-spec | 22:10 |
| faenil | if you're missing a spec to implement a UI control, ping Morpog and qwazix and ask their help ;) | 22:10 |
| faenil | silver_hook: about dual boot on Jolla, I don't know | 22:11 |
| faenil | what you can do at the moment is install Glacier homescreen on SailfishOS, the package is on OpenRepos and maintained by locusf | 22:11 |
| faenil | dual boot ---> sure, we should do it, we're just missing people/time :) | 22:11 |
| faenil | if you need help just ask away, I'm sure someone will answer withn 10mins-24h | 22:12 |
| silver_hook | faenil: That’s a good start :) | 22:12 |
| Aard | it actually would be nicer to not do dual boot, but be able to do ui-switching on the jolla | 22:12 |
| silver_hook | I can’t help with actual coding, but once I get a Jolla, I’ll do a hell of a job to promote Nemo and Mer on it. | 22:13 |
| faenil | Aard: UI switching means using all jolla middleware, and core apps | 22:13 |
| faenil | it's not exactly what people usually want :) (afaik) | 22:13 |
| Aard | jolla middleware is (with very few exceptions) nemo middleware | 22:13 |
| faenil | most of the times people who want to use nemo do it because they want the fully OSS | 22:13 |
| Aard | and not necessarily using the jolla core apps | 22:13 |
| faenil | not that very few nowadays, come on ;) | 22:13 |
| Aard | on middleware side, almost nothing | 22:13 |
| faenil | ok, but then the user should have both jolla and nemo core apps installed all the time | 22:13 |
| Aard | not counting the alien stack, I think it's mostly that we rebuild libav and similar stuff with more codecs we can't put to mer/nemo for license/patent issues, the exchange-stack, and the xt9 stack | 22:14 |
| faenil | I should have another look at Stskeeps' graph ;) | 22:15 |
| faenil | anyway, not saying it's not a viable solution...just not what nemo contributors usually look for, at least as far as I could see | 22:16 |
| faenil | Aard: how are you btw :) long time no talk | 22:18 |
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| Aard | busy | 22:18 |
| faenil | so no news :P | 22:19 |
| Aard | was just checking our build system, there are a few small other parts, but the list contains the majority of non-oss middleware | 22:20 |
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| faenil | was sociald opensources? | 22:21 |
| faenil | opensourced* | 22:21 |
| Aard | yes | 22:22 |
| faenil | I seemed to remember something about it | 22:22 |
| faenil | but could not find it now | 22:22 |
| faenil | ah it's https://github.com/nemomobile/buteo-sync-plugins-social | 22:22 |
| Aard | that was a mistake to have that closed anyway, and never really intended to go like that. we just lacked time for a long time to make sure we didn't do non-opensourcable bits in there by accident | 22:23 |
| faenil | I don't see UI-switching as something easy, btw ... you mean also changing graphics of silica apps? | 22:24 |
| faenil | to glacier theme? | 22:24 |
| faenil | otherwise, the UI-switching is just a matter of installing glacier homescreen and core apps | 22:24 |
| Aard | the only tricky bit is having a way to make the ux you want to boot in selectable during startup | 22:25 |
| faenil | yes, but if it's only about having a different homescreen and core apps...I don't know :/ | 22:26 |
| faenil | I mean, there's not much left...but it's not even that small part | 22:27 |
| Aard | well, the rest of the stack is pretty similar | 22:27 |
| Aard | even all apps are buliding on nemo qml components | 22:27 |
| faenil | it's always safer not to rely on closed source settings/packages, the way I see it | 22:27 |
| faenil | then the UI switching could be "another" way of trynig nemo, that's ok | 22:27 |
| faenil | Aard: the UI switching could be the ideal solution for those who want to keep the closed source features, in any case | 22:30 |
| Aard | the main bit you get from that 'ui switching' is that you can have data sharing between nemo and jolla apps, which should help with attracting people/users, as it does not hurt that much when you don't have implemented features when you can just go back to a full ui without losing data for something | 22:30 |
| faenil | yep, true that | 22:30 |
| faenil | mmm :) | 22:31 |
| faenil | anyway, time for me to dive back into rush-writing :D cya Aard! take some rest ;) | 22:32 |
| Aard | rush-writing? | 22:32 |
| faenil | thesis... | 22:32 |
| faenil | true story | 22:32 |
| Aard | ah | 22:32 |
| Aard | just blow it, I guess you have more than 1 try? :p | 22:32 |
| faenil | haha no way, I want to be out of uni, and start working on cool stuff :D | 22:33 |
| Aard | have fun | 22:34 |
| faenil | o/ | 22:34 |
| faenil | in less than a month I'll be freeeeeeeeeeee | 22:34 |
| Aard | hm. :) | 22:34 |
| faenil | :) | 22:35 |
| * Aard starts thinking | 22:35 | |
| silver_hook | faenil: ,o/ | 22:35 |
| * Morpog_PC makes the nemomobile chains ready for faenil | 22:35 | |
| faenil | hahah | 22:35 |
| faenil | it will be a pleasure for me to get back to nemo hacking | 22:35 |
| Morpog_PC | :) | 22:36 |
| faenil | I'll cheer you guys up :D | 22:36 |
| Aard | faenil: so you decided not to search for a job anytime soon? :p | 22:36 |
| faenil | and we'll start a new volunteers recruiting campaign!! o/ | 22:36 |
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| faenil | Aard: of course, I'll be sending CVs starting in a day or two (as soon as I have to rewrite my cv) | 22:37 |
| faenil | have time to* | 22:37 |
| Aard | good luck with the 'time for nemo hacking' then :u | 22:37 |
| faenil | Aard: well, it depends how long it will take to find a proper job :) | 22:38 |
| faenil | I haven't studied years to end up working in a pizza shop :D (no offence to pizza makers! I <3 pizza) | 22:38 |
| Aard | true, I think your qualifications would be more appreciated at mc donalds | 22:39 |
| faenil | hahah | 22:39 |
| faenil | mc donalds is already full of philosophists :p | 22:40 |
| faenil | anyway, got to focus, cya people :) o/ | 22:40 |
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